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This is a great topic. I consider myself to be 99% Lego Purist, but I will use 3rd party wheels simply because the larger ones look and perform much better. Also if you want to sell your large Lego wheels, not being scratched up with help with resale value.

Heres my contribution to custom parts, I simply had to do this as there is no other way to get the strength.

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After installing a brand new CV joint and testing my Patria 8x8 I destroyed a CV in 4 seconds on level ground!

I feel this was necessary because I have not changed the part design or its function in any way, simply improved the material.

It works perfectly fine now, and I feel confident that it will withstand some offloading.

You could argue that without this mod the model would not be possible, and I would agree with you. However I'm trying to build the model like it really exists, and I believe dedication to accuracy is more important in most cases.

Feel free to express your opinion on what I have done. I don't effend, so all good. Just interested to know. :sweet:

Can I buy some of those modified cv joints from you or could you tell me how to modify them?

Edited by TwentyLeggedHen
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Can I buy some of those modified cv joints from you or could you tell me how to modify them?

Yes I'm happy to make some and sell them to you. :classic: How many would you want?

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Yes I'm happy to make some and sell them to you. :classic: How many would you want?

I would like to buy 4! How much do they cost?

I'll work it out soon, but I won't be back till 3:00!

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I would like to buy 4! How much do they cost?

I'll work it out soon, but I won't be back till 3:00!

CV joints new seem to be about $2.00US on BL for USA stores, so including my time and material I feel $20 for 4 is reasonable? :sweet:

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CV joints new seem to be about $2.00US on BL for USA stores, so including my time and material I feel $20 for 4 is reasonable? :sweet:

Do you have any modified at the time? I just spent 8 usd on cv joints, so could I send them to you to modify them? Then, of course, if you already have them modifed, then I can't do that, and shipping might be too much of a hassle considering you are in Australia. I'll have to get some money by working in the yard, I can probably have it by today or tomorrow.

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Basically I'm against modding Lego parts, because I think the challenge of making it work with Lego is half the hobby, but there is exceptions that I agree to. I will list some here. I don't care if others like it or not, but those few MOC's that I present to the public I try to keep as mod free as possible to enable others to rebuild them.

Parts I do mod or plan to mod include:

- Parts that are obviously to week in their original form (like the CV joint),

- PF lights as they are way to expensive (and by making my own I don't make it easier to build, only cheaper),

- PF batteries; 9 V battery as a compact power source for low power applications where it's impossible to use standard battery-boxes (the rechargeable is way to expensive), as well as modding the standard box with rechargeable batteries to save money,

- unintended combinations of parts (like the custom U-joint), because they strictly speaking aren't a modification to a part, but existing parts.

- Non Lego tires on Lego rims, this is mostly because of looks as the current line of Lego tires is very little lifelike...

- Non Lego rubber bands, because the Lego ones are to expensive

- PF-receiver modified to RF, to get better reach and less "noise"... I haven't gotten around to do this yet, but I really want to, as the current IR system is way to restricted for outdoor use.

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- PF-receiver modified to RF, to get better reach and less "noise"... I haven't gotten around to do this yet, but I really want to, as the current IR system is way to restricted for outdoor use.

I would be very interested in that! :wink:

Do you have any modified at the time? I just spent 8 usd on cv joints, so could I send them to you to modify them? Then, of course, if you already have them modifed, then I can't do that, and shipping might be too much of a hassle considering you are in Australia. I'll have to get some money by working in the yard, I can probably have it by today or tomorrow.

Send you a message :sweet:

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yeah i know, but i used them to fill these rubber parts in the clutch to avoid damaging them :)

and added a 1mm gauge to the grey part on the central axle just to make everything more precise

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That makes more sense.....
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Since we have chosen to work with lego, concessions must be made. It is not possible to work in any exact scale because you must round up or down to the nearest stud, similarly, it is not possible for TLG to make new convincing representations of particular machines without inventing new parts.

If then you want to build something that TLG does not yet make it is possible that you will require something that does not yet exist.

There are some things that TLG simply do not make that in my opinion can not be omitted from a model, consequently, I make and include them. Windscreens, mirror glass, stickers, etc.

These are vital for realism and are enhancements to the lego, complementary parts even.

I have cut one of these to make two of these, but I expect that this does not count as a modification.

I have also cut this in half to make this footstep, because that is the only way when scale dictates that 3l is required.

I agree with Nazgarot; 'I don't care if others like it or not',

Sometimes I see posts on this forum that make me smile, from some who aspire to take the moral high ground, describing themselves as 'purists' ..... It (to them) is a terrible 'sin' if someone makes an 'illegal' part.... But, it is wonderful if TLG makes the same part because it is vital for looks or function.

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In my opinion it's all game, as long as the end product is still recognisable as lego. I try to modify as little as possible, but sometimes it's just necessary.

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Since we have chosen to work with lego, concessions must be made. It is not possible to work in any exact scale because you must round up or down to the nearest stud, similarly, it is not possible for TLG to make new convincing representations of particular machines without inventing new parts.

If then you want to build something that TLG does not yet make it is possible that you will require something that does not yet exist.

There are some things that TLG simply do not make that in my opinion can not be omitted from a model, consequently, I make and include them. Windscreens, mirror glass, stickers, etc.

These are vital for realism and are enhancements to the lego, complementary parts even.

I have cut one of these to make two of these, but I expect that this does not count as a modification.

I have also cut this in half to make this footstep, because that is the only way when scale dictates that 3l is required.

I agree with Nazgarot; 'I don't care if others like it or not',

Sometimes I see posts on this forum that make me smile, from some who aspire to take the moral high ground, describing themselves as 'purists' ..... It (to them) is a terrible 'sin' if someone makes an 'illegal' part.... But, it is wonderful if TLG makes the same part because it is vital for looks or function.

I completely agree with you.

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It is just a matter of choice. I'm, personally, not going to modify any parts, since I consider it as a cheat. The real challenge is to design a strong build with what you have. Or, imagine, as the extreme opposite state, one could just clue everything just in any way he wants, making some crazy illegal connections of parts. Anyway he's not going to be put in jail for that.

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The main underlying thought on custom part is at what cost.

@ aqaz: Turning one part in to two parts that don't exist. Very good! I cut a thin 1x7 liftarm in half to make two 1x3 thin liftarms for this engine design.

The real challenge is to design a strong build with what you have.

That is why I use J-B weld. It is the worlds strongest epoxy.

Edited by Boxerlego
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@ aqaz: Turning one part in to two parts that don't exist. Very good!

What? The part he made 2 of, does exist, although it has friction ridges and the part he cut appears to not have that.

Do I misunderstand your line?

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So... i made wheel hubs that finally satisfy me.

https://www.dropbox....vn66/9dlQgLUHKZ

Those small turntables are awesome, They do not have any slack and are perfect for hubs.

So, what purpose does this serve? As you showed, the 42000 hubs already work like that. Is there something more to the turntables that makes that design better?

Anyway, I personally don't mod parts. If I were to, I'd make sure that they were, A.) Repeatable easily, B.) Versatile. (I would never glue parts for that reason.) and C.) not available. Although, I have made some parts out of non Lego materials, like the string in my crane.

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