Brickington Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 If you regret your vote, why don't you unvote Claire? Am I allowed to? I would if I could.
Kristel Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Am I allowed to? I would if I could. I think so. Just unvote Claire - in the correct format, as per the rules. You can also check with our esteemed teachers, who I see have just popped into the room.
LegoDad Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I feel that I may have rushed a bit in my initial vote for this day. I'm going to take a step back for a bit before anybody jumps on board with me and we possibly make a mistake again. I will: Unvote: Andrew Clark (Clanure) Going to take a nap and see what the others that have been napping think about the days events.
Darkdragon Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Bob Busch (Hammerstein NWC) - 5 votes (penalty,penalty,penalty,penalty,penalty) Mary Jane (mostlytechnic) - 1 votes (Hammerstein NWC) Claire Standish (LegoDad) - 2 votes (Brickington, Wedge09)
Tamamono Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Again, I don't think Andrew is a good candidate for expulsion today (although his behavior is pretty similar to Simone's, I townread him more for some reason. ) and it goes without saying that I currently townread Claire. Other good lynch targets are Simone/Wendy/Davey. Simone's participation has been spotty, and she generally only shows up to defend herself; Davey's behavior has been completely whacko from the get-go; and Wendy's seemed completely off all game. I almost voted her yesterday, but her sheeping of Ricky's incredibly misguided vote is the scummiest thing I've seen so far in our time here at Aperture Academy. Vote: Wendy Beamish (Wedge09) Simone/Davey are by no means clear, but I feel like Wendy is the optimal lynch for today.
Clanure Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Wow, I didn't realize that by not talking too much I would raise so many red flags. I'll try to hit the gym less and the books more. I really do have a few I'm rather suspicious of though. Not because of anything really scummy, but more because they seem contrary and argumentative. To me, this isn't enough to call them out publicly and start problems. I could certainly see black mesa being as polite as possible so as not to ruffle feathers. I'm currently debating with myself over the idea of inaction for fear of getting it wrong vs. action just for action's sake. How would people react if I (or anyone for that matter) didn't vote?
Tamamono Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I'm currently debating with myself over the idea of inaction for fear of getting it wrong vs. action just for action's sake. How would people react if I (or anyone for that matter) didn't vote? The lynch is the town's greatest weapon; there's never any reason to not vote.
Kristel Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I'm currently debating with myself over the idea of inaction for fear of getting it wrong vs. action just for action's sake. How would people react if I (or anyone for that matter) didn't vote? I think it would look bad, but I understand where you're coming from. We need to have a vote to move forward because it gives us more information to work with. But I don't want a repeat of Day 1 / Night 1. Irrespective of how it looks, you also need to consider the 5 point penalty you'll get tomorrow.
jimmynick Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Vote: Claire Standish (LegoDad) Why, you will ask. Because in my opinion you are only a distraction with your talking numbers are important and bla bla bla; secondly you said: "Bud being Town doesn't 100% surprise me, but he was so unhelpful that it didn't matter." Our goal as tonwie is to survive as many as possible and I think this is a contradiction, even if it isn't useful, it is important that he survives. It's always good for us to vote out the unhelpful people, especially the ones who are being willfully so. What do you actually mean by that? And try to explain, not quote your last post Hmm todays observations so far, not much so far but some intresting pointing fingers at each others. Gives an deja vu feeling from yesterday, nobody but the scum no whats going on and everybody accuses each other back and fort and the spies who ever they are put some fuel in the fire. this is my observations about nothing so far Ricky regretted his vote for Claire, so obviously at least two people know what's going on, and I have town reads on both of them. I definitely think Ricky would be another Bud if we expelled him. Andrew seems to be a low priority today and Simone has started contributing, so I think my suspicions have moved on. Vote: Wendy Beamish (Wedge09) Unvote: Wendy Beamish (Wedge09) I think I'll leave it for now and see what comes up soon.
Jedi master Brick Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I'm currently debating with myself over the idea of inaction for fear of getting it wrong vs. action just for action's sake. How would people react if I (or anyone for that matter) didn't vote? If we don't vote we will not have much information to go on tomorrow, which could lead to us not voting again. If we don't take the risk of voting the scum would just win on night kills.
Mencot Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Ricky regretted his vote for Claire, so obviously at least two people know what's going on, and I have town reads on both of them. I definitely think Ricky would be another Bud if we expelled him. Andrew seems to be a low priority today and Simone has started contributing, so I think my suspicions have moved on. Vote: Wendy Beamish (Wedge09) Unvote: Wendy Beamish (Wedge09) I think I'll leave it for now and see what comes up soon. What was to point in that, vote for wendy and then unvote her Day 2, actually nothing much has happened today, is it because yesterday went so badly or what And observation tells me non, nothing... if somebody has anything good please share? One thing I have noticed, a few people and always the same people seems to have something against me, have to watch these dudes little more closely over the rest of the day
badboytje88 Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Yeah you shouldn't jump on people for voting habits this early on--we've only had one vote, so it's not like you can see any pattern or anything. Well it isn't like we have got much else to go on to so yes we should look at voting paterns. Andrew is a town and I know it! Perhaps he is being a little stupid ( sorry Andrew) and doesn't understand it? How can you be so sure he is town? What was to point in that, vote for wendy and then unvote her I think she posted, changed her mind and posted again. The posts got murged. So, looking back on yesterday Bud Fox had 15 votes against him. Amoungst those there were 5 penalties. What remain are 10 people who voted for him. PsyKater, LegoDad, Fred Daniel Yam, Kristel, Tamamono, Antonio, -obelix-, Captain Nemo, Bob, jamesn, Clanure If we do not have any other leads today, I think we should focus on these 10 people and pick one of them for todays lynch. There is bound to hide at least one scumbag between these 10 lovely people! Oh and Davey, your aura clashes with mine.
Hammerstein NWC Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Why are you still basing suspicions off of roleplaying?. Psst - I'm not! I'm being me and I don't like Jocks
PsyKater Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Psst - I'm not! I'm being me and I don't like Jocks Just for that. Vote: Bob Busch (Hammerstein NWC) Start playing seriously! Is your vote based on something substantial? Then reveal it.
badboytje88 Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Psst - I'm not! I'm being me and I don't like Jocks Just for that. Vote: Bob Busch (Hammerstein NWC) Start playing seriously! Is your vote based on something substantial? Then reveal it. I have to agree with Adriano! Vote: Bob Busch (Hammerstein NWC) Though I do not think you are scum, and I will most likely unvote you within 24 hours I would like you to step up your game and base your vote on something substantial!
Kristel Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 So, looking back on yesterday Bud Fox had 15 votes against him. Amoungst those there were 5 penalties. What remain are 10 people who voted for him. PsyKater, LegoDad, Fred Daniel Yam, Kristel, Tamamono, Antonio, -obelix-, Captain Nemo, Bob, jamesn, Clanure If we do not have any other leads today, I think we should focus on these 10 people and pick one of them for todays lynch. There is bound to hide at least one scumbag between these 10 lovely people! I know we're supposed to be analysing voting patterns but I think your theory is flawed. Bud gave us a lot of reasons to vote for him. There's as much chance that Black Mesa didn't vote for him because he was self-destructing - they didn't need to do anything. Psst - I'm not! I'm being me and I don't like Jocks How is this supposed to be helpful? I'm inclined to respond in the same way that Adriano and Jeanie did.
Hammerstein NWC Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 And so the BANDwagon rolls! Be honest the only reason I'm getting votes is because of the penalty to fail to vote properly on the first day, My reasons for voting for mostlytechnic are real character reasons. I'm not sure Mary Jane is scum but I wanted people to realize the importance of vigilance! she made wildly inaccurate claims without bothering to check them. Apparently I didn't post on day 1 (in actual fact I made three posts) and although I didn't vote - I tried to vote and got the format wrong. I also openly admitted to being wrong about trying to vote for Bud Fox, but let's be honest I wasn't the only one who thought he came out the wrong side of crazy... Voting for me is entirely your own choice but the only people laughing at the end of the day will be the black mesa scum. I'm roleplaying me and just because one person wasn't smart enough to pick that up people have hopped on a voting band wagon! @Adriano So I'm being punished for roleplaying my character now? @Kristel - I'm just being in character, I can't help doing what I've been told to be. The Masters said we should stay true to our characters and yet people want me to pretend I'm something I'm not. I hope that clarifys some stuff about who I am and why I've done what I've done!
PsyKater Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 And so the BANDwagon rolls! Be honest the only reason I'm getting votes is because of the penalty to fail to vote properly on the first day, No, that is not true. As you said yourself later and as I clearly stated. We voted for you because of the missing sense in your posts. @Adriano So I'm being punished for roleplaying my character now? @Kristel - I'm just being in character, I can't help doing what I've been told to be. The Masters said we should stay true to our characters and yet people want me to pretend I'm something I'm not. I hope that clarifys some stuff about who I am and why I've done what I've done! Yes, you are. May I remind you what the Academy told us about too much roleplaying? We are supposed to roleplay but this is not the main reason why we are here. We are here to catch scum. If you are only roleplaying, then catching scum is based on what? Luck? Role-determined? Your votes have to be for a good reason. My vote was, yesterday and today as well. Now you have explained some things and I am ready to unvote: Bob Bush (Hammerstein NWC). By the by, this game class experiment is somehow special as it seems to have at least three levels: There is the meta-level where someone is supposed to be who is called "the player". There is the roleplaying level, where we all are supposed to be in a class of 1984 and have new names and everything. But in this game there is a level between these both. We are here in an experiment, and that roleplaying to be in this class is part of the experiment. This is made clear in the post, I just linked. I am moving in the second level for most of the time, just that you know. My reasons for voting for mostlytechnic are real character reasons. I'm not sure Mary Jane is scum but I wanted people to realize the importance of vigilance! she made wildly inaccurate claims without bothering to check them. What inaccurate claims are you referring to?
badboytje88 Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I know we're supposed to be analysing voting patterns but I think your theory is flawed. Bud gave us a lot of reasons to vote for him. There's as much chance that Black Mesa didn't vote for him because he was self-destructing - they didn't need to do anything. Well since there were valid reasons to vote for Bud, it IS likely the scum voted along since they would have a good reason to vote for him. Majority did. And so the BANDwagon rolls! Be honest the only reason I'm getting votes is because of the penalty to fail to vote properly on the first day, I'm roleplaying me and just because one person wasn't smart enough to pick that up people have hopped on a voting band wagon! I hope that clarifys some stuff about who I am and why I've done what I've done! I wouldn't call this a bandwagon and I've clearly stated that I will unvote you if you manage to clarify your actions. Me voting for you had nothing to do with you having penalty votes. I voted for you because your irregular behavior and your abundance of roleplaying. If something better comes up I'll unvote you but for now you still have my vote because I find you hugely annoying and downright irritating. Also we are not on the same spiritial level.
mostlytechnic Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 What inaccurate claims are you referring to? He's referring to my accusation that he never said anything on day 1. I explained earlier, but summary - saw he hadn't voted (forgot about his mis-formatted attempt). So then I used the EB search to see if he'd posted rather than re-reading all of day 1 like I should have. The search showed nothing, so I stated that he'd been inactive on day 1. When he corrected me, I apologized as asked but made some teasing comments about his band nerd-ness. At this point I'm tempted to vote for Bob. He voted for me and didn't unvote after I apologized and clarified myself. And he's voting without good cause. However, I don't want to be seen in a trend of "bandwagoning" even though I'm not, I just came to the same conclusions as others later, since I happened to be on the forum later. However, looking at things... I suspect that the list of 10 who voted for Bud contains several or even all of the scum. They saw his weakness (receiving the penalty votes) and saw an easy target to kick out. I'm more suspicious right now though of Ricky. He got the same 5 penalty votes but only received 1 other vote. Did this happen because he's scummy and they went after Bud to defend Ricky? I think perhaps. So based on that, for now, I'm saying Vote: Ricky Sanders (Brickington) although if someone can give cause against one of the anti-Bud-10, I'd be more than willing to switch. to be clear, my temptation to vote for Bob isn't because he's roleplaying (or even over-roleplaying). It's because he used the roleplaying as reason to vote. Doesn't matter that it was a vote against me (although the temptation to give a retaliatory vote is always there), it was his lack of real reason in his vote.
Brickington Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I don't no why you voted for me, I didn't even vote for Bud... Really makes you wonder about your allegiance...
Hammerstein NWC Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Unvote: MaryJane (mostlytechnic) I respect MaryJane for not going for me. My vote was based mostly on being my character and my want for people to pay attention - Mary Jane has apologised and it seems I was taking my role as a nerd a bit seriously! Mary Jane had been saying that I didn't speak or vote on day 1, which I clearly did, she admitted her mistake of not reading all the posts so it would indeed be childish for me to vote for her. In all honesty it seems a lot of people would rather just have a guess rather than vote on actual facts? I left my vote late last time because of time constraints and I really wasn't sure who to vote for bar the person who seemed the craziest, I think we all agree Bud definitely fit that bill. The problem we have is no-one seems to have any actual facts on the matter. Peoples crazy behaviour seems to be the only link? It's easy for people to misinterpret what others are saying. I think it's worth pointing out here that for a lot of us this is the first time we've been to a school like this (mafia type class) so I think that others need to bear this in mind if I/we appear to be overplaying certain aspects in their opinion. @Jeanie Bueller - If you don't think I'm scum then it probably makes more sense for you to vote for someone else? I'm not sure why you find me annoying? Is it because I'm different. As for me not being on your spiritual level the world takes all sorts of people to get along- It kinda sounds like a gut check more than a valid reason to vote for me, but given that I'm in the same boat I can't blame you for deciding I was worth a vote.. I'm not sure what else I can do to convince people for my actions? I've obviously got the "level" wrong as far as some people are concerned. Can anyone offer me any cast iron reasons to put a vote towards someone else? It seems to me that quite a few people are saying very little at the moment? Maybe suspicion should be heading towards those rather than me? I've tried to explain my reasons for my vote today (which I have rescinded) and my lack of it the day before. It seems to me, we need to be a bit careful about who we are voting for, I don't want penalty votes tomorrow for not voting but it also seems a little safer to me, to vote for someone in little danger and not risk expelling another Townie by mistake! I'm going to save my vote until I have a better idea of facts. It might mean a late vote again but how can anyone be sure? As I said above if you guys can convince me that somebody is a bit fishy then please do! I haven't received any pms so I'm feeling a little left out in the cold!
Captain Nemo Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Well so far from what I've seen Day 2 is not really giving us much. We are still grasping at empty claws and then jumping on the first person who looks at us wrong (Ergo Bob). Now we need to start taking out scum, and I still have thoughts on some people, mostly those who are overly "helpful". Vote: Claire Standish (LegoDad) I think you're Black Mesa. You seem to distract people with theories that you back up by just pointing the finger at someone. I don't see you bringing anything valuable in all the words you are posting, and I think you're just hiding behind an active mask to not come off as your actual Mesa self. I'm suspicous off all the "super-active" peoples, and I don't think that people just follow your led either.
Hammerstein NWC Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Just checking I may have formatted my unvote incorrectly. I don't want to edit my post so for accuracy sake. Unvote: Mary Jane (mostlytechnic)
LegoDad Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Well so far from what I've seen Day 2 is not really giving us much. We are still grasping at empty claws and then jumping on the first person who looks at us wrong (Ergo Bob). Now we need to start taking out scum, and I still have thoughts on some people, mostly those who are overly "helpful". Vote: Claire Standish (LegoDad) I think you're Black Mesa. You seem to distract people with theories that you back up by just pointing the finger at someone. I don't see you bringing anything valuable in all the words you are posting, and I think you're just hiding behind an active mask to not come off as your actual Mesa self. I'm suspicous off all the "super-active" peoples, and I don't think that people just follow your led either. Fortunately for myself, many others in this classroom think differently than you. You and your scummy buddies won't be able to get me off that easy. Vote: Wendy Beamish (Wedge09)
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