Hero Factory 2013

[Shakar]

I don't think you can really top Stormer XL, but Surge looks to be in fine form. Evo looks good too, but I liked the essence of the breakout set better.

Surge is definitely his best iteration, but I like Evo and Stormer's Breakout forms better.

I'm undecided on Stormer and Evo TBH. Breakout Evo is cool, but his colours, helmet and weapon are kind of bland: I like BA Evo's colours more, the ugly red Zamor/tr. orange head have been dropped in favor of the awesome tr. light blue and the visor makes the helmet more interesting. Stormer XL is awesome but again, Stormer's classic helmet is one of the most bland looking ones and the beautiful printed visor fixes that. Also, I like BA Stormer's weapons and tr. light blue shells.

One thing Breakout Heroes definitely have over the BA ones are the torsos, the printed chests gave a lot of character (kinda like minifigs) the BA torsos don't have. But half of the BA Heroes have really cool helmets+visors (Surge, Stormer, Evo, Breez if it were lime) and equipment (Surge's wings and lightning launcher, Stormer's sword and wrist blade+ice thrower, Rocka's sword, Furno XL's sword and shield). That's why I want to combine the best things of the BA Heroes into the Breakout Heroes (well, except Furno XL, who is a thing on his own). Too bad Nex and Stringer are missing..

I just bought Pyrox (?) and Rocka from Brain attack and I have to say, Rocka looks pretty lame,

theirs something wrong with the way the visor sets on his head. Not a problem, I bought him for parts anyway.

Rocka is terribly bland: too much titanium metallic, boring shield and a helmet inferior to the Breakout version (without the visor). I used the sword and the 4M shells to update my Breakout Rocka, I'll use the rest of the parts for other stuff. Still not sure on how to use his helmet+visor though.

It seems the new fire/lightning/ice piece is transparent on Stormer. That, or it has some pretty awesome blending. Looks great on Surge, too.

Kalhiki

Surge's lightning is definitely transparent. Stormer's ice seems solid though, at least the white: the light blue might be translucent like Rocka's sword.

[Takanuinuva]

I'm working on mocs of Brain attack Nex and Stringer. Nex is a large set and Stringer is a small set. Nex's design is loosely based around Gordon Freeman of Half Life 2. And Stringer is based around his breakout version.

They each get a villian. Nex's villian is loosely based around a head crab zombie from Half Life 2 and Stringers villian is a bat like creature that used sonic screams. Nex's Villian is a large set and Stringers villian is a small set.

All these mocs are design to be like how lego would have made them. I plan on customizing Breakout Nex's helm and Stringer helm to fit a Brain Attack Visor. The Visors won't be modified.

On a different note I'll be getting these Brain Attack wave 2 sets

Stormer

Frost Beast

Surge

Aquagon

[Bigger Fish]

I'm working on mocs of Brain attack Nex and Stringer. Nex is a large set and Stringer is a small set. Nex's design is loosely based around Gordon Freeman of Half Life 2. And Stringer is based around his breakout version.

They each get a villian. Nex's villian is loosely based around a head crab zombie from Half Life 2 and Stringers villian is a bat like creature that used sonic screams. Nex's Villian is a large set and Stringers villian is a small set.

All these mocs are design to be like how lego would have made them. I plan on customizing Breakout Nex's helm and Stringer helm to fit a Brain Attack Visor. The Visors won't be modified.

On a different note I'll be getting these Brain Attack wave 2 sets

Stormer

Frost Beast

Surge

Aquagon

Will Nex be able to live up to his family name and face FULL LIFE CONSEQUENCES?

[Darking]

I'm working on mocs of Brain attack Nex and Stringer. Nex is a large set and Stringer is a small set. Nex's design is loosely based around Gordon Freeman of Half Life 2. And Stringer is based around his breakout version.

They each get a villian. Nex's villian is loosely based around a head crab zombie from Half Life 2 and Stringers villian is a bat like creature that used sonic screams. Nex's Villian is a large set and Stringers villian is a small set.

All these mocs are design to be like how lego would have made them. I plan on customizing Breakout Nex's helm and Stringer helm to fit a Brain Attack Visor. The Visors won't be modified.

On a different note I'll be getting these Brain Attack wave 2 sets

Stormer

Frost Beast

Surge

Aquagon

What I like about this is that I've been also thinking of how Nex, Stringer and their respective villains would look in BA, and my concept of Stringer's villain is exactly the same as yours xDD

However, about Nex's one, I was thinking more of a mechanic-like creature, to fit his tech theme.

[Takanuinuva]

Here I'll give an Ldd of how I will build them. Nex is missing his helm, Stringer is missing his helm and the speaker piece for his guitar. Nex's villian needs Phantoka Pohatu's mask. Stringer's villian need Chirox's mask and Mutran's wings. The chest fur is going to be the new one from Ultrabuild Gorzan. The trans blue armor on both stringer and his villain is supposed to be trans dark blue.

http://www.brickshel...nd_stringer.lxf

Once I get the pieces I need I will post real life pics of them.

Edited March 31, 2013 by Takanuinuva

[dviddy]

I think the BA Evo is the definitive version of the character, much like the Breakout Breez was for her character. Breakout Evo is so boring. This set looks delightful!

[toatyger]

I want to get frostbeast, as he has a big head in white that will look great on top of stormer XL's chest plate. (In other words, revamp time!)

[CabooseBM]

The Simpsons would've been a far better example than Family Guy, considering the dire state that show is in nowadays.

Or, alternatively, The Big Bang Theory, as that has always been utter trash.

The point is that good writing transcends age boundaries and one shouldn't use the target audience as an excuse for poor writing.

[Dorek]

I think the BA Evo is the definitive version of the character, much like the Breakout Breez was for her character. Breakout Evo is so boring. This set looks delightful!

Meh, I find Breakout Evo to be more in line with previous incarnations; this is the first melee weapon he's had, and the underwater theme is somewhat random, as opposed to the hilarious juxtaposition of Furno.

BA Evo definitely has a rocking design, but it doesn't entirely gel with the character.

The point is that good writing transcends age boundaries and one shouldn't use the target audience as an excuse for poor writing.

That's silly. Good is subjective, as with most things. Obviously your opinion on the writing is that it is bad; that's a fine opinion to have, and one I am not inclined to disagree with, necessarily. I too think the writing could be cranked up a bit, but then again, I am not who they are writing for. I don't enjoy Dora the Explorer, but the kindergartners that my sister teaches freaking love the stuff. Does that mean the writers of Dora are cranking out "bad" things? Of course not. It's just not as enjoyable to us because we think differently than they do.

That isn't to say there CAN'T be writing that appeals to both sides; my sister also had her kids watch The Aristocats, which is a hilarious movie, and is accessible to everyone on some level. There's a niche for everything, and to pigeonhole something that is so incredibly subjective just defeats the real point.

[Zachattacx]

"BA Evo definitely has a rocking design, but it doesn't entirely gel with the character."

True.I always thought of Evo having a gun,2.0,4.0.The spear is just awkward IMO.

Surge is the best incarnation of himself.

Stormer looks better in that pose.So IMO Surge takes the win for best BA designed hero.

[MakutaNocturn]

Here I'll give an Ldd of how I will build them. Nex is missing his helm, Stringer is missing his helm and the speaker piece for his guitar. Nex's villian needs Phantoka Pohatu's mask. Stringer's villian need Chirox's mask and Mutran's wings. The chest fur is going to be the new one from Ultrabuild Gorzan. The trans blue armor on both stringer and his villain is supposed to be trans dark blue.

http://www.brickshel...nd_stringer.lxf

Once I get the pieces I need I will post real life pics of them.

It's overally good, nothing special but Stringer's weapon looks dramatically You should improve it.

BTW: I believe that Furno XL and Surge are the best sets from that year All these brain-attacked-animals need revamps.

[DraikNova]

All these brain-attacked-animals need revamps.

Except Dragon Bolt. Set-wise it's the second-most complex HF build LEGO's made, and the most complex one (Witch Doctor) has problem's of it's own.

[MakutaNocturn]

I think especially Dragon Bolt needs a revamp My blue dragon from Lego Vikings with Fenrakk head looks better xD

Edit:

http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/7021-1.jpg

Most annoying set ever :D

Edited March 31, 2013 by MakutaNocturn

[xxlrocka]

Except Dragon Bolt. Set-wise it's the second-most complex HF build LEGO's made, and the most complex one (Witch Doctor) has problem's of it's own.

*Cough* Exposed red button and Technic bits *Cough*

The Technic thingy is actually part of Witch Doctor's problems, just so you know.

[Omicron Squad Leader]

The point is that good writing transcends age boundaries and one shouldn't use the target audience as an excuse for poor writing.

Obviously; I was trying to improve your examples based on the general consensus.

Still, I hope you're not one of those foolish people who believe that good/bad writing can be objective.

Edited March 31, 2013 by Omicron Squad Leader

[DraikNova]

The Technic thingy is actually part of Witch Doctor's problems, just so you know.

That was kind of what I was pointing out. And that exposed button is more-or-less what LEGO wanted so it's obvious where to press.

[ToaJaller78]

I finished the Brain Attack special on TV and parts were cut for the TV adaption. Also, It airs on Nick (The world's worst TV channel) On 7th April.

[Gatanui]

I finished the Brain Attack special on TV and parts were cut for the TV adaption. Also, It airs on Nick (The world's worst TV channel) On 7th April.

Really? I've watched the German version on TV and it's identical to the one on the website. Unless you are referring to partly cut transformation scenes, which I think were only shown complete as seperate online clips.

-Gata

[DraikNova]

Maybe the channel he watched it on did cut out scenes, although that would be the fault of that particular channel.

[Aanchir]

*Cough* Exposed red button and Technic bits *Cough*

The Technic thingy is actually part of Witch Doctor's problems, just so you know.

I don't think either of those "problems" really detracts from Dragon Bolt at all. The red button stands out, but could easily be interpreted as a Legend-of-Zelda-style weak point that you have to hit for massive damage. Meanwhile, I don't have a problem with exposed Technic when it's used tastefully, which on Dragon Bolt I feel it is. Rather than replacing the HF building system, it's supplementing it, providing a level of functionality that would be awkward if his wings were based solely on the HF building system. Just as with Bruizer's arm-swinging function, it's important to Dragon Bolt's function that his wings stay more or less rigid as they flap, and I don't see how covering up the Technic elements would drastically improve the model.

[xxlrocka]

... I think Aanchir killed this topic.

Anyway, so I think I've chosen what sets I'm getting. But I want other's opinions on them so I know I'm getting the right thing. These are the 1st wave sets I want.

Rocka

Scarox

Bruizer

Ogrum

Furno XL

So, yeah. Opinions. If nobody continues reading this topic still, then I will just get them and hope for the best. Otherwise, I will have wasted some money.

[DraikNova]

Well, Rocka is pretty simple build, but he gets you a nice visor, another Brain Attack Chestplate, plus a golden shield and the new sword mold.

Scarox is pretty much only useful if you want gold parts or his two tr. green claws/fangs.

Bruizer has some nice bley parts and the new rock armor, but the rock armor isn't that interesting a piece and he suffers from a strange back as well.

Ogrum is the best parts pack of the wave, with both brown and dark green parts. Definitely get this one.

Furno XL has lots of parts that are useful for more complex HF building, plus a sem-exclusive shield mold, the fire piece and the new sword in silver and a great tr. clear and smoke visor.

I would recommend getting Rocka, Ogrum, Furno XL, but I would also get Breez if I were you. She's got a silver sawblade, an awesome new helmet, a great visor, the brain attack chestplate in silver, some tr. green armor plus silver Ordeal of Fire (right name?) blades.

[Aanchir]

So I have mostly finished reverse-engineering Christoffer Raundahl's amazing Hero Factory titan MOC that was displayed at LEGO World. The Flickr page includes a description, error list, and link to the LXF file:

Hero Factory MOC by Christoffer Raundahl by Aanchir, on Flickr

I'd love if we could get an actual set like this... granted, not exactly like this, since this uses some illegal connections, but most of those could be easily corrected with just a handful of additional pieces. I estimate a total piece count of 225 pieces (perhaps closer to 240 with illegal connections corrected) and, based on Pick-A-Brick part costs (which, at least in the case of smaller sets, are about twice what the total price for those same parts would be in a non-custom-order set), a price of $50–60. Of course, my estimate may be off significantly: Witch Doctor, who was similar in size to this figure but perhaps a bit taller and naturally far more skeletal, was just $30, and he had over 100 pieces more (even though to be fair many were small, detail elements whereas this MOC uses lots of bulky shells).

[Kalhiki]

@xxlrocka: I guess it depends on what you're looking for. DraikNova pretty much sums up the parts value, but if you're getting them for the collection or because of appearances (like I do), then I'd say replace Bruizer with either Breez or Pyrox. Though, not many people seem to like Pyrox, so then definitely Breez.

@Aanchir: Funny how I was just thinking about getting my bucket of parts out to try and make something huge using that model as inspiration. Good to see that some people haven't forgotten about it. Overall your recreation looks great. The only issue I see are the upper arms, but I suppose that includes an 'illegal connection' that you mentioned.

Kalhiki

[Aanchir]

@xxlrocka: I guess it depends on what you're looking for. DraikNova pretty much sums up the parts value, but if you're getting them for the collection or because of appearances (like I do), then I'd say replace Bruizer with either Breez or Pyrox. Though, not many people seem to like Pyrox, so then definitely Breez.

@Aanchir: Funny how I was just thinking about getting my bucket of parts out to try and make something huge using that model as inspiration. Good to see that some people haven't forgotten about it. Overall your recreation looks great. The only issue I see are the upper arms, but I suppose that includes an 'illegal connection' that you mentioned.

Kalhiki

Yep, you can even see here that the Technic connectors on the backs of the arms aren't fully pressed onto the 3M Technic friction pins. Again, this is a problem that could be fixed without too much hassle: just swap the 3M Technic friction pins with some 4M axles with end stop and a handful of 3M half-beams and everything should come together without parts being in compression. Overall, I wonder if the designer was challenging himself not to use any Technic axles in this model (there are hardly any Technic parts besides pins, beams, half-beams, and of course the helicopter rotors).

In general, the upper arms would probably be one factor I'd rather see changed greatly if this became a set. They're nice and bulky, but unlike the legs, their range of movement is terribly limited. With enough experimentation I'm sure TLG's designers could arrive at a way for the arms to be more posable without sacrificing the model's bulky aesthetic.

Edited April 7, 2013 by Aanchir