The Pearl - Day Two

[Bob]

Vote Count:

Mary / TheBoyWonder: 6 (Captain Genaro, ADHO15, The Legonater, Rumble Strike, Scubacarrot, Hinckley)

Alice / Rumble Strike: 4 (TrumpetKing67, Sandy, Nightshroud99, Palathadric)

With 21 players, a majority of 11 votes is needed for a lynch.

[The Legonater]

Where did I "tear into" Babs exactly? Quote it, please. And make sure it's "towards the start" and not the "shit don't stink" I accused her of after she went after her silly suspicion of me again. I'd really like to see where I "tore into" Babs from the beginning.

Well, my apologies. Looking back at the situation, it would seem this did not start until the second day. However, comments like:

It did develop quickly and Mary is notoriously doofusy.

Could you re-read what I said? ...thank you for not being lazy and incompetent.

Want me to talk? How about this? Shut your ugly face.

Seem generally insulting and unhelpful. All of this is irrelevant in contrast to the voting and the questions going around, though. I find it odd that you'd spend so much time interrogating such a small matter.

[TrumpetKing]

Timmy, how have I been defensive of Jonathan? If I am, it is because I trust him. I sort of see neutrals as helpful, but they are usually more of a nuisance.

[Hinckley]

Try some patience.

No, I refuse to try patience. I don't have the time. As for asking people to quote things to me, I'm asking to quote things they're saying I've done. Asking them to quote myself back to me. I know they can't since their accusations are false.

Well, my apologies. Looking back at the situation, it would seem this did not start until the second day. However, comments like:

Seem generally insulting and unhelpful. All of this is irrelevant in contrast to the voting and the questions going around, though. I find it odd that you'd spend so much time interrogating such a small matter.

These are insults? They show arrogance? I've told Scott his face is ugly and then followed it with . That was probably a serious insult. The other quote is about someone who didn't read what I said. Again, I have no patience for that. I'm interrogating a small matter? Aren't you the one saying that my "arrogance" and "insults" were making you suspicious of me. I've answered to that now. So... where exactly am I interrogating?

You're seeing things in a rather magnified way...a common Scum tell.

[The Legonater]

I was actually just trying to back up Holly's point, but as you said, you've answered that, and thus continuing this is pointless.

[Hinckley]

I was actually just trying to back up Holly's point, but as you said, you've answered that, and thus continuing this is pointless.

No, because Holly's point was that my behavior was not odd.

[Hinckley]

What I find odd is that nobody seems to be too concerned about the two tracker claims. However, many people are stuck on the idea that I'm supposedly insulting everyone. Geez, you people are all retards.

[TrumpetKing]

I was just about to mention the two tracker claims. Would it be safe to lynch the scummier of the two?

[Hinckley]

Mine seems to be the Scummier one. I don't know the identity of Barbara's but I'm trying to figure out when this tracker contacted Barbara and why it wasn't mentioned before.

Although, I think I know who Barbara's tracker may be. And it would make a lot of sense if I'm right.

[TrumpetKing]

I'd feel much more comfortable voting for the scummier one, especially considering that it is almost given one is a liar.

Unvote: Alice (Rumble Strike)

Vote: Unspecified Liar Who Is Claiming Tracker (Unknown) (I'm just kidding, obviously. Just thought I'd clear it up before I get accused of being crazy, but just in case I somehow need to:

Unvote: Unspecified Liar Who Is Claiming Tracker (Unknown)

[Captain Genaro]

What I find odd is that nobody seems to be too concerned about the two tracker claims. However, many people are stuck on the idea that I'm supposedly insulting everyone. Geez, you people are all retards.

I've wanted to know the name of Lynette for some time now. I have no idea what is going on with these two trackers and I would really like to hear what Barbara has to say on this matter.

Just to make sure I have this right.

Tracker 1 (Lynette) targeted Scott. You randomly called her out, asked "what are you doing out of your room?" and got lucky.

Tracker 2 (unknown) targeted unknown. All we know about this tracker is that they contacted Barbara sometime and said "hi, I'm a tracker." We don't know who they have targeted.

Can you give us any more information on these two? For example, a name would be nice. It would be a wasted, scum assisting day if this whole issue continues to tie up our time and prevent us from getting anything productive done. The longer we are in the shadows, the less time we have to consider information when it is presented to us. Additionally, this delay and these claims have diverted our attention away from the lynch targets, Mary and Alice. I'm fine with that, assuming we are presented with alternatives other than, as Diane so accurately puts it, Unspecified Liar Who Is Claiming Tracker (Unknown).

[Hinckley]

I've wanted to know the name of Lynette for some time now. I have no idea what is going on with these two trackers and I would really like to hear what Barbara has to say on this matter.

I would like to hear more from her as well.

Just to make sure I have this right.

Tracker 1 (Lynette) targeted Scott. You randomly called her out, asked "what are you doing out of your room?" and got lucky.

Well, I'd like to think it was skill. But, basically, yes. It was a shot in the dark and she incriminated herself. She claims to have targeted Scott and gotten the result that Scott targeted nobody.

Tracker 2 (unknown) targeted unknown. All we know about this tracker is that they contacted Barbara sometime and said "hi, I'm a tracker." We don't know who they have targeted.

Barbara claims this tracker targeted her and saw her targeting Scott.

Can you give us any more information on these two? For example, a name would be nice. It would be a wasted, scum assisting day if this whole issue continues to tie up our time and prevent us from getting anything productive done. The longer we are in the shadows, the less time we have to consider information when it is presented to us. Additionally, this delay and these claims have diverted our attention away from the lynch targets, Mary and Alice. I'm fine with that, assuming we are presented with alternatives other than, as Diane so accurately puts it, Unspecified Liar Who Is Claiming Tracker (Unknown).

Let's gather as much info as we can before revealing Lynette. There's a slim chance she might be telling the truth, although I doubt it. Just considering she told me she targeted Scott, and I assume she was covering her megablocks in case Scott was watched and I really did know who she targeted. And her reasons for targeting Scott are somewhat lame. Though, I admit, that's subjective...

[def]

The tracker I talked to targeted me, found out that I targeted Scott, and was told I was unsuccessful. This is why they contacted me, they were confident I wasn't the killer.

Also, any other third party jewel thieves should contact me, so we can pool info and increase the chances of us winning, independent from the town and scum, of course. After all, Jonathan took it upon himself to spill my stuff publically, before sending me PMs to clarify, so we may as well make lemonade from these lemons.

[Hinckley]

The tracker I talked to targeted me, found out that I targeted Scott, and was told I was unsuccessful. This is why they contacted me, they were confident I wasn't the killer.

What kind of tracker gets your target and your result?

Also, any other third party jewel thieves should contact me, so we can pool info and increase the chances of us winning, independent from the town and scum, of course. After all, Jonathan took it upon himself to spill my stuff publically, before sending me PMs to clarify, so we may as well make lemonade from these lemons.

No, you outed yourself. The story was completely anonymous until you claimed to be Sam Byck. Nice try.

[Capt. Redblade]

What I find odd is that nobody seems to be too concerned about the two tracker claims. However, many people are stuck on the idea that I'm supposedly insulting everyone. Geez, you people are all retards.

I initially missed the announcement of Barbara's tracker, but, yeah, knowing that's out there, I'd like to get more info too. A potential lie about a crew number is all well and good, but a potential lie about a role is something to be scrutinized by all. If Barbara can offer anything more, I'd like to hear it.

The tracker I talked to targeted me, found out that I targeted Scott, and was told I was unsuccessful. This is why they contacted me, they were confident I wasn't the killer.

Also, any other third party jewel thieves should contact me, so we can pool info and increase the chances of us winning, independent from the town and scum, of course. After all, Jonathan took it upon himself to spill my stuff publically, before sending me PMs to clarify, so we may as well make lemonade from these lemons.

Couldn't you at least have the decency to wait until I was done composing my thoughts? But... wait... what?

The tracker I talked to targeted me, found out that I targeted Scott, and was told I was unsuccessful.

That doesn't sound like a normal tracker.

Why was he told your result? Is this some kind of alteration to the role?

[def]

You know what? If you to know stuff about me, ask. Rather, you want to lord every tidbit of info over people with your annoying plays, and I'm not about to put up with that. Instead, I took my fate into my own hands, and lo and behold, no votes for me. No, I won't let you be framing the narrative in your bullying way.

As for a tracker who gets results? You're the one who thought the host was lying about the set numbers having no correlation. Is it even a little bit implausible? I really think not.

Bill, it's not correct for the tracker to get results like that, so we can take it up after the game. The person has to be a tracker since they knew I'd targeted Scott.

[Hinckley]

You know what? If you to know stuff about me, ask. Rather, you want to lord every tidbit of info over people with your annoying plays, and I'm not about to put up with that. Instead, I took my fate into my own hands, and lo and behold, no votes for me. No, I won't let you be framing the narrative in your bullying way.

Calm down. I put a summary in because I know you don't like the plays and you still bitch about it. Oh well, I tried. You're being quite over-dramatic about it, anyway. I'm a bully now? Writing an anonymous play about your weird claim is bullying? Breath, dude. I think you're over-reacting. One second, you say I outed you, the next second you claimed to have taken your fate into your own hands. So, which is it? Did you take your fate into your own hands or did I reveal your identity? Sorry, I always forget how sensitive you are.

As for a tracker who gets results? You're the one who thought the host was lying about the set numbers having no correlation. Is it even a little bit implausible? I really think not.

Right, it's just as weird. You don't believe the set number correlation but you're more than willing to believe the tracker who sees your result? How convenient. Why are you so trusting of this tracker?

Bill, it's not correct for the tracker to get results like that, so we can take it up after the game. The person has to be a tracker since they knew I'd targeted Scott.

There is the other possible explanation that you made the person up, or you're both Scum and working together, or maybe some other explanation. Don't know, but I don't agree that they have to be a tracker.

[Capt. Redblade]

You know what? If you to know stuff about me, ask. Rather, you want to lord every tidbit of info over people with your annoying plays, and I'm not about to put up with that. Instead, I took my fate into my own hands, and lo and behold, no votes for me. No, I won't let you be framing the narrative in your bullying way.

As for a tracker who gets results? You're the one who thought the host was lying about the set numbers having no correlation. Is it even a little bit implausible? I really think not.

Yikes, for a second I was worried you were talking to me.

Bill, it's not correct for the tracker to get results like that, so we can take it up after the game. The person has to be a tracker since they knew I'd targeted Scott.

I understand that. My initial thought was could this be the host making alterations to the roles to spice up the voyage? Whatever the answer, it's an odd situation.

How did we get from this...

Mine seems to be the Scummier one. I don't know the identity of Barbara's but I'm trying to figure out when this tracker contacted Barbara and why it wasn't mentioned before.

Although, I think I know who Barbara's tracker may be. And it would make a lot of sense if I'm right.

...to this?

There is the other possible explanation that you made the person up, or you're both Scum and working together, or maybe some other explanation. Don't know, but I don't agree that they have to be a tracker.

You seemed reasonably sure of the scumminess of Squeaky Fromme's claim, so why are you now questioning the existence of the other tracker? You were the one who told everyone to focus on the two trackers in the first place, and you even seemed to entertain the idea that they both existed, so this seems like an odd tangent.

[Hinckley]

You seemed reasonably sure of the scumminess of Squeaky Fromme's claim, so why are you now questioning the existence of the other tracker? You were the one who told everyone to focus on the two trackers in the first place, and you even seemed to entertain the idea that they both existed, so this seems like an odd tangent.

Barbara is being rather confusing about it. First of all, this tracker of hers claims to get Barbara's Night Action results as well. That's weird. It came in between those two posts of mine you quoted. Barbara is getting overly defensive and still trying to paint me as some sort of villain, claiming one second I outed her in thread, which she did herself, and the next second calling me a bully she needed to take her fate into her own hands from before I ... I don't know what. Anyway, in private she's saying some weird things about the tracker she's referring to contacting me, which never happened. I'm not sure why she thinks that but she clearly said there was a separate tracker who targeted her and then contacted her. Weird... Something doesn't add up and there's something odd with both claimed trackers...

[Hinckley]

Also, any other third party jewel thieves should contact me, so we can pool info and increase the chances of us winning, independent from the town and scum, of course. After all, Jonathan took it upon himself to spill my stuff publically, before sending me PMs to clarify, so we may as well make lemonade from these lemons.

I thought you originally said that you have to get the diamond before these other thieves do. So, how would pooling together work exactly?

[Sandy]

Whaaat? We need to find the thieves who took the diamond, but now there are even more thieves, working independently from the actual culprits?! Is there no honesty left on this ship?

Practically speaking these neutral thieves are in fact neutral investigators, then, at least up until they find the diamond. So besides that, we have a day investigator and not one but two trackers - the other also seeing the results of the one they tracked?! Someone's got to be lying in that bunch, that's all just too damn confusing...

Now we only have the simple and easy task of finding out who the liar is.

[def]

They can steal it off me after I get it, or I off of them, and it's win-win.

As for the bullying part, you put info about my role up, in an inaccurate way ("he probably kills to get the diamond"), and try to dominate the way things are discussed. The only way to clear things up was to inform people myself. Thanks for revealing my personal shit in thread like that. Bully. It's pretty damn annoying.

[Hinckley]

They can steal it off me after I get it, or I off of them, and it's win-win.

As for the bullying part, you put info about my role up, in an inaccurate way ("he probably kills to get the diamond"), and try to dominate the way things are discussed. The only way to clear things up was to inform people myself. Thanks for revealing my personal shit in thread like that. Bully. It's pretty damn annoying.

Please calm down. You're blowing this all way out of proportion and letting your feelings get hurt over imagined slights.

I said "I think he kills to get the diamond". That's not inaccurate. I thought that, at the time and I still thinks it's possible. Saying I think that is not inaccurate as that is my thought. I didn't make that part of the play, I made that part of my opinion. You are the one who is framing things inaccurately. Your personal shit? It's a game. You revealed yourself. Where and how exactly did I "dominate the way things are discussed". So you informed people yourself to clear up what? My opinion? That wasn't necessary.

Look at the facts from other people's perspective (or maybe just mine): You're a neutral jewel thief who admits to being targeted and are corroborating it with a tracker who supposedly saw your target and your result. I'm not denying it's possible. Bob has done some questionable things in the past. Anyway, those are the facts we have. Can you see why I would question it? You could be lying about a couple of things in there. Can you see how someone would think that?

This is what I'm told you said (bold added for emphasis):

I'm a third party, and I simply need to target a scum before some other third party player(s) do. Then I win, even if I don't survive.

I only tell you since if you're town, I can sort of catch a single scum (unless a different 3rd party does so first), if you're a third party, you have nothing to worry about, and if you're scum, I don't affect your win condition, so it doesn't matter.

So, you seem to be contradicting yourself about how the role works when it comes to who gets the diamond first. Maybe you can clarify that.

[def]

If I target scum first, I fulfill my win condition. In that case, I likely have caught a scum. If someone else gets it first, then I have to take from them, I'm guessing.

In terms of my 'personal shit', I'm talking my game stuff. I don't need you outing my role. It's a dick thing to do. And then sending me PMs to explain after... Jesus, ask first, then, if you're sure I'm lying, reveal. No need to megabluck up my game if you don't know what's up. Bull in a Cina shop.

[Ferrik]

Mary did the same thing I'm accusing Alice of. Talks about why to vote someone but then does not post the vote. Then I prompt her to vote and she does. Quickly. To avoid suspicion? Possibly. Ping.

Well to me, both Alice and Mary seem suspicious and as you pointed out both are being voted for more or less for the same reasons. It is really strange to say you have feel that someone is scum but then not vote for some time, until Hinckley asked and then suddenly voting and saying that's "exactly what I was going to do". For me Mary seems more scummy to me because of her silence and how she took some time to vote.

Vote: Mary (TheBoyWonder)