Walter Kovacs Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 It might be true that Scouty is Town, but I doubt screaming out "I am scum!" is going to work. Trumpet tried it already, so the scum are going to be extremely wary about accepting an invitation like that. And a scummy Scouty would know the scum wouldn't bite even if he did try it. Do you try anyway? It couldn't hurt.
Fugazi Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I wouldn't say that for sure. Li'l Trumpet's little attempt at a sting yesterday may have ruined that strategy for scum, as it'll just seem like another townie trying that sting. It's a world of WIFOM out there, and perhaps Li'l Scouty could be a more convincing scum than Li'l Trumpet. Having nothing to lose and little hope of turning the vote around, he would at least try something.
Cecilie Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 It's a world of WIFOM out there, and perhaps Li'l Scouty could be a more convincing scum than Li'l Trumpet. Having nothing to lose and little hope of turning the vote around, he would at least try something. That's true. But if he's town, he's not exactly trying to help town in any way here either?
Fugazi Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 It might be true that Scouty is Town, but I doubt screaming out "I am scum!" is going to work. Trumpet tried it already, so the scum are going to be extremely wary about accepting an invitation like that. And a scummy Scouty would know the scum wouldn't bite even if he did try it. Do you try anyway? It couldn't hurt. It would be a long shot, but wouldn't it be better than nothing? At least it would keep us entertained. That's true. But if he's town, he's not exactly trying to help town in any way here either? A townie would probably be less motivated than a scum at this point to pull out a sting that already failed. I think.
Pandora Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 It's a world of WIFOM out there, and perhaps Li'l Scouty could be a more convincing scum than Li'l Trumpet. Having nothing to lose and little hope of turning the vote around, he would at least try something. Yet more WIFOM; if he tries it now, is he doing so because he's town? Even less likely the scum would approach him if they thought that, surely?
Piratedave84 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Does anyone remember that this very strategy of trying to lure the scum out as a last ditch attempt was actually discussed after/during EB I? It would be a long shot, but wouldn't it be better than nothing? At least it would keep us entertained. A townie would probably be less motivated than a scum at this point to pull out a sting that already failed. I think. I personally think that this subject has been beaten to death; so much so that it would almost be impossible to pull off at the present time; as much as we are weary of the scum, the scum are weary of us. I feel like this was discussed so much that we pretty much warned the scummos that this will be/may be attempted ... What if Scouty turns town in the morning? Then what? We turn to the accusers? It was already pointed out that Scouty tried a similar move in EB I and it got CMP and Hinck killed; it is unlikely IMO that he would try the same thing again!
CorneliusMurdock Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Are you trying to coach him to do that if he's scum so you can merge the teams, Foog? You seem like you really want it to happen.
Fugazi Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Yet more WIFOM; if he tries it now, is he doing so because he's town? Even less likely the scum would approach him if they thought that, surely? Ah the fun. If he's town and tries now, then scum will think that he's town, the town will still lynch him thinking that he's scum, and his life would be truly wasted. But it's probably too late for him to try anyway. I presume that scum would need to figure out if they can trust each other before doing whatever they must do to reunite, and there's little time left to make up their minds before the lynch is effective. Are you trying to coach him to do that if he's scum so you can merge the teams, Foog? You seem like you really want it to happen. See above, I'm only saying that this is in my opinion what he would have done had he been scum, and therefore I don't think he is. Actually, the merge would make our lives much easier, but scums' lives easier too so I'm not willing to concede them anything. I personally think that this subject has been beaten to death; so much so that it would almost be impossible to pull off at the present time; as much as we are weary of the scum, the scum are weary of us. I feel like this was discussed so much that we pretty much warned the scummos that this will be/may be attempted ... I didn't follow EB I so I'm sorry if I'm being boring. Well I guess that I will just throw in my vote and wait for something to happen... Vote: Li'l Scouty
Rick Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 See above, I'm only saying that this is in my opinion what he would have done had he been scum, and therefore I don't think he is. The post by li'l Scouty I highlighted earlier might have been his somewhat subtle attempt at contacting the other scum team.
Fugazi Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 The post by li'l Scouty I highlighted earlier might have been his somewhat subtle attempt at contacting the other scum team. It could be, I'm not sure I understand the meaning of this statement but perhaps scum can. Of course, by highlighting a potential hidden message you're making sure that scum notice it too, but I guess there's no other way to play this. Before I'm asked about it, I'm voting for Scouty even though I don't believe he's scum because 1) Voting is mandatory and I don't have a better idea at the moment; and 2) Given the tenuous lines of evidence both pro and against Scouty, I'm keeping in mind that my gut feeling could be misplaced.
Rick Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 It could be, I'm not sure I understand the meaning of this statement but perhaps scum can. Of course, by highlighting a potential hidden message you're making sure that scum notice it too, but I guess there's no other way to play this. I don't know what it means either. I just noticed it because he's repeating he sees himself as "the one who got away" and because it has some cryptic statement following it. I'm sure the scum are looking harder for signs like this, so pointing it out actually makes it less likely to be effective.
Palathadric Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 So, your opinion on him has changed from yesterday when you "didn't get a scummy vibe off him"? To me either Nightshroud or Scouty seem to be the people to vote for, but I can hardly say that I find them more scummy than anyone else here. Li'l Nightshroud has made some odd comments at the end of yesterday and today, but I can't really say I got a scummy vibe off him most of yesterday, which has started to make me hesitant. Scouty has been acting odd, but for some reason I don't really think he actually is scum. There's a certain amount of gut feeling that has to go along with the bare facts, at least for me. Normally everyone is pinging my scumdar and I am really paranoid as I see "scummy" signs everywhere, but that doesn't seem to be happening this time around. I said I haven't gotten a serious scummy vibe off anyone as of yet, so he and Scouty are the people who make the most sense to go after. I still can't say I have much hope that either one of them would turn up scum if lynched, but we have to vote at some point or other for someone or another so it makes sense to at least vote for people who have been acting a bit oddly and who have been pinging a few other people's scumdars then just random votes in the dark. That's how I see it. Perhaps Li'l Peanuts should do more "voting in the dark."
Chromeknight Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I have had an unhelpful home life. Sorry classmates. Now, coming back and reading everything, It seems the Scouty bandwagon has plenty of steam. In the absence of new information, vote:li'l Scouty
Piratedave84 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 SNIP I didn't follow EB I so I'm sorry if I'm being boring. Well I guess that I will just throw in my vote and wait for something to happen... Vote: Li'l Scouty It was actually discussed in the "afterlife" so there's really no way you would have know about it actually!!!
CorneliusMurdock Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Actually, the merge would make our lives much easier, I'm sorry, how would it make our lives easier? I think it would probably make our lives shorter. I guess if you consider living a burden your statement might be correct. If you don't think Scouty is scum, why don't you throw your vote onto someone you think is? That's the point of the game, to vote for people you think are scum. Doing anything else seems like you're just going through the motions here, Li'l Foog.
Piratedave84 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I'm sorry, how would it make our lives easier? I think it would probably make our lives shorter. I guess if you consider living a burden your statement might be correct. If you don't think Scouty is scum, why don't you throw your vote onto someone you think is? That's the point of the game, to vote for people you think are scum. Doing anything else seems like you're just going through the motions here, Li'l Foog. I missed that part of the statement ... I would LOVE to hear you (Fugazi) debate how our lives would be easier should the scum unite! grabs popcorn and waits anxiously
Fugazi Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I'm sorry, how would it make our lives easier? I think it would probably make our lives shorter. I guess if you consider living a burden your statement might be correct. Because we could communicate more freely. Because we could discuss night results. Because we could actually use night results to actually inform our lynches. Instead, we have barely anything to go on, and we have to wait for the Masons to figure things out. But you dissected my statement, for I also mentioned that it would also make scum's lives easier, and that wasn't a trade-off I was prepared to make. If you don't think Scouty is scum, why don't you throw your vote onto someone you think is? That's the point of the game, to vote for people you think are scum. Doing anything else seems like you're just going through the motions here, Li'l Foog. There's saying in my country: One doesn't teach an old monkey to make faces. I know the drill, and that's exactly what I did yesterday. Unconvinced by the evidence against Li'l Trumpet, I came up with a different name. But I had a hunch. It's still there, but I won't bother repeating my vote as I have nothing to add to yesterday's statement and there have been no other scummy tells from Li'l Nightshround. As for other suggestions, I have none and it's not for lack of going over the threads. So there, I'm going with the group because I don't see a better option right now. And I'm going to have a nap too, so I don't want the day to close without having voted. I missed that part of the statement ... I would LOVE to hear you (Fugazi) debate how our lives would be easier should the scum unite! grabs popcorn and waits anxiously See above. It would just be a normal game without the added complications of trying to prevent a merge. But it would also give rise to a super-powerful scum team, therefore it must be avoided at all costs.
Scouty Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Holy balls, the paranoia here is madening (given the set up, it's pretty understandable, but wow). You'd give me too much credit if this was me so clever as a scum...What am I to do in the face of such paranoia, such WIFOM? I foresaw this earlier and knew that it would only lead down the same, predictable, hateful path. Well, I guess there's some things you can't change, and opinions are...well, this is the internet, what'd I expect? Well, let's mop up whatever still interests me. So I just re-read Scouty's most recent posts and I am quite sad to see that as opposed to indulge his accusers and elaborate on his own theories he has choosen to defend himself ... again ... which is something he had pledged not to do ... Well, god, there is just no pleasing anybody/everybody/somebody. Faced with this from players, it's no wonder how defeatist the accused can be. I got a good morale rally from a good person, that's why I suddenly care again. Zepher, I see your little mention of Capt. Redblade (who I find a tad suspicious, he hasn't had much to say poking around). It's less a poke than your vote against me and only used the names of those said before. I feel there are other lurkers around, you don't seem to be living up to the "Crusade against the Quite Folk" that you were pushing for in the beginning. Seeing that Trumpet was right about Danny and is town, I would think lynching you is worth it. Unvote: Li'l BoyWonder Vote: Li'l Zepher That's all I have to say. Not being satisfied with Scouty's defense and hoping that he does provide us with his thoughts on other people before the end of the day, I'm going to Vote: Li'l Scouty I've heard enough from Trumpet. Lynching someone you believe to be a townie just because you think they're convertible seems like a scummy idea. Vote: Li'l Trumpetking Well, yikes, there appears to be such a strict code to which to satisfy you, too strict if you ask me. Twice you've said "not good enough" and I must accuse you as scum for that reason. Pandora, I find you suspicious. I'm flipping both ways on you, but part of me says scum. Same to Rick....and Cornelius, wouldn't surprise me if they were scum. Pandora the least, though, of these three. Hinck, so so. Foog, more open than others, votes me anyway. Hi, Cecilie! Almost didn't see you there! Well, I did, but just the right amount. Do you have a vendetta against me Scouty? I hate to say it, but if you don't give me something to answer, what the hell am I meant to do? No, it's not a vendetta, I just find your posts really lacking any substance that is new/genuine and your reasons for voting bland and weak. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but that's how I'm feeling. I feel like the more Lil'l Scouty talks, the more he is digging his own grave . So I too will I know, makes you really wonder why I quit the case against me... If you are voting for me, you're either: naieve, scum, or paranoid. A majority in the last category. But, cheers, thanks for the second chance But I'd like to remind you that there's still more than 12 hours left. Beaver boy scouts cook awesome meals. Would you want your meals cooked by this guy? I thought not.
Piratedave84 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Snip See above. It would just be a normal game without the added complications of trying to prevent a merge. But it would also give rise to a super-powerful scum team, therefore it must be avoided at all costs. These points ... actually make sense; it would indeed enable is to discuss night results openly and make better use of whatever info was gathered last night BUUUUT the trade off is clearly not worth it! We simply cannot let the scum unite this early; there is no scenario in which this would be good for us! Case closed!
Scouty Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 It's still there, but I won't bother repeating my vote as I have nothing to add to yesterday's statement and there have been no other scummy tells from Li'l Nightshround. As for other suggestions, I have none and it's not for lack of going over the threads. So there, I'm going with the group because I don't see a better option right now.Well, that's not a very wise reason, especially when the person you're voting for you think is town. If I was in your position, I'd vote for Nightshroud, not because of new evidence against him, but because I don't think the leading candidate is scum, and by going nappy with such a vote, without chance to change it, is weak, and a fright bit suspicious. In my opinion, better to vote in who I believe is most likely scum and not the guy I don't and then leave it to be. That's suspicious, in mine eyes.Also, beyond my death, I would analyze those who stayed a good distance from me. I'm sure that either all the scum avoided me or there's one or two that is enjoying strafing runs at me. The later more likely, especially now (though Danny also proves it).
Capt. Redblade Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 We haven't made any significant progress today and I think that's mainly due to the fact that we're all so very confused about Li'l Scouty. If this keeps up much longer, we won't get anywhere. I still don't know if Li'l Scouty is town or scum, but I think the issue is clouding everybody's vision and until we resolve it, I can't see us moving forward a great deal. Therefore, I will Vote: Li'l Scouty (Scouty).
def Posted March 21, 2013 Author Posted March 21, 2013 Vote Tally: Li'l Pirate Dave 4 (penalty x 4) Li'l Scouty 17 (Kiel, Nightshroud, CallMePie, Endgame, Zepher, The Boy Wonder, Walter Kovacs, Hinckley, Peanuts, PirateDave, Cornelius Murdock, Rick, Pandora, Cecilie, Fugazi, Chrome Knight, Capt. Redblade) Li'l Nightshroud 1 (Palathadric) Li'l Zepher 1 (Scouty) 15 hours left in the day.
Scouty Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 15 hours left. That's plenty of time to build a dam! And turn the vote. *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink*
Palathadric Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Those who mentioned it do have a point that if we don't lynch Scouty today we will probably always be left wondering whether he was scum or not, so it probably is better to get the matter over with so that it doesn't weigh on us in the following days. I don't feel the need to change my vote since a majority has been reached. I'll sleep off. Li'l Peanuts, stop trying to squeeze into my room with me. Be bold when you need to be, not at the wrong times.
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