Lego Technic 2h 2013

[Dutch_EE]

Towards the sets of this year, I would have to say that I am very enthousiastic about the Crane and the recovery truck. Lego has done the same thing a I did, (build a tow truck with 3 mechanical functions driven by a motor, 1 compressor and a pneumatic lift), but in a smaller model (I used 8285). This could be one of the most complicated models, simply by the amount of functions in such a small space.

The crane is a must-have for me. It will be a very interesting build, simply because of the enourmous amount of parts (probably 1500+ pins).

@Porty,

Towards the car, this would be very interesting. Most of the things you listed could be in this car. The only thing Lego wouldn't do would be the

4-speed transmission. The reasons for this would be that the gearbox would either be too weak to power the car (in forth/third gear) and a reverse would be stupid, because the motor goes in both directions. Also, to operate this gearbox via RC you would need at least 2 extra servo-motors, which would make the model even more expensive. If there would be a gearbox I would love to see Lego try a 2-speed automatic. That way, the model would automaticaly speed up without overstressing the motor and you wouldn't need an extra servo.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Dutch_EE

[davidmull]

I'd love too see a large scale rc forklift next year, it's never been done yet, :)

[allanp]

I had a hunch that this years set would be a supercar, so maybe next year. Gearbox would be easy enought to do, just needs a new evolution, something like this:

[Porty]

Does Lego still have a license with Mercedes???

[Paul Boratko]

If Lego ever releases a motorized Supercar with any type of speed changing gearbox, it will have to be Lightweight and the Gearbox would have to be automatic.... Can you imagine how many people will try and start the model out in 4th gear..? It could be a recipe for disaster...

I had a hunch that this years set would be a supercar, so maybe next year. Gearbox would be easy enought to do, just needs a new evolution, something like this:

I have been waiting for gears like that for years...

[Alasdair Ryan]

I have been waiting for gears like that for years...

I think you could be waiting for some time yet....

Lego has made new types of gears every year for 3 years now....

Edited February 26, 2013 by Alasdair Ryan

[Paul Boratko]

I built a 2 experimental chassis a few years ago with simple remote 2 speed changing transmissions and the one problem that I had was the drive rings didn't want to stay engaged and would eventually slip out of engagement(Primarily due to the speed).... Granted this was with a chassis that was very lightweight and went somewhat fast... I wouldn't expect people to purchase a supercar with a gearbox that moved at the crawler's speed.. Drive rings and clutch gears have been around for almost 20 years and there still has never been a drivable model that made use of them(outside of the 8043)...

I think the current parts would need a serious upgrade to pull this off...

[Alasdair Ryan]

I built a 2 experimental chassis a few years ago with simple remote 2 speed changing transmissions and the one problem that I had was the drive rings didn't want to stay engaged and would eventually slip out of engagement(Primarily due to the speed).

You can add a worm gear to the selector to stop it from jumping out of sync.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Alasdair Ryan

[jorgeopesi]

We always have the same problem people want faster Lego RC models... Lego only can do functionality models where you can see how it works everything... if they want speed Lego isn´t the answer.

[Paul Boratko]

You add a worm gear to the selector to stop it from jumping out of sync.

That was how I initially had it set up and it worked ok, but I was trying to keep everything as tightly compact as I could and I wanted the drive ring to engage as fast as possible so I switched it up.. I was using a M-Motor with an axle going right through changeover catch and it would only stay engaged for a short while before jumping out of gear... You also get quite a bit of grinding and snapping when the drive ring engages into the clutch gear while shifting up while it is in motion... I really do not think that the current line of gearbox parts is right for a large motorized vehicle that you expect performance out of... I ruined several driving rings on this chassis which was why I abandoned the whole idea...

Edited February 26, 2013 by Paul Boratko

[Alasdair Ryan]

Could you use two rubber disks/pads to slow the axle down.?

[Ondra]

Crane looks awesome. Any more news???

BTW, After 2 hours of speculation of past technic years, not using the computer even, I think I know what TLG is planning for 2014--- An RC Supercar.

Some of the specs I think it will have are these:

-Working V8

-Hubs from 42000

-The new reinforced 8 tooth gears

-A four-speed transmission

-1 IR Remote, 1 IR Receiver V2, 1 L Motor, 1 Servo Motor

-Possibly licensed with Mercedes Benz

-Probably ~1400 parts

-Blue, Red, or Orange (Hopefully Blue)

-New Wheels

To back up new wheels from Niels on TB: "Whether we get it or someone close to it back again is not in our scope yet, the only thing I can say and promise is that there will be new wheels & tyres in our assortment already in 2013 and again in 2014."

Who agrees

I agree, but in some points.I agree that next year probably see next supercar(Three years after last supercar is main reason to think about it) and also probably with new wheels.But I dont think so, it will be motorised.We have there 9398 and this year also technic challenge winner.

I think it will be first half set, but this year we have also car based vehicle .But who knows...

[Anio]

The 24 clutch gear is a part that should exist for ages...

For example, when you see the nightmare on 8053 and all those 16t, it is incomprehensible that they did not produced such a 24t yet.

I think I know what TLG is planning for 2014

[Porty]

I agree, but in some points.I agree that next year probably see next supercar(Three years after last supercar is main reason to think about it) and also probably with new wheels.But I dont think so, it will be motorised.We have there 9398 and this year also technic challenge winner.

I think it will be first half set, but this year we have also car based vehicle .But who knows...

Three years is also my reason, but also because every other year, they do an RC set...

2009-Huge Set

2010-RC Set

2011-Huge Set

2012-RC Set

2013-Huge Set

So judging by logic, I can accurately say that 2014= RC set. At first I thought maybe just a bulldozer, but I doubt it... Also, don't say that lego is incapable of making a RC car...

[Meatman]

Three years is also my reason, but also because every other year, they do an RC set...

2009-Huge Set

2010-RC Set

2011-Huge Set

2012-RC Set

2013-Huge Set

So judging by logic, I can accurately say that 2014= RC set. At first I thought maybe just a bulldozer, but I doubt it... Also, don't say that lego is incapable of making a RC car...

There is a HUGE difference between that RC set and what you have shown and what you are claiming are RC sets that Lego has released in 2010 and 2012. The 8369 set is actually Radio Controlled, while the other 2 sets you mentioned are Infrared. Infrared needs to be pointed at the device like a TV remote to get it to work, while Radio Controlled does not, which makes driving fast maneuverable vehicles much easier. That RC car you are showing also only contains 88 parts to keep it very light. When you are operating a radio controlled model, there is no need to have to chase the vehicle around like you would with an IR(infrared) remote.

I also have to agree with Paul about the transmissions in an IR or RC car. Unless Lego makes a transmission that is already built into a module that can up and down shift itself. Lego would have a nightmare on their hands if they released some type of vehicle that the consumer could start out in a higher gear than 1st.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Meatman

[Pauger]

2009-Huge Set

2010-RC Set

2011-Huge Set

2012-RC Set

2013-Huge Set

So judging by logic, I can accurately say that 2014= RC set.

Was it a coincidence you started counting at 2009?

Worst basis for a conclusion I have seen in a long time.

[Matt The Tuba Guy]

If you go back to 2003 when the studless system was fully integrated, you get this (I have included all sets with 1000+ sets parts):

2003: medium set (fully pneumatic though!)

2004: large set with pneumatics

2005: very large set with pneumatics and motor

2006: very large set with pneumatics (also a large set with nothing special)

2007: large set, RC PF (also a large set with nothing special)

2008: large set, PF (also a large set with LA's)

2009: Very large set, PF, LA's (also two large sets with LA's)

2010: large set, RC PF, LA's (also a large set with LA's)

2011: Extremely large set, PF and Pneumatics (also two large sets with PF)

2012: large set, RC PF (also a large set with PF and LA's, and another large set with LA's)

2013: Extremely large set, PF, LA's (also a large set with PF, LA's and Pneumatics, and another large set with LA's)

2014: large or very large set with at least PF, this is basically guaranteed. (also probably two other large sets, one in 1h, and at least one with PF)

Medium = 500-1000 parts

Large = 1000-1500 parts

Very large = 1500-2000 parts

Extremely large = 2000+ parts

After laying it out like that, I have to say that 2013 is probably the best year in recent times!

Edited February 27, 2013 by Matt The Tuba Guy

[Splat]

I'm not too excited about the mobile crane, but I am looking forward to the service truck.

I've mentioned it before (link), and I'll mention it again - I would like to see a fully RC forklift, which should be possible with the current PF components, and would be great if it had pneumatics with a compressor and an air tank. Omniwheels would be good too.

If you go back to 2003 when the studless system was fully integrated, you get this (I have included all sets with 1000+ sets):

The Brickset Advanced Queries are really useful for looking up this type of information. eg. Technic Sets since 2003 with 1000+ pieces

[AndroTech]

Brickshelf user changxinwu, has made replica of 2H set 42008 Tow truck. I think its quite good, only the pictures are a bit blurry.

[davidmull]

Very nice, I love 42008 it's very nice, only issue i have with it is the wheels look way too small under this set.

They should have designed better wheels. When have u ever seen a tow truck with low profile tires lol :)

[paul_delahaye]

I think I'd have liked to see better rear sttabilisers on the Tow truck, those technic panels don't look very practical?

[Anio]

I think I'd have liked to see better rear sttabilisers on the Tow truck, those technic panels don't look very practical?

We discussed about this on setechnic.

They appears not to be outriggers but something that could be translated to "spade anchor" (??) in English (bêche d'ancrage in French).

edit : however, panels looks curious there.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Anio

[D3K]

Agreed, it resembles some sort of anchoring system, used when recovering vehicles. To keep the recovery truck stationary when winching very heavy loads horizontally.

Similar in function, I would assume, to the dozer blade you see on military tracked recovery vehicles

Edited February 27, 2013 by D3K

[dhc6twinotter]

I agree with the two posts above. They appear to be more of a spade assembly rather than stabilizers. Some of the tow trucks in the US have spades, much like this Jerr-Dan rotator:

Or this smaller tow truck:

I've seen pictures of a few tow trucks that have spades on the rear, in addition to stabilizers on the sides. IIRC, the 80 ton Jerr-Dan is one of them.

Edited February 27, 2013 by dhc6twinotter

[rm8]

Very nice, I love 42008 it's very nice, only issue i have with it is the wheels look way too small under this set.

They should have designed better wheels. When have u ever seen a tow truck with low profile tires lol :)

Pimped by Xzibit:) Only thing we left to do - chromed rims:)

Edited February 28, 2013 by rm8