Shakar Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) Very quick overview: Mahri Jaller: awesome Hahli: awesome Matoro: good Hewkii: pretty good Nuparu: not so cool Kongu: hopeless Titans Hydraxon: very cool Gadunka: very cool M&S: awesome Karzahni: awesome Lesovikk: awesome Playsets Barraki Deepsea Patrol: I like the black tentacles alot Toa Undersea Attack: very nice Toa Terrain Crawler: I like the black tentacles and the recoloured Barraki heads. Shakar Edited June 3, 2007 by Shakar
Lord Thrawn Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Is it just me or do all the playset figs have the wrong heads?
Kynok Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Is that from S@H? It doesn't work with me.EDIT: Well, it works now. Shakar Yes, it is from S@H.
Kahgarak Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 So a member of the first Toa team is... identical to the Inika. That makes sense. Indeed.Maybe it was the same energy that created Lesovikk as the energy that transformed the Inika. ;-)
hewkii9 Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 My buy list for 2007- Lesovikk Hydraxon Kongu Nuparu Hewkii--Vomit. I feel really ashamed. Someone post a pic of that Kolhii-player with the girlfriend. These days, 'romance isn't going in the way that'd sell well', and 'popular choice' drives us to flat-face skimpy-limbs with ugly guns. Makuta's new body looks nice though. At least GregF hasn't confined him to the seas- unlike Jaller, Hewkii, Nuparu, Hahli, Kongu, Matoro, Lesovikk[could have potential], and Karzahni.
Shakar Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Who said that these guys you mentioned can't be freed by something? Kongu: hopeless Thinking of this, Kongu is going to be HEAVILY modified. I built a completely new body for him, I just need the lime parts, his mask and a good weapon for him.Shakar
vahkimetru Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 hewkii9 what is the new body for Makuta? I haven't seen it.
Shakar Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) BL7 SPOILERS Maxilos=Makuta's new body. Shakar Edited June 4, 2007 by Shakar
Darkness Falls Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 BL7 SPOILERSMaxilos=Makuta's new body. Shakar Oh, WOW... THAT'S a big surprise.
hewkii9 Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 Let's just say that if there was no...you know....Makuta would be Jaller's father, and after Mata Nui dies he'll return as Mata Nui the White, only to reveal that HE is Makuta's father. And then the Matoran kill all the baddies and they live happily ever after. Bionicle's suffering this year, maybe a few of us could get on the set and story teams? Well, okay, Lesovikk and Hydraxon[oops, I mean Dekar transformed by the Ignika] are nice. And Lesovikk has a good background. Finally, someone learns the consequences of their actions.
Zaktan of the Shadows Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 How the hell did it transform Dekar and the Inika but not Barraki or anyone else? Anyways, love the pics. Makes all of them looks so awesome! I love the Lesovikk pics. Intresting design. All of them rock... except for Kongu's. -ZotS
Darkness Falls Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 Great, now I'm confused! :-| Wait... you weren't before? Dang, you must have a very strong grip on your sanity... I lost it at "Makuta's back" and went overboard when "Hydraxon=Dekar"
Visorak-kal Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 I'm still not crazy about Lesovikk's vehicle; Lesovikk himself doesn't look so bad, but the vehicle is just not worth the extra 20 dollars I'd have to shell out for it. Gadunka is okay, but with my limited space, he's not worth it either. Hydraxon is looking pretty good, I was sort of surprised to find out he was really Dekar transformed. Makes sense, though, considering the real Hydraxon was buried under rubble from the earthquake. Plus in my own stories, this Hydraxon can be the real Hydraxon. A lot of these pictures are the same as Amazon, but the Lesovikk ones are new; that Lesovikk gold box is nice, too bad it doesn't come with an awesome set. :-D Zaktan of the Shadows and zero1312, maybe I can clear it up a bit, judging from the new comic. (The sixth book didn't have the Mahri transformation; the comic was short as usual, but at least it revealed the transformation.) 1. Makuta gets crushed by door, but his "essence" survives and floats to Voya Nui, where the Piraka creat a vat so he doesn't get dispersed. 2. The vat is broken, so Makuta heads to Mahri Nui and inhabits Maxilos. The Toa Inika were transformed into the Toa Mahri by the Kanohi Ignika's call for help. That's when Pridak touched it. Why would it want to transform the Barraki? Afterwards, as Dekar is swimming away, the Kanohi Ignika decides to turn him mentally into Hydraxon, this way he will go after the Barraki. (The pit jailer goes after the captives.) Hope that helps. :-) By the way, according to Greg, some of Dekar's memories still reside in the new Hydraxon, so that should be interesting.
zero1312 Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 (edited) I'm still not crazy about Lesovikk's vehicle; Lesovikk himself doesn't look so bad, but the vehicle is just not worth the extra 20 dollars I'd have to shell out for it. Gadunka is okay, but with my limited space, he's not worth it either.Hydraxon is looking pretty good, I was sort of surprised to find out he was really Dekar transformed. Makes sense, though, considering the real Hydraxon was buried under rubble from the earthquake. Plus in my own stories, this Hydraxon can be the real Hydraxon. A lot of these pictures are the same as Amazon, but the Lesovikk ones are new; that Lesovikk gold box is nice, too bad it doesn't come with an awesome set. :-D Zaktan of the Shadows and zero1312, maybe I can clear it up a bit, judging from the new comic. (The sixth book didn't have the Mahri transformation; the comic was short as usual, but at least it revealed the transformation.) 1. Makuta gets crushed by door, but his "essence" survives and floats to Voya Nui, where the Piraka creat a vat so he doesn't get dispersed. 2. The vat is broken, so Makuta heads to Mahri Nui and inhabits Maxilos. The Toa Inika were transformed into the Toa Mahri by the Kanohi Ignika's call for help. That's when Pridak touched it. Why would it want to transform the Barraki? Afterwards, as Dekar is swimming away, the Kanohi Ignika decides to turn him mentally into Hydraxon, this way he will go after the Barraki. (The pit jailer goes after the captives.) Hope that helps. :-) By the way, according to Greg, some of Dekar's memories still reside in the new Hydraxon, so that should be interesting. That's clearing a lot questions in my head. X-D Thanks! *y* Wait... you weren't before? Dang, you must have a very strong grip on your sanity... I lost it at "Makuta's back" and went overboard when "Hydraxon=Dekar" It's difficult to confuse me. :-D Edited June 6, 2007 by zero1312
Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 "perhaps some of us could get on the story team" Hmm... I say we get Jinzo on the set designer team and me on the story team... Then, Bionicle would stop sucking :)
Lord Thrawn Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 ... for you. We have to realise that you can't appeal to everyone, and LEGO has made the decision to target kids because adults aren't meant to play with action figures (won't stop me when I'm that old though, heh, and not saying there's anything wrong with that). We can't please everyone. I guess that's the beauty of LEGO in that you can do it yourself.
PSPguy Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Can I say something? Lego should take a vote from the people who follow the story...maybe like "Create 2008s' Story" I think thats what TLC should do. Also if there is going to be a 7th Toa *sigh* again :-| it should be purple.
JINZONINGEN73 Posted June 8, 2007 Author Posted June 8, 2007 "perhaps some of us could get on the story team"Hmm... I say we get Jinzo on the set designer team and me on the story team... Then, Bionicle would stop sucking :) Lord Thrawn Posted Yesterday, 11:05 AM ... for you. We have to realise that you can't appeal to everyone, and LEGO has made the decision to target kids because adults aren't meant to play with action figures True, but one can still appeal to kids AND appease the intellectual sanity of adult fans as well. It's rarely done, however, but it's FAR from impossible. One need only give a damn and give another the time and budget to execute it properly. BUT since that's not happening any time soon... rubber slugs, cheesy gimmicks, bad storylines, INFERIOR set construction, and impotent promotional stunts AHOY!
zero1312 Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 No bashing awesome squidzorz. :-D Great find, man!!! X-D
Visorak-kal Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) True, but one can still appeal to kids AND appease the intellectual sanity of adult fans as well.It's rarely done, however, but it's FAR from impossible. One need only give a damn and give another the time and budget to execute it properly. BUT since that's not happening any time soon... rubber slugs, cheesy gimmicks, bad storylines, INFERIOR set construction, and impotent promotional stunts AHOY! Yes, LEGO can do that if they take the time and effort. The point is; why should they? Adults do not make up the bulk of their LEGO sales. Hey, even BZPower doesn't make up even one-third of LEGO's Bionicle sales, and we all know how a lot of them love the new sets. So, the question is; why should LEGO focus that extra time and energy to please adults when that time and energy could be spent on more ways to please those that actually buy the sets? Plus, I doubt the building is THAT inferior, otherwise that means millions of little boys like inferior builds; highly unlikely. BIONICLE was technic in 2001 because LEGO hoped it would appeal to technic builders. It didn't, and even those of us that loved that style were not numerous enough to make it a profitable idea. So LEGO changed to make BIONICLE for the target audience, and by the sales it's working for them. I read on BZP that they did a test for comics, and their focus groups liked the comics, especially the fighting. The comics are nothing special to me, and to you all they stink (okay, maybe MORE than stink), but we aren't enough of the profit to count for much. We have louder voices, but we don't have louder pockets. On a different note, I just finished Bionicle Legends 7 yesterday (One-hour read: yes!) Some more characterization from the Toa Inika than we had in the past; unfortunately, they were also crammed in with the Barraki, so I'm really missing the Bionicle Legends 7 that was cut by scholastic; that would have been Inika-only, a book we haven't had yet. In the book, Jaller asks Kongu the question we've all been wondering; why and how did he become the funny-boy when he wasn't in the past? (Perhaps Greg is watching us...) Reasoning being that Toa Lewa taught him that in tight situations, comedy can be helpful, and saving the universe is a tough situation. Toa Inika/Mahri, Hydraxon (you know who), Maxilos, Toa Nuva, etc. I must really applaud the way Greg manages to make the 21+ characters actually important to the story; none of them are really superfluous in any way, and they all connect to the main plot, within 122 pages. None of the characters did nothing, so to speak. Except Spinax, who appeared for one page. But he's not really a character. The book really makes me want to get Hydraxon and Maxilos/Spinax. It is good that Dekar was mentally transformed into Hydraxon, because we now have an insight into the mind of the jailer. He is a pretty cool character. I'm getting Maxilos and Spinax because they're cool, and because Maxilos is Makuta, and Makuta is, well, Makuta! (Been around since '01, and even more awesome, since he's taking matters into his own hands rather than using Visorak, Bohrok, Rahi, etc.) I would recommend it, but perhaps this is not the place. :-D VK Edited June 8, 2007 by Visorak-kal
Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 True, but one can still appeal to kids AND appease the intellectual sanity of adult fans as well.It's rarely done, however, but it's FAR from impossible. One need only give a damn and give another the time and budget to execute it properly. BUT since that's not happening any time soon... rubber slugs, cheesy gimmicks, bad storylines, INFERIOR set construction, and impotent promotional stunts AHOY! All I have to say is this: TEMPLAR Templar is the company that made the MNOLG I. MNOLG I apealed to damn near EVERYBODY - Even my brother in his 20's enjoyed playing it and got more'n a little immersed in the Bionicle universe for a while. So, yeah. You can promote sets, aim it at ALL ages, and keep up a good storyline - nomatter what Greg says.
Visorak-kal Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 All I have to say is this:TEMPLAR Templar is the company that made the MNOLG I. MNOLG I apealed to damn near EVERYBODY - Even my brother in his 20's enjoyed playing it and got more'n a little immersed in the Bionicle universe for a while. So, yeah. You can promote sets, aim it at ALL ages, and keep up a good storyline - nomatter what Greg says. I too wish that LEGO would try a game like MNOLG again. But it won't happen, for a simple reason: What made MNOLG great for all ages was its focus on Matoran; everyday heroes, which made the Toa legendary. MNOLG existed for no other purpose but to promote sales; it's not like LEGO decided to be nice to their adult fans or anything. Since Matoran turned out not to be the sellers, MNOLG-like structures will no longer exist. TEMPLAR is not a bad idea; I will have to ask Greg why LEGO has not made another deal with TEMPLAR; their animations were spectacular compared to 2005 and 2006 animations; it could be because there were only three comics that years, so LEGO had the budget to hire TEMPLAR. Who knows? My point, Lord Admiral, is that they can promote sets and aim it at ALL ages. But attempting to do so (like in 2001) may bring hazard to the current formula that is working. (It may not.) WHY should they, when their current formula is working well enough to have an increase in BIONICLE profits? And where did Greg Farshtey say that it was impossible to do that? I don't recall him saying that? VK
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