The HMS Unclaimable, version 1 finished

[El Bucanero]

Good to hear, I cannot wait for the pictures.

Same here. Looking forward to see those pictures Mr. Tiber!

Don't worry folks, they'll come soon!

Meanwhile, I did some experiments with MLCAD about tumblehome effects for the HMS Unclaimable, I made 3 tumblehome effects on 4 mid sections :

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2

I like nr 1 the best, even though there are 4 studs between the guns.

What do you think?

I'm getting the hang of this MLCAD, so maybe I'll continue with that model and build the Unclaimable out of it.

Mr Tiber

[exo attack]

I also like no.1 the best, even if it means fewer guns. Glad to hear You're getting a hang of MLcad, I am not very good at it myself. Still waiting for those pics!

[Bonaparte]

I think I also prefer nr. 1. But it is difficult to say at this stage.

It will be easier to see if you added some

[El Bucanero]

I think I also prefer nr. 1. But it is difficult to say at this stage.

It will be easier to see if you added some

Yes but I had problems when I tried attaching those:

1. They can't be attached (at least, I can't) at the same angle as the slopes for the tumblehome

2. For some reason the flags don't fit on the plates at the right way.

Here's another pic of the MLCAD Ship:

As you can see, there's a deck on it. But that's because MLCAD allows you to make bricks float in the air...

I don't know how to get a deck on it without showing the colour of the deck (gray) at the sides!

So how should I do that?

Mr Tiber

[Capn Frank]

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The first one looks like it'd be easier to have clean lines. Though if you wanted to have only 3 studs, i'd go for the 3 brick high slopes and have a 2x2 white brick or 1 brick high sloped brick under the gun port.

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Can you try to have 2 x (whatever) black plates right on top of the white sloped bricks?

if you did that, then you have something solid to place the gray plates on,

or have tiles on the black plates, then have some gray plates removable *y* .

Also with the 2 x (whatever) plates on top of the gun ports, there'd be a more solid place to put the port hole covers.

Maybe something like this:

Hopefully that helps,

P

[ZCerberus]

Yes but I had problems when I tried attaching those:

1. They can't be attached (at least, I can't) at the same angle as the slopes for the tumblehome

2. For some reason the flags don't fit on the plates at the right way.

Here's another pic of the MLCAD Ship:

As you can see, there's a deck on it. But that's because MLCAD allows you to make bricks float in the air...

I don't know how to get a deck on it without showing the colour of the deck (gray) at the sides!

So how should I do that?

Mr Tiber

Tiber... a couple of notes for your MLCAD-ness

First you can rotate things to a smaller degree by selecting the smaller grid on the upper right, or you can manually enter the degree calculation by clicking on the keyboard icon.

Secondly, and perhaps more importantly the deck is quite easy to get where you want it. Just use plates along the sides stacked three high with the a 2x width plate one plat below where you want the deck to start. Or if you want the deck removeable, 2 plates lower and then add tiles one lower. I think this is the same advice Phred was giving

[El Bucanero]

The first one looks like it'd be easier to have clean lines. Though if you wanted to have only 3 studs, i'd go for the 3 brick high slopes and have a 2x2 white brick or 1 brick high sloped brick under the gun port.

Can you try to have 2 x (whatever) black plates right on top of the white sloped bricks?

if you did that, then you have something solid to place the gray plates on,

or have tiles on the black plates, then have some gray plates removable *y* .

Also with the 2 x (whatever) plates on top of the gun ports, there'd be a more solid place to put the port hole covers.

Maybe something like this:

Hopefully that helps,

P

Tiber... a couple of notes for your MLCAD-ness

First you can rotate things to a smaller degree by selecting the smaller grid on the upper right, or you can manually enter the degree calculation by clicking on the keyboard icon.

Secondly, and perhaps more importantly the deck is quite easy to get where you want it. Just use plates along the sides stacked three high with the a 2x width plate one plat below where you want the deck to start. Or if you want the deck removeable, 2 plates lower and then add tiles one lower. I think this is the same advice Phred was giving

Thanks, both of you. Very useful advices.

I took some pictures of the current Unclaimable. This is still an experiment, so the colours are not right yet.

The grey is supposed to be white and the blue is supposed to be black.

In this picture, you can see I chose for having four studs between the guns. You can also see the tiles, so I can take of the deck without taking it apart:

And a final shot from the other side:

I know, the pic is a bit fuzzy.

Mr Tiber

[exo attack]

I think it looks fine with that amount of guns Mr Tiber.

[Bonaparte]

Looking good Mr. Tiber!

But it would be helpful to make another picture so we can better see the tumblehome-effect.

Maybe a picture along the side of the ship, taken from the stern or bow.

[Capn Frank]

With the HMS i'm guessing it's going to be english, correct?

Looks very clean with 4 studs between cannons. with those 2 brick high sloped bricks.

Are you going to keep the 4 studs between gun ports?

You should try the 2x3 or 2x4 wedge bricks to smooth out the bow and stern areas on the side.

Great lookin ship so far Mr. Tiber *y*

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[El Bucanero]

With the HMS i'm guessing it's going to be english, correct?

Looks very clean with 4 studs between cannons. with those 2 brick high sloped bricks.

Are you going to keep the 4 studs between gun ports?

You should try the 2x3 or 2x4 wedge bricks to smooth out the bow and stern areas on the side.

Great lookin ship so far Mr. Tiber *y*

P

English, yes that's what it's gonna be! This ship is a sister ship of the English ship HMS Unpredictable after all, so it has to be English.

Speaking about the Unpredictable, here's a pic of the sides of the Unpredictable.

I think I'm gonna do the sides of the Unclaimable the same way as I did here, but than with 3 studs between the guns. Like I said, it's a sister ship of the Unpredictable after all... Maybe not as historically accurate as the other tumblehome way, but easier for me since I almost have no white 2 x 2 x 3 slopes, and I bet my parents wouldn't want me to do a bricklink order again...

What do you think?

Mr Tiber

What do you think??

[Bonaparte]

The unpredictable looks like a very decent ship Mr. Tiber.

Don't forget that not all ships had the tumblehome-effect, so I wouldn't focus too much on this.

[El Bucanero]

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[Bonaparte]

It looks like you're not familiar with the Unpredictable, or are you??

Mr Tiber

Why do you think that Mr. Tiber?

I know that the ship sunk and already went through the (rather oversized ;-) ) pictures a few times while searching for inspiration for the L' Orient.

[El Bucanero]

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[Bonaparte]

I dunno why, I just had a feeling X-D Probably because you said: The Unpredictable looks like a decent ship.

It just sounded like a first comment :S . I need sleep... Did it help you with L'Orient?

Mr Tiber

I see, you're right. It might have sounded a bit like a first comment :-D

I like the form of the sails of the Unpredictable. Some of the temporary sails I have put on the L'Orient don't look that good at this moment. That's why I haven't posted any pictures yet of the ship with sails.

[Berry Syedow]

Mr. Tiber, I think I'll reserve judgment until the ship's build has progressed to a more appropriate stage. You seem to know what you're doing, for now. ;-)

Coming back on the tumblehome discussion, this is a good example using the tall slopes.

Also the stern has the tumblehome-effect. But I'm not 100% sure how the stern is constructed...

Sorry to quote such an old post, but this stern caught my eye. It looks like Monsieur Legeaux used these pieces (below) to support the top and the bottom of the angled section of the stern.

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. :-$ Just found it rather interesting...

[zouave]

So the ship is pretty much done?If so you and Mister Phes need to battle it out and give this warship a test- run.

[El Bucanero]

So the ship is pretty much done?If so you and Mister Phes need to battle it out and give this warship a test- run.

Quite the opposit infact. :-D

I recently made some pictures, although I think I should make better ones, I'll post them anyway!

Here's a teaser pic of the ship.

Quite unclear, but there'll be more!

As you can see, alot has been changed. The current ship is more in the style of the HMS Unpredictable now.

Mr Tiber

[Bonaparte]

Quite the opposit infact. :-D

I recently made some pictures, although I think I should make better ones, I'll post them anyway!

Here's a teaser pic of the ship.

Quite unclear, but there'll be more!

As you can see, alot has been changed. The current ship is more in the style of the HMS Unpredictable now.

Mr Tiber

FINALLY!

I was wondering when you would continue on your ship :-D .

Good to see you started again. I'm very interested in seeing how you progress.

[El Bucanero]

FINALLY!

I was wondering when you would continue on your ship :-D .

Good to see you started again. I'm very interested in seeing how you progress.

Good, here's another pic:

It's almost finished.

It looks shorter in the pics...

Well I'll be away for the weekend and will be starting a new thread when it's finished.

What do you think?

Mr Tiber

[Sir Norman Ray]

Speaking as a man with so much boating in his blood, its actually salt water, I like this ship a lot. It's a grand piece of work :-$

Speaking as someone who prefers ground combat, I can only see it as a limit war vessel :-P

[Bonaparte]

Good, here's another pic:

It's almost finished.

It looks shorter in the pics...

Well I'll be away for the weekend and will be starting a new thread when it's finished.

What do you think?

Mr Tiber

Looking good Mr. Tiber.

I like those 2 guns on the back of the ship.

I'll wait with more comments till I see some close-ups.

[El Bucanero]

Thanks for your feedback!

What do you think about the stern? Too high?

I think I'll rebuild it so it's fully integrated with the rest of the ship.

I also think this (apart from the Acheron Rebuild) will be my last prefab hull built ship. The limitations make me sick!

Mr Tiber

[Bonaparte]

Thanks for your feedback!

What do you think about the stern? Too high?

No, I don't think the stern is too high. It looks very well integrated.

It looks good on this ship!