Lego Technic 2h 2013

[dhc6twinotter]

Nice find! The crane in that video looks a bit different than the other models we've seen. The panels on the sides of the superstructures are missing, and it looks like there are now 2 grey panels instead of one used above the chassis gearbox.

[DLuders]

@ dhc6twinotter: Daniel, which panels are you referring to?

BrickshowTV's

of just the Lego Technic 42009 Mobile Crane MkII at the New York Toy Fair:

Edited February 15, 2013 by DLuders

[Technic Gearhead]

She's rounding into fine form! I like the additional LBG 1x5x11 panel on the top of the chassis instead of a bunch of stacked liftarms (4 before I think). I don't much care for the stacked liftarm aesthetic except in unavoidable moderation like the side of the 42008. These aren't system bricks!

[DLuders]

OK, I see what you mean now. Here's an older (February 2nd) photo of the set, with those Light Bluish Grey liftarms in the midsection of the chassis instead of the Technic Panel used now. As dhc6twinotter noted, the horizontal Technic Panels that once were at the back of the model (forward of the battery box) are now gone in the images above. Ignore the red circle; it has no meaning in this discussion.

Edited February 15, 2013 by DLuders

[dhc6twinotter]

@ dhc6twinotter: Daniel, which panels are you referring to?

Hey David, I was referring to the light bluish grey 5x11 panels above the gearbox in the chassis, just above the 2nd and 3rd axles. Also, the 5x11 yellow panel on the side of the superstructure (opposite of the gearbox selector) that was shown in the old photos is not show on this panel.

Other differences I notice is the color of the pulleys in the wheels (now light grey instead of dark grey), the white axles in the outriggers, and the axle on top of the boom is now at a more shallow angle.

I don't know whether this picture or the other picture represents what we will see in the final model, but aside from the color of the pulleys in the wheels, I like this version better.

EDIT: Sorry, I just realized these points were brought up several pages ago. I'm a bit late I see!

Edited February 15, 2013 by dhc6twinotter

[Technic Gearhead]

I have noticed two variations of the way the yellow panels are attached to the side of the battery box, the above image being the cleaner and preferred design. It will be interesting to see if the area circled will get any additional tweaking as it looks a bit unresolved. It seems like a dream to see another future Technic icon in the making!

[davidmull]

42008 looks as good as ever. That mini monster truck looks bad lol :)

[DLuders]

I still can't believe that the 42005 Monster Truck will have a Suggested Retail Price of USD $49.99. When you look at the parts that you get, it's probably worth only USD $34.99. It makes you wonder if The Lego Group will be providing some better tires for it. I don't know what could justify that high a price.

Edited February 15, 2013 by DLuders

[davidmull]

Dluder i totally agree , something very wrong with that price.

I have noticed two variations of the way the yellow panels are attached to the side of the battery box, the above image being the cleaner and preferred design. It will be interesting to see if the area circled will get any additional tweaking as it looks a bit unresolved. It seems like a dream to see another future Technic icon in the making!

Icon i don't think so!

Iv never in any other year seen such disappointment in people over this years flagship.

And now there removing panels which makes it look even more bare. :(

Edited February 15, 2013 by davidmull

[Balrog]

Iv never in any other year seen such disappointment in people over this years flagship.

And now there removing panels which makes it look even more bare. :(

I think people should calm down a bit. As you can clearly see, they changed a lot between the 42009 from Nuremberg and NYC. These are still preliminary models. We should wait until the final model gets shown. Then we can still argue over this and that. For those who don't like the crane at all, these people can't be helped. But all others should shift down a gear and practice patience.

[Theo van Vroenhoven]

As you can clearly see, they changed a lot between the 42009 from Nuremberg and NYC. These are still preliminary models. We should wait until the final model gets shown.

Does that mean that they have to change the box art as well?

Or does it happen that the box art differs from the final model?

[Balrog]

I would say, that if the model changes in areas visible on the box-art, they will have to change it. I have never really seen the box-art to be different from the model. Usually the fron side is also shown on the building instructions, which would be very bad to show something different.

[Pauger]

Back in 2009 the first box picture showed an m-motor on the box of the crane truck If I remember correctly. So that they change the box isn't completely unlikely.

Edit: The boom is also completely different here.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Pauger

[jadedomg]

I still can't believe that the 42005 Monster Truck will have a Suggested Retail Price of USD $49.99. When you look at the parts that you get, it's probably worth only USD $34.99. It makes you wonder if The Lego Group will be providing some better tires for it. I don't know what could justify that high a price.

This is one set I am considering dropping off my wanted list just because of price, it will end up being $60-65CDN and I would rather put those funds towards buying a duplicate of a larger set as I don't see many parts I like i it and the wheels are unimpressive for a monster truck. mostly due to what I would consider a unjustified price, much like the dirtbike that is $50CDN, I will buy it but only if it is on sale for at least 20% off i will not be paying full retail for it due to budget concerns.

[designer-han]

Seams indeed an improved version of 42009. Interesting to see if the T-beam 3x3 will make it into a yellow version....

[GregoryBrick]

I still can't believe that the 42005 Monster Truck will have a Suggested Retail Price of USD $49.99. When you look at the parts that you get, it's probably worth only USD $34.99. It makes you wonder if The Lego Group will be providing some better tires for it. I don't know what could justify that high a price.

The price seems consistent to me, especially compared to sets like the 9392 quad bike and the 8081 extreme cruiser, which are also based around a chassis (rather than the emphasis being on crane or excavator functions).

You get four wheels with fully-independent suspension, which means 4 shock absorbers and 4 track rods; and 4-wheel steering, which means 2 power joints with 2 universal joints inside them. If you are used to buying every flagship set and using BrickLink a lot these parts may not mean much. However, these parts in these quantities are rather uncommon in a $50 set - often, even more expensive sets will only have a swingarm suspension in the rear or only 2-3 shock absorbers, along with rather simple steering, as far as I can see, until you get to supercar terrain. I actually think it is good value.

[IJsmuts]

Does that mean that they have to change the box art as well?

Or does it happen that the box art differs from the final model?

I guess this is still prel box art. If i look good at the text on the right side around the boom, i only see XxxxXxxx at posible fuctions? Or do i need glasses?!

[Choops]

The two picture on the box dont even match each other. (note the end of the middle boom).

Steve

[DLuders]

On his Flickr photoset, Barman (Barry Bosman) "reverse-engineered" the Lego Technic 42005 Monster Truck set. He wrote, "After looking at the Nuremberg Toy Fair video, I decided to try and reverse engineer it.

I'm sure there are still some errors, but I will find out once the set instructions are available. It is a fun little set. Because of the big wheels it can't steer very far, but this is compensated by the double steering."

Edited February 15, 2013 by DLuders

[skylinedan]

I guess this is still prel box art. If i look good at the text on the right side around the boom, i only see XxxxXxxx at posible fuctions? Or do i need glasses?!

I guess this is still prel box art. If i look good at the text on the right side around the boom, i only see XxxxXxxx at posible fuctions? Or do i need glasses?!

Yes your seeing that right, but also theres no piece count on the box. I wonder where the 2600 piece number came from, unless someone asked the right question in the UK toy show The missing panels dont bother me, remember the F-1 car that showed up on Ebay was not put together right either. I would put money on the real boxes have not even been put together yet for this set, its only Feb.

Dan

[jadedomg]

The price seems consistent to me, especially compared to sets like the 9392 quad bike and the 8081 extreme cruiser, which are also based around a chassis (rather than the emphasis being on crane or excavator functions).

You get four wheels with fully-independent suspension, which means 4 shock absorbers and 4 track rods; and 4-wheel steering, which means 2 power joints with 2 universal joints inside them. If you are used to buying every flagship set and using BrickLink a lot these parts may not mean much. However, these parts in these quantities are rather uncommon in a $50 set - often, even more expensive sets will only have a swingarm suspension in the rear or only 2-3 shock absorbers, along with rather simple steering, as far as I can see, until you get to supercar terrain. I actually think it is good value.

Compared to the quad bike it is a poor value, the quad bike is $30, and yes has smaller tires and probably 100 less parts, but following the pricing lego does (the red jet was $50 US, $65 CDN) It would mean the monster truck would be $65 CDN and that really is not a good value at all, even with the rare parts. I imagine I will be able to bricklink the set for $20-30 under MRSP for the set even with shipping. I am just thinking lego overvalued this set from what we have seen photo wise, comparing 9394(jet) to this set I would walk away from the monster truck everytime at that price. Even if I got it at retail american price I don't think it is worth it. Personal opinions are just that and the only reason the price on this set bothers me is I actually like the set, but the price makes it very hard to swallow as a purchase.

Edited February 15, 2013 by jadedomg

[davidmull]

I'm not very bothered about small sets, there more for kids, I mostly buy large and medium sets.

I don't see the fascination with the 'baby' monster truck!

[sama]

About the new crane, the pieces inside the wheel hubs also turned from grey-blue to light-grey-blue. I like the darker ones personally (but it may slightly remind me of 8295 Telehandler). Over all, I like the looks of this crane (complete with panels). Compared to 8053, 8053 is a very fun and good little crane and this would go along with that real nice (for whoever said 8053 sucks).

Edited February 16, 2013 by sama

[Anio]

With yellow, it could be even better IMO.

The chassis lacks yellow a lot.

[davidmull]

About the new crane, the pieces inside the wheel hubs also turned from grey-blue to light-grey-blue. I like the darker ones personally (but it may slightly remind me of 8295 Telehandler). Over all, I like the looks of this crane (complete with panels). Compared to 8053, 8053 is a very fun and good little crane and this would go along with that real nice (for whoever said 8053 sucks).

You can't compare 8053 to this new crane or even 8421.

With yellow, it could be even better IMO.

The chassis lacks yellow a lot.

You would have too much yellow then. Yellow chassis parts would be very unrealistic.