BlueberryWaffles Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) If you think that the Hobbit films are better than LOTR films I don't know what to say. LOTR was just epic as hell for the whole 9 hour (or like 12 hour in EE which is even more epic) journey. AUJ had too much CGI, didn't have the feel of the book, and was a little dull. DOS was spectacular (except the Smaug fight dragged out forever) but now there's conflicting reports on TBOTFA. Some people didn't even like DOS either. Edited June 4, 2014 by Tolkien Quote
Blakstone Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Another gage of how well received the Hobbit is compared to The Lord of the Rings is merchandizing. Most of it dried up shortly after the first film. These films have their fans, and I am glad you enjoy them, but they are not the cultural phenomenon the LotR was. Still I am grateful since we would had never got LEGO LotR without LEGO Hobbit. Quote
atreyu2112 Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Another gage of how well received the Hobbit is compared to The Lord of the Rings is merchandizing. Most of it dried up shortly after the first film. These films have their fans, and I am glad you enjoy them, but they are not the cultural phenomenon the LotR was. Still I am grateful since we would had never got LEGO LotR without LEGO Hobbit. Yup. Nailed it right here. Quote
Lynx Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 I stopped comparing the Hobbit films to the Lord of the Rings after its first instalment. I've been looking forward to An Unexpected Journey more than to anything in the past years, but the film is clearly inferior to LotR in nearly all aspects. And while I liked the second part better, the CGI overload ruined it for me. The best anecdotal hint at the difference between LotR and Hobbit I can give: when watching LotR with a non-Middle-earth fan for the first time, they are in awe. When watching the Hobbit, I feel embarrassed on multiple occasions. Quote
bachamn Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 The best anecdotal hint at the difference between LotR and Hobbit I can give: when watching LotR with a non-Middle-earth fan for the first time, they are in awe. When watching the Hobbit, I feel embarrassed on multiple occasions. That's a great point. I think the most "embarassing" moment I can recall from the LotR trilogy is the, "Meriadoc Brandybuck, and Peregrin Took...I might have known!" introduction. Makes me cringe every time ;) Also aware that I've steered this conversation was off topic (not that there's anything to discuss at the moment...) Quote
BlueberryWaffles Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Ehh...it's Legos fault for not giving us any news. We're fine. Quote
Darth Punk Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 PJ has stretched the Hobbit so much over three movies a dragon could fly through its holes. Quote
Darth Malgus Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Possibly why we may have missed a Lotr wave late last year with the inclusion of a third film. Quote
nymmerod Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I am starting to think there was never any plans beyond the first two LOTR waves. Purely speculation, but I think since there were originally only 2 Hobbit films planned, they planned 2 LOTR waves to keep interest going before each film. The question becomes: Did TLG plan a 3rd LOTR wave from the outset and it has been delayed by a 3rd Hobbit film originally planned for summer? Or did they perhaps never have plans beyond wave 2, to see what sales were like? In either case, I will shed real human tears if we never get any more LOTR Lego sets. Quote
BlueberryWaffles Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I still think that originally they had 2 big waves for LOTR and Hobbit. We got both big wave 1s. I think they split the second waves in two. The other half of last year's Hobbit wave is this year's wave. Unfortunately I think the second half of the second LOTR wave may have been dropped. Quote
Robert_88 Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I agree. It is very unlikely that they didn't plan to give us more LotR sets. This is pretty obvious because we didn't get anything from Gondor yet. Or maybe I just don't want to beleive that we got sets like Orc Forge but nothing like Witch King Showdown. At the moment I wouldn't be surprised if they will give us more sets but I also wouldn't be surprised if they don't. I guess they already decided what to do with this theme so there is nothing left to do but waiting for the winter wave reatiler catalogue and writing e-mails to TLG and asking them for information about LotR to show that we still want more sets. Quote
Blakstone Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I think they were planning three waves of Lord of the Rings. Probably one before the first Hobbit wave, one between to the two Hobbit waves, and one after the final Hobbit wave. Lord of the Rings was a very popular item for AFOLs to MOC ever since that trilogy came out. It would seem to be the perfect franchise to carry for a slightly target audience. LEGO does not release their sales figures. They firm indication would be if they say a line performs above expectations in their yearly shareholders' report. However, neither the Lord of the Rings nor the Hobbit were ever mentioned that way. I think if LEGO only planned on two waves of LotR, we would have received Gondor in the second wave. Quote
atreyu2112 Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 What leads me to believe a 3rd wave is/was imminent was the inclusion of the generic no-name ent with Orthanc. TLG knows how iconic Treebeard is. Heck, he has 2 levels of the game dedicated to him alone. If Orthanc was to be the end of the LotR theme, Treebeard would have been included in that set. Otherwise, it makes absolutely no sense what so ever to spend the time & money designing the 2nd ent. We all knew for sure at that point that a Treebeard set is/was ready for release. I agree. It is very unlikely that they didn't plan to give us more LotR sets. This is pretty obvious because we didn't get anything from Gondor yet. ... there is nothing left to do but waiting for the winter wave reatiler catalogue and writing e-mails to TLG and asking them for information about LotR to show that we still want more sets. Yes, indeed. Keep emailing them, calling them, post to their Facebook wall - keep asking for info on more LotR & say you want more LotR! Quote
Dr.Cogg Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 I think you guys are right about the 3rd wave, because of those prelim lego pictures we saw in the past of the Balrog,Tree Beard,Orthanc and a few other sets. Quote
Robert_88 Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Yes, indeed. Keep emailing them, calling them, post to their Facebook wall - keep asking for info on more LotR & say you want more LotR! If you get one of these half-automatic responses answer them again. I did this and they said they will forward my email to the responsible departments. Don't know if this is true but it sounds nice. Edit: You're right. Calling him Treebeard would have been absolutely plausible. Edited June 6, 2014 by Robert_88 Quote
Master_Data Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) I think they were planning three waves of Lord of the Rings. Probably one before the first Hobbit wave, one between to the two Hobbit waves, and one after the final Hobbit wave. It was already confirmed for the most part from the LEGO Minifigure Year by Year book. I can't post a picture now, but look at page 245 in the general description of the LotR line-up for the year. To quote: The adventure was set to continue with new releases later in the year. Our problem is that we never saw those releases and have no idea if we will see them due to the mess PJ has created with the merchandising. I think you guys are right about the 3rd wave, because of those prelim lego pictures we saw in the past of the Balrog,Tree Beard,Orthanc and a few other sets. What prelims? Edited June 6, 2014 by Master_Data Quote
Darth Caedus Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 He's talking about the shot of the Lego Master Builder room with those sets visible. Years-old news. Quote
LegoThomas Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) The balrog is the one down to the left, right? I think the "set" above seems to be a lothlorien treehouse. Never knew something like that exists. Edited June 7, 2014 by LegoThomas Quote
Cyanide Kualus Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 Yeah, there's probably the Balrog to the left, and he partly consists of hero factory pieces, is'nt he? Quote
Faefrost Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 You can also see one of the trees from the same Lothlorien set that shows up in the LotR video game right above it. Quote
SMC Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 I really want any sets they have even if they make them all d2c sets and I have to get them at full price. Lego we want more Quote
Master_Data Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 As much as I want all of these sets to be a reality, I am not sure how many of these are actual sets which they will put into production. For example, look at Star Wars. We have seen pictures of a UCS Watto in one of these cases. There is no way they are releasing that. Some of these are just the designers own models and possible set ideas, not necessarily actual sets. I really hope these are actual sets. What is the one at the top left? I can spot what looks like Shelob, Lothlorien, Treebeard, Gandalf Arrives, Orthanc, Helms Deep, Bag End(?), a Bag End prototype, and a few unidentifiable grey shapes. What are they? I hope we get these as sets! Quote
AmazingPharaoh Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Isn't this supposed to be in the liscenced theme forums instead of here? Quote
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