Harriet Slutter and the Philosopher's Balls: Chapter 2

[Belinda Bugglesby]

Vote: Wong Wang

Your posts have a scummy flair to them, maybe you're just confused? I'm not sure, but at the moment nobody is pinging me too hard, except you and Langston Lionheart. He's making long posts, but they don't have a lot of substance, and just seem like they're there to allay suspicion.

His first post, he immediately defends himself against a minor accusation by Purplonia Pink. Then does the basic talk about night kills, which is usually wasteful small talk in my opinion. Then redirects attention with a question regarding the Gladiator role. (Which, anyone with mastery of Magic can do a simple search through the Internetatius Book...) It doesn't sit right with me, but I think Wong has more evidence and scummy behavior behind him. So that's where my vote is going.

[Godric Goaty-Blather]

I'm not exactly sure who to vote for. I've talked with Drumudgelous privately and I've come to a conclusion that he's a vanilla townie. As for Wong Wang, I think he's a scared townie, but I find him upsetting because of the action he has.

What if there's a chance that he's able to use the gladiator curse again? We weren't exactly confirmed that it was a one shot action. What if he's able to manipulate the vote every day? Therefore, I:

Vote: Wong Wang

I've never seen such an action used before so I'm not sure what the precedent is. All I know is that he caused the death of a townie yesterday and he's been odd today.

[Orion Kettleboil]

Yawwwn, hello, friends!

Wong is scum. He didn't get the same message we did. Jerky way to do things, but there you go.

Okay then. I hate to have it come to that, but if he didn't get the same message as you did, then he's either scum or neutral. He seems to be feigning ignorance about this matter, so scum it is.

Vote: Wong Wang

If he does flip scum, I'd just like to say that I'm very sorry for encouraging him to claim in-thread so he wouldn't be lynched after he claimed to me via potato message (yes, yesterday was partly my fault ).

That's the dumbest thing I've heard, even from me.

So you did get the same PM as her? Or no?

[Timly Dimplebop]

This is really strange too. Timly has nothing much to say, but when pressured, the last two vote-getters are his suspicious ones. Not for any reason, just 'cause And they don't find quiet people suspicious. I wonder if that has anthing to do with the fact that they are one of the quietest?

I provided my reasons for being suspicious of Krup and Wong:

Wong: Could Wong be neutral and still have the gladiator role? We are having a hard time reconciling his words/actions with this supposed townie role.

Krup: We don't believe we ever got to a satisfactory conclusion to your fiasco. Sure, the tides were changing, but Bert and I aren't satisfied and don't want your strange behaviors swept under the rug.

And if you would have read my comments, I provided my reasoning for not being as suspicious of quiet ones as well. Yes, so far I have been one of the quietest, but I know I am OotP and can see that perhaps other quieter ones could also be OotP. I don't know of course, but I'm looking for something more.

I'll add that the more I think about it the more Wong has to be an OE or at best a 3rd party. I just can't fathom his behavior being OotP.

Vote: Wong Wang

Oh, and Bert agrees with everything I have said.

[Bartholomew Bearbutt]

This is really strange too. Timly has nothing much to say, but when pressured, the last two vote-getters are his suspicious ones. Not for any reason, just 'cause And they don't find quiet people suspicious. I wonder if that has anthing to do with the fact that they are one of the quietest?

The quiet animals are suspicious to me because they could be afraid to make mistakes when they speak up and I agree there are too many quite animals around. Timly needs to give us more opinion of what he thinks rather than fluff, and also Purplonia who turned up to call out quite people and then just disappeared again.

His first post, he immediately defends himself against a minor accusation by Purplonia Pink. Then does the basic talk about night kills, which is usually wasteful small talk in my opinion. Then redirects attention with a question regarding the Gladiator role. (Which, anyone with mastery of Magic can do a simple search through the Internetatius Book...) It doesn't sit right with me, but I think Wong has more evidence and scummy behavior behind him. So that's where my vote is going.

He was a bit defensive at the start of the day, promised more analysis and then only looked at what happened this morning for clues and repeated what people already said about the kills. I'm not impressed by his contributions yet!

As for Wong Wang, I think he's a scared townie, but I find him upsetting because of the action he has.

What if there's a chance that he's able to use the gladiator curse again? We weren't exactly confirmed that it was a one shot action. What if he's able to manipulate the vote every day? Therefore, I:

You think he's a townie and your voting for him because he might use the curse again?

So you did get the same PM as her? Or no?

Don't you mean the same PM as we all got? Or did you get a diffrent one too?

Yes, it was a risk and one I was willing to take.

You still hanent explained why you didn't claim your role before using the curse, because maybe if you had you could have made a better decision, or at least discussed it with us. You also didn't explian why you suddenly thought Snarky was town overnight when you chose him to go up agaisnt yesterday. Your role could still be a scum role, and your still not helping us. Vote: Wong Wang

Wherever you go, whatever you do, I will be right here waiting for yooouuuu. Whatever it takes, or how my heart breaks, I will be right here waiting for yooouuu.

[Hinckley]

Mod note:

The Rules:

Do not attempt to use the structure of your role PM to your advantage.

vote tally

Drubulum Pank: 5 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty)

Ariattny Sugarbottom: 5 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty)

Orion Kettleboil: 5 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty)

Wong Wang 7 votes (Drubulum Pank, Lulu Pittoolo, Belinda Bugglesby, Godric Goaty-Blather, Orion Kettleboil, Timly Dimplebop, Bartholomew Bearbutt)

Timly Dimplebop: 1 vote (Helena Hippopaw)

[Purplonia Pink]

Sorry for my absence so far today; moggul school had me super busy!

I'm not exactly sure who to vote for. I've talked with Drumudgelous privately and I've come to a conclusion that he's a vanilla townie. As for Wong Wang, I think he's a scared townie, but I find him upsetting because of the action he has.

What if there's a chance that he's able to use the gladiator curse again? We weren't exactly confirmed that it was a one shot action. What if he's able to manipulate the vote every day? Therefore, I:

Vote: Wong Wang

I've never seen such an action used before so I'm not sure what the precedent is. All I know is that he caused the death of a townie yesterday and he's been odd today.

I'm quoting this post but there are many others like it; if you are convinced or at least think that Wong is town then why do you vote for him, it makes no sense!!

As far as the action in question; Do you really think that someone would have an action that allows them to "manipulate" the vote every day? No it's improbable I would even be so bold as to say that it's impossible!!

The one possible scenario that I can imagine is that others would have the same ability but I am confident Wong cannot use his curse again and based on the nature of the curse that it was a town action.

I will not vote for Wong today as it is pretty clear to me (and apparently to most of you as well) that he is town.

[Lulu Pittoolo]

Cock-a-doodle-doo!

you thought Wang was town yesterday. You voted for Snarky. What changed?

I said I was inclined to believe he was town. I also said I wasn't sure. What changed? Well, first of all, Snarky is dead and was town. That alone changes the situation quite a bit, don't you think? Also, I didn't know much about the gladiator back then, and I've been thinking about the role a bit, how the town would use it and how the scum would use it. In general, I started to look at the role from a different perspective and came to the conclusion, if I was a scum gladiator, that's exactly how I'd use the role.

I'm not exactly sure who to vote for. I've talked with Drumudgelous privately and I've come to a conclusion that he's a vanilla townie. As for Wong Wang, I think he's a scared townie, but I find him upsetting because of the action he has.

What if there's a chance that he's able to use the gladiator curse again? We weren't exactly confirmed that it was a one shot action. What if he's able to manipulate the vote every day? Therefore, I:

Vote: Wong Wang

I've never seen such an action used before so I'm not sure what the precedent is. All I know is that he caused the death of a townie yesterday and he's been odd today.

Wait, you think he's town, yet you vote for him because of the action he has? He didn't state directly that the role was one-shot, and I agree it could harm the town even if Wong is town, but it would be so incredibly broken if it was not one-shot. Also, he doesn't have to use the role, if he is town. Once again you're voting for someone for reasons that are just absolutely horrible.

Cock-a-doodle-doo!

[Twatty Tittlesteen]

How does it make sense to be a scum action but "very unlikely" to be an OE action? OE=scum. Unless you mean not a dedicated action, but rather something part of a jack-of-all-trades role? In that way, it seems much more plausible, if Willy Wangy is scum/OE.

Sorry, I got kind of confused writing that. I've had confuseditis a lot lately. I meant it seems to make sense as an OE/scum action, but at the same time, I saw it as very unlikely to be an OE/scum action, so I am a bit torn on voting for Wong, because even though I can see how the action fits as scum, I have a hard time seeing how it would be a scum action in this game. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't so right now I'll cast my vote towards somebody who hasn't been talking a lot. This vote is just to get them talking, and I will unvote when they are talking both more frequently, and when I am more-so convinced as of now that Wong is an Odor Eater. This person has talked today, but not a lot that I have noticed.

Vote: Firuz Foxtail

[Wong Wang]

Vote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

Some things you have said are a little... interesting... I"m voting for you to see what becomes of this. I know I'm town, and I know people don't believe me. But there are bigger things here than me (well, except for my wang).

[Ariattny Sugarbottom]

I promised I would take a thorough look at Wong Wang's statements. I have 9001 points:

Either way, be it somebody being talkative or being quiet can lead us down the wong path. We have to be careful. I though, want to hear what this name is before I cast a vote.

Wong's first serious statement. He seems to be very wishy washy. Possibly scum behaviour, but not sure at all. This statement doesn't really add a lot of substance. He states the three possibilities and repeats what someone else already said. Scum tend to make substanceless posts, or posts that seem like they have substance. Nothing major.

A mislynch is the worst thing we could do. I do agree an under-the-radar- mislynch can be better to that of an active, but only to an extent. Our numbers would be cut down by one, something all of you know, even those who can't perform mathematical operations very well.

Again, obvious and nothing of substance. After these posts, our very own Bartholomew Bearbutt called him out on these useless posts, here is his response:

I have to say add in that I'm concerned on the PM thing as well. I know that talking in private could yield some clues, but a good Odor Eater probably knows that and would hide everything anyway. We can't not lynch somebody either, or else the Odor Eaters will have an advantage tonight and we don't want that. It's been mathematically proven before. There's magic in the air, and it's not good magic.

I am worried to lynch a penis, even though I know it is inevitable most likely the first day. As for repeating, sometimes it helps me to know what is going on if it is repeated, the more times it is said or heard, we're adding one for it is being heard, we have a better memory of what people have said, and it specifically helps me. I'm sorry if it is not helpful to you or others.

So yes, I am scared we will mislynch but I am also scared if we don't lynch. I'm still trying to figure this all out in my head. Theoretical idealogies are not my strong point. Math and formulas suit me, so excuse me if I am wong and out of my element when trying to form theories. As I said before, it helps me if I repeat something, or it is said multiple times, adding things on.

Note: He's basically defending himself already here. He says it's okay to repeat things. ... What? It seems he jumped the fence here. He seems agitated, driven in the corner by a single statement. Very interesting.

I know I probably don't look useful if it seems I am repeating stuff or seemingly saying things just for the sake of seeing things.

How insightful! So... nothing else? Okay....

Part of me wants to agree with Twatty that it is weird that early, but then again, it does sort of seem like a good idea to send out random messages to see what sticks.

Also, if we voted based on mathematical ability, nobody could vote for me. That would be stupid. Anyway we are slowly running out of time for the day. I sort of want to vote for Lulu just because she has been seemingly silent, but then again also vote for Flabflom just because you have the most votes, but that's only because of a weird penalty these Alien Gods people keep talking about gave you.

He wants to vote for someone who is quiet? And vote for someone that has the most votes, because they have the most votes? No that isn't weird at all.

I wasn't saying I am voting for you. It's just one of those thoughts of what happens of the vote is split?

This is to Flabflom, in response to that. A really scummy thought if you ask me. What happens if the vote is split? We unsplit it, obviously. Simple as that. Another driven-in-the-corner defense, I think. He was also called out for not responding much to the Krup discussion, by Flabflom, a little bit later.

I'm covering all the options. Some go for the bigger leads; I go for the smaller ones.

why is there no Shakespeare to math formula dictionary yet?

I'm willing to contribute to a democracy of death. (Should I add "est" to the end of words? English is not my game) I'm just being cautious. And is affliction like the guy who made a muggle movie about a man sneaking into a country to make another movie but really sneak out a bunch of people who escaped some facility? Like that guy?

Anyway, I am not going to use a vote on Bearbutt, not today. To me, though he has rubbed me the wrong way, he is doing what a good OoTP member would do and question everything. But that could also be the way he could cover up if he is an Odor Eater. I'm going to watch for just a bit longer to decide who I'll vote for. Two hours at the most.

I'll be honest, a lot of what he says makes me want to cringe. That first part? Ugh. If he's town, I don't know, It's pretty rude, but you might need some more education. Rest of the post is basically useless. I fail to see how Bearbutt's words were suspicious in any way, myself. Note that Dillpickle calls both Wong Wang and Bearbutt out. I can't see the reason he would call Bearbutt out though. Did he mean because he wasn't dealing with the Krup thing? Hm.

Drubulum calls out Wong Wang for being completely useless at this point. Also, the two hours Wong mentioned came and went. Belinda votes for him. He doesn't respond.

You meant to say:

Right? No? Anyway I can agree with your logic against me all accept for the part when it comes to Flabflom and and Snarky. Yes I did say that Flabflom has (though maybe D has more at the moment) the most votes, but that's only because of the Alien Overlord gave 6 punishments out to him and Snarky decided to vote for Flabflom. I admit that I have not found anything scummy on Flabflom. I only said I may vote for him because he has so many votes, and not by a bandwagon. In this democracy of death, as one has called it earlier, we can vote, we all know that. Yet, the voting, as is directly democratic and not an electoral college (something some people in a story came up with), can become evenly split amongst the voters, or even take votes away.

Let's say there are two people running for the leader of the Order of the Penis, and one is clearly winning. But if a third person comes in and gains enough traction, that person could pull enough votes away from the original frontrunner and then bring both of them down, leaving the second candidate a lead to become the leader. There are some other examples of this in stories (something about some bull and a moose and I want to say a bear) as well as some store who took some votes from some blood thing and somehow some foliage won something. those are some interesting stories I'll have to share later.

While I am sure this has not changed your mind, hopefully you can at least understand where I am coming from in regard to Snarky and Flabflom.

But anyway, I Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

Why? he has the word mud in his name (and mud can ruin my math papers). In all seriousness, I vote Krup because something is going weird with him, the numbers in my body can feel it.

I can agree with your logic. Here's a few irrelevant sentences, I vote Krup, not because of what we know, but because he is weird. That is his post here. What the hell. Timly calls the Wong ordeal trivial. Krup says Wong (and Snarky as well) could be lying low while this whole thing is going on. Twatty switches her vote to Wong, with the reasoning that Wong didn't defend himself at all. Which is a good point I will return to in a bit. Dillpickle unvotes Bartholomew, and is seemingly conflicted between Wang and Krup, before deciding on Krup. Is it impossible to say Dillpickle is Wong's ally who came to his aid when Bartholomew was the first to raise attention to Wong? Bartholomew questioned why he was being accused in the first place, something which I haven't figured out yet either. The Bear votes for Wong as well, with the added argument that Wong seemed to wait to see which bandwagon to take. Drubulum said Wong was very silent since he was accused.

Lulu raises several points (which where mostly already raised against Wong, but votes for Snarky instead) Something interesting, she calls him she half the time she is talking about. Knowledge we have not? Or?

OOC: My internet provider at school for somereason blocked EB today when it never has before, so that's why no response

I'm not looking for a fight from anybody. I think that was a decent defense

As for the jumping on the bandwagon idea you brought up, maybe to some it seems like I did. It seems like you have criticized me for being cautious with my vote, but when I do vote, you accuse me of being a bandwagoner. Yes, I admit that "something is weird with him" probably is not the greatest reason to vote, but it's better than bandwagoning. Day 1 lynches are always difficult; nobody can really prove except from scummy behavior over the day. I'm choosing what I think is the better option between a lot of bad choices. If I had my way, we would not vote today, and all the Odor Eaters would magically disappear and never be heard from again. (Is there a spell for that?) But that's in a perfect world, and we are not in a perfect world right now.

Wong completely breaks character, whatever that means, And he calls his own defense decent? What defense? I haven't missed a post, have I? Plus useless banter. His rulebreak causes his vote count to spring from 4 to 10 fairly quickly, against Krup's 12 at this point, Flabflom's 6 and Snarky's four. This is were it gets interesting. At this point, Krup makes this post:

Well 12 votes for me. I can close shop early today.

You know, I have this red lacrima powered plastic wand I found behind Burtgun & Buoobs. Since I don't know much about magic, I don't know how it works at night,I guess I never do now. So when ancient scrolls say there is always a reason for someone's actions, you better believe it.

The list?

I have said everything in the day threads. Read again.

My vote?

What's the point. Even if I survive today's lynch, the odors will target me anyway. I know they want that red lacrima.

My last words?

Well done Odors.

Well done OotP, you should all get yourself a pair of clutches. Go ahead, cripple yourself. Go, quick.

Bye now.

Bye

_i_ OotP for Life _i_

To me, this is scummy as megabluck. It's the scummiest thing Krup had done all day, to me at least. Obviously not to everyone, as Langston Lionheart votes for Wong with the reasoning that he likes Drubulum Panck's case, and that he was suspicious of Wang's bandwagony vote for Krup. Okay. He also misreads the rules as he speaks about Majority. Majorities are for scrubs, we use Most! Much better.

I have to be honest and say I know where you are coming from with that vote. I said the same thing earlier when Snarky laid down his vote along with the six penalty votes.

He just said where he was coming from... Helena Hippopaw switches her vote from Krup to Wang at this point, on the basis that Krup did not lie to her in private, so he must be alright. ... Okay.... Not very good reasoning there, but I might be missing something. She calls the votes tied. They weren't.

THIS is where the curse happens. Okay, let's recap. At this point, Six people had voted for Wong, along with his penalty votes he had Twelve. Ten people still had their votes on Krup. There were a few people that hadn't voted ( I think). There was around 8-10 hours (I think) left in the day? Wong had not defended himself. He had not stated anything about this. he just went and did it. Shortly after we got noticed it happened, he posts this:

I like the mathematical possibilities of your comments.

How about explaining shit???? How about stating things clearly???

I will do the rest later, but to me it's not looking good for him.

Vote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

Some things you have said are a little... interesting... I"m voting for you to see what becomes of this. I know I'm town, and I know people don't believe me. But there are bigger things here than me (well, except for my wang).

What does that even mean.

And no, that wasn't a question so it doesn't need a questionmark. It was just a general indication that you're dumb. Deal with it.

[Timly Dimplebop]

Vote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

Some things you have said are a little... interesting... I"m voting for you to see what becomes of this. I know I'm town, and I know people don't believe me. But there are bigger things here than me (well, except for my wang).

If there are bigger things here than you (which I agree with), why did you use a curse on the first day and fully admit that it was to save your own butt? Kind of hard to throw out the "here for the team" defense when you've already admitted you were looking out for yourself.

[Gertrude Tincanchew]

The "day" should not be there in the first place. Since I cannot edit it, it has to be left unedited. Hope that clears it up.

I am just speculating, since we have no night results to rely on. Yes the scum killer could have taken out Flabflom, the interlude [http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=81700&st=225#entry1574614] yesterday seemed to suggest Flabflom had magical powers, alongside with Gertude & Nicholas. If the scum had anything to depend on who to kill yesterday night, I believe that had to be it. I wouldn't be surprised with Gertude or Nicholas goes tonight, unless the scum has someone better to target. If the vig were to take out Regelius for being quiet, I think Timly is quieter than Regelius. Maybe that is the choice the vig had to make. Timly - out of the 5 posts he had made, only 1 meant something, if not anything.

Hey, stupid. Surprised to see you here this morning, guess our vig is incompetent or was blocked. Way to go, reading into joke interludes while subtly incriminating me at the same time! "Herp a derp, I bet Gertrude has a real good night action because she appeared in an interlude! Someone should totes kill her!" I guess you being next to a toilet in today's interlude must mean you're an Odor eater, because toilets are stinky, and Odor Eaters eat stink.

Well, Bert and I went back and did some reminiscing and this is what we've come up with:

Wong: Could Wong be neutral and still have the gladiator role? We are having a hard time reconciling his words/actions with this supposed townie role.

Godric: You acted kind of scummy at the beginning/middle of day 1, but toned it down later on. Which you is the real you?

Krup: We don't believe we ever got to a satisfactory conclusion to your fiasco. Sure, the tides were changing, but Bert and I aren't satisfied and don't want your strange behaviors swept under the rug.

Gertrude: You were very hellbent on Krup yesterday and very confident you could get him lynched, but we haven't heard from you yet today. Are you still after Krup?

We've still got some processing to do, but even plumbers have to take a nap sometimes.

Does this answer your question? I think that Wang is probably scum who Gladiatored to take pressure off Krup and put it onto Snarky when things turned south, then claimed immediately to establish Town cred due to Gladiator being more statistically likely to be Town than Scum. By that theory, they're both Scum, so I'll let you guys drive this bandwagon and I'll Vote: Wong Wang as long as you promise me that Krup gets lynched tomorrow if the vig is still not getting his head in the game.

[Nicholas Dickory]

At the beginning of the day, I was still quite sure Wong was OotP, based on his action, but now I'm not too sure? Based on what Ariattny has said, I am now more willing to question his integrity? I'm not totally convinced he is a stinky Odor Eater just yet, but who's to say he's not a third party?

Having said that, I also don't like the fact that Durmudgelous is still breathing today? I feel like we left some loose ends at the end of yesterday, and we have to take care of them soon? A lot of people were asking the vig to take care of Durm in the night, so why didn't they? Do they know something we don't? Were they unsuccessful? Or did they ignore the cries for his head and go gallavanting off somewhere else (most likely Regelius from the look of things)? I don't think I'll be able to rest until we know for sure what's up with Durm, and the best way to do that is for me to vote?

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

[Catalina Kittywhisker]

I'm not exactly sure who to vote for. I've talked with Drumudgelous privately and I've come to a conclusion that he's a vanilla townie. As for Wong Wang, I think he's a scared townie, but I find him upsetting because of the action he has.

What if there's a chance that he's able to use the gladiator curse again? We weren't exactly confirmed that it was a one shot action. What if he's able to manipulate the vote every day? Therefore, I:

Vote: Wong Wang

I've never seen such an action used before so I'm not sure what the precedent is. All I know is that he caused the death of a townie yesterday and he's been odd today.

Purplonia makes a good point. If you think he's Town then why vote for him? We've already lost 3 Penises and this would just worsen the blow. Also, this isn't the only post you mentioned Wong being Town. You've said in your posts before that you believe Wong to be Town and yet you still end up voting for him. I, on the other hand, do see Wong as scummy because of the evidence people like Sugarbottom have presented. It seems like people like her have been onto Wong since yesterday, so they've been consistent with their posts, unlike you. Also, Firuz is another person that hasn't talked a lot. The only couple times he posted today was when I questioned him. I'm still voting for Wong, but I think Godric and Firuz also come off as really scummy. Vote: Wong Wang

[Twatty Tittlesteen]

I will do the rest later, but to me it's not looking good for him.

Yet you don't vote for him? If you're so sure Wong is scum, wouldn't you vote for him, then continue your analysis, only unvoting if something seems townie about him later? Why wait so long to vote if you seem 100% sure he's scum? You're giving me concerneditis right now.....

[Ariattny Sugarbottom]

Yet you don't vote for him? If you're so sure Wong is scum, wouldn't you vote for him, then continue your analysis, only unvoting if something seems townie about him later? Why wait so long to vote if you seem 100% sure he's scum? You're giving me concerneditis right now.....

I'm not sure at all he's scum. I promised I would look at all he's said and done, and with what I've gone through and recapped now with the information we now have, it's definitely looking as he's very scummy, along with possibly Dillpickle, but don't think I am at 100% or even at 80%. Does it matter when I vote? If I vote before the time's up, it's fine right? Don't see the problem. I'm not trying to prove a point with my vote or use it as pressure, as Wong knows he messed up, or at least I hope so. I have to admit that I have this grinding feeling in my head that says Wong is just a very useless townie that doesn't know up from down and left from right...

If it comforts you: Vote: Wong Wang I can still change it later if I feel like it anyway. I think it's also very useful if we figure out what we learn from lynching Wong exactly, in the case he turns up town. In the case he's scum we have a LOT of leads for follow ups, anyhow. For now I am going to take an act of nobility, I will be back with the rest of the Wong ordeal, and if I can find the time, all the possible leads if we lynch him, with both possibilites. I think at this point Wong might simply be the best lynch as well because he gives us a lot of leads. Who are you voting for, Twatty? Seems a bit odd to call someone out on not voting if you haven't done so yourself...

[Catalina Kittywhisker]

Wong is scum.

I'm not sure at all he's scum.

And Twatty voted for Firuz Foxtail.

[Rutherford HablabbleBibble]

I don't even know anymore...everyone seems to think the degree to which Wong screwed up with his action is just too much to be townie. I half agree, there were a lot of other, smarter things he could've done. But I still can't bring myself to vote for someone I'm conceived is just a townie, no matter how terribly he messed up.

Having said that, I also don't like the fact that Durmudgelous is still breathing today? I feel like we left some loose ends at the end of yesterday, and we have to take care of them soon? A lot of people were asking the vig to take care of Durm in the night, so why didn't they? Do they know something we don't? Were they unsuccessful? Or did they ignore the cries for his head and go gallavanting off somewhere else (most likely Regelius from the look of things)? I don't think I'll be able to rest until we know for sure what's up with Durm, and the best way to do that is for me to vote?

That pretty much sums up my thoughts. I don't feel right letting him slide off the radar just because an even bigger idiot is flailing around and drawing everyone's attention. I'm going to Vote: Durmudgelous Krup. Even in the event Wong is scum - I'll admit it as a possibility, though a doubtful one to me - yesterday's Provocarus Curse fiasco was probably to keep Krup, a fellow scum, afloat.

[Purplonia Pink]

At the beginning of the day, I was still quite sure Wong was OotP, based on his action, but now I'm not too sure? Based on what Ariattny has said, I am now more willing to question his integrity? I'm not totally convinced he is a stinky Odor Eater just yet, but who's to say he's not a third party?

Having said that, I also don't like the fact that Durmudgelous is still breathing today? I feel like we left some loose ends at the end of yesterday, and we have to take care of them soon? A lot of people were asking the vig to take care of Durm in the night, so why didn't they? Do they know something we don't? Were they unsuccessful? Or did they ignore the cries for his head and go gallavanting off somewhere else (most likely Regelius from the look of things)? I don't think I'll be able to rest until we know for sure what's up with Durm, and the best way to do that is for me to vote?

Vote: Durmudgelous Krup

Wo! Back up a bit there ... They? Who's they? Are there more than one vig?

This statement is weird, very weird! Why do you refer to the vig as a plural entity?

[Twatty Tittlesteen]

I'm not sure at all he's scum. I promised I would look at all he's said and done, and with what I've gone through and recapped now with the information we now have, it's definitely looking as he's very scummy, along with possibly Dillpickle, but don't think I am at 100% or even at 80%. Does it matter when I vote? If I vote before the time's up, it's fine right? Don't see the problem. I'm not trying to prove a point with my vote or use it as pressure, as Wong knows he messed up, or at least I hope so. I have to admit that I have this grinding feeling in my head that says Wong is just a very useless townie that doesn't know up from down and left from right...

If it comforts you: Vote: Wong Wang I can still change it later if I feel like it anyway. I think it's also very useful if we figure out what we learn from lynching Wong exactly, in the case he turns up town. In the case he's scum we have a LOT of leads for follow ups, anyhow. For now I am going to take an act of nobility, I will be back with the rest of the Wong ordeal, and if I can find the time, all the possible leads if we lynch him, with both possibilites. I think at this point Wong might simply be the best lynch as well because he gives us a lot of leads. Who are you voting for, Twatty? Seems a bit odd to call someone out on not voting if you haven't done so yourself...

I never said you had to vote yet, I was just asking why you didn't vote for Wong when you sound like you're incredibly sure he's scum. Just a general misunderstanding. And I voted for Firuz. Catalina pretty much summed up my thoughts too.

Wo! Back up a bit there ... They? Who's they? Are there more than one vig?

This statement is weird, very weird! Why do you refer to the vig as a plural entity?

He isn't. "They" is the vig. They can be referred to as one person if it is an unknown person. For example, when Flabflom died, we can refer to the killer as "they" if we were to say "It seems that Flabflom was killed. I wonder why they killed him", which doesn't necessarily imply that the killer was the scum team, but could be the vigilante. So, when he said "they" he meant the vig, implying that he was wondering if "they" (the vig) knew something we didn't. I can see where you got confused, but it's a pretty common way to use the word "they" in scenarios like these. Now stay away from me, I think you've contracted stupiditis.

[Hinckley]

vote tally

Drubulum Pank: 5 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty)

Ariattny Sugarbottom: 6 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, Wong Wang)

Orion Kettleboil: 5 votes (penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty)

Wong Wang: 10 votes (Drubulum Pank, Lulu Pittoolo, Belinda Bugglesby, Godric Goaty-Blather, Orion Kettleboil, Timly Dimplebop, Bartholomew Bearbutt, Gertrude Tincanchew, Catalina Kittywhisker, Ariattny Sugarbottom)

Timly Dimplebop: 1 vote (Helena Hippopaw)

Firuz Foxtail: 1 vote (Twatty Tittlesteen)

Durmudgelous Krup: 2 votes (Nicholas Dickory, Rutherford Hablabble-Bibble)

[Ariattny Sugarbottom]

And Twatty voted for Firuz Foxtail.

I said that as a fact, I don't know facts. If you notice, why I think slightly differently now, check the example thing. Anyone has access to that. It'd be really odd for a scum to insist on it.

And Twatty isn't on the tally, so sorry.

Now she is.

[Twatty Tittlesteen]

"They" can be referred to as one person if it is an unknown person.

Error fixed.

The quotations were new, to make the sentence phrased better.

I said that as a fact, I don't know facts. If you notice, why I think slightly differently now, check the example thing. Anyone has access to that. It'd be really odd for a scum to insist on it.

And Twatty isn't on the tally, so sorry.

Now she is.

It doesn't really sound like you think all that differently. You seem to insist that he is scum, almost. And I hate to be rude, but you didn't need to even check the most recent tally. You could have just looked at my last few posts to see where I voted. It's almost as if you're tunneled onto Wong that you aren't really paying attention to anything else.

I also am noticing that Arriatny is acting very wishy-washty towards Wong. She says that this isn't looking very good for Wong, saying that he is scum, and that he's looking scummier, but then suddenly changes her mind and says that he's a stupid townie. So which one is he, Arriatny? Scum or dumb? You're actually making an itty-bitty "Ping" noise in the back of my head.

[Langston Lionheart]

His first post, he immediately defends himself against a minor accusation by Purplonia Pink. Then does the basic talk about night kills, which is usually wasteful small talk in my opinion. Then redirects attention with a question regarding the Gladiator role. (Which, anyone with mastery of Magic can do a simple search through the Internetatius Book...) It doesn't sit right with me, but I think Wong has more evidence and scummy behavior behind him. So that's where my vote is going.

He was a bit defensive at the start of the day, promised more analysis and then only looked at what happened this morning for clues and repeated what people already said about the kills. I'm not impressed by his contributions yet!

Who? Me? Well, when somebody suspects me (or calls out my name), I would think the proper thing to do would be to address them and try and clarify my position. It begins to become damned if I do, damned if I don't

Anyway, my most present suspicion is Wongsy Wangsy, whom I had some questions for, to which he replied:

Yes, it was a risk and one I was willing to take.

I was hoping for a little more substance than that and then this:

Vote: Ariattny Sugarbottom

Some things you have said are a little... interesting... I"m voting for you to see what becomes of this. I know I'm town, and I know people don't believe me. But there are bigger things here than me (well, except for my wang).

it's a pretty weak vote. Please expand on why you're voting for Ariattny.

Well, based on my qualms about the gladiator issue (since I don't see an easy solution to the question of whether it's town or scum, unless Mr. Wangstus was investigated last night), which the flair Wang handled his role yesterday, and that my questions were left unanswered, I'm going to Vote: Wong Wang for now. I'll change it if he answers them, I'm just trying to get a sense of why he dropped his previous vote for Krup and switched to Snarky. More specifically the spark, the moment that made him decide another person. I apologize if I missed it earlier. I'll leave things off at that for now.

He also misreads the rules as he speaks about Majority. Majorities are for scrubs, we use Most! Much better.

Oh, so it is. My bad. I just assumed it was majority. I wasn't the most attentive person yesterday, for reasons which I've already explained