Lego Technic 2h 2013

[Blakbird]

It's going to be a great year, hey wheres all the big technic heads for these important pictures, blackbird , conchas etc :)

Would like too hear there taughts! Mmm but they never comment on upcoming sets!

Maybe there lego undercover men :)

Hey, my head is normal sized! I have just read through this whole thread, and I honestly don't have much to add that hasn't been said. Both of the large sets looks excellent to me. Hard to compare the crane to 8421 without having them side by side, but I will eventually do just that! I have personally been asking for a "UCS" Technic set for years that is more "geared" (pardon the pun) toward adults instead of children. I can't say that 42009 is just for adults, but I think it comes closer to this goal than any set has before. I've also been asking for more parts in rare colors and more pneumatics, and the tow truck comes through on both counts. So it seems TLG has been listening to me! But no, I am not an undercover man.

[andythenorth]

Want to play the 'inspired by' game? Crane looks close to this one http://www.neeb-krane.de/upload/ltm_10955.1.jpg

[afoldad]

May be this (left top) orange car on the shelve

I think it may be the 9392 Quad Bike

[Kronos]

The Quad bike was from last year, and even from this small picture you can tell it's not the 9392.

[z3_2drive]

Monster truck...I know it's a smaller 2h set for younger fans, but really...i'm tired of the simple mog ball joint route it takes... for the 9398 it was practical because it was strong and had little room for error..but for a small manual set, why not make a more realistic or complex system instead of the mog joints and 6l links anyway this year looks awesome and I'ts going to be a hard choice deciding what to get and what not to get, it's all so great!

[Eigenbroetler]

70 cm long. Don't know the length of 8421's boom.

I think 8421 is 69,5

[designer-han]

Both sets looks excellent, whereof the Service Truck has my preference. Medium set with packed functions and new colors with cool looks. Is really an out of the box approach of TLC. It has an automated pneumatic pump, the vid audio noice makes the same clicking sound that the unimog makes to compress the air.

But, did anyone noticed from the vid that the LA's of the crane point 'downwards' in rest? Seams not really logical to me, would mean a lot of stress in the first moment to lift the boom.

And I agree with previous posts that the chassis of the crane would remain enough space to motorize it. Or should I stretch it directly to 14 wheels this time ? ;-)

Btw, I think TLC avoids the superstructure to slew by gearings on purpose. Just to prevent damage to the gears by kids who accidentally pushes the boom for the superstructure to slew. I lost many 24th gears of the Lift Truck 8071 and the Cherry Picker because kids pushed the boom downwards to fold. Hmmm, these kids were about ~ 5 years old... Maybe that was the problem. :-)

Edited January 31, 2013 by designer-han

[richthelegodude]

My point was that TLG used to make great technic toys, whilst a lot of the sets modelled real life machinery pretty well...

They still make great toys, but they typically no longer look to real life machinery for inspiration. They just use whatever mechanisms fit the job, which is commonly LA's and multiple motors rather than pneumatics and distribution gearboxes. It sold then (with better boxes I might add), so why not now? Has the user base changed that much? All of my childhood friends had no problems putting technic sets together, so why change the style of the instructions? We also all had Megadrive and SNES consoles, so the computer competition was present back then too.

Plus my statement on being a Dr. was more of a nod to lego inspiring me as a kid, rather than trying to win one over.

Edited January 31, 2013 by richthelegodude

[TechnicMati]

Wow Lego is revolutionizing the world of 8t gears I hope they do the same with all other .

Yes, I think 24 teeth gear should be next to be upgraded - should have smaller teeth at both sides to avoid cranking (or to make it possible to change a gear) in gearboxes while changing gears (gearboxes without driving rings - I mean lego gearboxes with a moving shaft that changes gears). 20 teeth gears do a great job there.

Edited January 31, 2013 by TechnicMati

[davidmull]

Hey, my head is normal sized! I have just read through this whole thread, and I honestly don't have much to add that hasn't been said. Both of the large sets looks excellent to me. Hard to compare the crane to 8421 without having them side by side, but I will eventually do just that! I have personally been asking for a "UCS" Technic set for years that is more "geared" (pardon the pun) toward adults instead of children. I can't say that 42009 is just for adults, but I think it comes closer to this goal than any set has before. I've also been asking for more parts in rare colors and more pneumatics, and the tow truck comes through on both counts. So it seems TLG has been listening to me! But no, I am not an undercover man.

I know ur head is normal :) , I ment ur one of the biggest technic fans / collectors on here if not the biggest :) it's just nice too hear ur taughts with so many years building technic etc ,

Thanks for ur reply.

[TechnicMati]

My point was that TLG used to make great technic toys, whilst a lot of the sets modelled real life machinery pretty well...

They still make great toys, but they typically no longer look to real life machinery for inspiration. They just use whatever mechanisms fit the job, which is commonly LA's and multiple motors rather than pneumatics and distribution gearboxes. It sold then (with better boxes I might add), so why not now? Has the user base changed that much? All of my childhood friends had no problems putting technic sets together, so why change the style of the instructions? We also all had Megadrive and SNES consoles, so the computer competition was present back then too.

Plus my statement on being a Dr. was more of a nod to lego inspiring me as a kid, rather than trying to win one over.

I think you just estimate old studfull sets over modern studless sets - maybe because of childhood memories. In the old days there were no LAs so pneumatics were more popular, but in some lego technic applications pneumatics don't do their job - LAs are better (I still wait maybe lego will introduce some parts for pneumatics to move cylinders with much bigger accuracy in the future?). According to distribution gearboxes - old studfull gearboxes with a moving axle (shaft) take much space plus 24 teeth gear doesn't make it's job there (if you want it to be RC it's unacceptable). That's why nowadays gearboxes based on driving rings are more popular - they just do their job and take very little space, they are practical. You can always MODIFY your models to make it more similar to old technic sets in terms of mechanisms.

All in all and in the end I have to disagree with you and tell that modern lego technic sets DO look to real life machinery for inspiration and they do a great job within studless building boundaries (which in fact IMO is much more challenging than the old times studfull building). I have to mention that I like we are gonna see some studfull parts in the coming 42009 liebherr and I have to say I am very impressed with the new mobile crane and service truck. I am just gonna have so many truck wheels after I buy 42009. Maybe lego should think about introducing sets without wheels for the future ROTFL :) - with a label "prepared for wheeling" like the new helicopter is prepared for being motorised ;) I am just gonna have tons of 62.4 x 20 S wheels :) Maybe I'll build a real eighteenwheeler with a lego architecture house to be transported on a huge trailer? Come on ice road and oversize truckers :)

Edited February 1, 2013 by TechnicMati

[tomacwhite]

I wonder if the outriggers/stabilisers on the Crane come out and lower by motor, or if you have to finish them off manually like the Crane Truck.

Either way, both of the large sets looks great.

[lazylegoist]

I think it may be the 9392 Quad Bike

It's probably the 42001 mini off-roader.

[davidmull]

I wonder if the outriggers/stabilisers on the Crane come out and lower by motor, or if you have to finish them off manually like the Crane Truck.

Either way, both of the large sets looks great.

Maybe read the last few pages and yes they come down automatically too.

Dos anyone else think the wheels look a tad small under 42008?

[Kronos]

Does anyone else think the wheels look a tad small under 42008?

I was thinking the same thing. This is probably the same scale as the 8109 flat-bed.

[TechnicMati]

I was thinking the same thing. This is probably the same scale as the 8109 flat-bed.

Yes, exactly the same scale. I have already in my mind my 8285 set with all new black panels, modified mudguards, compressor and mechanisms from the coming 42008 service truck. This renewed, modified 8285 tow truck is gonna rock :)

[skylinedan]

I think there a we bit smallish too, Think it would have been a better set if it had the 8258/ 8421's under it. Sorry to say I,m feeling the whole green thing either, but I may still buy it. The 42009 is a no brainer though, I,ll end up with a couple of them for sure, and maybe one to sell years after its retired. I think this is gonna be one of those sets like the 8421 or the bull dozer.

Dan

Edited February 1, 2013 by skylinedan

[Technic Gearhead]

Yes, exactly the same scale. I have already in my mind my 8285 set with all new black panels, modified mudguards, compressor and mechanisms from the coming 42008 service truck. This renewed, modified 8285 tow truck is gonna rock :)

Excellent idea - resto-modded with modern updates!

[Jim]

I am glad the "Yellow Technic, Panel Plate 1 x 5 x 11" are coming back. The prices on Bricklink are ridiculous.

[jantjeuh]

I am glad the "Yellow Technic, Panel Plate 1 x 5 x 11" are coming back.

Same here! Lots of useful panels in 40009.

[Jim]

Same here! Lots of useful panels in 40009.

8 euros for a single panel is not what I have in mind. I will wait until the cheap ones are available. The crane must be a financial disaster for all those bricklink sellers

[Theo van Vroenhoven]

8 euros for a single panel is not what I have in mind. I will wait until the cheap ones are available. The crane must be a financial disaster for all those bricklink sellers

I wonder how much you should invest to 'upgrade' your 8421 to this new crane.

There will be a few new (expensive?) pieces but the rest is quite common if you already own 8421.

It is not that I don't have te money but it is getting a little crowded in the house with all those models and boxes

[Jim]

My best guess is, that for most of us, especially the ones owning the 8421 and some other construction sets, it will suffice to buy less than 100 extra parts.

I know I can't resist the "opening the box experience" for a set with over 2600 parts

When the part list is available we can subtract the 8421 inventory, using the application BrickStore. It will be quite easy to determine the difference.

(or Rebrickable)

Edited February 1, 2013 by Gekke Ted

[Eigenbroetler]

Same here! Lots of useful panels in 40009.

no panels, only a christmas tree and a fireplace and some presents.

[Jim]

no panels, only a christmas tree and a fireplace and some presents.