Spider-Man Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Yeah I'm pretty sure there were rumblings, but I don't think it was ever 'officially' announced. They better not give him actual lines though! In the movie Groot should only say, "I am Groot" a couple of times and then just, "Groot". Edited December 22, 2013 by Spider-Man Quote
Mr Man Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Yeah I'm pretty sure there were rumblings, but I don't think it was ever 'officially' announced. They better not give him actual lines though! In the movie Groot should only say, "I am Groot" a couple of times and then just, "Groot". Groot is a Pokemon then . Quote
Faefrost Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) One interesting rumor kicking around AICN and other sites. It looks like Marvel / Disney is seeking to cast another villain for Avengers 2. It looks like they may have solved the MCU Magneto problem relative to the Avengers. They are looking to cast someone to play Baron Wolfgang von Strucker. The classic leader of Hydra, and comic book archnemesis of Nick Fury. Now Strucker seems a little counter intuitive for an Avengers movie. You would expect him more in a Captain America movie, or a Nick Fury or maybe Black Widow specific one. He's not traditionally a major full team Avengers foe. But here's what makes him perfect for Avengers. In the Marvel comic universe he has a pair of twin mutant children. A boy and a girl. In the comics they are the entirely creepy for all thw wrong reasons D list villains known as "Fenris". Who spend most of their comic existance being more or less dead. Only the boy has ever been used to good effect over in Thunderbolts. So in a word, easily replaceable characters. Yep. Baron Strucker just became the father of Wanda and Pietro. Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. Edited December 24, 2013 by Faefrost Quote
The Legonater Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 Interesting. If this pans out, I could see a lot of hatred for it, but it does make sense. Directors are saying Cap 2 is basically an Avengers prequel, so... My only question is what on earth he has to do with Ultron? Quote
Ultron Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 One interesting rumor kicking around AICN and other sites. It looks like Marvel / Disney is seeking to cast another villain for Avengers 2. It looks like they may have solved the MCU Magneto problem relative to the Avengers. They are looking to cast someone to play Baron Wolfgang von Strucker. The classic leader of Hydra, and comic book archnemesis of Nick Fury. Now Strucker seems a little counter intuitive for an Avengers movie. You would expect him more in a Captain America movie, or a Nick Fury or maybe Black Widow specific one. He's not traditionally a major full team Avengers foe. But here's what makes him perfect for Avengers. In the Marvel comic universe he has a pair of twin mutant children. A boy and a girl. In the comics they are the entirely creepy for all thw wrong reasons D list villains known as "Fenris". Who spend most of their comic existance being more or less dead. Only the boy has ever been used to good effect over in Thunderbolts. So in a word, easily replaceable characters. Yep. Baron Strucker just became the father of Wanda and Pietro. Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. That sounds like a total nightmare. Just introduce them and say they were born with their powers. And let Ultron take the lead, it's the "age of ultron" not Baron Strucker. Plus it's already bad enough ultron won't be made by antman, so I hope they don't give scarlet witch and quicksilver a fake father as well. I don't understand why that really even needs to be discussed if they don't have the rights to use magnetos name. Just cut their ties to him. Quote
Savage Oppress Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 I would like it better if Baron Strucker was introduced during Agents of Shield not during Avengers 2. Quote
Masked Builder Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 AoS is back. I quite liked this episode. Loved the robot. Quote
The Legonater Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Missed the post credits scene. What happened? Quote
Ultron Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Missed the post credits scene. What happened? Mike Peterson woke up in an undisclosed place on a stretcher with serious burns all over his body. He also had large centipede serum things strapped to his arms and one leg amputated at the knee. He then sat up and was calling around when he received a message across his vision "Stand by for further instructions" meaning he has the ocular implants as well. Quote
Im a brickmaster. Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Yeah, my first reaction to what happened to agent coulson was: DUH FUH!? Im interested to see why shield brought him back. There has to be some reason... Quote
The Legonater Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Yeah, my first reaction to what happened to agent coulson was: DUH FUH!? Im interested to see why shield brought him back. There has to be some reason... After watching this episode, I'm really hoping he turns out to be the MCU Vision. Quote
Ultron Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) After watching this episode, I'm really hoping he turns out to be the MCU Vision. NO. Sorry, but Ultron HAS to make the Vision if he is going to be in it, in my honest opinion. Vision was created to destroy the avengers. I mean, Marvel isn't afraid to change creators since antman isn't creating Ultron but the Vision turns on Ultron and becomes part of the avengers because he realizes he doesn't have to take orders from Ultron and can think for himself. The vision is like the biggest mistake Ultron made in a way. Also, because Ultron makes him it sets up a whole level of internal conflict with who he is and why he was created. Now, I'm sure that could be paralleled with Coulson wondering who he is and why SHIELD brought him back but I just don't want that. And the vision struggles with his emotions and whether or not he can feel anything! It seems to me that clearly Coulson can still feel emotions since his revival. He was crying in the last episode and screaming in pain. The vision wouldn't experience that. If Coulson turns out to be "The Vision" he's not going to be the Vision, he's going to be Coulson who looks like the vision. Plus I really want Zachary Quinto to voice the Vision. And Coulson just doesn't sound like a Robot. Edited January 8, 2014 by Luna Lovegood Quote
Faefrost Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 NO. Sorry, but Ultron HAS to make the Vision if he is going to be in it, in my honest opinion. Vision was created to destroy the avengers. I mean, Marvel isn't afraid to change creators since antman isn't creating Ultron but the Vision turns on Ultron and becomes part of the avengers because he realizes he doesn't have to take orders from Ultron and can think for himself. The vision is like the biggest mistake Ultron made in a way. Also, because Ultron makes him it sets up a whole level of internal conflict with who he is and why he was created. Now, I'm sure that could be paralleled with Coulson wondering who he is and why SHIELD brought him back but I just don't want that. And the vision struggles with his emotions and whether or not he can feel anything! It seems to me that clearly Coulson can still feel emotions since his revival. He was crying in the last episode and screaming in pain. The vision wouldn't experience that. If Coulson turns out to be "The Vision" he's not going to be the Vision, he's going to be Coulson who looks like the vision. Plus I really want Zachary Quinto to voice the Vision. And Coulson just doesn't sound like a Robot. Technically we have theoretically already seen the Vision, or his "earlier form" in Captain America. Phineas Horton's Artificial Man in the giant test tube. (yeah yeah I know they retconned out Vision being built from the torch. But its still the better known origin of him.) As for Peterson. Between all the Centipede stuff. Burns, Cyborg stuff etc. I'm starting to think MCU version of Deathlok maybe? I can't see them using A list comic characters for AoS. Where we get them they will probably be delightfully obscure. Deathlok seems to sorta fit the bill. Quote
The Legonater Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 A few things. One, they could easily have Ultron hack Coulson in the Avengers if that's the route they want to take with it. Streiten clearly said that a lot of they work they did was before Coulson wasn't the same man anymore. That could easily lead to some version of the Vision we all know. Quote
Ultron Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 A few things. One, they could easily have Ultron hack Coulson in the Avengers if that's the route they want to take with it. Streiten clearly said that a lot of they work they did was before Coulson wasn't the same man anymore. That could easily lead to some version of the Vision we all know. Idk, I don't think Coulson is a full on robot. The vision is though. Coulson is still human so that's what sets them apart. The vision is made of synthetic material. Coulson isn't. Plus he can't fly, shoot lasers, or phase through things so I'm not exactly sure how they would "unlock" those things if he does turn out to be the vision. If he turns into the vision it's definitely going to pull me out of the world because coulson flying around and shooting beams from a diamond on his head would be weird. I guess I would be okay if Ultron kidnapped him or something and then turned him into the vision but I'd still prefer coulson and vision to be separate. Plus Coulson won't be in avengers 2 anyway so that doesn't see like it'll happen :/ Technically we have theoretically already seen the Vision, or his "earlier form" in Captain America. Phineas Horton's Artificial Man in the giant test tube. (yeah yeah I know they retconned out Vision being built from the torch. But its still the better known origin of him.) As for Peterson. Between all the Centipede stuff. Burns, Cyborg stuff etc. I'm starting to think MCU version of Deathlok maybe? I can't see them using A list comic characters for AoS. Where we get them they will probably be delightfully obscure. Deathlok seems to sorta fit the bill. I think Deathlok is a good guess. I'd never heard of him before but now that I've looked him up it does seem pretty likely. Quote
The Legonater Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 As far as I know Vision is a cyborg, but I may be mixing him with Omega Sentinel for whatever reason. It's pure theory anyways, I just think it'd be a neat direction for the character. Quote
Ultron Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 As far as I know Vision is a cyborg, but I may be mixing him with Omega Sentinel for whatever reason. It's pure theory anyways, I just think it'd be a neat direction for the character. I always thought his bodily organs and such we made of synthetic material but I could also be wrong. Isn't a cyborg like half human, half robot? I don't think Ultron used any organic parts to create the Vision given his disgust and pure hatred for all of humanity Quote
Dr Leg O Brick Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I've seen him cry a few times, and when She-Hulk ripped him to bits in the comics it looked, different. In Avengers 57 he's described as "...every inch a human being-except that all of his bodily organs are constructed of synthetic materials." He's frequently referred to as a synthezoid, a type of android. So Luna Lovegood is right. Hope that helps. Quote
Tanma Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 My main thoughts on the episode is just relief that Mike isn't dead. It just would seem like a waste to me, so I am glad we have have a recurring superhuman. On Coulson, that was a bit freaky. I don't think he will be the Vision (I'm holding out for JARVIS to get that role), but I won't be surprised if something about him is synthetic. Quote
Faefrost Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 As far as I know Vision is a cyborg, but I may be mixing him with Omega Sentinel for whatever reason. It's pure theory anyways, I just think it'd be a neat direction for the character. Vision is a full on Android. An artificial human built from, or in the same way as the original "artificial human" WW2 era Human Torch. He is somewhat organic and uses artificial muscle materials etc instead of overt robotics. Omega Sentinal is a cyborg. A living human in a robot body. Quote
Piranha Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Coulson, Vision, Ultron and Jarvis all need to remain their own separate characters IMHO in the MCU. Quote
Ultron Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Coulson, Vision, Ultron and Jarvis all need to remain their own separate characters IMHO in the MCU. I agree. Although I think it's most likely that Jarvis will turn into Ultron somehow. However, I don't think he'll stay as Ultron forever. I think they'll become separate entities Quote
Mr Man Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Oh bugger. I liked Mike Peterson more than the rest of the team put together (excluding FitzSimmonds). I likes Coulson in the films, now I couldn't care less what happens to him. I want more of Sitwell or Hill or hell even Ms Hand. The more I watch the more I dislike Ward (who can't act), May (who can act but is told to act like she can't), and especially Sky (who acts so annoying I probably wouldn't notice if she was killed off). Quote
Tanma Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 I don't think I feel quite so strong as you, but yeah I'm not particularly attached to the current cast. Maybe if Coulson was missing for a bit and Mike had replaced him for a while it would have been better. In other news-Yes! Ultimate Jess lives! And so does Miles and Kitty! And other people! Yes! In your face all those fans who were cheering Galactus on! Yeah, devour it! Quote
The Legonater Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 To be honest, I'm kind of surprised by the amount of people saying 'x character is boring' or 'x character can't act'. I always though AoS had a pretty decent cast - not amazing, but certainly better than a lot of other shows out there. Quote
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