Hinckley Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Players only please! Day Three has begun. You may not vote in the first 24 hours. Non-playing Characters Harriet Slutter, Female, Student at Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Pandrione Danger, Female, Student at Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Rufus Whingesly, Male, Student at Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Faggo Foogoy, Male, Student at Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Nevrick Longastley, Male, Student at Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Albutt Bumblebore, Male, Headmaster of Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Phallonius Phuckwit, Male, Professor at Pigblister's School of Sorcery and Magicky-doings Odor Eaters / Fermentors / anything evil that needs representation Players (19) Ariattny Sugarbottom, Female, Shopkeep Barkonius Twitch, Male, Gardener Bartholomew Bearbutt, Male, Queefitch Referee Belinda Bugglesby, Female, Potato Post Office Dillpickle Catterweed, Male, Herbologist Drubulum Panck, Male, Dragon Keeper Firuz Foxtail, Male, Alchemist Gertrude Tincanchew, Female, Caretaker Godric Goaty-Blather, Male, Shopkeep Helena Hippopaw, Female, Banker Langston Lionheart, Male, Healer Looney Lumpylove, Female, Applesauce Maker Lulu Pittoolo, Female, Magizoologist Nicholas Dickory, Male, Clock Maker Orion Kettleboil, Male, Astronomer Purplonia Pink, Female, Artist Rutherford Habblable-Bibble, Male, Door-to-door Wand Salesman Timly Dimplebop, Male, Plumber Twatty Tittlesteen, Female, Barmaid The dead Snarky Snickerpuss, Male, Poo Network Repairman, lynched on Day One - Order of the Penis Regelius Snoot, Male, Ambassador, electrocuted on Night One - Order of the Penis Flabflom Flimflam, Male, Magical Maintenance, bonerfied on Night One - Order of the Penis Wong Wang, Male, Mathematician, lynched on Day Two - Order of the Penis Catalina Kittywhisker, Female, Moogle Relations, electrocuted on Night Two - Order of the Penis Boris Biddlesdorf, Male, Goblin Trainer, bonerfied on Night Two - Order of the Penis Durmudgelous Krup, Male, Wandmaker, bonerfied on Night Two - Order of the Penis Objective: The Odor Eaters win when they have outnumbered the Order of the Penis, including any third-parties and the Order of the Penis wins when all of the Odor Eaters are dead, including any third-parties. The Rules: You may not reveal or pretend to reveal your true identity throughout the course of the game. Doing so will result in the immediate death of your character. Likewise, be extra certain you do not post in the game as your real Eurobricks identity. If this gives away which character you are playing, this rule will be applied to that action. Each player will be given a character to play, who will be aligned with either the Order of the Penis or the Odor Eaters. To win the game, the Order of the Penis must kill off all of the Odor Eaters (and any third parties), while the Odor Eaters must outnumber the Order of the Penis (and any third parties). Any third party player will have win conditions that are detailed in their role PM... Each day you will be able to vote to lynch a player. Voting should be done in the following format only; Vote: Character. Similarly, unvoting is to be done in this format only; Unvote: Character. No other format will be accepted. You may also proxy your vote to another player, using this format; proxy: Character. Naturally, unproxying a vote is also possible. The player with the most votes is lynched. In the case of a tie, there will be no lynch. In the case of a no-lynch, a Role Madness night will commence. A Role Madness night favors the Odor Eaters. A game day will last a maximum of 72 hours. You may not vote in the first 24 hours. The day will not end when a majority vote has been reached. If there is time left, a majority vote can be over-turned. After the day has concluded, a night stage will commence, which will last a maximum of 24 hours, unless otherwise noted. Night actions must be sent to the host in the first 20 hours of the night stage, or they will not be accepted, no exceptions. The alignment of lynched players, as well as those that died during the night, will be revealed at the beginning of the next day, barring any interference. 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Violation of this rule will result in a multiple game suspension. If you are converted, you must accept your new affiliation. If it's proven that you gave up your new team after conversion, the whole game will be null and you will most likely not be asked to play one of my games again. You may not edit your posts. You must post in every day thread. You must vote in every day thread. If you have a Night Action, you are required to use it every night, unless otherwise noted. If you have a Night Action, you may not target the same player on three consecutive nights. If you encounter a problem or have a question, please contact the host via PM. Please please please use only the confirmation PM I sent you to communicate with me if you can. Violation of the above rules will result in a penalty of one vote per every four living players (1/4 of the active players list) on the first violation and death of your character on the second. Some additional guidelines, although they are not rules that will incur penalties if you don't follow them: The pictures may or may not contain clues. They most likely do not, but look all you want. Wildly speculate. It's fun. Using acronyms, especially tl;dr, or any 7334 speak will cause major trouble for your character, perhaps even instant death. Roleplaying is a good thing and it is encouraged in this game and will be required at some point. So get to know your personality quirks, they've been created for a reason. You have all been sent a role PM in this format: Name: Alignment: Order of the Penis or 3rd Party or Odor Eaters Role: You make your living in the wizarding world as a (occupation). You have the strange personality quirk (personality quirk). Action: Your wand is made of (wood) with a (material) core and your special magic (spell, charm, curse, potion) is (Action*). (Action explanation) *Note that the name of the Action is a Latin mashup of the actual action. 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Gertrude Tincanchew Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Wow. I am honestly shocked that they both were Penises. What were they smoking when they were posting to make them think they were doing anything remotely intelligent? Time to take a jaunt through the previous day threads, I guess.
Nicholas Dickory Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Three deaths in one night, eh? We must have a serial killer on the loose, mustn't we? I can't think of a reason why there'd be two scum killers, hmm? It does genuinely surprise me that Durmudgelous was a Penis, doesn't it? Well, even if he was, he wasn't a very helpful one, was he? It is an unfortunate loss, but now that we know the truth about Wong and Durm, perhaps we can move forward, yes? We were all screaming for the vig to take out Durm during the night, so it seems likely that that is indeed what happened, doesn't it? If that is so, then the vig would be the Torpeo killer, wouldn't they? Which of course leads to my next question: where was the vig on Night One? Were they blocked? Did they not kill? This is curious, isn't it?
Ariattny Sugarbottom Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Ugh. Damn it, Wong. So... let's see. Every person I ever really suspected is dead and turned up town. Good for your confidence... At this very moment I'm trying to see if there's any good ways to see scum among the voters, although I doubt it, as the three people that were under high scrutiny, Krup, Wong and Snarky, were all town. The scum could easily switch and hide between them... I'm going to look for people that casually switched their votes just to make sure one of those was lynched, I guess.
Rutherford HablabbleBibble Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Well, thanks anyway, vig. (I assume.) At least Krup's not floating around my radar like a dead fly in the toilet anymore. It's just frustrating to see such a useless person be townie, and the same goes for Wong. Can't the idiots get stuck on the scum team for once? So, four penises down...that's no good. The votes have been so all over the place the last two days, I almost don't want to have to sift through them all to look for sous-chefs...but what else can we do at this point?
Helena Hippopaw Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 That was not too surprising. I really don't understand why everyone would bet Snarky's life day one the Wang is town, then half you lynch him yesterday. We need townies. Seven gone in two days is bad. The vig probably killed Durm. Catalina spoke a lot yesterday, so maybe someone was scared of her. I think there were a lot of weak bandwagoners yesterday, and unless we have a solid lead, those are the best choice. It's not that you lynched a townie, it's that you didn't really care. Showing up once a day, jumping on a bandwagon, kill a townie. We don't need that Some like godric or Timly are being very scummy to me. And Twatty, I didn'T forget this: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=81811&st=150#entry1579082 What I want to know is how you expect 5 people to unvote Wong for your benefit, within an 8 hour period. I don't think there is enough time, considering we all live in different time zones, despite living in the same village. I will be shocked, but I can't see the lynch turning around. Sorry. I just don't see it as possible, or able to be done. Just because Wong is likely going to be lynched doesn't mean that all the votes cast for him are scum. It's not for my benifit, it was for our benifit. And I don't think all votes for him are scum, just some. Why wouldn't they?
Barkonius Twitch Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Well, can't say I'm at all surprised. Rutherford, you ask why the idiots aren't ever stuck on the scum team. It's because they are a TEAM, and so stop each other from flailing. Wild flailing like Krup and Wong... those were clear panics of people all alone. I'm sorry to see them go, but am happy that people may finally begin to focus on some more Odor-esque posters. Funnily enough, for once in... life... we can see exactly how much people have contributed. Just look to the left... and you'll see some sort of tally of how much we've spoken... must be some magical thingy.... Anyway, those who pinged me yesterday continue to ping. Rutherford, for example, offers up the startling statement that he doesn't feel motivated to go look at the only thing we have to go off of: voting patterns. Godric has lost two of his accusers from yesterday, and ended yesterday by saying that he was convinced that Wong was Odor (though earlier he said he seemed Penis), and ended the day by saying that he no longer believed Wong could use his action twice, the thing he cited as proof that Wong was scum. Dillpickle has been throwing around all these phrases, but his actions have been reserved and under the radar while still lots of actions going on, and he joined the bandwagon late yesterday, a good place for scum to be (a "part of the majority" but not "a leading lyncher of town"). Gertrude too remains extremely defensive and led the crusade on Wong and Krup, and will now defend herself by claiming she's just a leading townie who made a mistake. What are the thoughts of the day, folks? I'll be over here trimming the hedges into the shapes of our dearly departed. Tell me when you have actual opinions and not just lame reactions of sadness.
Rutherford HablabbleBibble Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Anyway, those who pinged me yesterday continue to ping. Rutherford, for example, offers up the startling statement that he doesn't feel motivated to go look at the only thing we have to go off of: voting patterns. Motivated, no. That doesn't mean I'm not going to, as I implied. Going through half a dozen pages of voting, unvoting, and revoting just isn't very exiting.
Firuz Foxtail Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 I'll skip the lame reaction of sadness. I noticed that one of the kills used the same spell as yesterday - Flabflom was killed with the Bifficus Stifficus spell yesterday and so was Boris today. Durmudgelous was killed by the Torpeo Obrigescunt spell. This suggests Boris was another scum kill and our vig did listen to the calls for him/her to take out Durmudgelous. Leaving Catalina as the victim of the SK.
Purplonia Pink Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 First let's get the formalities out of the way; how not surprising! I told you so ... I guess! Now are people willing to scrutinize the people who led the lynch on Wong and had Krup killed?
Drubulum Panck Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 An ode to Wong (alternatively, the odd that's Wong): Act 1, Scene 1, Day 1: A cute, fluffy fabuland animal sits twiddling his thumbs. Let’s call him P1. P1: *twiddle, twiddle* Krup Enters. Krup: Hey, I know that there is a bandwagon going against me, but you shouldn’t vote for me today or tomorrow. P1: Oh…okay…well, right now I’m more suspicious of Snarky than you anyway. Krup: Great. I’ll feed you any information I get my hands on. By the way, I can be your mouthpiece if you have a plan. P1: Uh…okay? The only plan I have now is to find the scum and lynch them, so… Curtains close. Act 2, Scene 1, Day 2: A cute fabuland animal sits twiddling his thumbs. Let’s call him Panck, Drubulum Panck. Panck: *twiddle, twiddle* P1 Enters: P1: Hey, Panck, I’ve been giving this pamphlet out and thought you may want to read it to. “I got this weird message from Krup. He didn’t want me to lynch him on Day 1 or 2. I think he may be a neutral with a strange win condition that he needs to survive until Day 3. He also said he’d be my mouthpiece if I have a plan. It sounds like he’s probing for a PR.” Anyway, we chatted and he told me about his suspicions regard Krup, Flab, and Dill. He thought Flab and Dill were scummy. He asked me if I was the cop, roleblocker, or just vanilla. I’m not sure how he got this idea. Panck: Both things are odd. Since obviously the “he” you mentioned in the second bit can’t be Krup, who is it? P1: Wong. Panck: Do you mind making mention of some of this in thread? P1: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Panck: Perhaps I’ll do some investigation on my own then. Curtains Close. Act 2, Scene 2, Day 2: Wong: I’m so scummy. Panck: Yo, pal! It seems like you’ve been fishing for power roles. Know what I mean? Wong: Is that so? Panck: Uh huh. Do you know who I am talking about or have you been fishing from more than one person’s pool? Wong: I’m just a one-shot gladiator. Panck: Hey, answer the question, scummy. Somebody said you asked them to claim. Do you know who I’m talking about or have you asked so many people Wong: Oh dear, I’ve asked too many people. I’ve only talked to you, P1, P2, and Catalina Interlude: Catalina (speaking from beyond): Hey! Why is my name visible and not P1 and P2s? Writer: Because you’re dead silly! Catalina (speaking from beyond): I still think it’s unfair. Back to the play: Panck: So who of those did you ask to role claim to you? Wong: All of them. They all claimed vanilla. Panck: *leaves room* Act 2, Scene 3, Day 2: P2: *touches himself* Panck: Hey, matey. I hear Wong was trying to get you to claim by PM. Is that true? P2: Nah! Why do you ask? Panck: He was fishing for others’ roles and when I poked him he said you claimed vanilla to him. P2: He’s dumb and/or lying. I didn’t claim to him anything. Act 3, Scene 1, Day 2: Wong: I hope that mean dragon doesn’t come back… Panck: Hello! Wong: Uh, oh! Panck: Why were you fishing? That’s scummy. Wong: I want to find out who is what and who to trust. Panck: That is a totally scummy thing to do. Wong: Well, I’m trying to work through them to find out what others are claiming. Panck: Wow! You really are scum! Act 3, Scene 2, Day 2: Catalina: Purr, purr! Panck: You’ve been speaking with Wong, I hear. Did she ask you to claim? Catalina: Nope. Who told you this? I spoke with Wong, but I was the one asking him questions. Panck: He told me so himself. Care to tell me what passed between you? Catalina: Sure thing. I asked him who he was suspicious of and he said Lulu and Dill. Krup, he said, is probably a town newbie. He said he thinks P2 and I are trustworthy. He never asked me to claim. I just sent him a text now in fact and he said something about “thinking like scum to beat them.” It makes no sense to me. He said he wants people to open up to him. Panck: He said you claimed vanilla. First he was saying he wanted people to claim so he could find out who to trust. Now he said he wants to work through you to find out what others are claiming. Catalina: Really? Panck: Yep. Interestingly enough, he said P2 claimed to him, when P2 didn’t. He also said P1 did. P1 actually did though, from what he told me. Catalina: *profanity* What is Wong up to? Panck: *shrugs* Catalina: I texted him asking who he spoke to apart from me and P2 Panck: … Catalina: He read my text, but won’t respond. Panck: Scary! Catalina: Now he did. Said he talked to one other person, Krup. He didn’t mention P1 at all. He’s totally scum. Mind if I let people know? Panck: Sure. I’m sleepy. …zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ladies and gentlemen that was the story the transpired yesterday. At night I sent most of the details to two fellows in case I wouldn’t survive the night for some odd reason. I was like 95% certain the Wong would flip scum after that fiasco, and who wouldn’t have been? I found it odd that Catalina was killed this morning by whom I thought was the scum killer and that seemed more than coincidental, but now looking back it seems like it was the rabbit, Regelius, that was killed in the same manner as Catalina, therefore making it more likely an SK. Still why go for Catalina? There were quieter folk around. Also why would Wong lie about getting people to claim? Some kind of sting thing? Could anyone else be lying? Most of those I was suspicious were of have been killed, but there are still some folks around for example Timly and Godric who have both blipped my scumdar a fair bit.
Twatty Tittlesteen Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 What???! If Wong had come up town, I would have said to look further into Catalina, but she's dead now, too, and everyone that died was a Penis. Helena, was your remark towards me something that pinged you? Because that is just how it seemed to me. You seemed very insistent on it, and it was to the point where you said "If Wong is scum, lynch me". I at least have a good feeling about you being a Penis. I definitely think Godric should be our focus ,but we should also look into Firuz, and I think we should also be looking for changed behaviors, as the rules seem to imply that conversions are existent here.
Godric Goaty-Blather Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 I'm genuinely surprised that Wong turned out to be town. I expected him to be scum or at least a neutral party. I'm willing to answer any questions you would like to field towards me to explain my innocence.
Gertrude Tincanchew Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Well, can't say I'm at all surprised. Rutherford, you ask why the idiots aren't ever stuck on the scum team. It's because they are a TEAM, and so stop each other from flailing. Wild flailing like Krup and Wong... those were clear panics of people all alone. I'm sorry to see them go, but am happy that people may finally begin to focus on some more Odor-esque posters. Funnily enough, for once in... life... we can see exactly how much people have contributed. Just look to the left... and you'll see some sort of tally of how much we've spoken... must be some magical thingy.... Anyway, those who pinged me yesterday continue to ping. Rutherford, for example, offers up the startling statement that he doesn't feel motivated to go look at the only thing we have to go off of: voting patterns. Godric has lost two of his accusers from yesterday, and ended yesterday by saying that he was convinced that Wong was Odor (though earlier he said he seemed Penis), and ended the day by saying that he no longer believed Wong could use his action twice, the thing he cited as proof that Wong was scum. Dillpickle has been throwing around all these phrases, but his actions have been reserved and under the radar while still lots of actions going on, and he joined the bandwagon late yesterday, a good place for scum to be (a "part of the majority" but not "a leading lyncher of town"). Gertrude too remains extremely defensive and led the crusade on Wong and Krup, and will now defend herself by claiming she's just a leading townie who made a mistake. What are the thoughts of the day, folks? I'll be over here trimming the hedges into the shapes of our dearly departed. Tell me when you have actual opinions and not just lame reactions of sadness. Actually, I'm not going to defend myself by claiming I made a mistake, considering I didn't. Unless leading lunches on the two scummiest guys around counts as a mistake in your head. First let's get the formalities out of the way; how not surprising! I told you so ... I guess! Now are people willing to scrutinize the people who led the lynch on Wong and had Krup killed? I'd prefer to scrutinize people like you, who didn't vote for the obvious scum/dumb, then proceed to tell us "I told you so! He was Town! You should trust me!" The next day. The only way you would have known for sure he was Town before the lynch was if you were scum, since there is no way you could have passed off all their megablocks as Towntells.
Looney Lumpylove Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Morning all. Not a good night for OotP. Not at all. Barkonius wants opinions, so I'll give opinions. Yesterday Gertrude practically begged the vig to kill Krup. Did she know he was Penis? I wonder which Penis she'll want taken out tonight? She's at the top of my scum-list right now. As noted, Firuz was very quiet, until a vote was placed on him (by Twatty, as I recall), when suddenly he had plenty to say. I'm on the fence as to whether he's scum who was laying low but forced into the light, or a townie that woke up and realized he needed to help this town. Ariattny I have squarely on the Penis side right now. But I was wrong about Snarky, and wrong about Wong, so my instincts aren't exactly the best. Barkonius is also clearly on the Penis side of the fence in my mind. Those are just my initial thougths after looking through the transcript of yesterday's ongoings. I'm going to give it a more thorough read and come back with anything else I can glean.
Timly Dimplebop Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Well, Wong flipping town is an interesting development. I was certain he was OE or 3rd party. Panck's 'ode' supports that even more, so I don't know what to think on that front? Gertrude was relentless in her pursuit of Krup (starting day 1). I'm still curious as to why? Panck, you say I've 'blipped' your scum radar, why is that? If it's based purely on post count/contribution, I can understand and respect it. I'll not make excuses for my lack of contribution these last few days, but I can ensure you my schedule has cleared a bit and I will do what I can with 100% from here on out. If there is anything you would like to know from me, please feel free to ask. That goes for anyone here. I've nothing to hide, so ask away.
Dillpickle Catterweed Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Drubulum, didst thou have thy lovely play prewritten for the morn shouldst Wong flip town? Catalina's accusation of Wong yesterday was quite clear. Therefore, it doth strike me as an excessive explanation for thine steely eyed focus on Wong these two days past. Indeed, this moreso given the circumstance with which Wong's lynch was secured via strong majority. I hadst thou pegged as town, yet this play doth give me pause to reconsider. Here are additional suspicions of which I hath seen less discussion: Langston Lionheart (or Ariattny Surgarbottom) - I am convinced that they are not both scum, yet it wouldst not surprise me to discover if one of them was. Given that, I wouldst lean towards Langston, as Ariattny has struck me as far more likely OotP to this point. Langston hath contributed, tis true, yet there is something in his discourse that doth unsettle me. He hath spoken fervently of his perspective on how scum wouldst react in the situations we have seen, to the point that it doth seem almost as if he is already thinking from their perspective. Belinda Bugglesby - Belinda hath struck me as trying to find the right balance of following another's lead. She didst cast the second vote for Wong prior to the Provocarus Curse on day 1. She didst vote agin for Wong after said curse, and after Wong claimed responsibility. She then meekly switch to Snarky after "learning" of the Gladiator role. This wouldst seem ok, but on day 2 she then said that "anyone with mastery of Magic can do a simple search" for while casting the 3rd vote for Wong. Later on day 2, she didst change her vote to Godric for Godric's nonsensical voting justification. While this doth not ping in and of itself, twas agin the 3rd vote, and came with no explanation regarding if she felt Wong was not scummy. And lest the confession of Orion Kettlboil go to waste, he didst say prior that he didst counsel Wong to use his Provocarus Curse. Now that Wong hath proven town, it wouldst be good to revisit this counsel, as that would most certainly have been the counsel an Odor Eater wouldst have given. Moreso understanding that the other primary candidates, Krup and Snarky, were both also town. What better way to remove the Gladiator role from future menace to their cause? Well, Wong flipping town is an interesting development. I was certain he was OE or 3rd party. Panck's 'ode' supports that even more, so I don't know what to think on that front? What doth thou not understand? First, to think Wong was 3rd party is idiotic. It was extraordinarily clear that he was a Gladiator, which is nonsensical as 3rd party. Wong's alignment hath now been revealed upon his death. To reiterate, what doth thou not understand?
Barkonius Twitch Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Actually, I'm not going to defend myself by claiming I made a mistake, considering I didn't. Unless leading lunches on the two scummiest guys around counts as a mistake in your head. :laugh: Yes, I may be alone on this, but lynching two Penises does count as a mistake in my head. And now here you are again, leading another charge for no reason early in the day. Ms. Pink (hello Ms. Pink, I'm sure you're only using those formalities to get me into bed ) said she'd like to scrutinize the people who led the lynch, and you said by NOT voting for the two Penises she was clearly an Odor Eater, and was further more exclaiming that we should trust her, when she did no such thing. You are willfully sowing discord... again. Godric at least had the good graces to admit he made a mistake and open himself up for scrutiny, you refuse it and attempt to throw suspicion on those who want to look at your motives. Langston Lionheart (or Ariattny Surgarbottom) - I am convinced that they are not both scum, yet it wouldst not surprise me to discover if one of them was. Given that, I wouldst lean towards Langston, as Ariattny has struck me as far more likely OotP to this point. Langston hath contributed, tis true, yet there is something in his discourse that doth unsettle me. He hath spoken fervently of his perspective on how scum wouldst react in the situations we have seen, to the point that it doth seem almost as if he is already thinking from their perspective. Langston Lion has also strangely been pinging me. I did not mention him earlier because there isn't really anything specific he's been saying... just... I felt that he was strange, middle of the pack, etc. I'll go water my hedges. Lumpylove, if you want to come visit me behind the fence out of the eyes of the public, you know where to find me.
Bartholomew Bearbutt Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Im surprised that some people seem to be either shocked (like Gertrude) or not surprised at all (like Purplonia or Helena) that Wong turned out to be a penis. Those are the animals that seemed to know he was a penis and either wanted him out of the way badly yesterday or were preparing to say "I told you so" today. Wow. I am honestly shocked that they both were Penises. What were they smoking when they were posting to make them think they were doing anything remotely intelligent? Time to take a jaunt through the previous day threads, I guess. What made you so convinced they both were odor eaters? You went after them relentlesly on both days and didn't seem to consider or want us to consider they were penises for a moment. We were all screaming for the vig to take out Durm during the night, so it seems likely that that is indeed what happened, doesn't it? If that is so, then the vig would be the Torpeo killer, wouldn't they? Which of course leads to my next question: where was the vig on Night One? Were they blocked? Did they not kill? Not everyone was screaming for the vigilant to kill Krup. Its likely the vig decided to not use his night action on night 1. Its really weird though that he didnt want to kill Krup on night 1 but killed him on night 2 anyway though. Catalina spoke a lot yesterday, so maybe someone was scared of her. Based on what Catalina said yesterday the only one I can think of is Godric. Its most likely the toaster killer is the SK though, so would that make him the SK? Althiugh it might be a setup. Some like godric or Timly are being very scummy to me. They don't seem to be following along and dont contribute anything to the discussion. Its almost like they don't care who gets lynched Ladies and gentlemen that was the story the transpired yesterday. Like Dillpickle already said it sounds like your trying to overjustify your vote for Wong. Showing us this doesnt tell us anything other than why you thought he was scummy, so why tell us all that specifically today? I'm genuinely surprised that Wong turned out to be town. I expected him to be scum or at least a neutral party. I'm willing to answer any questions you would like to field towards me to explain my innocence. A neutral gladiator makes no sense at all. You can't "explain" your innocence, you prove it and you prove it by contributing and by having opinions on things not by just answering qurstions. Ariattny I have squarely on the Penis side right now. But I was wrong about Snarky, and wrong about Wong, so my instincts aren't exactly the best. Barkonius is also clearly on the Penis side of the fence in my mind. What makes you so convinced their penises? You seem really sure about that. Panck, you say I've 'blipped' your scum radar, why is that? If it's based purely on post count/contribution, I can understand and respect it. I'll not make excuses for my lack of contribution these last few days, but I can ensure you my schedule has cleared a bit and I will do what I can with 100% from here on out. If there is anything you would like to know from me, please feel free to ask. That goes for anyone here. I've nothing to hide, so ask away. Godric said the same thing. Good penises contribute and don't just ask to be scrutinized. What we want to know from you is your opinions. Love lifts us up where we belooooooooong, where the eeeeeeeaaaaaagles fly, on a mooooouuuuntain hiiiiigh! Love lifts us up where we belooooooong, far from the wooooorld we know, where the cleeeeaaaar winds blow!
Lulu Pittoolo Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Skraw! Skraw! Damn it, I thought Wong was scum I can't imagine Krup be targeted by either scum or third party, so I figure his death was the work of a vigilante. We've seen the spell which killed Boris used on Flabflom before, probably a scum kill; that would make the toaster the work of an SK, I guess. Catalina has been pinging me yesterday, and there have been quieter people, which makes me wonder if the SK is trying to work with the town...I still would lynch them given the chance nevertheless. Well, with Wong dead and townie (albeit not a very useful one anyway), we have to look into new people. Currently I'm inclined to follow Helena on Godric, especially because of this. It's just ridiculous. He entirely disregards the facts that a multiple-shot gladiator is broken or that we could just vote a scum member off if they abuse the action regularly. He seems rather sure the scum can recruit, too, even though there was a scum kill every night so far and there was no hint of a conversion He also appears to be sure the scum have a protector, which isn't too common (not too rare either, but still) . There were better reasons to vote for Wong, but he didn't even mention them. Another fact is that he mentioned Wong possibly being neutral multiple times. Almost like he knew Wong wasn't going to flip scum. And was discussing with his scum buddies that he might be neutral He also calls Orion out for "defending Wong", even though he just pointed out obvious flaws in Godric's lynch rationalization. There's also the fact he was quick to go from "I think Wong is town" to "I think he is either scum or neutral", but we talked about this before. Another person on my suspect list is Twatty Tweedlesteen, he also changed his opinion on Wong rather quick, but at least he gave a reason. What I find odd, though, is how he repeadedly accused Helena of trying to get people to lynch Godric for her own benefit (looking back, it's hard to see what Helena would have gained; if she is town and Godric is too, how does that help her? If she is scum, it's just unecessary attention, even more so now that we know Wong was town). At the same time he sounded like he half-assedly agreed with her, but argued that it's too late to try. Weird. Skraw!
Looney Lumpylove Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 What makes you so convinced their penises? You seem really sure about that. I'm not certain of it at all. They are who I trust most at this point. Unless some other evidence comes my way, I will continue to trust them. 'Nuthin more than that.
Purplonia Pink Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Actually, I'm not going to defend myself by claiming I made a mistake, considering I didn't. Unless leading lunches on the two scummiest guys around counts as a mistake in your head. I'd prefer to scrutinize people like you, who didn't vote for the obvious scum/dumb, then proceed to tell us "I told you so! He was Town! You should trust me!" The next day. The only way you would have known for sure he was Town before the lynch was if you were scum, since there is no way you could have passed off all their megablocks as Towntells. To justify my vote, consider this: Wong was way too vocal and attracted way to much attention on thread (and in private actually) for me to think of him as scum; I cannot imagine that he would not have been "brought back" by his fellow scums or that an attempt at diverting the lynch could not have been done to try and save his megablocks; none of that happened. I was once a confused townie and his behaviour reminded me A LOT of what I once did when scrutinized. Furthermore, the curse he used could not have had, IMO, been attributed to a scum; why would a scum want to put his head on the line by using such a curse? As scum, would you have used the curse and volunteered for the lynch ...it makes no sense! You are trying to tell us that your pursuit of lynches on both Krup and Wong, which were both town, should be overlooked? The argument you are making against me can be used against you; the reason you were so adament on lynching Krup and Wong is that you knew they were town and you used their confusion and "dumbness" to your advantage to mount a bandwagon.
Firuz Foxtail Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Now are people willing to scrutinize the people who led the lynch on Wong and had Krup killed? A good place to start might be to offer up your own views instead of asking everyone else to put forward theirs first. An ode to Wong (alternatively, the odd that's Wong):. ... Ladies and gentlemen that was the story the transpired yesterday. At night I sent most of the details to two fellows in case I wouldn’t survive the night for some odd reason. I was like 95% certain the Wong would flip scum after that fiasco, and who wouldn’t have been? I found it odd that Catalina was killed this morning by whom I thought was the scum killer and that seemed more than coincidental, but now looking back it seems like it was the rabbit, Regelius, that was killed in the same manner as Catalina, therefore making it more likely an SK. Still why go for Catalina? There were quieter folk around. Also why would Wong lie about getting people to claim? Some kind of sting thing? Could anyone else be lying? Most of those I was suspicious were of have been killed, but there are still some folks around for example Timly and Godric who have both blipped my scumdar a fair bit. It seems strange to me that you feel the need to spell this out in such detail and it feels like you had it prepared, like you knew you would need it. However, I agree with the rest the rest of your post (the part I didn't snip), which makes me lean towards you being town. Belinda was missing for much of the day yesterday, with only two posts. The first one didn't come until voting was open and then she voted for Wong. She subsequent came back to oblige Helena and change her vote to Godric. Someone asked where she was yesterday, but she never responded. I would definitely like to hear more from Belinda. She is well and truly trying to fly under the radar. Timly also needs to contribute more. He hasn't flown under the radar as much as Belinda, but there haven't been a lot of helpful contributions from him. Orion also did not make a lot of posts yesterday, but what he said and how he said it makes me inclined to believe he is a penis. As noted, Firuz was very quiet, until a vote was placed on him (by Twatty, as I recall), when suddenly he had plenty to say. I'm on the fence as to whether he's scum who was laying low but forced into the light, or a townie that woke up and realized he needed to help this town. I am not scum and I am not trying to lay low. Catalina sowed plenty of seeds of doubt about me yesterday, mentioning my name in all but a couple of posts. I don't know why she was pursuing me, but the main accusations against me were that I only responded when asked a question. I responded to her about that, but it did not seem good enough for her. I posted about my suspicions about Wong, Godric and Durmudgelous. I was wrong on at least two of those three. I want to find the scum as much as the next person, but I am going to be more cautious with my analysis today because I don't want to see anymore penises lynched. I'm genuinely surprised that Wong turned out to be town. I expected him to be scum or at least a neutral party. I'm willing to answer any questions you would like to field towards me to explain my innocence. I don't understand why you would still think that Wong could have been neutral. It doesn't make any sense at all for a nuetral to be given a gladiator action. You did change your behaviour a little towards the end of yesterday, but you are still on my radar.
Godric Goaty-Blather Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 They don't seem to be following along and dont contribute anything to the discussion. Its talmost like they don't care who gets lynched A neutral gladiator makes no sense at all. You can't "explain" your innocence, you prove it and you prove it by contributing and by having opinions on things not by just answering qurstions. Thanks for bringing up some points. I'll be happy to answer them. I'd like to think I'm following along. I do know about the lynches and the reasons for them and occasionally, while I agree with others for their reasons on voting for a person, I feel like adding my own reason in addition. I agreed with everything that people said about Wong, so I didn't feel it needed repeating and I wanted to get my own opinion in. At the time the idea of a neutral gladiator made sense in my head. Well, with Wong dead and townie (albeit not a very useful one anyway), we have to look into new people. Currently I'm inclined to follow Helena on Godric, especially because of this. It's just ridiculous. He entirely disregards the facts that a multiple-shot gladiator is broken or that we could just vote a scum member off if they abuse the action regularly. He seems rather sure the scum can recruit, too, even though there was a scum kill every night so far and there was no hint of a conversion He also appears to be sure the scum have a protector, which isn't too common (not too rare either, but still) . There were better reasons to vote for Wong, but he didn't even mention them. Another fact is that he mentioned Wong possibly being neutral multiple times. Almost like he knew Wong wasn't going to flip scum. And was discussing with his scum buddies that he might be neutral He also calls Orion out for "defending Wong", even though he just pointed out obvious flaws in Godric's lynch rationalization. There's also the fact he was quick to go from "I think Wong is town" to "I think he is either scum or neutral", but we talked about this before. As stated, I felt at the time that that was a good reason in addition to the other reasons that people were voting for Wong. There's no reason to repeat the same thing repeatedly each time someone votes for someone if they agree with what's been said. And yes, I'm sure the scum have a protector. Historically in every mafia game ever the scum have had some form of a protector. I'm pretty sure they can recruit as well, however this I'm not sure of. Continuing, you said that I was speaking with my "scum buddies" thinking he was neutral. I didn't know if he was neutral or scum, but at the time I viewed him as bad news. I stated this yesterday. I don't understand why you would still think that Wong could have been neutral. It doesn't make any sense at all for a nuetral to be given a gladiator action. You did change your behaviour a little towards the end of yesterday, but you are still on my radar. Again, you can see the above explanation, but I thought it would make some sense if a neutral was given an ability to mess with the vote. In hindsight, I can pick out flaws in my arguments. If we has neutral he wouldn't have revealed that it was him who cast the spell. It made sense to me at the time in my goaty head which is why I stuck with it. As I said, that wasn't my only reason for voting for Wong. I, of course, agreed with the others. I'll be happy to field more questions. If you'll allow me to gather my thoughts I'll list who I find to be on my list of Oder Eaters and why.
Belinda Bugglesby Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Well it's pretty bad that another 3 Penis's are dead. I hope we do better today, I am still suspicious of Langston and Godric. The former has been more active than me, for sure, but there's something off about him. And yes, I did unvote Wang yesterday because at that point I felt he was just a confused townie; and I felt it better to go after someone I thought was suspicious, whilst following other Magi I believe are town. I have no qualms about being a follower, but that doesn't mean I'm an Odor Eater.
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