Harriet Slutter and the Philosopher's Balls: Chapter 1

[Harriet Slutter]

Someone's waiting to hear from me about something? But why? I'm not an Alien Overlord. I'm not even a witch yet. I'm just a slut.

[Hinckley]

Mod note: I am your Alien Overlord and you will all kneel and cower before me! Rule one is now in full effect! Anyone caught breaking it, on purpose or by accident will be hastily executed, removed from the game, and sworn about under my breath! You have vowed to me your utter devotion to the alter ego concept when you did sign up for this game. This contract is binding and breaching this contract is punishable by death. I have been lenient up until now but no more Mr. Nice-Alien-Overlord! From hitherto forthward, any posting as your regular EB account in this game and not with your alter ego account will result in swift and painful death! And so will any attempt to extricate people's real identities behind the scenes. You have given me your word to play on your honor and not reveal your identities behind the scenes, so shame on anyone who tries it! Now you shall all grovel before me and pray for forgiveness as I am your God now. Bow before me, prostrate yourselves! Grovel! Kneel! Crawl...

I mean, thank you.

[Firuz Foxtail]

Voting for someone for role-playing seems off to me, given that we were encouraged to so in the very first post of the day:

Roleplaying is a good thing and it is encourage in this game and will be required at some point. So get to know your personality quirks, they've been created for a reason.

There are a few people who's "personality quirks" are giving me the shits already (case in point - Dillpickle's Shakespearean insult), but I don't think that necessarily makes them Odor Eaters.

I also think that voting for someone's level of activity isn't particularly helpful. There have been plenty of posts that don't really contribute to us sniffing out those Odor Eaters. What someone is saying is more important than how often they speak. A wise man once said to me, "If you've got nothing useful to add, don't say anything".

This leaves behavior, which is the best we can go on. At this stage, I'm inclined to vote for:

- Godric: for his dumb reason for voting for Ariattny

- Flabflom: because the OotP can't afford mistakes like that

And Ariattny and Durmudgelous since one of them has been lying. Of those two, I'd put Durmudgelous ahead of Ariattny because I am wary of anyone sending out PMs at this stage of the game. How random were they really?

There is still plenty of time left in the day, so I'm happy to hold off on my vote a little longer.

[Snarky Snickerpuss]

Great attitude. Odor Eaters don't care who is lynched, as long as it's not them. Penises must care and can't lynch randomly. Why else would be bother discussing this stuff?

Don't be naive, Flabflom. We have no choice but to lynch someone with very little to no evidence on this first day. I will care for other people when I have a reason to believe that they aren't stinking Odor Eaters. Wait, can Odor Eaters stink...?

Anyway, I'm a reasonable crocodile. If I see something that convinces me that someone else is a better option to vote out today, I'll change my vote.

Just to clear it up, Ariattny sent me a potato message at the start of Day 1 asking for my real identity. I mean I am Durmudgelous Krup. It is a bit of a tongue-twister, but there you go.

Now that's a faux pass if I ever saw one...

[Looney Lumpylove]

I don't see any harm in it, so I'll tell everyone that I was one of the 5 Krup contacted. He asked if he could come over for applesauce and to discuss who we thought the Evil Alien Odor Eaters were.

I responded that I am always up for some applesauce, and I thought the conversation could very well be enlightening. He hasn't contacted me since.

[Durmudgelous Krup]

That's a flat out lie. What are you trying to pull?

So, one of you is lying? Interesting...Sqeak!

I reckon it would be. But I didn't do it.

Okay, I'm inclined to believe you over him right now, meow. But since he said you broke rule 1, I'd like to hear if Harriet has anything to say about that...

Ok, I prayed.

Maybe I have come out a little strongly on Ariattny, sorry Ariattny .

She did not "ask" for my true identity, but she was trying to get me to reveal my true identity.

Hope that clears everything.

The Gods can bear my testimony.

[Dillpickle Catterweed]

The vain rump-fed pignut, which is Bartholomew Bearbutt hath case aspersions upon the no less ruttish pock-marked pumpion known as Wong Wang. Verily I say, I cannot claim to know one from t'other. Yet my mind hath put it upon me that Wang and Bearbutt suffer from the same affliction of unwillingness to contribute to the democracy of death with certitude of voting. As such, can it be that both are foul Odor Eaters? It would seem a muse to consider, yet not beyond the realms of thought amidst conspiracy.

And as for Snarky Snickerpuss, thy casual disregard for life hath left me aghast. 't would seem they capacity for compassion hath left. While I do not disagree that Flimflam's foible of forbidden editing should not be disregarded, as an exclusive basis for lynching it would seem more than a mite excessive.

To Helena's prior inquiry regarding mine opinion on those chatterboxes as being more or less likely an Odor Eater, thy comment came before there was proper discussion of a serious bent. Merely idle chatter, as such as had occurred in the merry gaiety of the morn do not strike me as any more or less informative in regard to the past fictions from which you base your claim. Hence, yes, I disagree that those who speak more are less likely to be Odor Eaters. Perhaps those at the heart of accusation in these most recent hours, but not at the point of thy conjecture.

Nevertheless, at this point, I will continue to monitor the situation, while I do case a vote of fate agin the lumpish Bearbutt. Vote: Bartholomew Bearbutt. Tis an insult of temporary accusation shouldst thou respond with aplomb.

[Ariattny Sugarbottom]

Hoped you would explain it yourself, Krup, but I guess not. Krup did something (unintentionalyl and not punishable) that made his identity known to me, I called him out on it. I guess that's what he's getting at.

I did not ask, or fish or even tried in any capacity, so to say that, is really odd.

[Godric Goaty-Blather]

Unvote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

I've decided to unvote you because someone else has piqued my interest.

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

If you'd like justification, then basically the largest ping I've received all day was when he just said Ariattny asked about his muggle name, then admitting that he lied about her doing that and made it up. To me, Durmudgelous just attempted to get rid of a player with scummy motives. That's literally a scummy thing to do, to lie like that and try and get Ariattny in trouble.

I'm watching you, pal. Actually, you're not my pal anymore.

[Hinckley]

vote tally

Boris Biddlesdorf: 1 vote (Ariattny Sugarbottom)

Flabflom Flimflam: 7 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, Snarky Snickerpuss)

Lulu Pittoolo: 2 votes (Helena Hippopaw, Barkonius Twitch)

Durmudgelous Krup: 2 votes (Nicholas Dickory, Godric Goaty-Blather)

Bartholomew Bearbutt: 1 vote (Dillpickle Catterweed)

[Wong Wang]

True, but I find it odd that you focus on weak leads when more interesting discussion is ongoing. Also we're not about to run out of time so your concern sounded like you were trying to justify a hasty vote.

I'm covering all the options. Some go for the bigger leads; I go for the smaller ones.

The vain rump-fed pignut, which is Bartholomew Bearbutt hath case aspersions upon the no less ruttish pock-marked pumpion known as Wong Wang. Verily I say, I cannot claim to know one from t'other. Yet my mind hath put it upon me that Wang and Bearbutt suffer from the same affliction of unwillingness to contribute to the democracy of death with certitude of voting. As such, can it be that both are foul Odor Eaters? It would seem a muse to consider, yet not beyond the realms of thought amidst conspiracy.

And as for Snarky Snickerpuss, thy casual disregard for life hath left me aghast. 't would seem they capacity for compassion hath left. While I do not disagree that Flimflam's foible of forbidden editing should not be disregarded, as an exclusive basis for lynching it would seem more than a mite excessive.

To Helena's prior inquiry regarding mine opinion on those chatterboxes as being more or less likely an Odor Eater, thy comment came before there was proper discussion of a serious bent. Merely idle chatter, as such as had occurred in the merry gaiety of the morn do not strike me as any more or less informative in regard to the past fictions from which you base your claim. Hence, yes, I disagree that those who speak more are less likely to be Odor Eaters. Perhaps those at the heart of accusation in these most recent hours, but not at the point of thy conjecture.

Nevertheless, at this point, I will continue to monitor the situation, while I do case a vote of fate agin the lumpish Bearbutt. Vote: Bartholomew Bearbutt. Tis an insult of temporary accusation shouldst thou respond with aplomb.

why is there no Shakespeare to math formula dictionary yet?

I'm willing to contribute to a democracy of death. (Should I add "est" to the end of words? English is not my game) I'm just being cautious. And is affliction like the guy who made a muggle movie about a man sneaking into a country to make another movie but really sneak out a bunch of people who escaped some facility? Like that guy?

Anyway, I am not going to use a vote on Bearbutt, not today. To me, though he has rubbed me the wrong way, he is doing what a good OoTP member would do and question everything. But that could also be the way he could cover up if he is an Odor Eater. I'm going to watch for just a bit longer to decide who I'll vote for. Two hours at the most.

[Rutherford HablabbleBibble]

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup.

Between all your behind the scenes chats (decidedly randomly, on Day One, no less ) and 'embellishing' potato messages you were sent....you're seriously ponging my radar.

[Orion Kettleboil]

Hi guys! I'm sorry, I was busy putting wieners in buns all morning. Getting caught up now.

[Catalina Kittywhisker]

This post seems a very... strange way to defend yourself. First you out yourself, then resign yourself to your fate... and then make it seem like only Odor Eaters would lead a lynch on you. A strange cagey reaction for someone who was open enough to send flying potato messages. Though not necessarily a Odor Eater response... just a strange one.

I agree. It almost seemed like he gave up here too. That along with him being jumpy all the time with his defenses is pushing me to vote for him.

Hoped you would explain it yourself, Krup, but I guess not. Krup did something (unintentionalyl and not punishable) that made his identity known to me, I called him out on it. I guess that's what he's getting at.

I did not ask, or fish or even tried in any capacity, so to say that, is really odd.

Even then, I still find him odd for accusing of that. I think he's just pulling at straws at this point. First he comes up with a poor, jumpy defense, and then he moves on to push the attention onto someone that he contacted via PM. I think I'll vote for Krup.

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

[Drubulum Panck]

By the way, earlier, in private, Krup asked me for my opinion on three people: Godric and Drubulum. At that point, I didn't have an opinion on either. Worth mentioning, I thought.

I was one of the people he spoke to privately, I suppose that may be why he wanted an opinion on me. Don't know for sure.

One question Flabflom Flimflam: why the need to edit your comment anyway. I wouldn't want to see a lynch based on it, because the only time I've seen a person lynched for editing a post, that person turned up town, but what could make you edit your post? It's not one just forgets they're in one of these mafia scenarios, because they are looking a little different than normal.

I have to say that there are a few people who really appear scum at present.

Godric-for his ridiculous and nonsensical vote.

Durmudgelous Krup-for his odd dodging of some of the issues raised against him.

Snarky Snickerpuss-for his statement that he doesn't care who is lynched as long as it's not him. Seriously, we have actually come up with some interesting things are you really going to just vote for someone because he has a lot of penalty votes against him? That's not town behaviour at all. As I see it, only scum would try to capitalize on penalty votes to gain an advantage, town shouldn't need to. That's very selfish of you Snarky.

Finally, though, I have to point out Wong Wang:

She/he started the day out with all the regular crap, but towards the middle of the day he/she started to make some odd comments:

Either way, be it somebody being talkative or being quiet can lead us down the wong path. We have to be careful. I though, want to hear what this name is before I cast a vote.

That was in reference to the issue with Twatty and Durmudgelous Krup. I don't know what the beginning part was about, but it seems like ridiculous confusion to me and it seems like he(let's settle for "he") is just saying that whether people are quiet or loud they could be wrong about their assumptions. Umm, I don't know what talkativeness has to do with being wrong, but this is a minor thing.

A mislynch is the worst thing we could do. I do agree an under-the-radar- mislynch can be better to that of an active, but only to an extent. Our numbers would be cut down by one, something all of you know, even those who can't perform mathematical operations very well.

This is a ridiculous fluff post that considering how the general talk was switching to more serious issues at the time, just looks like someone trying to be helpful. Basically, it says that a mislynch is bad. We all know that. So are you tryign to help us find a good lynch or what?

I have to say add in that I'm concerned on the PM thing as well. I know that talking in private could yield some clues, but a good Odor Eater probably knows that and would hide everything anyway. We can't not lynch somebody either, or else the Odor Eaters will have an advantage tonight and we don't want that. It's been mathematically proven before. There's magic in the air, and it's not good magic.

I am worried to lynch a penis, even though I know it is inevitable most likely the first day. As for repeating, sometimes it helps me to know what is going on if it is repeated, the more times it is said or heard, we're adding one for it is being heard, we have a better memory of what people have said, and it specifically helps me. I'm sorry if it is not helpful to you or others.

So yes, I am scared we will mislynch but I am also scared if we don't lynch. I'm still trying to figure this all out in my head. Theoretical idealogies are not my strong point. Math and formulas suit me, so excuse me if I am wong and out of my element when trying to form theories. As I said before, it helps me if I repeat something, or it is said multiple times, adding things on.

Of course the Odor Eaters will try to hide things, but the fact is that the more we get them to talk, the more likely they are to slip up. Wang then goes on to say that she's, basically, afraid to lynch because she thinks we will get a Penis Orderly, but then that we can't not lynch. And refreshes our memory as to why we can't. This is helpful...not.

She then talks about her need to repeat what others say in order to remember. Is this a character trait? Possibly, but I doubt it. If you want to remember, you are free to read the post as many times as you like. I'm sorry, but when you repeat yourself and others a lot, it looks like you're just trying to eat up space in an attempt to look useful.

I know I probably don't look useful if it seems I am repeating stuff or seemingly saying things just for the sake of seeing things.

Yep! You look really scummy right about now. Another worthless post that it seems is supposed to explain something, but really doesn't explain anything.

Part of me wants to agree with Twatty that it is weird that early, but then again, it does sort of seem like a good idea to send out random messages to see what sticks.

Also, if we voted based on mathematical ability, nobody could vote for me. That would be stupid. Anyway we are slowly running out of time for the day. I sort of want to vote for Lulu just because she has been seemingly silent, but then again also vote for Flabflom just because you have the most votes, but that's only because of a weird penalty these Alien Gods people keep talking about gave you.

So the two most suspicious people she finds is Lulu because she's quiet (I guess I can respect that, sort of) and Flabflom because he has the most votes against him. Trying to jump on Snarky's "bandwagon" here and find a few friends to join you. Why would you want to vote for someone who has the most votes when you don't seem to have found anything scummy about them? If you have found something scummy, do share.

I wasn't saying I am voting for you. It's just one of those thoughts of what happens of the vote is split?

No, you didn't say you are going to vote for him, but you did say that you want to.

I think I've said enough.

For now I'll vote: Wong Wang.

Seems one of if not the best leads to me.

[Boris Biddlesdorf]

And I'd really call it a bit too early to speak about a lynch. I voted for you. No one else has. Why are you so defensive? Are you hiding something?

And if I ignored your comments and vote without making some kind of defense, you'd say that was scummy behavior as well. There's really no way to talk to you, so I don't think I'll try anymore. Better for my blood pressure that way. I don't think you're scum but you're mooing up the wrong tree.

Krup does seem scummy and I think he's been given enough of a chance to explain his statements. I think he seems scummy, not because he talked to someone privately but because of the way he responded to the accusation and the resulting back-and-forth with Sugarbottom.

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

Of replying to Sugarbottom, I've had enoup,

Then because of behavior I voted for Krup!

[Gertrude Tincanchew]

At this point I don't really care which one of you is lynched, as long as it isn't me. I know I'm a member of the Order of the Penis, but I can't say the same about any of you.

But I have to pick someone to vote, so I'm going to start with the one who is the biggest liability.

Vote: Flabflom Flimflam

If you don't know even the basic rules, then what good could you be to our cause?

Jumping on a Penis who made a mistake in the hopes of a hammer?

Vote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

I don't like you, or your horrible counting skills! Plus, I've heard through the grapevine that only scum can't count.

Don't even need to say anything. Ping.

I don't care what fraction of the day had passed, we obviiously have diffrent definitions of the word "beginning". You want to start a misguided lynch on that, go ahead.

I consider myself active because I'm talking and helpful because I was turning the conversation away from weiners and gender confusion and back towards the crisis at hand. Perhaps you don't see it that way, but I do. We can have a difference of opinion without either of us being scum.

I do find it odd how focused you are on me. Just go ahead and ignore any other converasation going on. I don't know what to say to convince you of my innocnence. If you can't see it, it's your loss.

I'm confused at how PMing is ballsy or scummy at this point. Is there some new rule that says PMs are forbidden until day 2? How is someone talking in private a solid lead?

Krup's words confuse me as well. Why admit to doing something wrong when it wasn't wrong? How did you "take it too far"? Maybe you can explain this misplaced guilt.

I'm as innocent as I can be,

This whole PMing lead seems like hooey.

Tunnel vision, as the opposite of wishy-washy voting, reads more town than scum to me. Also, "If you can't see it, that's your loss?" Appeal to emotion, scummy. Ping.

Well that's me, the weird old lonely doggy. I have to admit I took the relationship too far with Twatty. That is as far as the first 24 hour goes. I am the easy target for the Odor Eaters because I am old and queer. If you are the OotP please take note of those who will be/interested in voting for me. That would set you up to find those Odor Eaters in the future.

Appeal to Emotion. Why give up? A real Townie would fight to the bitter end. Ping.

Ok, I prayed.

Maybe I have come out a little strongly on Ariattny, sorry Ariattny .

She did not "ask" for my true identity, but she was trying to get me to reveal my true identity.

Hope that clears everything.

The Gods can bear my testimony.

Embellishing Potato Messages counts as lying in my book. Om nom nom. Wait, this isn't my book. Whose book am I chewing on? Anyway, Lynch all Liars. Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

[Orion Kettleboil]

I'm feeling conflicted. Durmudgelous's actions have been uhh, eyebrow raising (and they raised something else, too ), but his reaction to the accusations reads as scared/noob town to me. "Take a look at who's trying to vote for me so when I'm dead you can lynch Odor Eaters". Very much the response of a backpedalling overzealous town. However, it's definitely possible that he dropped that tell because he knew how it would be read.

Unfortunately, it isn't as simple as that; Drummy is apparently now accusing Can't-Count-Cow of sending him a potato with a message asking about his real identity. If that makes any sense at all.

I'm not really comfortable with the Durmudgelous vote, though. His reactions are so bad, they're almost good, if you know what I mean. Ugh. The bandwagon, too. Rutherford/Catalina coming out of the floorboard to vote for him pings my scumdar, it pings it so hard it spews applesauce all over me.

But yeah, basically, lynch all liars. I really don't know if this is right, but I guess I have to trust that nobody here would lie as OotP.

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

There is something else that caught my eye, however,

At this point I don't really care which one of you is lynched, as long as it isn't me. I know I'm a member of the Order of the Penis, but I can't say the same about any of you.

But I have to pick someone to vote, so I'm going to start with the one who is the biggest liability.

Vote: Flabflom Flimflam

If you don't know even the basic rules, then what good could you be to our cause?

The first couple of sentences could be attributed to bad play/inexperience, I suppose, but the vote itself is what pings my scumdar. While yes, Flabflom is likely no good to the Order if he's one of us and will likely be killed by our Overlord, I hardly think it warrants a vote. I mean, do you legitimately think he's scum, or what? Doesn't look like it from the looks of your post. Isn't it important to kill Odor Eaters, not useless Penises? If Durmmy wasn't lying, I'd be voting your sorry megablocks right now.

[Helena Hippopaw]

Vote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

I don't like you, or your horrible counting skills! Plus, I've heard through the grapevine that only scum can't count.

This is not a good reason at all... I want to change my vote to you!

Exactly, because you can't count. It's called a shot in the dark. You're coming up as suspicious to me, and I don't like it.

No, there's been dumber reasons for votes, believe me.

I don't think there have been. This is it! i will vote for you!

At this point I don't really care which one of you is lynched, as long as it isn't me. I know I'm a member of the Order of the Penis, but I can't say the same about any of you.

But I have to pick someone to vote, so I'm going to start with the one who is the biggest liability.

Vote: Flabflom Flimflam

If you don't know even the basic rules, then what good could you be to our cause?

I want to vote for you and kind of for Flabflom! You for the 'not me' thing, but I agrree with your logic. Everyone knows no editing. That's a dangerous thing to not know.

Ok, I prayed.

Maybe I have come out a little strongly on Ariattny, sorry Ariattny .

She did not "ask" for my true identity, but she was trying to get me to reveal my true identity.

Hope that clears everything.

The Gods can bear my testimony.

This is very very strange. She didn't ask, but she was trying to get you to reveal

Ariattny, can you verify this? If you can, I will change my vote to someone else who's suspicious. If not, this is for the best.

Unvote: Lulu Pitollo

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

[Ariattny Sugarbottom]

I am actually very tempted to switch my vote to Snarky. I didn't realize it before, but with all the suspects we got going on. It's actually quite difficult to get over seven votes to reach a lynch, perhaps less so now Krup is gathering the,. Also, note he basically says that he is a 100% fine with lynching an unhelpful townie. I am holding off on voting for Krup, as I would like to hear a good explanation from him.

Ariattny, can you verify this? If you can, I will change my vote to someone else who's suspicious. If not, this is for the best.

I already said this, I did not at any point ask/fish/try to get a reveal/pressure or anything.

[Catalina Kittywhisker]

I want to vote for you and kind of for Flabflom! You for the 'not me' thing, but I agrree with your logic. Everyone knows no editing. That's a dangerous thing to not know.

While I think that it was pretty stupid of Flabflom to edit his post, I don't think this makes him worth a vote. I do agree it doesn't make him as valuable of a member to our cause, but does a mistake like that make him worth a vote? I don't think it does, and I think we've seen more suspicious people and activity than Flabflom's post editing.

Also, Snarky, the way you voted for Flabflom, to me at least, made it seem like you were assuming he was a member of The Order of the Penis. It just seemed like you were thinking he was more unhelpful than scummy. And, like I said, there has been some scummy activity that is better to branch off than the unhelpfulness.... for now, at least. I think we could definitely look into unhelpful people later, but I don't think it would be the best lynch for day 1.

[Helena Hippopaw]

I am actually very tempted to switch my vote to Snarky. I didn't realize it before, but with all the suspects we got going on. It's actually quite difficult to get over seven votes to reach a lynch, perhaps less so now Krup is gathering the,. Also, note he basically says that he is a 100% fine with lynching an unhelpful townie. I am holding off on voting for Krup, as I would like to hear a good explanation from him.

I already said this, I did not at any point ask/fish/try to get a reveal/pressure or anything.

Thanks. Durmudgulus confirmed you didn't ask, but he still says you were fishing. Maybe it's a disagreement on what fishing is, or maybe one of you is lying. Can you tell us exactly what you said? It's not allowed to say what others said to you, but you can say what you said. That would let us know what Durm is thinking.

Or maybe Durm can paraphrase it, because I'm confused about what's going on. I'd hate for Krup to flip town and have us wondering what happened

While I think that it was pretty stupid of Flabflom to edit his post, I don't think this makes him worth a vote. I do agree it doesn't make him as valuable of a member to our cause, but does a mistake like that make him worth a vote? I don't think it does, and I think we've seen more suspicious people and activity than Flabflom's post editing.

Yes, he's the least of the four animals I suspected there.

[Langston Lionheart]

Ok, I prayed.

Maybe I have come out a little strongly on Ariattny, sorry Ariattny .

She did not "ask" for my true identity, but she was trying to get me to reveal my true identity.

Hope that clears everything.

The Gods can bear my testimony.

So, so far you and Ariattny have been approaching people in the very early hours of the game? Is that right (sorry, I can't put too much time towards analysis today and I fear I may misread something, but this is what my quick reading is giving me)? I don't think this got cleared up, but Ariattny did not contact you first? Or was it that Ariattny denied (referring to "that's a flat out lie") asking for your identity?

What ponders me, about you Arriatny, is your need to call out Krup on his "true identity"? I would think there'd be no need, as if finding out the identity rewards you a cookie?

Currently, neither would warrant my vote. It's a bit unorthodox to start throwing potatoes so early, but I can't find a particular reason why an Odor Eater would do that. Arriatny, I don't see why he would want to point out somebody based on something Krup did (is that evidence still available?), but otherwise also not particularly Odory. I shouldn't rule out neutral motives, though, especially for Krup, looking to form his own neutral group?

Another interesting thing I picked up on was Snarky, with his "I don't particularly care..." attitude. It's odd, and, again, I have to ask of neutral motives. Then again, he's quite obvious about it, so I don't know Panck brings up a good point about his capitalization on penalty votes.

Godric gives a poor effort for his first vote (and a poor reply for his reason to vote Ariattny) and then switches to Krup, which, in his explanation, I don't particularly see how Krup was trying to get rid of Ariattny.

I'm not ready to place my vote yet, but I'll be back after some more studying to make an (well, as much I can) informed decision.

[Catalina Kittywhisker]

After talking to Krup a little in private, I have to say that I'm feeling less and less inclined to vote for him. His suspicions make no sense and he doesn't seem to be pushing for me not to vote for him like a scum would usually do. I'm thinking he's just a completely confused Townie. I think a scum would make their defense look more perfect and I'm starting to think he contacted so many people so early because he was just a confused Townie and didn't know any better. Like others have said, contacting people so early just seems too strange for an Odor Eater to do. Unvote: Durmudgelous Krup

I still think it would be great if Snarky could respond to my comment about his vote for Flabflom whenever he gets back.

[Drubulum Panck]

I too am still somewhat confused about the Ariattny/Durmedgelous affair. I know we're not allowed to direcly quote magically private messages, but could you both try to make it a little clearer what actually was said?

For now the main reason I would consider voting for Durmedgelous is the way he responded to the arguments against him. However, if it seems obvious that he lied about Ariattny, then he should obviously be our lynch target.