Toyfair 2007 Bionicle Set Images

[Zarkan]

However, MNOLG I was NOT written by Greg. As he told me himself via PM, he had nothing to do with the web content what-so-ever back then.

Like I said, I didn't know. To tell you the truth, I didn't really think it was a possibility anyway. ;-)

Anywho, ever since I read on BZP that Toa Mahri were aparrently showing up in stores, I've been checking everywhere for a chance to buy one. Anybody seen any yet?

BTW, you guys haven't heard yet that Greg confirmed that the Toa Nuva will be returning in set form, have you? I figure that if everyone here knew, it would be the subject of the hour. ;-)

Edited June 22, 2007 by Grevious

[Dark_Avenger]

Only problem with that is that Pohatu will likely become yellow. Terrible flaw in what could be an awesome rerelease.

[Zarkan]

That's a distinct possibility, but we really can't make any assumptions until we get more info. The new Toa Nuva won't be coming out until at least 2008. They very well could be the Toa canister sets for that year.

One thing we can almost be certain of, though: they will not be direct releases. After all, what's the fun in that? ;-)

[Lord Thrawn]

Sadly I don't think they'll look at all like our heroes. They'll be Toa with the old names. What I want is the designs of the old ones but with knees and elbows (legs in the same vain as their original ones) and th same height as Metru. And same masks/tools (maybe a little bigger). But it won't happen.

[Kynok]

With all the thousands of new peices that BIONICLE has introduced over the past 7 years, it's bound the Toa Redone will not look at all the same as the originals in 2001/2002. In fact, when was the last time you saw any of the pieces (excluding rods and pins) used in the original Toa Mata/Nuva be re-used? The only thing I can think of are Lewa's Air Katanas. And Pridak's Nuva leg arms.

But if they do resemble the originals, with no transformations story-wise, oh-ho-ho, what a glorious dream that will be.

But seeing as where BIONICLE is going now, the Toa Nuva will probably be transformed by falling into mutangenic water, while being hit by a red lightning bolt, while being bitten by giant radioactive spiders, and while holding a Toa Stone. All at the same time. Its flawless! I don't know what they would call themselves... The sory team would have a real hard time figuring that out... :-|

Edited June 23, 2007 by Kynok

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Richard on mask of Destiny has the Mahri!]Awesomeness! Matoro is looking cool! the canisters are okay too.

You guys should watch Death Note.

-ZotS

Edited June 23, 2007 by Zaktan of the Shadows

[Shakar]

Hahli=best Toa EVER. No, best canister set ever.

Over BZP they closed the topic which was talking about the pics and they removed the links.

Whoops, sorry guys. The pics are now authorized.

Shakar

Edited June 24, 2007 by Shakar

[Zarkan]

Awesome! The toa Mahri rock! :'-) Except for the gatling gun, of course. |-/

Hahli=best Toa EVER. No, best canister set ever.

Nah, I like Hewkii Inika better. But I agree, Hahli is COOL. Those wings make me drool... and I love that we get solid color versions of all her Inika form's parts! Although, I don't really like her weapon... :-/

But if they do resemble the originals, with no transformations story-wise, oh-ho-ho, what a glorious dream that will be.

Sorry, but I wouldn't like that at all. True, I would be able to get them (I wasn't into bionicle in 2002), but think of what that would mean for Bionicle on a whole! Exact re-releases of sets only half a decade old is BAD marketing. That seriously would be boring, and I don't think many people would buy them. Which would mean: no Bionicle 2009. :'-(

[Darkness Falls]

Awesome! The toa Mahri rock! :'-) Except for the gatling gun, of course. |-/

Nah, I like Hewkii Inika better. But I agree, Hahli is COOL. Those wings make me drool... and I love that we get solid color versions of all her Inika form's parts! Although, I don't really like her weapon... :-/

Sorry, but I wouldn't like that at all. True, I would be able to get them (I wasn't into bionicle in 2002), but think of what that would mean for Bionicle on a whole! Exact re-releases of sets only half a decade old is BAD marketing. That seriously would be boring, and I don't think many people would buy them. Which would mean: no Bionicle 2009. :'-(

He said resemble. VERY similar masks on a more articulated body, which still possesses the same colors and Nuva-esque armor.

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

First, I said the Hordika were the worst canister sets ever.

Their suckage was out-sucked by the Inika.

And now these... these... things ... make the Inika look like the pinnacle of all LEGO Building sets.

[Darkness Falls]

First, I said the Hordika were the worst canister sets ever.

Their suckage was out-sucked by the Inika.

And now these... these... things ... make the Inika look like the pinnacle of all LEGO Building sets.

...The Mahri? They look WAY better than the Hordika, though that isn't saying much. They bring more variety than the Inika. I think they look fine.

[Clonie]

I think Bionicle fandom comes in two main groups: Those who liked the original style, and those who thought is was okay at first but grew to like today's style much more.

People see the Mahri and other recent sets as having little build and complexity and having bulky parts. While that is true, that's what I like about them. I guess I never liked technic as much as this. Which is the point - some people like what others don't.

I don't see everyone's problem with the Cordak Blasters though, because you can, er, take them off and melt them. X-D

[Zarkan]

...The Mahri? They look WAY better than the Hordika, though that isn't saying much. They bring more variety than the Inika. I think they look fine.

I totally agree. The Hordika not only had those ugly long arms, but they were CLONES! |-/

And now these... these... things ... make the Inika look like the pinnacle of all LEGO Building sets.

Ironically, that last bit of your comment is partly true to me, Ravensburg, due to my mostly loving of the Inika. ;-)

Seriously, though, I don

[JINZONINGEN73]

http://www.maskofdestiny.com/article2.asp?i=106994

THE GOGGLES... they come off!

Mahri Respect +1

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

I guess the difference is is that the 2001 Toa arent gangly, horribly colored, alternatingly scrawny and bulky with massive parts, and dont have ugly two-toned masks :P

[dviddy]

No offense, but Toa Mata bodies aren

[Darkness Falls]

I guess the difference is is that the 2001 Toa arent gangly, horribly colored, alternatingly scrawny and bulky with massive parts, and dont have ugly two-toned masks :P

Having a built, V-shaped torso and thin arms isn't scrawny?

'01 Toa bodies are awesome MoCing pieces.

Edited June 27, 2007 by Darkness Falls

[Zarkan]

And the MOCists who have been MOCing since '01 laugh. Toa bodies not being useful.

Someone doesn't MOC enough.

Actually, I MOC a lot, and in my opinion, the toa bodies aren't. That's because when I look at usefulness, I look at being able to use pieces in different ways, but as far as I have seen, toa bodies can only be used as bodies. I simply can't use them because I don't have a massive supply of parts to incorporate them with.

with massive parts

Huh? Their parts are massive and 2001 toa bodies aren't?

One more thing: If you guys think 2001 Toa bodies are so useful, then why do you at the same time scorn Piraka bodies? :-/

[Darkness Falls]

Actually, I MOC a lot, and in my opinion, the toa bodies aren't. That's because when I look at usefulness, I look at being able to use pieces in different ways, but as far as I have seen, toa bodies can only be used as bodies. I simply can't use them because I don't have a massive supply of parts to incorporate them with.

Huh? Their parts are massive and 2001 toa bodies aren't?

One more thing: If you guys think 2001 Toa bodies are so useful, then why do you at the same time scorn Piraka bodies? :-/

Because new parts nowadays are intended for one reason only! Notice how, in Titan sets, you have an extremely similar structured body. Gadunka uses two Piraka torsos for arms and legs... let's see you use a Piraka torso for, let's say, a forearm. A foot?

Parts back in '01-'04 had such imagination to them. Now, the possibilities for a part are slimmed down so much.

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

I was reffering to the overal look. Plus, the 2001 torsos are no where near as massive as the Piraka torsos are.

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Whats wrong with the bulky look? And whats wrong with the color schemes (other than Nuparu's)?

BTW, the Mahri are out in stores now!!!

And the Toa Mata were cool, I will agree with that. However, fat body peices arn't that useful.

Ravensdorn, you yourself said you hate bulky Bionicles. However, basically, the only way to use a Toa Mata body peice is to make them more bulky! And the V shape body... used in the first Kaita's, that didn't look good at all. There was a giant gap, and that ruined it.

I like the Mahri. I had to say that.

AND WATCH DEATH NOTE! Its 20x better than Bleach!!!!

...

Sorry, I had to say that too.

-ZotS

[KMOI]

However, basically, the only way to use a Toa Mata body peice is to make them more bulky! And the V shape body... used in the first Kaita's, that didn't look good at all. There was a giant gap, and that ruined it.

ONLY way? Take a look at the original Toa. There's virtually no armour present on that thing and as for the arms, they're rather skinny compared to what we see these days. Giant gaps? At least there WERE good Toa combiners. Nowadays, combiners are just random animals that have some crazy whacky backstory. Besides, as I said. You want no giant gaps? Get a Gundam. There's CLEARLY no gaps in that thing. Or try Marvel Legends. Or Transformers.

As for bulky, you pretty well much missed Ravendorn's entire point. He said overall look. Just look at the originals and what we have today. Having a FEW bulky series of "Toa" are understandable, but when the entire teams looks like they've overdosed on steriods year after year after year?

The whole abstract "skeleton" islander look was what really brought me to Bionicle. Compared to other mecha series, it brought a fresh breath of life to my otherwise dull view that robots had to be bulky. It was this and more that made Bionicle truly worthy of my time. Oh wells, guess things change. Time to jump the burning ship!

Edited June 28, 2007 by KMOI

[dviddy]

Actually, I MOC a lot, and in my opinion, the toa bodies aren't. That's because when I look at usefulness, I look at being able to use pieces in different ways, but as far as I have seen, toa bodies can only be used as bodies. I simply can't use them because I don't have a massive supply of parts to incorporate them with.

Neck. Horse Body. Arms. Arms.

Etc.

Huh? Their parts are massive and 2001 toa bodies aren't?

One more thing: If you guys think 2001 Toa bodies are so useful, then why do you at the same time scorn Piraka bodies? sceptic.gif

The original Toa bodies were proportional to the bodies. They weren't eight lengths wide, with four length waists, two lengths deep. Yes, they were blockier. And thank God. They were realistically sized. Five wide, four deep, and three at the waist. These new ones are skinny, wide, and squat, with all these weird things sticking out in odd places, with odd holes in odd places. The Toa Olda bodies were solid, and they looked awesome.

The new sets are gangly, tall, poorly proportioned, with bulk in odd places. They're unattractive.

<<DV>>

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Thank you, Kmoi and DV. You guys are m'heroes, and stated it perfectly :)

[Darkness Falls]

Wha-huh? I tried to explain... I guess nobody saw that post.