Lost_In_Noise Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 @ backbone: Let me ask you this question -- does your real-life vehicle still have the ORIGINAL tires on it? If not, is there a different brand of tires now than what was provided as the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) tires? I bet that most people have different (better?) tires on their vehicles after a few years. Yet, their vehicle is STILL a VW, Audi, Ford, or whatever. So, what's the difference between doing that (in real life) and doing something similar with a Lego model? As z3_2drive mentioned, Lego tires DO SUCK at rock crawling -- he's proven it and so have lots of other people. Why settle for inferior tires in real life or in a model? This (is a very good point) Quote
Morj Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 @ backbone: Let me ask you this question -- does your real-life vehicle still have the ORIGINAL tires on it? If not, is there a different brand of tires now than what was provided as the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) tires? I bet that most people have different (better?) tires on their vehicles after a few years. Yet, their vehicle is STILL a VW, Audi, Ford, or whatever. So, what's the difference between doing that (in real life) and doing something similar with a Lego model? As z3_2drive mentioned, Lego tires DO SUCK at rock crawling -- he's proven it and so have lots of other people. Why settle for inferior tires in real life or in a model? I can even duct tape or glue my bumper and it still be a Ford. But with legos it's considered bad to glue parts together. Or am I missing something? Quote
1974 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Yes, rather ridiculous comparisoon there, Dluders. Akin to something like thirdparty boobs on the missus I'm not sure it's a good idea that TLG made those IR parts. LEGO is never gonna compete with proper RC cars. Some folks have made rather speedy cars/badass rockcrawlers. But I do wonder what the LEGO parts look like after some moderate use I have a 20 year old Tamiya buggy that _really_ have seen some action. It's still in pretty good shape today LEGO is not made for that. At all That's why the real LEGO RC cars are not made of bricks/beams Quote
750ACE Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I can even duct tape or glue my bumper and it still be a Ford. But with legos it's considered bad to glue parts together. Or am I missing something? Metal hvac tape gives you about 10hp, lol. Add a vtech sticker for 5 more hp. Quote
midengineaddict Posted January 29, 2013 Author Posted January 29, 2013 I know that an RC crawler gives more performance for less money than a Lego one but my hobby is to build something and not to drive it. What I love to do with Lego is to build something, test drive it and then imagine what I can do to upgrade it. And finally destroy it and do something else. Lego is about creativity and RC is about driving and performance, it's 2 different hobbies. (just my opinion) Quote
midengineaddict Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 I finally had the time to finish my crawler, here some pics, video still to come. This MOC drive and steer very well. Quote
DLuders Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 @ midengineaddict: Nice crawler! I'm wondering how you are able to run the Power Functions L-Motors on (what I think are) Version 1 PF Receivers? I don't see any "V2" lettering on your second-to-last image above. Quote
midengineaddict Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Lego rock crawler 4x4 truck 4 wheels steer @ midengineaddict: Nice crawler! I'm wondering how you are able to run the Power Functions L-Motors on (what I think are) Version 1 PF Receivers? I don't see any "V2" lettering on your second-to-last image above. I just have 2 L motors or 2 servos by receiver... I think you need V2 just if you plug more than 2 motor in each receiver like 9398 (2L + 1 servo) by the way, this Lego crawler is very fun to drive and is powerfull, if it can be better with V2, I will buy some V2 Edited February 2, 2013 by midengineaddict Quote
midengineaddict Posted February 3, 2013 Author Posted February 3, 2013 not yet, I don't have a lot of spare time for now but maybe next wheek (I got to practice and make a good trial course) Quote
midengineaddict Posted February 3, 2013 Author Posted February 3, 2013 Do you have video of the performance? It's maybe not big "performance" but for a Lego truck, it's running good. Quote
750ACE Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 It's maybe not big "performance" but for a Lego truck, it's running good. I wanted to see how it runs compared to effermans Mercedes G. Quote
MRP_ Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Did you buy the peices individually, or did you just buy 2 crawlers? Or do you just have a large collection? It just seems like it's made of lots of peices that would come in the crawler... Quote
PunkTacoNYC Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Lego axles are not perfect, then we have to use metal ones. A closed-minded like me understand the points of view but does not attempt to justify or defend my own as best. If I want to do a real good crawler Lego is not the answer, if you want to build the best Lego crawler and overcome the shortcomings that have and we all suffer equaly, Non-Lego parts are useless, just those performance deficiencies and faults are what make us think more and more, so I like to build with only Lego. This^^ Although I do use third party tires and SBricks and all, I do agree that Legos will never create the best-performing crawlers and that trying to make the best crawler possible entirely out of Lego is a respectable challenge. Also, the new Xerion tires look pretty darn good - possibly even comparable in performance to third party tires - but who knows what those tires will be like? I certainly don't! ANYWAY I think your crawler is great, midengineadict. The flex is awesome and I feel that it can be improved if you do not use the ball joint, 6L link setup. I do, however, think it is good how it is. Quote
nerdsforprez Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Did you buy the peices individually, or did you just buy 2 crawlers? Or do you just have a large collection? It just seems like it's made of lots of peices that would come in the crawler... asking a question to a greater than three year old response is not likely to get a response.... Quote
Konsta90 Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 RC Crawlers/buggies are better at performance but ugly and cheap looking. And the fun factor is much less then constructing and decorating lego crawler or buggy or trial truck.But Lego is made for indoor use and not for climbing rocks and mud ... I respect my lego and my wallet and drive my models indoor and create trial routes out of boxes, books,lego built structures and so on. I prefer to buy 3d party tires If I am going to use the model outdoor - just to protect my original lego tires from amortization. Quote
TheNextLegoDesinger Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 RC Crawlers/buggies are better at performance but ugly and cheap looking. And the fun factor is much less then constructing and decorating lego crawler or buggy or trial truck.But Lego is made for indoor use and not for climbing rocks and mud ... I respect my lego and my wallet and drive my models indoor and create trial routes out of boxes, books,lego built structures and so on. I prefer to buy 3d party tires If I am going to use the model outdoor - just to protect my original lego tires from amortization. i dont, once i drove trough a creek, look at this DSC_0015_2 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr DSC_0017_2 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr DSC_0016_2 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr Quote
JJ2 Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) i dont, once i drove trough a creek, look at this DSC_0015_2 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr DSC_0017_2 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr DSC_0016_2 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr What's wrong with you! JK! How did the parts fare? Also I think that battery box was submerged and that is really bad. Edited May 23, 2016 by JJ2 Quote
TheNextLegoDesinger Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 i know pretty damm deep.i had no problems. But for security of my parts, after the fun i putted them into some rice DSC_0022_1 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr DSC_0023_1 by thenextlegodesinger, on Flickr Quote
nerdsforprez Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) i know pretty damm deep.i had no problems. But for security of my parts, after the fun i putted them into some rice Yikes.... if you truly had no problems.... you should market for TLG. They would be interested to know that they unintentionally produce water proof motors :laugh: Edited May 24, 2016 by nerdsforprez Quote
braker23 Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 i know pretty damm deep.i had no problems. But for security of my parts, after the fun i putted them into some rice Wow, this was very courageous of you! I am really surprised you had no problems and yes, I heard about the rice idea, so glad it works :) Quote
MRP_ Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 asking a question to a greater than three year old response is not likely to get a response.... Well at least I tried. And in the process brought this old thread back from the dead, and it's once again being discussed constructively. So wether or not I got a response I'm happy. Quote
TheNextLegoDesinger Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Yikes.... if you truly had no problems.... you should market for TLG. They would be interested to know that they unintentionally produce water proof motors :laugh: they aren't waterproof, i had a servo that broke down once, after a year, when i did this i tried it to and the servo works 99% fine there comes water inside but the motors( M/L/XL) have no problem with it (i noticed it when i opened one of them and there was dirt inside it) Edited May 24, 2016 by TheNextLegoDesinger Quote
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