The Pearl - Day Three

[Bob]

You may now vote.

With 18 players, a majority of 10 is required.

[Scubacarrot]

Vote: Bristol (Peanuts) Obvious reasons.

[Sandy]

Vote: Bristol (Peanuts)

Just so you know, Michael, if you're wrong about this, you're going to be lynched next. Make no mistake about that.

[Rumble Strike]

This whole neutral jewel thieves thing is somewhat getting out of hand, especially if they are a faction who can convert, as it seems Michael is saying. However as long as we are using them to gain good intel, and they are working with us rather than against us, then for now it's an arrangement that suits both. I have been suspicious of Michael before, but this kind of lead is too valuable to pass up.

Vote: Bristol(Peanuts)

[ADHO15]

Hmm, I don't especially buy Michael's claim, though as has been said, I don't know what he hopes to gain by lying to us, other than Bristol's death, which doesn't seem as harmful to the rest of us as you'd expect, given her attitude. If I recall correctly, there was history and a strongly placed vote between the two of them yesterday, which I assume is somehow linked to this revelation.

I find it hard to believe that there are so many non-Innocents among us, but maybe the captain wanted to make more of a multi-faction game. If Michael and his accomplice are part of a neutral cult whose win condition is to obtain the diamond; which they have already done; surely they have won and lynching them will not matter, or am I missing something? If Bristol is actually Innocent, a less harmful way to test Michael's story would be to lynch him, no?

Since we can throw votes around, I might as well:

Vote: Michael (badboytje88)

for the time being...

What's that about? Obviously something has happened which the host doesn't like, and I'm guessing it was Michael that did it, which makes me want to believe him...

[Rufus]

Exactly. He has nothing to gain by lying to us. It is possible that his "partner" is feeding wrong information to him, though. Some of us are more gullible than others.

I agree with this, including the questions to Michael.

Yesterday, Bristol accused Michael. Today, Michael accuses Bristol. It appeared to me quite strongly that Michael wasn't following the game: he confused Mary with Susan on day one; yesterday he appeared once to vote for Mary and appeared completely to gloss over or miss the entire current topic of discussion at the time: the information from Jonathan's play. Scum or dumb? Bristol clearly thought it was scummy enough to place a vote.

Now the tables are turned. As Stacy says, Michael has nothing to gain by lying about this - if Bristol is town, Michael will be lynched tomorrow. However, it's possible Michael thinks he's telling the truth and has been fed a load of baloney by his 'partner' who might well be scum.

Now... if the story is true, Michael's partner has the diamond. If it's not true, and Michael's partner is scum, then Michael's partner has the diamond. Assuming the master criminals are bona fide, then they have to steal the diamond from any member of the scum; why then should they not be able to steal the diamond from Michael? There's something a little fishy about this.

Having said that, it's a brave scum who approaches a townie on day one with a story like this. But if I were scum, and felt the need to do so, I'd probably choose Michael.

What I do not like about this is that it is quite possible that both Michael and Bristol are town. If Michael is town, then he should have no qualms about answering these points (particularly, Stacy's questions). Until that point, I will not vote for either.

I will, however, Vote: Holly (Nightshroud) for now, for reasons I stated earlier. If Michael can answer the questions to a reasonable degree of satisfaction, then I will gladly vote for Bristol.

I said this to you in private earlier today, but I will repeat it here:

How about saving a towny from death and lynching a scum? Not that this would serve you any good, but in my book if Bristol is town and it can be asserted that Michael is scum ... then lynching the accuser makes more sense ... no?

If it can be asserted that Michael is scum, then of course yes. How did you have in mind to do this?

[Piratedave84]

Hmm, I don't especially buy Michael's claim, though as has been said, I don't know what he hopes to gain by lying to us, other than Bristol's death, which doesn't seem as harmful to the rest of us as you'd expect, given her attitude. If I recall correctly, there was history and a strongly placed vote between the two of them yesterday, which I assume is somehow linked to this revelation.

I find it hard to believe that there are so many non-Innocents among us, but maybe the captain wanted to make more of a multi-faction game. If Michael and his accomplice are part of a neutral cult whose win condition is to obtain the diamond; which they have already done; surely they have won and lynching them will not matter, or am I missing something? If Bristol is actually Innocent, a less harmful way to test Michael's story would be to lynch him, no?

Since we can throw votes around, I might as well:

Vote: Michael (badboytje88)

for the time being...

What's that about? Obviously something has happened which the host doesn't like, and I'm guessing it was Michael that did it, which makes me want to believe him...

Barbara will call you crazy and gice you shit for saying that!!!

I agree with you that we can also test the claim by lynching Michael who let's face it it lying.

I will be proactive here and answer this question ahead of time: "why would scum accuse an innocent knowing they will be lynched tomorrow!"

It could very well be that there is in fact a scum watcher or a scum investigator that found out Bristol had a role/action; sacrificing a goon to take out a PR is an acecptable sacrifice/gamble IMO!

[Rufus]

Having said what I said, I have a sneaky suspicion Michael might not be the townie he claims to be:

I would strongly advise town not to lynch Barbara today. I am not trying to defend her I am just pointing out that there is a more important matter to discuss.

Funny how this all came up when a lot of people were looking to lynch Holly, isn't it?

[ADHO15]

It appeared to me quite strongly that Michael wasn't following the game: he confused Mary with Susan on day one; yesterday he appeared once to vote for Mary and appeared completely to gloss over or miss the entire current topic of discussion at the time: the information from Jonathan's play. Scum or dumb? Bristol clearly thought it was scummy enough to place a vote.

Don't forget his posting after the day had ended yesterday. And mostly to argue with Bristol, no less!

My partner informed me at the beginning of this cruise that she knew that I was innocent.

I know focusing on this kind of thing earlier was not a good idea, but this time I think it's different. Michael's partner definitely appears to be female.

[Capt. Redblade]

I feel that if Michael's story were true, he'd be more willing to explain and defend it. Instead, he springs this revelation on us and then completely disappears. He also had some heated words with Bristol yesterday and this could just be a retaliatory move against her. Something about this whole thing definitely seems off, but I'll wait and see if Michael has anything to say first.

[Sandy]

Having said what I said, I have a sneaky suspicion Michael might not be the townie he claims to be:

Actually, he claims to be a converted neutral now. Which makes me reconsider my vote... Bristol can either be town or scum. Michael can either be neutral or scum.

Therefore, I will

Unvote: Bristol (Peanuts)

Vote: Michael (badboytje)

[Rufus]

Actually, he claims to be a converted neutral now.

Did he specifically say that? I must have missed it.

Which makes me reconsider my vote... Bristol can either be town or scum. Michael can either be neutral or scum.

Good call.

Let me correct that:

Michael tells us you are not part of his faction for as far as Michael is aware of.

What bejaysus is this? Surely you'd know.

I can think of lots of reasons why scum might come up with this sort of story at this point. It distracts from the names lynch candidates. It calls into question the veracity of the Criminal Mastermind 'investigations' last night: if the 'amateur thieves' stole the diamond, then the scum may not have had it when they were 'investigated' (although the problem there is - how does Bob decide who gets it? That's a problem with the game set-up as we currently understand it). Most of all, if it were true it would mean the CMs are no longer looking for scum.

If you ask me, it's a load of horseshit.

Unvote: Holly (Nightshroud)

Vote: Michael (Bad Boy)

[TheBoyWonder]

Micheals story seems like utter cods wallop. My reasons why:

Arguments with Bristol yesterday, now accuses her

Claims to be a neutral cult-type role

Claims not to know who is in her team

Vote: Michael (badboytje88)

[TheBoyWonder]

HOLLY IS DODGY.

Ok, here's the deal. I know 100% that Peanuts is scum, and I'm pretty sure she is town because of how she still accused you on day 1 of this thread. I am choosing people I think are scum to message, I don't trust Rufus or Adho. Palathadric is also fishy, and def is out of the question as he is neautralI am Badboys' teamamate, we were both vanilla townies and then last night we became a third party. Our single goal is to get the diamond, I was extremely lucky and targeted Peanuts last night.She was scum and we now have the diamond.Unfortunately, tonight Badboy will probably be targeted for the diamond and also killed.Think about this, Peanuts is scum. Lynch her and we've got 3. Message me back with questions.

[Piratedave84]

I've now seen Michael drop in a few times ... and leave, this only adds to the suspicious-ness of his post.

I have been advocating for it and will put my money where my mouth is:

Vote: Michael (badboytje88)

Let's face it, based on previous behaviour, it is FAR more likely that Michael is scum based on his behaviour since day one than Bristol.

I can only imagine the face-palming going on behind the scenes if Micheal posted that as a "rogue"!!! If this was a team effort/strategy .... speechless

[TheBoyWonder]

That was the PM I received from Holly just so you know.

[Nightshroud99]

Well, Mary, you don't know how to play well with others. At least other people have the common courtesy to give pseudonyms and then gauge the groups reaction before throwing them under the bus.

But I suppose you're too addle-brained for such a maneuver.

[Sandy]

And this is the PM I got from Holly now, too.

Sorry to go public with it, but I think it is important that everyone knows this.

Sandy I am Badboy's partner, he took the initiative with his claim because we are both in the hot seat.

I know you're town because last night we targeted two people, I chose Peanuts and he you. I got the message I had stolen the diamond from the Thieves, Badboy didn't get anything so I assume you are town.

Our exact role title is Amateur Thieves

​At the beginning of the game we were both vanilla, with the exception that I knew Badboy was town. It's a game mechanic I confirmed with Bob.

We were both informed as night that we had become Jewel thieves.

Right now we win the game if we keep the diamond, but there is a miscommunication in the role title I have to confirm with Bob.

I hope this helps.

I personally find this all too convenient. Sure, Holly claims she found me innocent last night, which is correct, but why didn't they (meaning Michael and Holly) say this when they started accusing Bristol? Why only after I pointed out the logical fallacies in their story?

So we have two ways to go: either Michael and Holly are telling the truth, and Bristol is scum, or they are lying to save their neck, and are scum themselves.

My suggested course of action is to lynch Michael now, and deal with both Bristol and Holly tonight. We are bound to find out the truth one way or the other.

[TheBoyWonder]

Well, Mary, you don't know how to play well with others. At least other people have the common courtesy to give pseudonyms and then gauge the groups reaction before throwing them under the bus.

But I suppose you're too addle-brained for such a maneuver.

Oh look, hostility. What a common scum ploy.

Maybe someone's trying to shift attention away from their scummy friends.

[Piratedave84]

HOLLY IS DODGY.

It looks and reads staged, written in haste and altogether a shitty strategy; I cannot quote PM's so I will copy/paste:

I know 100% that Peanuts is scum, and I'm pretty sure she is town

Scum yet town ....

because of how she still accused you on day 1 of this thread

Day one of the day 3 thread? WTF?

I am choosing people I think are scum to message

Why?

Unfortunately, tonight Badboy will probably be targeted for the diamond and also killed

Listen he told us he did not have the jewel which means you have it which in turns means YOU will be targetted for it ...

So.Much.Retardness

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This sort of makes sense, if Holly and MIchael are the remainder of a scum team with no leadership and based on how they have generally been clueless ... this tactic does not suprise me!

SNIP

My suggested course of action is to lynch Michael now, and deal with both Bristol and Holly tonight. We are bound to find out the truth one way or the other.

I agree 100% with this!

Would it be too bold to ask the SK and or Vig to please target Holly tonight?

Pretty please!

[Rufus]

HOLLY IS DODGY.

No kidding.

Ok, here's the deal. I know 100% that Peanuts is scum, and I'm pretty sure she is town because of how she still accused you on day 1 of this thread. I am choosing people I think are scum to message

So wait... Bristol is scum because she's town because she accused you in thread. And she's chosen you to message because you're scum because Bristol is scum because she's town because she accused you. Simple.

I am Badboys' teamamate,

As if that weren't blindingly obvious.

[Nightshroud99]

Wow did I really make that many errors? God I need to proof-read and not be in such a rush.

And yeah, I'm hostile to you Mary because you're a retard. You should have been lynched day 1 because you are anathema to the town.

Stacy, I'd agree with you except that we weren't really in danger yet and there was no reason for Michael to come forward, I had told him last night I was going to message some people, but while I was not here he went ahead and posted in the forum. I hadn't messaged anyone yet because I wanted to see more replies and where a future bandwagon would go. Also, I wanted to see more of Peanuts' posting before he figured out he was being accused.

Stacy, how can you deal with both me and Bristol tonight? We only had 1 vig.

[TheBoyWonder]

Wow did I really make that many errors? God I need to proof-read and not be in such a rush.

And yeah, I'm hostile to you Mary because you're a retard. You should have been lynched day 1 because you are anathema to the town.

Stacy, I'd agree with you except that we weren't really in danger yet and there was no reason for Michael to come forward, I had told him last night I was going to message some people, but while I was not here he went ahead and posted in the forum. I hadn't messaged anyone yet because I wanted to see more replies and where a future bandwagon would go. Also, I wanted to see more of Peanuts' posting before he figured out he was being accused.

Stacy, how can you deal with both me and Bristol tonight? We only had 1 vig.

I'm a retard, so you message me asking for support? I'm not the retard here if that is the case.

[Piratedave84]

SNIP

And yeah, I'm hostile to you Mary because you're a retard. You should have been lynched day 1 because you are anathema to the town.

SNIP

Don;t be angry at Mary because she outed you! If anything you're the retard for even considering sending such PMs ...

SNIP

Stacy, how can you deal with both me and Bristol tonight? We only had 1 vig.

Maybe the SK will do us a favor ...

[Rufus]

Stacy, I'd agree with you except that we weren't really in danger yet and there was no reason for Michael to come forward, I had told him last night I was going to message some people, but while I was not here he went ahead and posted in the forum. I hadn't messaged anyone yet because I wanted to see more replies and where a future bandwagon would go. Also, I wanted to see more of Peanuts' posting before he figured out he was being accused.

No. You were under suspicion. And you knew damn well it was going to happen:

That's all I will say for now, I am now trying to find out who is a real townie. Unfortunately Jonathon is dead. If he wasn't there would be a strong development right now because he knows how to lead the town and I, sadly, do not have that sort of charisma.