On 3/24/2013 at 1:31 AM, Tamamono said:

See, it's reactions like that that make me think Andrew is town (in addition to the doc save).

Honestly, I don't know who to lynch. I'm tempted to let it go to a no lynch, really. Thoughts?

Actually, the doctor didn't get her action in on Night 2, so it may very well be that the Success comes every night.

Perhaps you are confused because you are trying to protect someone?

Your "doctor" has no action on Night 2?

How about Night 1?

Is she lying?

Is she the Black Mesa trying to confuse you?

How much to you trust your "doctor"?

  On 3/23/2013 at 4:57 PM, Tamamono said:

Yeah, I do. The doctor would be 100% dead if I were scum, and there was no kill last night, so either A. blocker blocked, or B. doctor saved. Your suspicion of me is understandable, but largely baseless.

That's a very fair point - I hadn't considered that before. But I hadn't scum-read you, so that question hadn't come to mind.

  On 3/24/2013 at 2:35 AM, Purpearljellyblob said:

Perhaps you are confused because you are trying to protect someone?

Your "doctor" has no action on Night 2?

How about Night 1?

Is she lying?

Is she the Black Mesa trying to confuse you?

How much to you trust your "doctor"?

Well thus far all we know is that this person says she protected Andrew last night. No-one seems to have said anything about a Night One protection. Last night, what I understand is that the doctor either forgot to send in the action or didn't choose someone to use the action, leaving us without a protection in the night. This could have been deliberate or accidental.

I echo the statement about trusting the doctor.

  On 3/24/2013 at 2:35 AM, Purpearljellyblob said:

Perhaps you are confused because you are trying to protect someone?

Your "doctor" has no action on Night 2?

How about Night 1?

Is she lying?

Is she the Black Mesa trying to confuse you?

How much to you trust your "doctor"?

She forgot to get her action in Night 2, and claims that she inherited her action from someone who died on Night 1. So, basically, Newton. Or maybe Bud didn't realize doctor was an important action. Either way.

As of now I trust her. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't fakeclaim doctor early on as scum, but you never know. I don't think she's scum.

I think right now I'm gonna

Vote: Shawna (Fred Daniel Yam)

As I'm pretty sure she's scum. I don't know what to make of Claire and Andrew, but I honestly think waiting a day on them might have its merits. I don't expect anyone to sheep me, but if you did that'd be cool. It's either this or no lynch, unless everyone in town wants to rise up against Andrew/Claire, which I can't stop, obviously.

Power to the people I guess?

Vote: Andrew Clark (Clanure)

I'm gonna vote for Clark because that's what my conclusion was regarding the messy result from our last lynch and Claire outed him.

As for you, Cameron, care to tell me/us why you're pretty sure I'm scum?

  On 3/24/2013 at 4:20 AM, jamesn said:

That's a very fair point - I hadn't considered that before. But I hadn't scum-read you, so that question hadn't come to mind.

Well thus far all we know is that this person says she protected Andrew last night. No-one seems to have said anything about a Night One protection. Last night, what I understand is that the doctor either forgot to send in the action or didn't choose someone to use the action, leaving us without a protection in the night. This could have been deliberate or accidental.

I echo the statement about trusting the doctor.

Wait so the doctor did not use/forgot her night action for BOTH Night 2 and Night 3? Can you please clarify that?

Well, from what I see you seemed to be the only person speaking up for Cameron at this stage.

You also seemed to know a lot as to what happened last night.

And do you belong to Claire and CO.?

And why are you answering my questions for Cameron?

Are you afraid Cameron might say something?

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I have been observing your voting patterns and Day thread behaviour and it seemed to me that ever since Claire got the investigator's result on Simone, you have been pretty enthusiastic.

Your Day threads behaviour and voting patterns suggests to me that you are part of the Claire and Co.

And you have been one of the first to push/support the group's actions.

You also seemed to speak up for the people in Claire and Co.

From the Day threads, no one mentions about you in their group, which makes it scummy because you might be a scum trying to fly under the radar.

Even if you are in their group, your behaviour seems suspicious to me.

Are you the puppet master controlling Claire and Co.? Which makes you scummy?

Vote: Allison Reynolds (jamesn)

  On 3/24/2013 at 6:33 AM, Fred Daniel Yam said:

Vote: Andrew Clark (Clanure)

I'm gonna vote for Clark because that's what my conclusion was regarding the messy result from our last lynch and Claire outed him.

As for you, Cameron, care to tell me/us why you're pretty sure I'm scum?

it seems that he is trying to take suspicio of andrew and there is no other logical explanation for that, they are the same CO.

But Cameron care to explain?

I tend to vote for Andrew, but I am still hesitant. If he turns up town we are really, really screwed up.

  On 3/24/2013 at 5:14 AM, Tamamono said:

Vote: Shawna (Fred Daniel Yam)

As I'm pretty sure she's scum. I don't know what to make of Claire and Andrew, but I honestly think waiting a day on them might have its merits. I don't expect anyone to sheep me, but if you did that'd be cool. It's y this or no lynch, unless everyone in town wants to rise up against Andrew/Claire, which I can't stop, obviously.

Power to the people I guess?

Vote: Shawna (Fred Daniel Yam)

Not going to sheep, but I am going to vote along with you since I want to give Clair and Andrew another day.

Vote: John Bender (Antonio)

I am voting for John again because of his inactivity and when he does post his does not provide anything useful.

I will be holding back my vote for Claire and Andrew. That doesn't mean you guys are off my radar, I just want to make sure no Townies get voted out. I know you guys have a big target on your back, lucky there isn't a bandwagon, that would be impulsive.

  On 3/24/2013 at 5:14 AM, Tamamono said:

She forgot to get her action in Night 2, and claims that she inherited her action from someone who died on Night 1. So, basically, Newton. Or maybe Bud didn't realize doctor was an important action. Either way. As of now I trust her. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't fakeclaim doctor early on as scum, but you never know. I don't think she's scum. I think right now I'm gonna Vote: Shawna (Fred Daniel Yam) As I'm pretty sure she's scum. I don't know what to make of Claire and Andrew, but I honestly think waiting a day on them might have its merits. I don't expect anyone to sheep me, but if you did that'd be cool. It's either this or no lynch, unless everyone in town wants to rise up against Andrew/Claire, which I can't stop, obviously. Power to the people I guess?

I am certain I won't be trusting this Protector if I were you.

"She forgot to get her action in Night 2, and claims that she inherited her action from someone who died on Night 1."

Seriously?

That protector or whoever you have been talking to, seemed scummy to me.

Either you have been trying to confuse us with all these lies or you have been brainwashed.

Please convince me.

Vote: Cameron Frye (Tamamono)

Unvote: Andrew Clark (Clanure)

There's still time left for me to think on this matter.

  On 3/24/2013 at 6:37 AM, Purpearljellyblob said:

Wait so the doctor did not use/forgot her night action for BOTH Night 2 and Night 3? Can you please clarify that?

You also seemed to know a lot as to what happened last night.

Are you the puppet master controlling Claire and Co.? Which makes you scummy?

No - I simply mistyped that. Stupid mistake. I meant Night Two, not last night. I don't know anything about last night other than what we've heard about this doctor protecting Andrew. As for Night Two: I restated what Cameron told me in PM (I only PMed him because today's day thread had gone awfully quiet). I have had a PM going with Claire since Day One, but we haven't talked about that very much. It's from what I get in PM that I think Claire is town (and that's why I defend Claire), but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.

To reiterate: I know Andrew is the claimed investigator because Cameron and Claire said as much in this thread. I know that the doctor says she protected Andrew last night because that's what Cameron said in this thread. I know the doctor failed to have an action on Night Two because of what Cameron said in this thread and in a quick PM to me (I first talked to him halfway through the day today). The only person in "Claire and Co." I have talked to for a long time is Claire, and there hasn't been any strategy formulation in that. I do not count myself as in "Claire and Co."

Of course I was enthusiastic when Claire's investigator (now Andrew) got a scum result on Simone. Everyone was. We wanted to catch a scum. And that failed, so we need to fix it.

It's great that you want to catch scum, but you're going the wrong way.

And with that, I

Vote: Andrew Clark (Clanure)

Because someone in "Claire and Co.", as people call it, is lying, and I don't think it's Claire. It might be Cameron's doctor, but we don't have a name to go by with her (him? I don't know).

I don't really like how people are assuming members of our block were "controlled" by anyone. All of the talk was cooperative. Anything that anybody wanted done or had a question with was run by several people for thoughts. It wasn't like I was telling people what to do, or Andrew was, or Cameron was. There were other members as well, don't just assume I was talking to only 2 people here. I felt, and still feel, that they are all town. Honestly, I'm not so sure that Andrew is scum, even with the results that were given, hence, why you haven't seen me jump on ship to vote him off.

My reasoning on the others is this, if Cameron was scum and Andrew wasn't, Andrew would be dead. Also, if the Protector is true and Cameron was scum, the Protector would be dead as well, unless he's making him up, which seems doubtful. The only way I see Andrew being scum is if they knew somehow there wasn't an Investigator or that they had killed them, thus being able to act as one. It would be incredibly ballsy to act as a power role with the possibility of someone else calling your bluff. Same with Cameron and the Protector, making him up would be highly unlikely for the same reasons.

Also, Allison is correct in what she is saying about our talks, deep strategy was never involved because I had never 100% cleared her, so no names were ever given, sorry Allison, but I had to be safe with what I knew.

  On 3/24/2013 at 6:37 AM, Purpearljellyblob said:

Wait so the doctor did not use/forgot her night action for BOTH Night 2 and Night 3? Can you please clarify that?

Doctor's actions:

Night 1: No action (she didn't have the role yet)

Night 2: Protect me (didn't get it in in time )

Night 3: Protect Andrew (Success!)

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Vote: Allison Reynolds (jamesn)

Allison seems town to me for now, I don't think she's a good lynch.

  On 3/24/2013 at 7:27 AM, Mencot said:

it seems that he is trying to take suspicio of andrew and there is no other logical explanation for that, they are the same CO.

But Cameron care to explain?

Yeah, I'm trying to take the lynch off Andrew because I think it'd be better to wait and see if we can't verify him rather than to lynch him straightup and possibly lose our cop.

  On 3/24/2013 at 8:58 AM, Jedi master Brick said:

Vote: John Bender (Antonio)

I am voting for John again because of his inactivity and when he does post his does not provide anything useful.

Unvote: Shawna (Fred Daniel Yam)

Vote: John Bender (Antonio)

Shawna's last post was a towntell.

  On 3/24/2013 at 3:04 PM, LegoDad said:

I don't really like how people are assuming members of our block were "controlled" by anyone. All of the talk was cooperative. Anything that anybody wanted done or had a question with was run by several people for thoughts. It wasn't like I was telling people what to do, or Andrew was, or Cameron was. There were other members as well, don't just assume I was talking to only 2 people here. I felt, and still feel, that they are all town. Honestly, I'm not so sure that Andrew is scum, even with the results that were given, hence, why you haven't seen me jump on ship to vote him off.

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So you and your "group" have been working together since the start and have not been controlled by anyone. Your group seems to have overseen the majority of the lynchings and look how well that's gone.

Does that sound fishy to anyone else?

How do you know anyone in your group is telling the truth? Answer you don't! Look at How well things have gone so far.

Makes me mad to hear that there seems to be a group out there deciding who is town and yet so far all they have done is put us in the toilet repeatedly nominating town.

Claire I think you need to face some acts, it seems to me tat you jst haven't realised that someone in your group is probably scum and they are controlling you so cleverly you don't realise it.

I don't expect anyone to respond to this as my posts seem to fall on death ears unless I make some sort of mistake, my last post was totally ignored by all.

Damn autocorrect.

That should have read:

Claire I think you need to face some facts, it seems to me that you just haven't realised that someone in your group is probably scum and they are controlling you so cleverly you don't realise it.

Somebody is lying, Cameron, Andrew, Claire chain

And what is this voting first on Shawna then changing vote on John when somebody else also voted for him

I don´t know anything about John, he has been awfully quiet the couple days.. but I have no reas on him

But I am going to vote on one of the "chain liars" to see if their head can be turned with that

but not Claire this time nor Andrew but I may be villing to change my vote if needed

Vote: Cameron Frye (Tamamono)

Bob, I agree with you 100% - there's definitely something fishing in that group (I'm defining the group here as Claire, Andrew, and Cameron.

Things need to start moving, and so far the one I trust the least is

Vote: Andrew Clark (Clanure)

Cameron is second in my scum list, and Claire a distant third. Right now though I think she's just being used to lead the town astray.

If someone could give reason (or even just if needed to get a expulsion rather than nothing) I'd be ok switching my vote to Cameron. For now I'll stick with Andrew though.

  On 3/24/2013 at 7:43 PM, Mencot said:

Somebody is lying, Cameron, Andrew, Claire chain

And what is this voting first on Shawna then changing vote on John when somebody else also voted for him

I don´t know anything about John, he has been awfully quiet the couple days.. but I have no reas on him

But I am going to vote on one of the "chain liars" to see if their head can be turned with that

but not Claire this time nor Andrew but I may be villing to change my vote if needed

Vote: Cameron Frye (Tamamono)

I stated why I changed from Shawna; she towntold.

Also, you're obviously not reading anything I've said: if I were scum both the doctor and Andrew would be long gone by now. Read before you vote.

Burton, why didn't you answer my questions yet? Everyone did but you.

Brian, why did it last so long until you answered my questions? Why are you so uncooperative?

I vote: Burton Guster (Jedi master Brick)

Answer and I will vote for Brian.

You all. Remember that only 6 hours are left in the day. We will have to convict someone. Of the current alternatives, I'd tend to Antonio or Andrew. But I tend to give Andrew one more day, to prove if he is telling the truth.

The blocker results would still give us pretty much to go with thats why I hope he/she will find someone to trust.

  On 3/24/2013 at 7:50 PM, Tamamono said:

I stated why I changed from Shawna; she towntold.

Also, you're obviously not reading anything I've said: if I were scum both the doctor and Andrew would be long gone by now. Read before you vote.

yes, I feel that shawna is also town.

And yes I have read all your posts, first you and andrew still act and are all buddy buddy, so I think you are both lying scum.Second there is something fishy about your doctor.

So if that was all you had to come with, it wasn't enough to change my mind

  On 3/24/2013 at 6:34 PM, Tamamono said:

Allison seems town to me for now, I don't think she's a good lynch.

  On 3/24/2013 at 2:08 PM, jamesn said:

No - I simply mistyped that. Stupid mistake. I meant Night Two, not last night. I don't know anything about last night other than what we've heard about this doctor protecting Andrew. As for Night Two: I restated what Cameron told me in PM (I only PMed him because today's day thread had gone awfully quiet). I have had a PM going with Claire since Day One, but we haven't talked about that very much. It's from what I get in PM that I think Claire is town (and that's why I defend Claire), but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.

To reiterate: I know Andrew is the claimed investigator because Cameron and Claire said as much in this thread. I know that the doctor says she protected Andrew last night because that's what Cameron said in this thread. I know the doctor failed to have an action on Night Two because of what Cameron said in this thread and in a quick PM to me (I first talked to him halfway through the day today). The only person in "Claire and Co." I have talked to for a long time is Claire, and there hasn't been any strategy formulation in that. I do not count myself as in "Claire and Co."

Of course I was enthusiastic when Claire's investigator (now Andrew) got a scum result on Simone. Everyone was. We wanted to catch a scum. And that failed, so we need to fix it.

It's great that you want to catch scum, but you're going the wrong way.

And with that, I

Vote: Andrew Clark (Clanure)

Because someone in "Claire and Co.", as people call it, is lying, and I don't think it's Claire. It might be Cameron's doctor, but we don't have a name to go by with her (him? I don't know).

Allison, have you been in contact with Craig?

  On 3/24/2013 at 8:01 PM, PsyKater said:

Brian, why did it last so long until you answered my questions? Why are you so uncooperative?

I have to rent a jet plane to come to the Academy just to reply to this message. As to your questions, I live pretty far away from the Academy, and it takes time to travel. For most of the time, due to time difference, everyone has already left by the time I reach the Academy, or I am just plain late. I am sorry I did not answer your questions in time. As least I answered.

  On 3/24/2013 at 8:38 PM, Mencot said:

yes, I feel that shawna is also town.

And yes I have read all your posts, first you and andrew still act and are all buddy buddy, so I think you are both lying scum.Second there is something fishy about your doctor.

So if that was all you had to come with, it wasn't enough to change my mind

So I shouldn't act all "buddy buddy" with someone who I think is town? By your logic, I should be constantly paranoid of everyone at every moment. We won't get anything done if we don't give one another at least temporary trust.

And I don't see what's so "fishy" about her; I believe that she's the real thing.

Plus, if you think the doctor is "fishy", why are you voting for me? I'm not the doctor, I'm just the messenger. Nothing you've said in relation to my affiliation has made any sense whatsoever.

I've been quiet for a bit and reviewing what has been said over the course of the day and I stumbled upon something:

Why haven't we heard more from Chuckie (-obelix-)?

He's only spoken once today and didn't say too much. Does anybody else have any sort of read on him?

Burton and Brian are also not too talkative today. If I make it through the day, I'll have to look into it.

I think my gut is leading me towards:

Vote: John Bender (Antonio)

As always, if something develops in the last few hours I'm willing to change my vote.

  On 3/24/2013 at 8:41 PM, Purpearljellyblob said:

Allison, have you been in contact with Craig?

Good question.

  On 3/24/2013 at 8:41 PM, Purpearljellyblob said:

I have to rent a jet plane to come to the Academy just to reply to this message. As to your questions, I live pretty far away from the Academy, and it takes time to travel. For most of the time, due to time difference, everyone has already left by the time I reach the Academy, or I am just plain late. I am sorry I did not answer your questions in time. As least I answered.

I am not talking about timezones. I take them into account. But you read my message and waited over an hour to answer after that. Enough time to talk to scum buddies and discussing on how to react.

I'd love to have a vote tally. I somebody would have the time...

Otherwise I will try in some minutes.

  On 3/24/2013 at 6:34 PM, Tamamono said:

Doctor's actions:

Night 1: No action (she didn't have the role yet)

Night 2: Protect me (didn't get it in in time )

Night 3: Protect Andrew (Success!)

Doctor's actions:

Night 1: No action (she didn't have the role yet) -> Seriously, you believe that?

Night 2: Protect me (didn't get it in in time ) -> And you believe that too?

Night 3: Protect Andrew (Success!) -> Ever heard of the story of Boy that Cried Wolf?

I think you are a Town being brainwashed by some hypnotic scum.

I will:

Unvote: Cameron Frye (Tamamono)