Locomotive Annie Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 This is My Own Train 10205-1. Yes really. Well it did start out that way; - I purchased it off Bricklink, - a slightly played with 10205-1 with no box, but with instructions, with crooked stickers and all parts present with one or two minor substitutions. It's been hanging around a while in a large clip top plastic bag waiting for me to do something with it. It came to pass that I'd decided it was time for me to learn about PF so I decided to use the MOT 10205-1 as a guinea pig, - only I didn't fancy having a steam loco with diesel trucks. Easy peasy on went eight BBB medium wheels and four sets of Technic coupling rods, and somehow it all happened from there. It began with the tender. The standard MOT tender is a poor wee underfed thing that could barely fit one 'AA' battery. I had a 9volt battery case that took 'AA' batteries so I decided to use it, basically building the 8 wide tender around the battery case and mounting it all on two four wheel trucks. An 8 wide tender needs an 8 wide cab to follow after and so it went from there. I wanted a good sized cab to act as a junction box and a place to put the PF receiver unit and the new 8 wide cab is 2 studs longer than standard not counting the roof overhang or fall plate. The boiler is 1 stud longer than standard and overall I think the loco's proportions are reasonably good. My new No: 317 looks like a Mallet, but is really a Meyer as both power bogies are fully articulated. I chickened out with trying to fit connecting rods for the present as I would like to get the loco running properly first and if it looks to be a really useful engine I'll buy a set of Zephyr's rods for it and finish everything off properly. Still a few little jobs to do such as sorting out the tender coupling and fitting the PF receiver once it arrives. The cab roof needs some more curved slopes to match the ones in the middle as I'd run out and made do with the 2x4 ones. The red bands on the domes and cylinders came about because I didn't have enough 2x2 circular plates in black so I used the red ones. It was supposed to be just a temporary fix, but now I'm thinking the red bands can stay. I've only just now realised that I'm going to need a turntable now so I'd better hurry up and finish my two road engine shed so I can do a proper survey and peg out where it's going to be put. There will be more to come with No: 317 and as I make progress I'll post more pictures and updates here. Quote
Werlu Ulcur Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 That looks very nice, Annie! You plan to put the receiver in the tender? And what is that cable that is coming from the loco? Quote
Electricsteam Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 That is so cool! I absolutley love the Locomotives you build! I can't wait to see what might you submit in the Weird and Wacky Locomotive Building Challenge! Quote
Spitfire2865 Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Nice modification. I always hated the look of 9V steamers with the trucks but you have found a beautiful solution to that. Quote
Frank STENGEL Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Really looks good. Looking forward to the tender's completion... Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 13, 2013 Author Posted March 13, 2013 That looks very nice, Annie! You plan to put the receiver in the tender? And what is that cable that is coming from the loco? Thanks Werlu The receiver may end up in either the cab or the tender depending on what works out to be the most practical solution. If I end up putting it in the tender I'm going to need to lengthen the tender some more as the battery box I'm using presently takes up the whole length of the tender. Those wires you can see in the photo are the two wiring harness leads from the PF motor bogies and I'd placed them on the tender top just for the sake of neatness. Once No: 317 is complete they will be coiled up inside the cab. That is so cool! I absolutley love the Locomotives you build! I can't wait to see what might you submit in the Weird and Wacky Locomotive Building Challenge! Thanks Electricsteam I was thinking about another steam electric for the challenge actually. This time I'd build it with a more classic appearance which should make for a fun build. Nice modification. I always hated the look of 9V steamers with the trucks but you have found a beautiful solution to that. I completely agree Spitfire. I liked the look of the 9volt steamers from the train baseplate upwards, but below the baseplate ..... meh... not so much. To tell the truth I was surprised at just how much of a transformation the BBB medium wheels made. Suddenly No: 317 looked like a proper steam loco Really looks good. Looking forward to the tender's completion... Thanks Frank Until the PF conversion is properly sorted out and everything is running properly the tender might remain a bit messy, but the plan is for there to be some kind of cover over the battery box disguised to look like a pile of coal. I'm trying out an experiment with the BBB medium wheels as I discovered it was possible to stretch the traction tyres I have for my 12volt locos over the BBB wheel rims. it's a bit of a fiddle to do, but so far the experiment looks to be promising. Quote
Frank STENGEL Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 I'm trying out an experiment with the BBB medium wheels as I discovered it was possible to stretch the traction tyres I have for my 12volt locos over the BBB wheel rims. it's a bit of a fiddle to do, but so far the experiment looks to be promising. I discovered that using the wheels without rubber gives a more realistic start: the wheels slip a bit at first and the engine slowly starts moving... Quote
Spitfire2865 Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 I discovered that using the wheels without rubber gives a more realistic start: the wheels slip a bit at first and the engine slowly starts moving... I found that in my use of BBB wheels, I didnt get much any traction. But I guess the problem isnt the wheels but the wheel arrangement. (It was a 4-6-4) Haha Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 I guess with the traction tyre thing I'll know more once I'm able to run some tests. For the moment though all eight driving wheels have traction tyres so I suppose I'll work from there. I did build a weight brick into the loco cab through and I may yet build one into the boiler. Quote
Daedalus304 Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 That's a great looking engine, Annie! The red really works well and those two-tone drivers are fantastic. Looking forward to more pictures as you post them!! Quote
Hey Joe Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Looks great, thanks for sharing. I'm looking forward to seeing the turntable and shed. Joe Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 The engine shed is half built Joe and the turntable is still being figured out in my head. It's really surprising just how many bricks an engine shed absorbs before it's done and I've had to wait for new supplies to arrive. Quote
bricks n bolts Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Concrats Annie, the medium BBB wheels are great. What motor did you use in the end? Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Concrats Annie, the medium BBB wheels are great. What motor did you use in the end? No:317 uses a pair of PF motor blocks B n B which is the easiest way to go as these MOT steam locos were originally intended to use the original 9volt motor with track electrical pickup. It's no problem to fit BBB wheels to a PF motor block. Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 i really like this build Annie Thank you, - I'm really pleased with how it turned out myself and I think it's going to work out better than I initially hoped it would. Quote
zephyr1934 Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 A nice improvement over the stock set. Personally I am fond of using the old technic connectors like you did, the studs look like grease fittings. Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 Thanks Zephyr Yes I like using those Technic connectors for exactly the same reason you said, it's just pity that they are so bulky which makes it tricky to fit in connecting rods without making the cylinder overhang too wide. Quote
Electricsteam Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Annie will you be creating new Passenger Coaches for your Locomotive? If you do you should build Double Decker Coaches! Quote
Spitfire2865 Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Annie will you be creating new Passenger Coaches for your Locomotive? If you do you should build Double Decker Coaches! Double decker coaches wouldnt look right with an articulated steamer. But it does need some type of coaches. Quote
Electricsteam Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Double decker coaches wouldnt look right with an articulated steamer. But it does need some type of coaches. Then take a look at this double decker marvel! Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 I have three coaches for No:317 to haul already. Ones based on the 1930s Express coaches that were used on New Zealand Railways for many years well into the 1970s. Quote
Locomotive Annie Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 "I don't think you're supposed to drill holes in those Olivia," said Malcolm with a sigh. Malcolm arrived from Britain this morning by Royal Mail and he is the newest member of staff on the Kotanga Tramway. He will be working to help keep the locos repaired and maintained and it's just as well he's arrived as the workshop had been getting snowed under with jobs that need doing. No:317's PF receiver has arrived so that will be installed soon and all going well I will have another really useful engine on the roster. Quote
LEGO Guy Bri Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Excellent job Locomotive Annie, I really like what you did changing out the drive wheels. I have a green and black one and always thought the stock wheels just don't look right for a steam loco Quote
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