The Servo Showdown!

[lightningtiger]

Oh, dear.....sounds like a job for LDD !

Now do we have to really open a fresh topic for final pictures 'LCM' ?

[lightningtiger]

Wow, no posts in this for almost a day.....have I shot down my fellow combatants ?

[Electricsteam]

Wow, no posts in this for almost a day.....have I shot down my fellow combatants ?

No we have all been shot down by ER0L.... And I have just been working on the Pneumatic Locomotive projct instead of he gas station... Edited March 12, 2013 by Electricsteam

[Zed_43]

Mine is almost finished... In one day only. But it requires some more little modifications and custom stickers. I finally opted for shell...

The 32x32 limitations was a real challenge because it's quite small for a gas station!!!!

[lightningtiger]

The idea is not size but impression of something that could exist in the real world.

I wonder where are the battle master is eh ?

[timmyc1983]

I'm not sure if i'll enter or not yet.... I'm not sure if i'm going have all the bricks in time. What are the rules on modifying a Lego servo?? Mine is a mod of the Town Plan servo.. Allowed??

[Zed_43]

The idea is not size but impression of something that could exist in the real world.

I meant that dealing with this size limitation is quite hard. Especially when you have to place the shop, the pumps with ways on both sides, all the small accessories... etc... But it is also interresting to deal with it because you have to better organize your MOC!

So, it is a real challenge.

One thing I noticed, we do not have the same gas station brand depending on where we live. I.E., I never saw a caltex station... I didn't knew that firm before. I guess if I choose Elf, not so many people would have knew it...

I also noticed the pumps aren't always the same! There are some types of pump I never seen before here in france!

[Aussie BJ]

Wow, no posts in this for almost a day.....have I shot down my fellow combatants ?

IED attack AKA work (which we must do from time to time to able us to buy more L e g o!) and have had no time to even moc let alone look on here.

That your final entry LT?

The idea is not size but impression of something that could exist in the real world.

I wonder where are the battle master is eh ?

MIA......! or probably working!

Mine is almost finished... In one day only. But it requires some more little modifications and custom stickers. I finally opted for shell...

The 32x32 limitations was a real challenge because it's quite small for a gas station!!!!

Another Shell hey, will it have the 4c discount or 8c? (shopper dockets in Australia spend $30 bucks at a Supermarket (coles) and get a discount on fuel. Shell does it in Australia)

I found the limits challenging too but fun none the less. Have big plans after this contest though, for a huge one so I can go to town on the interior.

[lightningtiger]

'Zed_43' is in France so no Coles supermarkets there......I actually look forward to seeing a French petrol station design.

[Zed_43]

Yes, we do not have coles supermarket here si I don't know what's a 4c or 8c is.

What kind of gas do you have in your countries? I could think it is the same as here but not sure for everything. I guess you have gasoil/gazole and super. Sometimes we have better quality gasoil (premium, excellium... depending of the station).

Lightningtiger, If yout would like to see what a station looks like in france, just type "station elf" or "station total acces" in google images! The buildings look the same but I don't really know for the pumps (they looks a bit different than the ones we saw here on this topic!)

[SalvoBrick]

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=80473

Here's my entry, I did it just for fun, I hope you like it

[Aussie BJ]

What kind of gas do you have in your countries? I could think it is the same as here but not sure for everything. I guess you have gasoil/gazole and super. Sometimes we have better quality gasoil (premium, excellium... depending of the station).

Most service station in Australia sell Premium Unleaded ($1.65 a litre or $6 a gallon if my maths is correct), Regular Unleaded ($1.55 a litre) and Ethonal blended Unleaded ($1.45 a litre). Also Diesel and Premium Diesel plus what we call GAS in Australia or LPG.

Costs me around $90 AUD to fill up my car on Premium Unleaded which sadly I have to do every 2 weeks.

[Zed_43]

Ok, so it's the same as in France. Except the fact I never seen an ethanol pump (but I know it exists in france).

So here we have Diesel (that we call gasoil or gazole), better quality diesel, Super 95 (what you call premium unleaded), sometimes but never seen E85 (ethanol), a mix of S95-E10 (your Ethanol blended unleaded) and sometimes GPL (your LPG: which is Liquid Propan Gas)!

Do people mostly have cars running with premium or diesel in Australia?

Here people used to have cars running with premium (not unleaded). But now, people mostly runs with diesel. Especially because it's cheaper and because the government encouraged it! There are now maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 cars running with premium!

[lightningtiger]

I checked out some Elf and Total images......why not do an Elf or Total, in Australia we use to have Total service stations.....er, 50 years ago....they got brought out by AMPOL which in turn were brought out by Caltex.....which in Oz is half Australian and half USA owned.

And now by the looks of it I better either today or tomorrow post as a new topic my entry since 'SalvoBrick' has done his.

It actually would be interesting to see designs that come from each of our countries......we can all learn something.....a bricked version of Discovery Channel.

Edit - Diesel in Oz is used mainly for trucks, four wheel drives, etc., there are a handful of diesel cars...though we have a lot of converted LPG vehicles on the road since LPG is a little cheaper to buy.

Here is Oz we have Shell aligned with Coles (Wesfarmers), Caltex aligned with Woolworths, BP, Mobil rebranded either Mogas, 7-11 or On The Run (some On The Run's are actually BP). Then we have a handful of independent chains to fill any gaps in the market place.

Edited March 13, 2013 by lightningtiger

[LegoCityMann]

The Battle Master is working like Crazy. Got stuck on 3rd shift a few nights due to a sick employee. Don't worry. I am watching.

~LCM

[Zed_43]

Interresting!

Yes, LGP is really cheaper! But in france, there are not so many stations to have it... So it is quite annoying. And it has made a polemic since some firefighters are dead because of exploding LGP cars.

So in Australia, supermarkets are aligned with a specific compagny... Here, each supermarket brand have its own service station (such as carrefour have carrefour service stations...)... (But I guess you don't have any carrefour in Oz!).

Shell, bp (not many), mobil (almost none), elf, total, esso... have service station out of supermarkets. But we have almost no independant servos (they all work with a brand. Total and esso are the more prensents (there was also elf, brought by Total in 2000 and renamed Total access by the beginning of 2013).

Really interresting discussion. The brick petrole encyclopedia!!!OOh, just find a funny name BP= Brick Petroleum or Brickish Petroleum!! Ahaha lol!

And what about USA, UK, Germany, Italy, Canada, China, Japan??????

[lightningtiger]

The Battle Master is working like Crazy. Got stuck on 3rd shift a few nights due to a sick employee. Don't worry. I am watching.

~LCM

Did you write this from your foxhole ?

I'm still planning one last change right now.....I'll keep the battle posted later.

[lightningtiger]

I have posted my final shots here.......http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=80482

Good luck to my fellow combatants !

[rriggs]

And what about USA, UK, Germany, Italy, Canada, China, Japan??????

In the UK, you will find that it is pretty much the same as France. Petrol normally comes as Regular (95 octane) or Super (98 octane) with lots of different brand names out there for the Super versions. Diesel also comes as Regular or Super (with additives) and again lots of different brand names for the Super versions. A few stations have LPG but the number of them is going down as it's not popular - even though it's half the price of petrol!

Prices are roughly £1.40 per litre for regular petrol and £1.49 per litre for regular diesel. A few pence more per litre for the Super versions of each. In old money, that means we are paying up to just about £7.00 per UK gallon!! I'm glad my car averages 65mpg...

I don't know about overall, but for the last few years new car sales have been roughly equal petrol and diesel. There's also a few hybrids and electric cars knocking about but only in small numbers. All commercial vehicles (vans, trucks, buses, coaches) are diesel.

Cheers

Rog

[Aussie BJ]

Turning into quite the fuel lesson. I thought we were paying through the roof but the UK prices are amazing. Close enough to $2 aud a litre. Some of our new cars are safe to run on ethnol blended fuel (which comes from our sugar cane Industries left overs i believe) but most older cars don't run that well on it. Nearly killed my lawn mower and edger after just 1 tank.

Our racing v8 supercar series runs on E85 fuel with no problems but I have never seen it for sale. I do live in the country though.

[lightningtiger]

Well, the reason the AU price isn't $2 a litre is that we produce our own oil.....true the U.K. have the North Sea but I feel Aussie oil is cheaper to drill for.....perhaps.

[ER0L]

Not much time to work at the servo right now, so it will still take some days to finish it. Some bricks are still missing, too. Won't be able to add all the details I intended in such a short time, but well ...

However, in the meantime I've founded a new Flick group called "LEGO Gas Stations" - surprisingly there wasn't something like that, and I think it's nice to get a quick overview about a special subject this way. It's only a beginning, but I hope you'll add your servos there, too, if you have a Flickr account. There are already some nice examples in there, see http://www.flickr.co...egogasstations/

[Edit]Yesterday, I shot this photo, it's just to check dimensions and proportions, but maybe you get an impression of the whole thing:

Later this will become a part of the Garage Project, of course. [/Edit]

Edited March 14, 2013 by ER0L

[Zed_43]

In the UK, you will find that it is pretty much the same as France. Petrol normally comes as Regular (95 octane) or Super (98 octane) with lots of different brand names out there for the Super versions. Diesel also comes as Regular or Super (with additives) and again lots of different brand names for the Super versions. A few stations have LPG but the number of them is going down as it's not popular - even though it's half the price of petrol!

Prices are roughly £1.40 per litre for regular petrol and £1.49 per litre for regular diesel. A few pence more per litre for the Super versions of each. In old money, that means we are paying up to just about £7.00 per UK gallon!! I'm glad my car averages 65mpg...

I don't know about overall, but for the last few years new car sales have been roughly equal petrol and diesel. There's also a few hybrids and electric cars knocking about but only in small numbers. All commercial vehicles (vans, trucks, buses, coaches) are diesel.

Cheers

Rog

OMG!!!! The price here are roughtly the same but in euros! So it's 1,5 x the price we pay here.

I guess this difference is more due to taxes and less to local / non-local production!

And we also have diesel here for farmer, which is red because it is tax free... But we do not find it in servos, and it's forbidden to run your car with it. (it is red colored because of a dye-stuff!)

As we all have quite the same gas in our stations, I guess it will also be the case on our MOCs!

Edited March 14, 2013 by Zed_43

[rriggs]

We have red diesel too for farmers and for boats. Very illegal to use in cars and hhe polce do check for it. Vehicle confiscation, big fines and jail for abusing it.

The hgh cost is all down to cost. The base price per litre is no different to anywhere else in Europe. We pay £0.60 per litre in fuel tax and then 20% VAT (another £0.28) on top of that. That means that £0.88 out of £1.40 per litre is tax.

I'll look forward to seeing who can show the most variety of fuel types in a 32x32 entry...

I'm seriously considering joining in on this compo too this weekend. It will give me a break from the fire HQ if nothing else!

Cheers

Rog

[Aussie BJ]

Not much time to work at the servo right now, so it will still take some days to finish it. Some bricks are still missing, too. Won't be able to add all the details I intended in such a short time, but well ...

However, in the meantime I've founded a new Flick group called "LEGO Gas Stations" - surprisingly there wasn't something like that, and I think it's nice to get a quick overview about a special subject this way. It's only a beginning, but I hope you'll add your servos there, too, if you have a Flickr account. There are already some nice examples in there, see http://www.flickr.co...egogasstations/

[Edit]Yesterday, I shot this photo, it's just to check dimensions and proportions, but maybe you get an impression of the whole thing:

Later this will become a part of the Garage Project, of course. [/Edit]

Looking good can't wait to see the final product. Will join in that flickr group ASAP looks like it has a few nice ones in there already.

We have red diesel too for farmers and for boats. Very illegal to use in cars and hhe polce do check for it. Vehicle confiscation, big fines and jail for abusing it.

The hgh cost is all down to cost. The base price per litre is no different to anywhere else in Europe. We pay £0.60 per litre in fuel tax and then 20% VAT (another £0.28) on top of that. That means that £0.88 out of £1.40 per litre is tax.

I'll look forward to seeing who can show the most variety of fuel types in a 32x32 entry...

I'm seriously considering joining in on this compo too this weekend. It will give me a break from the fire HQ if nothing else!

Cheers

Rog

Yes our fuel in Australia is heavy taxed too. No such thing as red diesel here. I wonder if anyone's tried to remove the red dye? They probably have but got caught red handed.

I haven't thought of adding other fuels due to the lack of room I guess but good idea for my next project. Thanks!

I say join in the fun and have a break from that fantastic Fire Station. Just don't pull it apart for parts. I have destroyed a majority of my sons city sets looking for just the right piece he is happy though he loves playing with the servo.