Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Clone OPatra]

On the subject of X-Men things, I'm very confused as to how Days of Future Past is going to work. The 'present-day' appears to be set in the same continuity as the X-Men trilogy of films and The Wolverine. The past picks up from First Class. In the comics, the 'future' is just some alternate thing, and they keep it from really happening in the past.

But, if Wolverine goes back and stops things from happening, that will create an alternate timeline from the three X-Films and The Wolverine. Is that the intention? I just feel like that'd be super-weird, to semi-erase four movies. Maybe somehow they won't be erased, but I just can't fathom how. It makes me even more excited to see the movie when it comes out.

[Leo604]

On the subject of X-Men things, I'm very confused as to how Days of Future Past is going to work. The 'present-day' appears to be set in the same continuity as the X-Men trilogy of films and The Wolverine. The past picks up from First Class. In the comics, the 'future' is just some alternate thing, and they keep it from really happening in the past.

But, if Wolverine goes back and stops things from happening, that will create an alternate timeline from the three X-Films and The Wolverine. Is that the intention? I just feel like that'd be super-weird, to semi-erase four movies. Maybe somehow they won't be erased, but I just can't fathom how. It makes me even more excited to see the movie when it comes out.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/02/22/x-men-days-of-future-past-director-bryan-singer-says-he-will-be-repairing-things-that-went-wrong-in-the-brett-ratner-directed-x-men-last-stand

It seems like Singer wasn't too happy with what Brett Ratner did with The Last Stand so I'm guessing he is using DoFP to intentionally fix things in said alternate timeline. I do agree though that it would feel strange if this were to happen, since it would basically render half or all the original trilogy + The Wolverine redundant.

Hopefully it'll just work out to a self-fulfilling prophecy/time loop, which are always cool.

[Sam892]

On the subject of X-Men things, I'm very confused as to how Days of Future Past is going to work. The 'present-day' appears to be set in the same continuity as the X-Men trilogy of films and The Wolverine. The past picks up from First Class. In the comics, the 'future' is just some alternate thing, and they keep it from really happening in the past.

But, if Wolverine goes back and stops things from happening, that will create an alternate timeline from the three X-Films and The Wolverine. Is that the intention? I just feel like that'd be super-weird, to semi-erase four movies. Maybe somehow they won't be erased, but I just can't fathom how. It makes me even more excited to see the movie when it comes out.

My guess is Bishop comes from the future to warn the Present X-men who send Wolvie to go visit the First class team. I'm think Singer will use this film to fix a lot of continuity errors and maybe wipe both Last Stand and Origins from cannon.

[Leo604]

My guess is Bishop comes from the future to warn the Present X-men who send Wolvie to go visit the First class team. I'm think Singer will use this film to fix a lot of continuity errors and maybe wipe both Last Stand and Origins from cannon.

Would he be able to do that with the latter though, since it occurs before X-1 and 2? There would have to be some serious maneuvering in that case.

[Clone OPatra]

http://ca.ign.com/ar...-men-last-stand

It seems like Singer wasn't too happy with what Brett Ratner did with The Last Stand so I'm guessing he is using DoFP to intentionally fix things in said alternate timeline. I do agree though that it would feel strange if this were to happen, since it would basically render half or all the original trilogy + The Wolverine redundant.

That article says nothing. It's all the interviewer hinting at things and making assumptions, but Singer doesn't say anything. 'Fixing things' could be to have Professor X not be dead, or maybe to have Colossus be an actual character (instead of be a main X-Man but only have 3 lines). I really didn't get the sense that it would create an alternate timeline, even if the interviewer wanted to suggest that.

Since Trask doesn't actually factor into the X-Men trilogy or The Wolverine (I know he's in Last Stand for a second played by a different actor), it is possible to have a whole story that changes Trasks's timeline but leaves everybody else's mostly alone. Or when Wolverine comes back to his present body, some things have changed, but that doesn't exactly erase all of the previous things that happen. That'd be stickier, though.

As to what can or can't be erased - Origins can't really (maybe parts, but who really cares). But Last Stand can't be erased alone. There's no way to erase just Last Stand without also undoing all four - X1 through The Wolverine.

[Sam892]

That article says nothing. It's all the interviewer hinting at things and making assumptions, but Singer doesn't say anything. 'Fixing things' could be to have Professor X not be dead, or maybe to have Colossus be an actual character (instead of be a main X-Man but only have 3 lines). I really didn't get the sense that it would create an alternate timeline, even if the interviewer wanted to suggest that.

Since Trask doesn't actually factor into the X-Men trilogy or The Wolverine (I know he's in Last Stand for a second played by a different actor), it is possible to have a whole story that changes Trasks's timeline but leaves everybody else's mostly alone. Or when Wolverine comes back to his present body, some things have changed, but that doesn't exactly erase all of the previous things that happen. That'd be stickier, though.

As to what can or can't be erased - Origins can't really (maybe parts, but who really cares). But Last Stand can't be erased alone. There's no way to erase just Last Stand without also undoing all four - X1 through The Wolverine.

I don't see how it would undo number 1 or 2, but I wouldn't put it past Singer. He did this with Superman erased Superman 3 and 4, using returns as a sequel to 2.

[Clone OPatra]

I don't see how it would undo number 1 or 2, but I wouldn't put it past Singer. He did this with Superman erased Superman 3 and 4, using returns as a sequel to 2.

If you change everything post 1973 - how does that not undo 1 and 2? Last Stand takes place maybe a year tops after 2; how can you erase just that?

[Omicron]

On the subject of X-Men things, I'm very confused as to how Days of Future Past is going to work. The 'present-day' appears to be set in the same continuity as the X-Men trilogy of films and The Wolverine. The past picks up from First Class. In the comics, the 'future' is just some alternate thing, and they keep it from really happening in the past.

But, if Wolverine goes back and stops things from happening, that will create an alternate timeline from the three X-Films and The Wolverine. Is that the intention? I just feel like that'd be super-weird, to semi-erase four movies. Maybe somehow they won't be erased, but I just can't fathom how. It makes me even more excited to see the movie when it comes out.

The way the comics and 90s cartoon handled it is that if anything was altered in the past, it immediately resets the future/present timeline without creating an alternate timeline.

Been awhile since I read the issues, but I remember how the cartoon did it very well. Bishop was sent back (in the comics it was Kitty Pryde who does) to prevent Senator Kelly's assassination which led to mutants being hunted by Sentinels. After he fixes that, only he remembers the change in the future as everything was reset to the future being bleak on the whole Mutant virus launched by Apocalypse to which Bishop (Age of X story roughly), as well as Cable from a later time, go back to prevent again. Future reset with Cable and Bishop only remembering. Then there was the Prof X assassination which happened back in the 50s which reset the present X-Men timeline leading to the Age of Apocalypse. Time itself just changed the scenario on Wolverine and Storm without them knowing to mutants being hunted down by Sentinels and Apocalypse once again. So they and Bishop go back to the 50s to stop Xavier being killed twice (they failed the first time), and everything goes back to normal. Xavier only remembers these events.

With this movie, I'm guessing something happened small that brings the attention to Xavier to which he has Kitty send back Wolverine (that's how it's being done as far as I know) and chances are Wolverine or someone else did something else they shouldn't have done and reset the future again.

This whole concept was used in the Terminator series, and you'll keep hearing the words "resetting the future". Not exactly creating an alternate timeline, just messing with the straight timestream constantly to where events are completely changed. But that is a story for another time.

-Omi

Edited July 31, 2013 by Omicron

[Spider-Man]

Found this cool video that was posted yesterday!

[Masked Builder]

Didn't see any Mary Jane. Anyone else get her? Plenty of Gwen...

[Tanma]

Didn't see any Mary Jane. Anyone else get her? Plenty of Gwen...

I heard they ran out of time in ASM2 MJ so her scenes were cut from the film. However I have no sources for this, so take this with a grain of salt. But it kind of makes sense with all the other characters being introduced, I've heard Rhino, Black Cat, Norman Osborn, and Harry Osborn all in relation to the film, so I can see why something had to give. This development does make me more confident for Gwen's survival, as I think they would want to introduce MJ first. So she has till at least the third film.

[Omicron]

Didn't see any Mary Jane. Anyone else get her? Plenty of Gwen...

I heard they ran out of time in ASM2 MJ so her scenes were cut from the film.

They decided that it wasn't right to bring in MJ because they wanted to focus more on the Peter/Gwen relationship more, and bringing in MJ would cause another "love interest" so to speak. Sucks though, because it was said she did a good job on her scenes.

-Omi

[Masked Builder]

I heard they ran out of time in ASM2 MJ so her scenes were cut from the film. However I have no sources for this, so take this with a grain of salt. But it kind of makes sense with all the other characters being introduced, I've heard Rhino, Black Cat, Norman Osborn, and Harry Osborn all in relation to the film, so I can see why something had to give. This development does make me more confident for Gwen's survival, as I think they would want to introduce MJ first. So she has till at least the third film.

They decided that it wasn't right to bring in MJ because they wanted to focus more on the Peter/Gwen relationship more, and bringing in MJ would cause another "love interest" so to speak. Sucks though, because it was said she did a good job on her scenes.

-Omi

Darn. I was really looking forward to her. Oh well, at least we get a bunch of other Spidey characters!

[Spider-Man]

New Thor 2 poster! And I know for a fact that this one is official and not fan made

[Oky]

Found this cool video that was posted yesterday!

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Nice! I'm really liking this Cyberdyne-like marketing approach they are taking with this.

[Tanma]

I've got to watch Thor sometime, it is the only one I haven't seen. But magic doesn't interest me as much, so I haven't had the drive. I'll watch it before Thor 2 though, so I have till late fall. What was it like by the way? I hear it was bad, but my sister liked it.

[just2good]

I've got to watch Thor sometime, it is the only one I haven't seen. But magic doesn't interest me as much, so I haven't had the drive. I'll watch it before Thor 2 though, so I have till late fall. What was it like by the way? I hear it was bad, but my sister liked it.

I did the same thing, and it was the only one I didn't see in theaters. I watched it late 2011, and though it's my least favorite MCU film, it's still worth a watch. The sequel looks better though.

[Oky]

I've got to watch Thor sometime, it is the only one I haven't seen. But magic doesn't interest me as much, so I haven't had the drive. I'll watch it before Thor 2 though, so I have till late fall. What was it like by the way? I hear it was bad, but my sister liked it.

Yeah, you should watch it. It's my least favorite of the MCU as well, but it's not bad, it just could have been better. I didn't like that Thor didn't have his powers for most of the movie, but at least it made for some comedic scenes. There was a lack of action for my taste, but the sequel seems to rectify that. And don't worry about the magic part, they explain it away as science for the most part.

[Faefrost]

I've got to watch Thor sometime, it is the only one I haven't seen. But magic doesn't interest me as much, so I haven't had the drive. I'll watch it before Thor 2 though, so I have till late fall. What was it like by the way? I hear it was bad, but my sister liked it.

It's not a lot of "magic" really. It's more half sword swinging adventure half shield ET story. Not the strongest of the overall Marvel movies. But still good fun. Better than Incredible Hulk and IM2 not as good as the others. Still way better than most of this summers tent pole movies.

[Jared]

I think the Guardians of the Galaxy movie deserves it's own thread.

http://s3.amazonaws.....jpg?1342320572

So SDCC gave us the first images of GOTG, some really cool minifigures could be made out of this, huh?

Choosing to do Guardians of the Galaxy was both a pretty surprising and great move. It was a comic title published by Marvel in the early 70s (69 in fact). I own a few issues actually, but they were never really my favourites. Marvel rebooted them this year with the launch of MarvelNOW, and the new comic series looks pretty effin good. Luckily the movie will be based on this new series and not the older one (thank goodness). As far as LEGO sets go, I'd probably buy like five each. Let's hope they make a LEGO Rocket Raccoon figure!

[Tanma]

Good to know, I have heard the MCU described as a more scientific take.

The upcoming film I am most excited for honestly is Antman. I like Earth's Mightiest Heroes' take on Pym, and I hope they go a similar route. My real hope though is the Wasp is a major character, since she is one of my favorite superheroes. (tied for first) After Antman, I do like Ultron so Avengers 2 is high on my list, though I have mixed feelings about not involving Hank.

[Oky]

Full body Sentinel:

Looks pretty awesome, except for that giant vent in its torso.

[Sam892]

Full body Sentinel:

Looks pretty awesome, except for that giant vent in its torso.

I think I could do with one of those sentinels to cool my house down in the summer haha.

[Mr Man]

Looks pretty awesome, except for that giant vent in its torso.

Something to do with stabilising flight maybe.

I think I could do with one of those sentinels to cool my house down in the summer haha.

Really not needing it today .

[TenorPenny]

Not a fan of that sentinel at all. It lacks any of the old-school feel of the originals, and looks kinda i-Robot-y..? Although with the amount of fictional robots around I guess there was always a risk.