10179 UCS Millenium Falcon

[Sweden]

copmike

Yeah, I bet they will. Anyway. The way it works is that LEGO Shop at Home checks your card/bank account for some reason. Either to see if the card/bank account actually exists or if you actually got money. Then they reserve the amount of the order, but it's not drawn from your card/bank account, for say around three days until it's un-reserved again and you can use the money. Pretty stupid business practice if you ask me but that's how they do it. No other company I've done business with use these methods.

Then when LEGO Shop at Home eventually can ship the item(s) when they're in stock they'll charge your card/bank account for real. But if you don't have the money they can't charge you and you'll be notified by e-mail. Then you got a few days to make sure you got the money available. If you don't they'll cancel the order. To me at least it's a real hustle. Usually a company accept your pre-order without this type of weird business pratice and only charge you when the item actually is available. But TLC is TLC and does it the other way around.

Sweden - The One... And Only.

[popkids]

It's a shame if there's not going to be an interior, but as long as there's plenty of room to MOC one, that's fine by me. The cockpit was always the main reason I held back from buying the Falcon in the past, and covering it might be a bit tricky if the transparent parts don't exist to do the job. But if this a display model, might there not be a canopy in the finished set? BTW, I love the shots of those guys gazing rapt at the model, while simultaneously preparing to take pictures of it. They're in love *wub*

[Sweden]

About no interior in this UCS model

What's with all this talk that it's a shame that there's no interior in this model? Doesn't people understand why there's no interior? Seems so. This has been brought up with both the Rebel Blockade Runner and the Imperial Star Destroyer and people have complained. Why is there no interior? The answer is quite simple. Just look at the UCS Millennium Falcon once again.

It's huge. It has complex shapes. There's the answer.

Don't understand? Okay, I'll explain.

For a model this huge there need to be a strong armature to keep it together. A strong armature takes a whole lot of room inside the model itself. The original design a.k.a. the original filming miniature has really complex shapes. It's here the second purpose of the armature comes in. The UCS Millennium Falcon is built around this armature just like the UCS Imperial Star Destroyer. The armatures second purpose is to make it possible to do all these complex shapes as they hook onto the armature. Hence no interior. But people doesn't seem to understand all this. It's designed the way I thought about doing my MOC one years ago.

Sure, people can try and MOC one into the model and I'll say good luck. In order to fit a interior into the model you basically got to remove all or parts of the armature. Then you'll have a model that you'll have to design a totally different type of armature for. Good luck with that and then try and keep the whole ship together and look as good as we're getting it out of the box. Sure, there are some MOCs out there that has done all this but are they as good as 10179 and do they have the same type of armature? Nope. They don't. Then again 10179 with a interior would probably be just as bad and just as poorly designed as the interior of 6211 Imperial Star Destroyer.

Has anyone for example seen a UCS Rebel Blockade Runner with a "real" interior? I sure haven't.

This UCS Millennium Falcon sure was a great surprise even if it's way too expensive and out of reach for the most of the ones who wants it. It's scaled to the mini figures, and there's a cockpit for them, but still it's a UCS model so expecting a interior in it is just wishful thinking. Imagine the cost of a one with a interior. No, it's clearly designed as a model, even if it's scaled to the mini figures, and UCS models has always been about the outside and not the inside so it's no play set at all. Sure, you can swoosh it, God how I hate that silly term as I can imagine some running around swooshing in their underwear, but who in their right mind would do that and risk dropping it on the floor? I wouldn't. It'll be for display only. Interior or not you fan boys should be happy that it's scaled to the mini figures at least. Even I think that it's a bit cool as I actaully suggested such models way back in the days when intelligent discussions were possible at FBTB.

I'm pre-ordering one in the next couple of days. But it'll hurt my wallet. Oh well.

Sweden - The One... And Only.

[UltraPrime]

I ordered it today, and what happened? Card declined! Thinking it won't be charged till October, queried TLC. I was informed that the amount is reserved for two weeks! That is ridiculous!

[casewindu]

I ordered it today, and what happened? Card declined! Thinking it won't be charged till October, queried TLC. I was informed that the amount is reserved for two weeks! That is ridiculous!

as i said to copmike sue them and you might get a few golden c3pos!(if you do give me one because i thought of the idea ;-) )

[Chuck]

as i said to copmike sue them and you might get a few golden c3pos!(if you do give me one because i thought of the idea ;-) )

I'd rather get money than a golden C-3P0. Anyways, what could you possibly sue TLG for? X-D

Btw, Welcome back Sweden!

-l2k-

[Sweden]

UltraPrime

That's probably because there wasn't funds on your account. But I seriously doubt that it's legal for LEGO Shop at Home to reserve it for two weeks. Three days approxmately I've heard of and experienced myself. Anyway. It's really bad business practice as they won't ship it until October. Really bad.

casewindu

At least he could report them to the BBB - Better Business Buro (did I spell that right?) for faul play.

lego2000

I'll be (village of the) damned! Well, thank you! Are you trying to sweet talk me? ;-)

Sweden - The One... And Only.

[Scouty]

We don't want TLC out of the picture guys! Just a money back request is all that is needed!

[OOM-9]

I just thought I'd let everyone know that this wonderful set is #2 in the top 25 US on Shop at Home! Only the droids battle pack stands in the way of the MF. (In only 3 days too.)

[The Kid]

Bah. Looks crap. |-/

TK

:-P

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Bah. Looks crap. |-/

TK

:-P

The MF does? Wow, first person I heard said that.

-ZotS

[oo7]

He was being sarcastic. Thus the :-P .

EDIT: Our dear MF is now the US second best seller. *wacko*

[mutley777]

Looking at this pic it looks like my one fear for this set was unjustified. The radar dish looks like it's a printed part :-P

[Scouty]

It's great, a printed part, that is. No stupid sticker to apply, especially in this oval dish!

[CopMike]

Hi Sweden - I missed your long detailed inputs on different issues *sweet*!

I agree with you about the exterior/interior of the UCS models. It

[Dark Brick]

Hi Sweden - I missed your long detailed inputs on different issues *sweet*!

I agree with you about the exterior/interior of the UCS models. It

[5150 Lego]

goodness. Nearly 3 feet long, and 2 feet wide. Heck i'm more enterested in where people are going to be putting this behemoth than a set review. :-D

[snefroe]

About no interior in this UCS model

What's with all this talk that it's a shame that there's no interior in this model? Doesn't people understand why there's no interior? Seems so. This has been brought up with both the Rebel Blockade Runner and the Imperial Star Destroyer and people have complained. Why is there no interior? The answer is quite simple. Just look at the UCS Millennium Falcon once again.

It's huge. It has complex shapes. There's the answer.

Don't understand? Okay, I'll explain.

For a model this huge there need to be a strong armature to keep it together. A strong armature takes a whole lot of room inside the model itself. The original design a.k.a. the original filming miniature has really complex shapes. It's here the second purpose of the armature comes in. The UCS Millennium Falcon is built around this armature just like the UCS Imperial Star Destroyer. The armatures second purpose is to make it possible to do all these complex shapes as they hook onto the armature. Hence no interior. But people doesn't seem to understand all this. It's designed the way I thought about doing my MOC one years ago.

Sure, people can try and MOC one into the model and I'll say good luck. In order to fit a interior into the model you basically got to remove all or parts of the armature. Then you'll have a model that you'll have to design a totally different type of armature for. Good luck with that and then try and keep the whole ship together and look as good as we're getting it out of the box. Sure, there are some MOCs out there that has done all this but are they as good as 10179 and do they have the same type of armature? Nope. They don't. Then again 10179 with a interior would probably be just as bad and just as poorly designed as the interior of 6211 Imperial Star Destroyer.

Has anyone for example seen a UCS Rebel Blockade Runner with a "real" interior? I sure haven't.

This UCS Millennium Falcon sure was a great surprise even if it's way too expensive and out of reach for the most of the ones who wants it. It's scaled to the mini figures, and there's a cockpit for them, but still it's a UCS model so expecting a interior in it is just wishful thinking. Imagine the cost of a one with a interior. No, it's clearly designed as a model, even if it's scaled to the mini figures, and UCS models has always been about the outside and not the inside so it's no play set at all. Sure, you can swoosh it, God how I hate that silly term as I can imagine some running around swooshing in their underwear, but who in their right mind would do that and risk dropping it on the floor? I wouldn't. It'll be for display only. Interior or not you fan boys should be happy that it's scaled to the mini figures at least. Even I think that it's a bit cool as I actaully suggested such models way back in the days when intelligent discussions were possible at FBTB.

I'm pre-ordering one in the next couple of days. But it'll hurt my wallet. Oh well.

Sweden - The One... And Only.

hm... i agree , adding an interior means you're going to have to redisign the basic structure, sure that's a challenge, but it doesn't rule out the possibility of having a good interior. You probably wouldn't swoosh it around, but this model is supposed to be a display model, not a model with high playability, so it doesn't have to have the structural strength to swoosh around... Compare it, if you will, with a traditional model kit, let's say an F-4 on 1/48th scale, brilliantly painted in Navy colors on the outside but without any cockpit what so ever. I'd say most fans would seriously object to that...

I don't think the Blockade Runner or the ISD have anything to do with this discussion. Both models are microscaled, it wouldn't make sense to turn those into models for minifigs, contrary to the MF. I know, Lego did , but then they're notorious for taking weird decisions...

[mutley777]

fbtb main page has 2 short videos of the movement of the gun turret 8-

[Scouty]

The gun turret movement is very smooth!! THat's awsome! Thanks for the link mutley!

[CopMike]

Sne:

Compare it, if you will, with a traditional model kit, let's say an F-4 on 1/48th scale, brilliantly painted in Navy colors on the outside but without any cockpit what so ever.

Hm, I wonder why the F4 as example ;-)?

I agree that if we don

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Is it really too scale? Seems a little too... big. :-/

-ZotS

[Scouty]

I would say so. It does seem to fit the size. The Millenium falcon is a pretty big ship. I heard they started from the cockpit and then built everything else base off of that.

[Starwars4J]

I'm just annoyed that the cockpit is completely sealed off from the body...just like in every other rendition of the MF |-/

[5150 Lego]

About no interior in this UCS model

What's with all this talk that it's a shame that there's no interior in this model? Doesn't people understand why there's no interior? Seems so. This has been brought up with both the Rebel Blockade Runner and the Imperial Star Destroyer and people have complained. Why is there no interior? The answer is quite simple. Just look at the UCS Millennium Falcon once again.

It's huge. It has complex shapes. There's the answer.

Don't understand? Okay, I'll explain.

For a model this huge there need to be a strong armature to keep it together. A strong armature takes a whole lot of room inside the model itself. The original design a.k.a. the original filming miniature has really complex shapes. It's here the second purpose of the armature comes in. The UCS Millennium Falcon is built around this armature just like the UCS Imperial Star Destroyer. The armatures second purpose is to make it possible to do all these complex shapes as they hook onto the armature. Hence no interior. But people doesn't seem to understand all this. It's designed the way I thought about doing my MOC one years ago.

Sure, people can try and MOC one into the model and I'll say good luck. In order to fit a interior into the model you basically got to remove all or parts of the armature. Then you'll have a model that you'll have to design a totally different type of armature for. Good luck with that and then try and keep the whole ship together and look as good as we're getting it out of the box. Sure, there are some MOCs out there that has done all this but are they as good as 10179 and do they have the same type of armature? Nope. They don't. Then again 10179 with a interior would probably be just as bad and just as poorly designed as the interior of 6211 Imperial Star Destroyer.

Has anyone for example seen a UCS Rebel Blockade Runner with a "real" interior? I sure haven't.

Sweden - The One... And Only.

looks like this guy figured out how to build an intereior...

http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/eurofo...?showtopic=8197

I'd love to see this when complete.