Pirates of the Caribbean 5

[Captain Pirate Man]

I get why people think 4 is the worst of the series, I've been watching all of the films a lot lately. But having said that, it's not nearly as bad as a lot of people try and make it out to be. It's very much on par with the rest of the series, it's not like it was a massive drop in quality. 

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

I feel 3 was the worst in the series, honestly. It was dull and the plot was convoluted. Also it hypes the participation of all the pirate lords, but in the end they do quite literally nothing.

[Captain Pirate Man]

I agree, 3 is easily the worst. Im going back and fourth between 2 and 4. 2 has higher highs, but lower lows. 4 is more consistent imo, but it's not nearly as epic either.

Edited October 2, 2016 by Captain Pirate Man

[CM4Sci]

Trailer!

 

[Actor Builder]

Interesting. It looks like the same plot as all of the others: a bunch of undead pirates chasing Johnny Depp.

[Captain Pirate Man]

Looks fun, I'm excited.

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

57 minutes ago, Actor Builder said:

Interesting. It looks like the same plot as all of the others: a bunch of undead pirates chasing Johnny Depp.

But that wasn't the point of POTC 4, hence why I found it so refreshing.

I agree this plot device might be a tad trite. However if it's good I'll give it a pass. Heck, a lot of people gave TFA a pass, and that was a blatant A New Hope rip-off...

[Actor Builder]

1 hour ago, BrickHat said:

But that wasn't the point of POTC 4, hence why I found it so refreshing.

I agree this plot device might be a tad trite. However if it's good I'll give it a pass. Heck, a lot of people gave TFA a pass, and that was a blatant A New Hope rip-off...

It had Zombie Pirates chasing Jack Sparrow... The whole franchise is rooted in the idea of piratical immortality.

Curse of The Black Pearl was about Immortal Skeleton Pirates and how Jack Sparrow outsmarted them.

Dead Man's Chest was about Immortal Fishy Pirates chasing Jack Sparrow to kill him.

At World's End was about Immortal Fishy Pirates and how Jack Sparrow outsmarted them.

On Stranger Tides was about Blackbeard's Zombie Pirates searching for Immortality and how Jack Sparrow outsmarted them.

Dead Men Tell No Tales seems to be about Immortal Ghostly Pirates chasing Jack Sparrow to kill him.

See a pattern? The scene in the trailer remind me of the scene where Jack gets the black spot on his hand. They're going to kill him! Foreshadowing!

 

I like the films, but they're all about the same thing, really.

 

See, I didn't like any Star Wars films besides Episode IV and Episode I, for that reason.

[Rotundus]

How convenient!  "On Stranger Tides" was one of the featured movies this weekend on TV.     After further review... The play stands as called. I still think it the lesser of the series, and for the same reasons, too.  But I will have to moderate that somewhat by saying that it did have some very well conceived scenes. And, that over-all it was quite enjoyable film... over-the-top, absurdly unbelievable bits not withstanding.  I've found that it helps to suspend ones belief in reality just a bit when dealing with a Disney film. After all, children can"t fly... Not without a little help from some pixie dust! 

I think that the true value of OST will become more clear once we get to see the new film, and have a chance to better place both of them within the context of the POTC realm.

[Captain Pirate Man]

Yes all of these films clearly rely on a certain amount of supernatural forces running amuck. At first, that used to bother me, but I sort of enjoy that aspect now. 

[General Magma]

Why is it being called "Salazar's Revenge"? Did they actually change the title to that now? I hope not, sounds horrible.
"Dead Men Tell No Tales" was an awesome title and nowhere as generic as the above.

[N-4K0]

It still stands as "Dead Men Tell No Tales" on IMDb, has the name been changed elsewhere?

[BrickBob Studpants]

On wikipedia, it is stated that the name of the film has been changed only in Italy, France, Spain and Brazil  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_Dead_Men_Tell_No_Tales

Makes little sense to me, why drop the great original title and replace it with something lame and uninspired like that? I can't wait to see how they'll butcher the title for the German version 

The trailer itself is great though, sets the mood perfectly without revealing anything major plot-wise  I can already tell that I'll like Salazar, he shapes up to be a great villain just like his precursors in the franchise  Speaking of which, I wonder whether he'll sport a hat at some point in the movie, otherwise he'd be the first POTC villain without a fancy hat (or wig) 

[Kalhiki]

Gotta say, I was a little skeptical at first when I heard that another PotC film was coming. I enjoyed the first trilogy, but wasn't too thrilled with the fourth film, which just felt like a "hey, let's make another movie" cash-grab. 

It still remains to be seen how much I'll enjoy this installment, but I got to say, I quite like what I'm seeing. I really like what they did with the ghosts; how everything is all floaty like they're moving through water. That's very neat. It's off to a good start, but I really hope they decide to make this film a jumping off point into something bigger. I really don't want PotC to end up being a series of stand-alone films that get released every few years. I'd like to see some overarching plot.

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

4 hours ago, Lego-Freak said:

On wikipedia, it is stated that the name of the film has been changed only in Italy, France, Spain and Brazil  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_Dead_Men_Tell_No_Tales

Makes little sense to me, why drop the great original title and replace it with something lame and uninspired like that? I can't wait to see how they'll butcher the title for the German version 

The trailer itself is great though, sets the mood perfectly without revealing anything major plot-wise  I can already tell that I'll like Salazar, he shapes up to be a great villain just like his precursors in the franchise  Speaking of which, I wonder whether he'll sport a hat at some point in the movie, otherwise he'd be the first POTC villain without a fancy hat (or wig) 

Maybe they're concerned some people won't be too familiar with the Disney ride.

Edited October 4, 2016 by BrickHat

[xboxtravis7992]

16 hours ago, BrickHat said:

Maybe they're concerned some people won't be too familiar with the Disney ride.

It could be translation into Latin based languages. "Los Muertos no dicen Historias" just doesn't roll off the tongue as well as "Dead Men Tell no Tales." Disney has done this before with many of their films, for example Inside Out in Spanish (Latin America) is titled Intensa Mente (Intense Mind). Sounds stupid in English, but trying to say Inside Out in Spanish (Adentro y Afuera?) just doesn't sound right.

Edited October 4, 2016 by xboxtravis7992

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

28 minutes ago, xboxtravis7992 said:

It could be translation into Latin based languages. "Los Muertos no dicen Historias" just doesn't roll off the tongue as well as "Dead Men Tell no Tales." Disney has done this before with many of their films, for example Inside Out in Spanish (Latin America) is titled Intensa Mente (Intense Mind). Sounds stupid in English, but trying to say Inside Out in Spanish (Adentro y Afuera?) just doesn't sound right.

Well, you wouldn't say "dicen", rather it would be "Los Muertos no Cuentan Historias", but I agree that's just not short and catchy. Long words are both a good and a bad thing of Spanish. "Intensa Mente" is a play on words, since it sounds like "intensamente" (intensely) or Intense Mind, like you said. However, as a kid I did notice a lot of films had their titles changed to Spanish versions unnecessarily. The best translation of "inside out" is "al revés", but that just doesn't work nearly as well as the pun.

[xboxtravis7992]

3 hours ago, BrickHat said:

Well, you wouldn't say "dicen", rather it would be "Los Muertos no Cuentan Historias", but I agree that's just not short and catchy. Long words are both a good and a bad thing of Spanish. "Intensa Mente" is a play on words, since it sounds like "intensamente" (intensely) or Intense Mind, like you said. However, as a kid I did notice a lot of films had their titles changed to Spanish versions unnecessarily. The best translation of "inside out" is "al revés", but that just doesn't work nearly as well as the pun.

"Cuentan", your right that is a better translation. Darn my Spanish is sure getting sloppy! 

Anyways it does seem the title of Inside Out in Spain actually was "Al Reves" but the pun is completely lost as you mentioned... But anyway back to the subject of Pirates!

[rodiziorobs]

I agree that it's probably a language issue, at least for Latin America--not because the original title doesn't translate well (it does), but because Brazil in particular has a long and glorious tradition of translating movie titles horribly.

 

[BrickBob Studpants]

On 3.10.2016 at 10:01 PM, Lego-Freak said:

On wikipedia, it is stated that the name of the film has been changed only in Italy, France, Spain and Brazil  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_Dead_Men_Tell_No_Tales

Makes little sense to me, why drop the great original title and replace it with something lame and uninspired like that? I can't wait to see how they'll butcher the title for the German version 

Looks like I jinxed myself there, now the title has been changed for the German version as well... to Salazar's Revenge  Why replace an English title with another English title? The same thing happened to Taken (96 Hours in Germany) and a lot of the Marvel movies (e.g. The First Avenger: Civil War instead of Captain America: Civil War). Maybe they think English titles sound better but aren't convinced general audiences understand the language enough to get titles like that and instead use buzzwords everyone understands (like revenge). The last POTC movies at least had German titles that somewhat relate to the original ones or were even direct translations

[Tariq j]

 Looks really good, Javier Bardem was amazing in Skyfall and no doubt he'll be just as good, if not better here.

[Ardelon]

I like that teaser; my anticipation just went up dramatically. 

My opinion on the name change: DMTNT is a well-known piratical phrase in english, but these other languages probably dont have this phrase, so there was no nead for a literal translation. So, they went for a descriptive translation.

FWIW, I think (POTC:)DMTNT is too long and awkward. (POTC:)Salazars Revenge is shorter and to the point of the movie. And DMTNT sounds too generic. 

[rodiziorobs]

4 hours ago, Ardelon said:

FWIW, I think (POTC:)DMTNT is too long and awkward. (POTC:)Salazars Revenge is shorter and to the point of the movie. And DMTNT sounds too generic. 

"Salazar's Revenge" is more descriptive of the movie's particulars, the problem is that it sounds like a made-for-TV movie or direct-to-video (or something you would find when scraping out the bottom of your Netflix queue).

While" Dead Men Tell no Tales" is indeed more generic--a movie with that title could be about anything so long as it had pirates--it is also more cinematic. It suggests something more sweeping and epic than the alternate title.

Titles aside, I am a little hopeful but none too optimistic for this movie. I think the first was lightning in a bottle in that the follow-up attempts simply haven't been able to recreate the magic of the first one. Maybe that's because the first POTC was primarily a pirate story that played out like a good horror flick--the supernatural elements were only hinted at, introduced slowly, until suddenly Elizabeth was knee-deep in it, which set it up really for the great finale.

The sequels entirely overplay the supernatural elements with very little suspense and go overboard on the CGI to where everything seems to take a backseat to showing-off-the-cool-things-the-animation-department-can-do (AWE was the worst offender here).

Still, I will reserve total judgment of POTC:DMTNT/SR () at least until we get a full trailer.

Edited October 5, 2016 by rodiziorobs

[Cammo]

I looked for some more info on Imdb and added the trailer and the spoilerish cast on the 1st page.

[Legoman123]

Guys I know this isn't directly to do with Lego but I didn't know where else to post this.  

I wanted to know if anyone knew the reason for Cotton, Ragetti and Pintel absence in POTC 5?  We know Marty is going to be in the movie, along with Jack the monkey. But why not the other 3 recuring characters?