Strikin' Venom Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Anyway, this conversation should go in "General Bionicle Discussion" :-D
Darkness Falls Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 That's generalization, and that, my friend, is very bad when you are talking about a forum of over 30000 members. Seriously, I doubt a third of the regular members even look at the sprite comics in Artwork 3 at all! The random humor of most sprite comics appeals to the younger members, but not to the older members, which there are quite a few of.Truly, I am getting sick of all the generalization and factual opinions creeping up around the "good" ship eurobricks. Many members word their posts like their opinions are fact, and everybody believes them. Not to be pointing fingers, but I do wish that all the members here could respect Double T's statement: Note that it very well is possible that everybody here already respects that. ;-) Ah, yes... but you see, I know exactly who I'm talking about, so there's no need to scold me about making generalizations. You think I've been on that site for three years and made labelled every member as an idiot? No, I've studied the members and I know who is mature and who isn't. Second, that comment, in every way, was meant to be a joke. I was making an observation upon how most of the sprite comics that fill the third Artwork Forum are generally poor in quality and humor. Many mature members have even started the over repetitive jokes that are seen throughout. I'm sorry if it didn't come off that way and apologize. I do not believe my statements are facts, but I'll voice what I think. Finally, you seem to have a dignified air to yourself, and you support this by refraining from venomous comments and milking your title as a Eurobricks member. I came to this site to get away from the ridiculous ideas BZP supports, and I think that this is a fine website indeed, filled with intelligent members. But don't think that you can insult my intelligence by stating "facts" I already am well aware of. Now, I'd like to keep this void of any more BZPower comments, so I will post upon the subject no more. I see how they are treated and do not want to be frowned at by the members of this forum.
Zarkan Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Finally, you seem to have a dignified air to yourself, and you support this by refraining from venomous comments and milking your title as a Eurobricks member. I came to this site to get away from the ridiculous ideas BZP supports, and I think that this is a fine website indeed, filled with intelligent members. But don't think that you can insult my intelligence by stating "facts" I already am well aware of. I don't mean to come across as dignified at all, Darkness. I just believe that if you wouldn't say something directly in front of the person, then you shouldn't say it at all. Secondly, in many ways I believe that BZP is either better than eurobricks, or has a perfect reason to do the things they do. Why exactly is BZP's ideas so ridiculous? But, nobody answer that question. Because, basically, I don't think I will post here any more, ever again. I've been batlling my conscience for a while about whether I should even come here any more, and now I believe that I have had enough. I'm leaving, and I sometimes wonder why I ever joined Eurobricks, since it seems all we ever due here is argue, insult people, and dissagree (note that this is a generalization, and also MY opinion). Enough is enough for me. Note: Please, nobody respond to this post. I won't be around to talk about this any more, so don't waste words on me.
Kynok Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Why in the world are people so offended by other people's opinion? You can't make other people think what you are thinking. It really isn't a big deal that some people like BZP, or BIONICLE, and some don't. You don't make someone feel bad in what they believe in. Its not worth it. I value this forum for the reason that there is so much heated disscusion. I enjoy coming here more than I do BZP... But thats my opinion. I feel GregF is a great writer, but we need fresh writers for BIONICLE. But that's my opinion. I love every BIONICLE set that comes out, and I can't live without not buying one. But that's my opinion. Now, that's how I feel. You could raise a debate by stating your opinion, and arguing, in a respectfull way, why that's your opinion. Then I could debate back. All in all, we'd either agree on something, or agree to disagree. No reason why we should be offended, or why we should offend. Lets just all enjoy each other's opinion, have good clean debates, and move on. Thats what a forum is all about. *sweet*
Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Im with Kynok; It really should be noted that the reason that there are no real heated arguments or debates on BZP is because A: Damn near all of the oldguard, such as myself, have either left or dont care anymore B: Most of the current readership has the same opinion "Greg Rulez!111 BIONICLE R T3H FTW!11" 3: Anything that approaches a real heated debate is killed by the mods because it will most likely not be handled in a mature way. I come here for the same reason as Kynok; the community is much smaller, much more personal, and, on average, much more intelligent. But also as Kynok said, that is MY OPINION. I like it here because I can have a real discussion with good people.
Darkness Falls Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 I don't mean to come across as dignified at all, Darkness. I just believe that if you wouldn't say something directly in front of the person, then you shouldn't say it at all.Secondly, in many ways I believe that BZP is either better than eurobricks, or has a perfect reason to do the things they do. Why exactly is BZP's ideas so ridiculous? But, nobody answer that question. Because, basically, I don't think I will post here any more, ever again. I've been batlling my conscience for a while about whether I should even come here any more, and now I believe that I have had enough. I'm leaving, and I sometimes wonder why I ever joined Eurobricks, since it seems all we ever due here is argue, insult people, and dissagree (note that this is a generalization, and also MY opinion). Enough is enough for me. Note: Please, nobody respond to this post. I won't be around to talk about this any more, so don't waste words on me. ...GRAMMAR HAMMER! As in, " ..smites you for using such horrible spelling." Seriously... don't be a hypocrite, it's bad for you! And you've pretty much set yourself up for people replying to you because you didn't want replies. I find BZP's ideas of Moderation, Popularity, and Social Structure to extremely simple-minded. I once asked why an admin could have a picture of a political figure in his signature and I could not (Forum rules), and he simply replied, "Because I'm an admin and you're not." Don't get me started. I don't want to go there. This forum seems to be way more insult-free than BZP, or many forums I've been to. Plu,s since there is a small amount of members, it is much easier to talk and find out the opinions of one another.
Starwars4J Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Listen everyone. This topic is to discuss the Toyfair 2007 Bionicle images, not to bash another Lego website. Not only is that unethical, but it's immoral to go around and bash anyone behind their backs like that. If you don't like how their website is run? Fine. If you disagree with their rules and systems? Fine. But this is most certainly not the place to go about it. I'm sure there are people on BZP (such as Grievous) who disagree with the way EB is run, would you like them bashing us? That's childish. If this topic goes any further off topic and keeps bashing other lego websites I'm going to have to close it.
Darkness Falls Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Listen everyone. This topic is to discuss the Toyfair 2007 Bionicle images, not to bash another Lego website. Not only is that unethical, but it's immoral to go around and bash anyone behind their backs like that.If you don't like how their website is run? Fine. If you disagree with their rules and systems? Fine. But this is most certainly not the place to go about it. I'm sure there are people on BZP (such as Grievous) who disagree with the way EB is run, would you like them bashing us? That's childish. If this topic goes any further off topic and keeps bashing other lego websites I'm going to have to close it. Okay. I get it. And I want to talk about the images, but nobody seems to want to start conversation, so we lag into insult-fest.
Starwars4J Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Okay. I get it. And I want to talk about the images, but nobody seems to want to start conversation, so we lag into insult-fest. Well, if nobody wants to talk about the images, and that's what this topic is for...then don't? I mean we have a community forum to talk in. And if you want to talk about something bionicle related, that's what the forum is for. If you want to talk about BZP (in a positive light), you're free to over in the BZP topic in community. :-)
Zaktan of the Shadows Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Whats wrong with BZP in the first place? Its not for teens like us, its for littler people. About the Bionicle discussion, lets talk about how Lesovikk will look like. I hope he looks like a Inika with a bettter face/mask. -ZotS
Kynok Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 About the Bionicle discussion, lets talk about how Lesovikk will look like. I hope he looks like a Inika with a bettter face/mask.-ZotS[/color][/b] Lesovikk better look cool. I hope he has some sort of under-water Exo-Toa thing that enables him to breath, and protects him from the Mutangen (sp?). Cause I really don't want him to be another mutation.
Zane Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 He's from the first Toa team. i.e Before Tahu and co. The reason Tahu and co. are simpler than the Inika is because they are old, so really Lesovikk should be about the size and design as an Olda. But that won't happen.
Shakar Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 A sort of neo Iruini with no gold riding a morcycle without wheels always comes to my mind..... TT (eh, I'm used to call you in that way), it's the Olda sets that are simpler than the Inika sets. Storywise, they pretty much have the same stature and design...look at the movies (they're generally considered more canon than the sets). Shakar
Zane Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Well, if the design of a Nuva in MoL = the design of the set Nuva (and therefore the design of the Olda), Lesovikk should still have the design of an Olda, or even less complicated. But obviously that won't happen. Because it will, obviously, be mutated. :-|
Shakar Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 I strongly hope he isn't....maybe he is immune to it for some reason (Mask power? Natural power? Special armour?)... Shakar
Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Mutation: Legos exuse to design ugly-as-all-getout sets.
Strikin' Venom Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Whats wrong with BZP in the first place? Its not for teens like us, its for littler people.-ZotS Actually it's just as much for teens as it is here. But lately BZP has been getting younger and younger members.......... and half of them can't spell... Anyways, i hope Lesovikk will come with a motorbike..... hopefully...
Shakar Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Mutation: Legos exuse to design ugly-as-all-getout sets. Tough I love all the Pit mutated set released so far: Barraki, Matoran, Karzahni....I always think of a motorbike, too. It just seems the best thing to do with a most likely 20$ (look at my most about it a few pages back) set...a bike at a right scale for Lesovikk would be of an affordable size. But that's just my tought... Shakar
Zane Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 It'll probably be a jetski or something. :-| An exo suit would be much better....
Shakar Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 I actually wouldn't mind something along those lines...still; underwater it would be useless. Though I liked your view of the set. Exo suit+return of classic green= good. Shakar
Darkness Falls Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 It'll probably be a jetski or something. :-| An exo suit would be much better.... Underwater Jetski? MADNESS! I don't like the idea of a motorcycle, either. Takanuva already made a flying one, and he used it for about two seconds before smashing it into a wall. This is quite a stretch, but how do the Matoran do it? SUBMARINES! So either a sub or a Four-legged crawler would work for me. All silver in color, and very bulky (more than the Ussanui or the Kikanalo) that at least somewhat envelopes the Toa. A big hope, but I know it could be done. Only problem is, I don't think Lego would be too hot on it.
Kynok Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 So either a sub or a Four-legged crawler would work for me. All silver in color, and very bulky (more than the Ussanui or the Kikanalo) that at least somewhat envelopes the Toa. Oh, a four-legged crawler would be nice. Maybe something like General Grievous' Wheel Bike...
Kahgarak Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Oh, a four-legged crawler would be nice. Maybe something like General Grievous' Wheel Bike... Thanks for posting that picture...i've been looking for good pictures of the wheelbike for ages... :'-)
Zaktan of the Shadows Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 He'll probably ride one of those cheesy sumbarines from the playsets... But don't give your hopes up. -ZotS
Strikin' Venom Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Anyone tried searching BShelf for Lesovikk piccies? I tried, but i think the piccy is an MoC...
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