ADHO15 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Wow did I really make that many errors? God I need to proof-read and not be in such a rush. And yet your message to Stacy reads perfectly well and is so nicely laid out... It looks and reads staged, written in haste and altogether a shitty strategy My thoughts exactly, which leads me to believe that either one or both of those PMs were faked, because they certainly weren't written by the same people. Mary's looks as though it was written by Mary, and Stacy's by Stacy, so I would not be surprised if Holly and Michael were in fact Scum, along with Mary and Stacy. Maybe I'm getting overly paranoid, but I do not believe any of those messages as 'evidence'.
Rufus Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 we weren't really in danger yet This is your confession. Just for emphasis: we weren't really in danger yet
ADHO15 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 And in addition to what I said before... I asked what would be the harm in lynching you, Holly and Michael, if you've already obtained the diamond and fulfilled your win condition. Now you say that you need to keep hold of the diamond for the remainder of the game to win, and the best way to that is to tell everyone that you have it? Surely Barbara will know to take it from you tonight to fulfil her win condition?
TrumpetKing Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Well, I have been suspicious of Michael for a while, so I feel much more comfortable lynching him over Bristol if we are going to test this theory. If he ends up telling the truth, we know who our lynch will be tomorrow. This is slowly starting to come together, it appears. Vote: Michael (badboytje88)
Sandy Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Stacy, how can you deal with both me and Bristol tonight? We only had 1 vig. Well, I meant some sort of investigation, but in the light of recent findings I'm not opposed that you are just killed off, either. You're either a bumbling scum or a bumbling neutral, so there's zero incentive to keep you around, sorry to say. My thoughts exactly, which leads me to believe that either one or both of those PMs were faked, because they certainly weren't written by the same people. Mary's looks as though it was written by Mary, and Stacy's by Stacy, so I would not be surprised if Holly and Michael were in fact Scum, along with Mary and Stacy. Maybe I'm getting overly paranoid, but I do not believe any of those messages as 'evidence'. You can't be serious! As if I was in the same team with "Dumb & Dumber" over there! I'd rather vote myself off than try to win with them, if that was the case... Holly wrote that message to me. I have no idea why it is better phrased than the one sent to Mary. Here's another message from Holly: I also messaged Scuba Carrot, BoyWonder, and Capt Redblade. I don't really trust Adho and Rufus, they seem a little too tight with Peanuts when it comes to posting.
Nightshroud99 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 I'm a retard, so you message me asking for support? I'm not the retard here if that is the case. No, I messaged you because I believed you to be town and also I wanted to get more people informed. You didn't seem to be in a town circle and I felt it better to get you up to speed. You're a retard because of how you handled the situation, unlike Stacy (Sandy) you blurted it out like a child trying to please people. Don;t be angry at Mary because she outed you! If anything you're the retard for even considering sending such PMs ... Maybe the SK will do us a favor ... I'm only angry about how she did it. And yet your message to Stacy reads perfectly well and is so nicely laid out... My thoughts exactly, which leads me to believe that either one or both of those PMs were faked, because they certainly weren't written by the same people. Mary's looks as though it was written by Mary, and Stacy's by Stacy, so I would not be surprised if Holly and Michael were in fact Scum, along with Mary and Stacy. Maybe I'm getting overly paranoid, but I do not believe any of those messages as 'evidence'. No they are both the ones I sent. I chose Stacy first because I knew she was town, the second one to Mary was rushed and I have no idea why I wrote it so stupidly. This is your confession. Just for emphasis: I know how Bandwagons form, at the time one hadn't started against us yet but I'm not naive enough to think it wouldn't. And in addition to what I said before... I asked what would be the harm in lynching you, Holly and Michael, if you've already obtained the diamond and fulfilled your win condition. Now you say that you need to keep hold of the diamond for the remainder of the game to win, and the best way to that is to tell everyone that you have it? Surely Barbara will know to take it from you tonight to fulfil her win condition? There seems to be a mis-communication with God, I have asked him again. I did not want to tell anyone that we had the diamond, I was going to do this differently but then my husband went out in public to confess. I am now failing to fix this.
TheBoyWonder Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 You believe/believed me to be town, yet then call me a retard, and say I should of been lynched on day 1? Someones a bit confused. And hostile.
Nightshroud99 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 You believe/believed me to be town, yet then call me a retard, and say I should of been lynched on day 1? Someones a bit confused. And hostile. Because I was wrong on my opinion of you, and since you aren't helpful you should be taken out. Is this succinct enough for you?
TheBoyWonder Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 And you've been helpful? The fact was, you sent a pm that was quite scummy, then expected us not to air it to the rest of the town?
Bob Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 Vote Count: Bristol / Peanuts: 3 (Scubacarrot, Rumble Strike, Nightshroud99) Michael / badboytje88: 6 (ADHO15, Sandy, Rufus, TheBoyWonder, Piratedave84, TrumpetKing67)
def Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Barbara will call you crazy and gice you shit for saying that!!! You have no idea what I will call crazy. Just because you wrote some crazy nonsense, that doesn't make everyone crazy. That was all for you! I'm a retard, so you message me asking for support? I'm not the retard here if that is the case. Yeah, I think you were out of hand posting that. The utter lack of discretion by people is baffling. No need to blab everything all the time. I still think we should give Michael the benefit of the doubt. I think the claim is ridiculous, and highly likely. My role is ridiculous too. Actually, the scum could make up incredibly implausible roles at this point, and it would be believable. I can target Holly tonight (hopefully winning my own game), confirm her story, and the lynch on Bristol will also confirm it. If Bristol turns up town, you have the next two lynches in clear sight. Vote: Bristol (Peanuts)
badboytje88 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 What's your goal? My goal was to own the diamond at least once during this game. CHECK If you two, just like Neutral Mastermind Girl, only have to own the diamond once, why not make your partner's name public? I am helping the town, I don't know if it will be appreciated. If it is appreciated I most certainly will tell who my partner is. Also I do not know if you noticed there are two kinds of thieves. The Thieves and the Amateur Thieves. I don't want the Thieves to get their hands on the diamond because my guess is that they still need to have the diamond in their possession on the last day of this cruise. We have...three other neutral thieves, right? Who all are, basically, investigators? In a way, yes. Why would they sabotage their own efforts by helping us find scum? If they aren't lying, what incentive would they have to help us? With every scum that is lynched/killed, their chances of success decrease. Because we have another win condition as team scum. Did the host inform you that you were a jewel thief, or did you learn it from your partner-in-crime? The host told me. At what point exactly were you informed you were turned into a thief? Before night two Did you know about you had a partner at the start of the game? My partner contacted me on day one, telling me that God told him he knew for sure I was innocent. What is your exact role title? Amateur thief Do you need to gain the diamond from your partner in order to fulfill the win condition, or is it enough that it is in your partner's possession? My partner owning it means I also won the game. Who did you target last night? You said both you and your partner had the ability to search for diamonds. I targeted Sandy, she was empty handed. Yesterday, Bristol accused Michael. Today, Michael accuses Bristol. It appeared to me quite strongly that Michael wasn't following the game: he confused Mary with Susan on day one; yesterday he appeared once to vote for Mary and appeared completely to gloss over or miss the entire current topic of discussion at the time: the information from Jonathan's play. Scum or dumb? Bristol clearly thought it was scummy enough to place a vote. I did not intend to vote for Mary on day 1, I never mixed those two up.
The Legonater Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 What is with all the endless role-claiming? The way I see it, if Michael is telling the truth, his job is done. There's nothing more he can do to the town. As such, there's no point in voting for him over Bristol who - again, if Michael is telling the truth - has the potential to hurt the town Vote: Bristol/Peanuts
TheBoyWonder Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Can't Quote on phone, but wait a minute: Because We have another win condition as team scum. Can you explain that line for me? It sounds like your admitting to being scum in that sentence. And Barbara, I can see where you are coming from, maybe I was slightly out of order, but that may and possibly has been of use to the town, which we may not of had if I/Stacy had not posted it.
badboytje88 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Well we both are thieves. The thieves can kill, we can't. Vote: Bristol/Peanuts I'm done, going to bed.
Peanuts Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 So, Michael's partner-in-crime is the formerly accused Holly? That...certainly makes sense, somehow. None of them has helped the town so far in any way. Well, I knew Michael was lying, and Holly's weird PMs don't seem very...elaborate. Guess they had to make something up really fast. Well, I'd usually would give Michael another chance to say something to speak up and make his accusation clear, but since I already know he is lying, I'll just go ahead and Vote: Michael (Badboytje) Though I'm really inclined to vote for Holly instead, but I don't think it makes any difference. They're both scum. Well, I'd usually would give Michael another chance to say something to speak up and make his accusation clear Oops, he already did. Guess I'm just that slow at posting
Captain Genaro Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Vote: Michael/badboytje88 If you're telling us the truth, you've won! Congratulations, even if you die, it does not matter. Scum need to outnumber town, not town+neutrals. Pros. 1) Town loses nothing. You've won so you lose nothing. 2) If you turn out to be neutral, we can trust everything you have said, thus eliminating more people from the potential scum list. 3) We don't risk the possibility of endangering a townie. Bristol could be town, but if you come up neutral we know that she is scum. Cons 1) We lynch a neutral instead of a scum. We have to wait until tomorrow to lynch a scum. Oh no! Why would they sabotage their own efforts by helping us find scum? If they aren't lying, what incentive would they have to help us? With every scum that is lynched/killed, their chances of success decrease. Because we have another win condition as team scum. Opps. Of course it could just be a typo. I've lost track of the number of times I've accidently referred to myself as scum while playing as town (that's called sarcasm, folks. I've had a long day).
def Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Vote: Michael/badboytje88 If you're telling us the truth, you've won! Congratulations, even if you die, it does not matter. Scum need to outnumber town, not town+neutrals. Pros. 1) Town loses nothing. You've won so you lose nothing. 2) If you turn out to be neutral, we can trust everything you have said, thus eliminating more people from the potential scum list. 3) We don't risk the possibility of endangering a townie. Bristol could be town, but if you come up neutral we know that she is scum. Cons 1) We lynch a neutral instead of a scum. We have to wait until tomorrow to lynch a scum. Oh no! You're totally scummy. The day investigator has let me know that they investigated Bristol and Bristol is in fact... A THIEF! Anyone not jumping on the lynch now are confirmed anti-town, even the neutrals
Peanuts Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Quote from Holly's PM that was made public by Ms. Cruise Director: Right now we win the game if we keep the diamond, but there is a miscommunication in the role title I have to confirm with Bob. What's your goal? My goal was to own the diamond at least once during this game. CHECK The day investigator has let me know that they investigated Bristol and Bristol is in fact... A THIEF! Anyone not jumping on the lynch now are confirmed anti-town, even the neutrals Okay, this is just confusing. I have no idea what happened there, but if both you and your investiagtor said the truth, the result is false. That's all I can say about this, as all I know is, that I am not a Thief.
TrumpetKing Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 OK, so Bristol is a thief? I think Barbara has been a pretty reliable source so far, so to be honest, I am willing to switch over my vote. Unvote: Michael (badboytje88) Vote: Bristol (Peanuts)
def Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Okay, this is just confusing. I have no idea what happened there, but if both you and your investiagtor said the truth, the result is false. That's all I can say about this, as all I know is, that I am not a Thief. Well, two others know the identity of the day investigator, so if I'm being duped, it's their neck on the line. We now have two separate parties staking their reputation on the fact that you are scum. Are you some super-townie that the scum are will to sacrifice themselves in order to take out of the game? Possible, but unlikely.
TheBoyWonder Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 I won't argue with two parties. Unvote: Michael (badboytje88) Vote: Bristol (Peanuts)
Bob Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Vote Count: Bristol / Peanuts: 8 (Scubacarrot, Rumble Strike, Nightshroud99, def, The Legonater, badboytje88, TrumpetKing67, TheBoyWonder) Michael / badboytje88: 6 (ADHO15, Sandy, Rufus, Piratedave84, Peanuts, Captain Genero) With 18 players, 10 votes are needed for a lynch. Edited February 22, 2013 by Bob
Peanuts Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 We now have two separate parties staking their reputation on the fact that you are scum. Are you some super-townie that the scum are will to sacrifice themselves in order to take out of the game? Possible, but unlikely. Can't say I am. Yeah, I have no idea what's happening right now. But I kinda like the thought that the whole scum team are scarficing themselves just to get me out of their way...
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