Norrington Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Well, I was wondering who you all consider to be the hero's for lego pirates? I all ways thought it was the imperials, and acording to This comercial, the Imperial's are the 'good guys' per say, but the pirates are evil, where in the pirate comic, the pirates were the heros, and the imperials are evil. What do you think? Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 29, 2007 Governor Posted January 29, 2007 First of all Mr Norrington I have excellent news regarding improving the visible of links. Check out the Improving Link Tutorial! Now onto the thread... I don't recall the Pirate Comic making the Pirates out to be the heros... Governor Broadside was more arrogant and aggressive than in other storylines but I don't see as he or the Imperial Guards being Evil in that story. Within the first few pages the Pirates are attacking one of the Governors ships, so how does that make the Pirates heros? Quote
Norrington Posted January 29, 2007 Author Posted January 29, 2007 First of all Mr Norrington I have excellent news regarding improving the visible of links. Check out the Improving Link Tutorial!Now onto the thread... I don't recall the Pirate Comic making the Pirates out to be the heros... Governor Broadside was more arrogant and aggressive than in other storylines but I don't see as he or the Imperial Guards being Evil in that story. Within the first few pages the Pirates are attacking one of the Governors ships, so how does that make the Pirates heros? Because the story centers around them, as most stories surround heros and those who were considered 'evil' are only brought up, like in potc, when a main or,good, charachter is with them, I.E. Elizabeth and the crew of the Black Pearl Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 29, 2007 Governor Posted January 29, 2007 You'd do well to take some lessons in writing stories Mr Norrington. Just because a story centres around a certain character doesn't automatically make that character a hero or "good" as such. Quote
Norro Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 As a child I was always annoyed by the way lego betrayed the pirates as the 'good guys'. Look at any lego magazine scene, the pirates are always winning. Also the pirate comic leaves the pirates in a much better light than the soldiers... God Bless, Nathan Quote
Norrington Posted January 29, 2007 Author Posted January 29, 2007 As a child I was always annoyed by the way lego betrayed the pirates as the 'good guys'. Look at any lego magazine scene, the pirates are always winning. Also the pirate comic leaves the pirates in a much better light than the soldiers... God Bless, Nathan Indeed. The Imperial forces, due to their neglect in power during the "System years", Have taken control of all my legos, as the dominant power of my layout. Those dirty Pirates, lead by Captain "Dirtbag" Redbeard, ( :-P yes, that's his nickname... :-P ) have been getting the harsh deal, with absolutley no ships, muskets, or RUM, (OMG, not the rum!), have been utterly defeated and are currently hiding out in the bins, covering them selves with 10lbs. of bricks for protection from imperial mortar attacks. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 As a child I was always annoyed by the way lego betrayed the pirates as the 'good guys'. Look at any lego magazine scene, the pirates are always winning. Also the pirate comic leaves the pirates in a much better light than the soldiers... LEGO magazine? I haven't seen these magazines but as for the catalogues... It doesn't appear Captain Roger is in a winning situation in that particular cataolgue. Although for the most part the catalogues don't depict either faction as being the "good guys." Well from my perspective at least. Quote
Norrington Posted January 30, 2007 Author Posted January 30, 2007 Red beard does have an advntage there, ITP is out gunned by the ses, and pirates are invading and outnumbering the gaurds, chasing their officer in fact, i know you're saying "there are only 2 pirates" wrong! there are 2 more, just cut off in the photo, i have this catolouge. What i'm saying is that the Imperials get a raw deal, look at the Pirae Comic! Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 Well if the pirates are winning doesn't that make them evil for attacking and invading the Imperial Guards? Historically weren't the Imperial Guards put in place to keep the evil pirates in line? Quote
oo7 Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Maybe Lego wanted to make the conflict(s) seem realistic. Maybe they purposely did not define the thin boundary behind the "good" and the "evil". This seems not only like a logical explanation, but favorable explanation. It's really one's opinion to perceive the "good" versus "evil" of certain people, but even then the most moral would not intentively judge and label. This topic is so silly. Quote
Norrington Posted January 30, 2007 Author Posted January 30, 2007 This topic is so silly. Your Silly! also, the pirates wouldn't be really evil for trying to rescue Captain "Dirtbag" Phil Redbeard would they? Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 Maybe Lego wanted to make the conflict(s) seem realistic. Maybe they purposely did not define the thin boundary behind the "good" and the "evil". This seems not only like a logical explanation, but favorable explanation. It's really one's opinion to perceive the "good" versus "evil" of certain people, but even then the most moral would not intentively judge and label. Mr 007 I think you've provided a better summation of what I was trying to communicate a couple posts ago. This topic is so silly. I don't think the topic is silly, but perhaps the arguement is. Quote
oo7 Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Your Silly! I'm sorry, as to my recalection I have never obtained possesion of any object known as "Silly". Mr 007 I think you've provided a better summation of what I was trying to communicate a couple posts ago. Please excuse my crude and obtuse randomness, but I believe that is the first time you have reffered to me as '007'. Usually it's 'Oo7'. Curious. I don't think the topic is silly, but perhaps the arguement is. Yeah, the topic of the topic, the argument of the thread, same difference. ;-) Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 Please excuse my crude and obtuse randomness, but I believe that is the first time you have reffered to me as '007'. Usually it's 'Oo7'. Curious. This isn't the first time I've gone to write "007" but I usually correct myself before posting, it appears this one slipped through the editorial net. Yeah, the topic of the topic, the argument of the thread, same difference. ;-) I was specifically referring to Norrington's original arguement that the Pirates were the heros because the comic storyline "centres" around them. However, the entire thread isn't based on that arguement because Norro contributed a different perspective with his belief that the LEGO magazines also depicted the pirates as "heroic". Quote
ghoulrealm Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 I think it's more a matter of protagonist vs. antagonist. The protangonist (or lead character) is not nessessarraly of good moral standing, but from their point of view, they may be within their rights. The same may hold true for the antagonist. I would hope that the inconsistancies in the stories are meant as an inspiration to induce your imagination, not to remain static to any viewpoint. Quote
Col. Whipstick Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Lemme me simply start off by saying... Pirates good? Poppycock! What servile peasant should dare suggest that a mob of poxy-faced, intoxicated, foul-mouthed, uncivilized godless heathen mercenaries could ever be deemed the good guys when compared to the gentlemen in the redcoats or for that matter the bluecoats at a stretch... I warn you all that I must report any gesture of pirate sympathies to His Majesty's Royal Navy and I shall personally be sitting there with a bowl of popcorn at the gallows when we watch your treasonous bodies take the long swift drop! :-P I'd sooner collaborate with the French than side with the forces of scumbucket villany and that's saying something! Now back to reality... In the catalogues I have, again not sure if they are British or South African (if indeed the later actually exists) there isn't a very clear distinction of who is good or bad but I'd argue against suggesting there never is... many parts to the ol' catalogues are biased in one form or another. The forestmen were always presented as the nice guys compared to the King's men, the space themes always made one bunch holier than thou over another... The Pirate theme always seemed a little more neutral in presentation. Quote
Norro Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Norro contributed a different perspective with his belief that the LEGO magazines also depicted the pirates as "heroic". I didn't say 'heroic' just that they are always shown in a winning position (even in that magazine if you have both sides of the page). Though the comic comes close to a 'heroic' view: Note the second frame on this page of the comic. God Bless, Nathan Quote
Norrington Posted January 30, 2007 Author Posted January 30, 2007 Lemme me simply start off by saying... Pirates good? Poppycock! What servile peasant should dare suggest that a mob of poxy-faced, intoxicated, foul-mouthed, uncivilized godless heathen mercenaries could ever be deemed the good guys when compared to the gentlemen in the redcoats or for that matter the bluecoats at a stretch...I warn you all that I must report any gesture of pirate sympathies to His Majesty's Royal Navy and I shall personally be sitting there with a bowl of popcorn at the gallows when we watch your treasonous bodies take the long swift drop! :-P I'd sooner collaborate with the French than side with the forces of scumbucket villany and that's saying something! Now back to reality... In the catalogues I have, again not sure if they are British or South African (if indeed the later actually exists) there isn't a very clear distinction of who is good or bad but I'd argue against suggesting there never is... many parts to the ol' catalogues are biased in one form or another. The forestmen were always presented as the nice guys compared to the King's men, the space themes always made one bunch holier than thou over another... The Pirate theme always seemed a little more neutral in presentation. You're calling me, Commodore in the Knig's Navy, Treasonous? I make a living killing them! For Fun Even! I didn't say 'heroic' just that they are always shown in a winning position (even in that magazine if you have both sides of the page). Though the comic comes close to a 'heroic' view:Note the second frame on this page of the comic. God Bless, Nathan Indeed. Someone who understands the point i was trying to get across. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 I didn't say 'heroic' just that they are always shown in a winning position (even in that magazine if you have both sides of the page). Though the comic comes close to a 'heroic' view:Note the second frame on this page of the comic. And Note the first frame on this page of the comic that there's a pirate about to attack a small girl... Quote
Norrington Posted January 30, 2007 Author Posted January 30, 2007 So? I'd bet good money that you'd attack a small girl if she was carrying a bag containing misb Pirate Lego... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 And just how much would you bet Norrington? Your lack of character judgment needs improving just like your story writing skills :-D Quote
Norrington Posted January 30, 2007 Author Posted January 30, 2007 And just how much would you bet Norrington? Your lack of character judgment needs improving just like your story writing skills :-D But she was carrying 1 copy of every set made in the pirate line... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 Then she would have to be a very BIG little girl to be able to so. I'd like to see a little carry just ONE Skulls Eye Schooner box let alone a copy of each different Pirate set. Besides, in the comic the girl (Camilla) is unarmed and possesses nothing of value, aside from the fact she's Governor Broadside's niece and taking a small child prisoner or harming them in the fact or relative is a very despicable act. Quote
Norrington Posted January 30, 2007 Author Posted January 30, 2007 The Girl Carrying all of them was an example. Anyways, you're saying you would attack a girl for legos? Also, camila has something of value, Pearls. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted January 30, 2007 Governor Posted January 30, 2007 The girl carrying every single Pirate LEGO set is not a very realistic example. Physically it would be impossible and it would be almost near impossible for a small child to possess each sets. And no, I never said I'd attack a girl for LEGO. You have a very overactive imagination Mr Norrington and it seems you jump to conclusions based on your own assumption rather than the evidence that is already there. PS... Proper Use of the LEGO Trademark on a Web Site from LEGO.com If the LEGO trademark is used at all, it should always be used as an adjective, not as a noun. For example, say "MODELS BUILT OF LEGO BRICKS". Never say "MODELS BUILT OF LEGOs". Also, the trademark should appear in the same typeface as the surrounding text and should not be isolated or set apart from the surrounding text. In other words, the trademarks should not be emphasized or highlighted. Finally, the LEGO trademark should always appear with a Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.