LEGO LotR - general discussion

[kevkipo]

Proximo you are starting to annoy me, So i stop talking to you :)

I don't want Hate to be served with my Lego, So i step out of your restaurant (Dudun Tss)

Back to discussing about these sets

I just wish that the retailers catalog showed LotR sets instead of Hobbit ones.

Or Hobbit and LOTR Sets? How does that sound ;)

Lego making an LOTR CMF series would be inordinately profitable given just how many would be purchased by AFOLs. Let's dream for a second...

Lego LOTR CMF Series: 16 figs, $2.99 apiece

I've marked after each listing how many of each I would purchase at minimum.

Free Peoples:

Gondorian Warrior: Helmet, Shield, Gladius. x10

Man of Rohan: Helmet, Battleaxe, Green cape. x2

Numenorean Warrior: Helmet, Shield, Spear, black cape. x6

Last Alliance Elf: Helmet, Shield, Elven Spear, blue cape. x6

Guard of the Fountain Court: Helmet, Spear, black cape. x4

Galadhrim Warrior: Helmet, Elven Spear, grey-blue cape. x4

Ithilien Ranger: black cape and black hood, bow, quiver. x3

Oathbreaker: deathly green cape, helm, green-colored weapon. x5

Forces of Darkness:

Morannon Orc: Grey skin color, crude sword, Great Eye shield. x4

Morgul Orc: Pale green skin color, crude polearm. x5

Corsair of Umbar: ratty black hair, cutlass, corsair torso. perhaps a bow and quiver. x3

Mordor Uruk: crude mace, ratty black hair, blueish skin. x6

Moria Goblin: iconic Moria Goblin shield and helmet, crude sword, dark green skin. x8

Haradrim Warrior: black ninjago headwrap, spear, bow, quiver. x4

Easterling: helmet, tower shield, poleaxe. x10

Nazgul: same as in Weathertop (most people still want/need to collect 9 of them) x9

And I can definitely see myself scraping up every spare penny to buy more Last Alliance, Gondorians, and Easterlings. Lego Unlicensed is about the bricks, but Lego Licensed is about the minifigures - and minifigures are the coolest way the build armies. Smaller and less goofy than action figures, bigger and easier to manage that Games Workshop stuff.

Go work at the Lego Company, I beg you

[Supersonic]

And I can definitely see myself scraping up every spare penny to buy more Last Alliance, Gondorians, and Easterlings. Lego Unlicensed is about the bricks, but Lego Licensed is about the minifigures - and minifigures are the coolest way the build armies. Smaller and less goofy than action figures, bigger and easier to manage that Games Workshop stuff.

I would buy dozens of these...but I'm not sure of the licence situation there.

[qiadris]

Lego LOTR CMF Series: 16 figs, $2.99 apiece

Just take my money, take it!

Edited January 8, 2014 by qiadris

[Brickadiergerard]

Just take my money, take it!

Mine too. The kids can fend for themselves. Who needs food anyway?

[LegoDad]

Lego making an LOTR CMF series would be inordinately profitable given just how many would be purchased by AFOLs. Let's dream for a second...

Lego LOTR CMF Series: 16 figs, $2.99 apiece

I've marked after each listing how many of each I would purchase at minimum.

Free Peoples:

Gondorian Warrior: Helmet, Shield, Gladius. x10

Man of Rohan: Helmet, Battleaxe, Green cape. x2

Numenorean Warrior: Helmet, Shield, Spear, black cape. x6

Last Alliance Elf: Helmet, Shield, Elven Spear, blue cape. x6

Guard of the Fountain Court: Helmet, Spear, black cape. x4

Galadhrim Warrior: Helmet, Elven Spear, grey-blue cape. x4

Ithilien Ranger: black cape and black hood, bow, quiver. x3

Oathbreaker: deathly green cape, helm, green-colored weapon. x5

Forces of Darkness:

Morannon Orc: Grey skin color, crude sword, Great Eye shield. x4

Morgul Orc: Pale green skin color, crude polearm. x5

Corsair of Umbar: ratty black hair, cutlass, corsair torso. perhaps a bow and quiver. x3

Mordor Uruk: crude mace, ratty black hair, blueish skin. x6

Moria Goblin: iconic Moria Goblin shield and helmet, crude sword, dark green skin. x8

Haradrim Warrior: black ninjago headwrap, spear, bow, quiver. x4

Easterling: helmet, tower shield, poleaxe. x10

Nazgul: same as in Weathertop (most people still want/need to collect 9 of them) x9

And I can definitely see myself scraping up every spare penny to buy more Last Alliance, Gondorians, and Easterlings. Lego Unlicensed is about the bricks, but Lego Licensed is about the minifigures - and minifigures are the coolest way the build armies. Smaller and less goofy than action figures, bigger and easier to manage that Games Workshop stuff.

I would buy, at minimum, 10 cases of these if they were to exist.

[SirBlake]

Just take my money, take it!

Yup, that would do it.

[Deathleech]

If we never got some of those figures in any other sets but a CMF series, like the Gondor Soldier, I could EASILY see myself buying a 100 or so. That's not even that many considering some people like the two guys who did that HUGE Helm's Deep MOC had well over several hundred Uruk-hai. I think it would be a HUGE hit too. Everyones gonna want at least a few of EACH CMF for army building, unlike the current CMF where one or two max is all people want of some of the figs.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Deathleech

[BlueberryWaffles]

I talked about that in my post. Who has the action figure license for LotR (NOT the Hobbit)? Does Bridge Direct hold both since they have the Hobbit one? If so why haven't they released any LotR stuff?

I think NECA does. Not exactly sure.

[deskp]

I think NECA does. Not exactly sure.

Thign about action figure lisences, alot of times they work in scales and sizes, someone might buy the lisence to make 1/6 scale, wile other might have it for 6 inches etc.

Neca i think only got the lisence to make 1 figure, and by got i eman thats all they wanted.

[greeklad97]

Not to mention that the CMF figs seem to be made of cheaper quality than figs that come in sets! :/

[greenalfonzo]

I've bought single CMFs plenty of times, but never a case. How many in a case? 60? About 4 of each fig? I would buy 6 cases of LOTR CMF series like that listed above if they made it. Absolutely.

Fewer cases, obviously, if majority of series were non-army builders like Rosie, Innkeeper Barliman Butterbur, etc.

[JerseyManiac1]

Reading through these last pages.......we don't know for a fact they're done with LOTR right?

And why would 3 Hobbit sets come out in the summer when movie come out in December?

I'm still hopping that preliminary list from a month ago is accurate. If this ends without me having a Witch King, I might quit collecting legos altogether

[tacozftw]

Aren't 79015, 79017, and 79018 scheduled to be released in October? Wouldn't that automatically make them LOTR sets since the Hobbit TABA sets won't be released until December? Maybe TLG saw weak LOTR sales and so went back to the drawing board and has now planned to release only 3 sets instead of 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever, and also pushed back the release date? I am keeping hope until the end of 2014 at least.

Edited January 9, 2014 by tacozftw

[deskp]

Aren't 79015, 79017, and 79018 scheduled to be released in October? Wouldn't that automatically make them LOTR sets since the Hobbit TABA sets won't be released until December? Maybe TLG saw weak LOTR sales and so went back to the drawing board and has now planned to release only 3 sets instead of 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever, and also pushed back the release date? I am keeping hope until the end of 2014 at least.

The catalogue specifically says the hobbit taba, acording to people who claim to have seen it.

[Faefrost]

Aren't 79015, 79017, and 79018 scheduled to be released in October? Wouldn't that automatically make them LOTR sets since the Hobbit TABA sets won't be released until December? Maybe TLG saw weak LOTR sales and so went back to the drawing board and has now planned to release only 3 sets instead of 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever, and also pushed back the release date? I am keeping hope until the end of 2014 at least.

TABA was supposed to release in August, which is probably when these sets will be out in the US. TLG does not always shift their release dates if a movie schedule changes late in the process. As an example look at LR.

[Deathleech]

TABA was supposed to release in August, which is probably when these sets will be out in the US. TLG does not always shift their release dates if a movie schedule changes late in the process. As an example look at LR.

Which makes me wonder if Lego decided to only change the release schedule when two Hobbit movies turned into three, and after that kept everything else as planned. When the TABA release date was pushed back maybe Lego DIDN'T alter any plans around that. It would explain the Hobbit advertisement and the extremely small last two waves. Maybe they took the 2013 waves, cut them in half and added a set or two to the two resulting waves. Now we are getting the 4 TABA sets around Aug-Oct when TABA was originally to be released, and maybe we will get 4 LotR sets in the winter instead? It would make a lot of sense and explain everything that seems so weird to us atm. Maybe the 3-4 set LotR wave has some big Gondor set and a Gondor Army builder add on so Lego obviously didn't want to break them up and hence no Gondor as of yet. I mean obviously Lego wouldn't release Uruk-hai Army and Battle for Helm's Deep in two different waves, it wouldn't make sense. It seems like a decent possibility...

Edited January 9, 2014 by Deathleech

[Floundie]

TABA was supposed to release in August, which is probably when these sets will be out in the US.

I'm quite sure it was July 18th.

[Deathleech]

I'm quite sure it was July 18th.

Well regardless we don't know the official release of the TABA wave. Someone said that Hungary site is usually a few months behind so that means the wave very well could be around a July release like the movie was supposed to be and the wave release would of lined up perfectly.

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

I just realised something, LEGO ended Kingdoms prematurely for LEGO LotR. There were 16 Kingdoms sets, 12 if you don't count the the polybags or battlepacks. There are currently 15 LEGO LotR sets, 12 if you don't count the polybags. Now I'm really upset that LEGO discontinued Kingdoms for a line that lasted just as long as it did.

Legos kigdom and castle themes, will always be going on and off, its not like they are lost forever, like LOTR will be once it's done.

Sorry for not clarifying, I was referring to the specific Kingdoms subtheme that I believe had more to offer. As it stands, I own more Kingdoms sets than I do LotR. That may change though since the future of LEGO LotR is uncertain.

[Sarah]

Not to mention that the CMF figs seem to be made of cheaper quality than figs that come in sets! :/

How so? I've got some CMF figures next to a few (presumably set?) Figures (Gandalf and Frodo, Lone Ranger Gunman with Elg, bavarian Pretzel lady, Gingerbread Man, Plumber, Lady Scientist, Yeti, Bambam-girl..) They look the same to me

[Fives]

I really doubt that LEGO would release their TABA sets so early before the movie; not because they choose to change it, but because I doubt New Line or WB would allow the sets be out on shelves and be giving hints to the story. PJ and Co. has been extremely careful to not allow serious spoilers leak, especially after the switch to three films. Sure, Bridge Direct had their little slip up with their Bolg and Tauriel action figures, but not that much of the story was given away, so it wash't too bad.

However, the LEGO sets are obviously gonna be representing scenes from the film (even if we have another MEA situation, its more than just an out-of-place action figure), so I really don't think the studio would be happy if LEGO allowed their sets to get into the hands of the consumers so soon. I feel like half of what I just typed here was redundant somehow...

Anyway, if LEGO plans to release the TABA sets to coincide with the film's release (which makes a whole lot of sense), then there could be a chance that we see some LOTR stuff in the time in-between. Then again, they may just not make anymore sets. Who knows...

Another thing to consider is how the LEGO Movie sets have affected the regular pattern of releases for this year. We're in store for three or four bigger LEGO Movie sets this Feb., and I read somewhere that due to that release, the new Star Wars winter wave (which usually come out in Jan-Feb), will be pushed to a March-April release. This shift may also affect the release of the Star Wars summer wave, which could very well get pushed to Sept-Oct rather than the usual July-Aug. The LEGO Movie has kinda jumbled up a bunch of the release dates that many fans are so used to, and it may have affected how LEGO releases the upcoming Middle-Earth sets as well.

All in all, this Middle-Earth license may be the most confusing and difficult in terms of scheduling for LEGO. They've done a pretty good job to remedy the changes as best they can with what time they've had, but overall my hopes of more LOTR are slowly waning. As much as I desperately want Gondor and many other sets, at this point it just doesn't look like a reality.

Also, Darth Caedus, that LOTR CMF list is perfect. If the license allowed it, LEGO wouldn't have to worry about making army building sets, because people could just bulk up on these. But I believe that if this had been allowed in the license, LEGO would've jumped on it from the start.

[Deathleech]

I really doubt that LEGO would release their TABA sets so early before the movie; not because they choose to change it, but because I doubt New Line or WB would allow the sets be out on shelves and be giving hints to the story. PJ and Co. has been extremely careful to not allow serious spoilers leak, especially after the switch to three films. Sure, Bridge Direct had their little slip up with their Bolg and Tauriel action figures, but not that much of the story was given away, so it wash't too bad.

Ya but what is left that we haven't seen already seen in the first two films? Dain? I seriously can't think of ANY other characters from the book. We already have seen Beorn both in human and bear form, we saw Bolg and Azog, we saw Smaug, we saw Bard, we saw Sauron. There is like no one left who's design is a secret. And the sets themselves won't give away any major plot spoilers or anything either. We have already seen Erebor and the ruins of Dale so a set based on the Bo5A would literally give away NOTHING. You can't tell who lives or dies based on a set (though it might give some hints depending on the dwarf selection...).

[deskp]

Ya but what is left that we haven't seen already seen in the first two films? Dain? I seriously can't think of ANY other characters from the book. We already have seen Beorn both in human and bear form, we saw Bolg and Azog, we saw Smaug, we saw Bard, we saw Sauron. There is like no one left who's design is a secret. And the sets themselves won't give away any major plot spoilers or anything either. We have already seen Erebor and the ruins of Dale so a set based on the Bo5A would literally give away NOTHING. You can't tell who lives or dies based on a set (though it might give some hints depending on the dwarf selection...).

Yeah except for perhaps Dol guldur resolution the movie seems to be fairly laid out already.

It might be good for sales to have the sets out longer before the movie, the franchise already has a fair amount of steam from the first 2 movies. Certainly older fans might be msot excited before the movie is out.

[Darth Punk]

I really doubt that LEGO would release their TABA sets so early before the movie; not because they choose to change it, but because I doubt New Line or WB would allow the sets be out on shelves and be giving hints to the story. PJ and Co. has been extremely careful to not allow serious spoilers leak, especially after the switch to three films. Sure, Bridge Direct had their little slip up with their Bolg and Tauriel action figures, but not that much of the story was given away, so it wash't too bad.

However, the LEGO sets are obviously gonna be representing scenes from the film (even if we have another MEA situation, its more than just an out-of-place action figure), so I really don't think the studio would be happy if LEGO allowed their sets to get into the hands of the consumers so soon. I feel like half of what I just typed here was redundant somehow...

Anyway, if LEGO plans to release the TABA sets to coincide with the film's release (which makes a whole lot of sense), then there could be a chance that we see some LOTR stuff in the time in-between. Then again, they may just not make anymore sets. Who knows...

Another thing to consider is how the LEGO Movie sets have affected the regular pattern of releases for this year. We're in store for three or four bigger LEGO Movie sets this Feb., and I read somewhere that due to that release, the new Star Wars winter wave (which usually come out in Jan-Feb), will be pushed to a March-April release. This shift may also affect the release of the Star Wars summer wave, which could very well get pushed to Sept-Oct rather than the usual July-Aug. The LEGO Movie has kinda jumbled up a bunch of the release dates that many fans are so used to, and it may have affected how LEGO releases the upcoming Middle-Earth sets as well.

All in all, this Middle-Earth license may be the most confusing and difficult in terms of scheduling for LEGO. They've done a pretty good job to remedy the changes as best they can with what time they've had, but overall my hopes of more LOTR are slowly waning. As much as I desperately want Gondor and many other sets, at this point it just doesn't look like a reality.

Also, Darth Caedus, that LOTR CMF list is perfect. If the license allowed it, LEGO wouldn't have to worry about making army building sets, because people could just bulk up on these. But I believe that if this had been allowed in the license, LEGO would've jumped on it from the start.

But did the second wave sets really reveal any secrets to those who haven't seen the movie? Seems the biggest secret was Smaug which what we were hoping for set wise. Otherwise the sets themselves don't seem to reveal anything but setting. And even there not everyone agrees if they represent what was seen on screen.

[Captain Grog]

It's not like we can't just read the book (gasp! what are those things?) to find out what happens and who dies. And the trailers/ posters show what the set designs and costumes look like anyway, so what is Jackson really protecting?