Opinions on stuff we need, and stuff that is destroying LEGO

[Alcarin]

Funny thread :D

[LEGO Historian]

I think that TLG's decision to introduce Minifigs back in 1978 was a big mistake... and that no good would come of the elimination of the Classic LEGO windows in 1986.

But fortunately I and the other 3 AFOLs that thought this way, were in the minority... and LEGO sales into the billions proved us wrong!!

[1974]

Time to bring up "Dear LEGO" again .. (credited Richie Dulin) :

1949

Dear Lego

Bricks! You’ve gone and totally changed your product focus, and rendered my collection of wooden and plastic non-brick toys obsolete. The LEGO Company has alienated its most vocal evangelists...I have friends who are very angry about it and, I feel their pain. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1955

Dear Lego

Trees? One piece trees? I’ve been making perfectly satisfactory trees for years from basic bricks, and now you go and render my collection of tree building bricks obsolete. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1958

Dear Lego

Now you’ve done it! Your consumer research into these new brick designs, with the stud and tube, might have found that consumers prefer these sort of bricks, but you didn’t ask me, or any of the vast number of Lego fans who are perfectly happy with the existing bricks. Last time, it was just my tree building bricks, but now it is my entire collection of perfectly functioning Lego bricks that you’ve rendered obsolete. I’ve come out in a cold sweat worrying about this. Woe is me. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1961

Dear Lego

Are traditional Lego fans no longer enough for you? What’s wrong with the houses we’ve been building for years? You’ve now rendered our windows, doors, and even trees redundant by introducing the wheel. The wheel defeats the purpose of Lego itself. Mark my words, this is a really bad move. the company won’t last ‘till 1965, let alone the end of the decade!! I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1962

Dear Lego

The plate! You go and introduce the plate! Are kids today so unskilled that they can’t build with bricks? You make it too easy for them. The introduction of the 1/3 brick (“plate”) marks an historic decline in the worth of the Lego system. I am shaking with rage. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1963

Dear Lego

I am distraught! Nothing I have bought from your company in the past now has any worth at all. CA was good enough for thousands of fans, but you go and replace it with ABS. Why? Was it on the basis of some market research that “decided” that CA wasn’t good enough, and that a handful of consumers (who are probably only kids, or their parents) would prefer the so-called “superior” properties of ABS. I haven’t slept for days, worrying about this. I regularly open my window and shout obscenities in the general direction of Denmark. You should immediately revert to CA on all sets. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1969

Dear Lego

This is too much. It took me years to get over the ABS vs CA thing, but now you’ve made me take the LEGO bricks from my sister’s 3 year old. I gave them to him last birthday, but now I find that they’re obsolete for that age group because you’ve thoughtlessly introduced this Duplo stuff. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1970

Dear Lego

Why small wheels? What’s wrong with the ones we’ve been using happily for years, but which you’ve now rendered obsolete? It’s just getting too stupid. My health is suffering again, and my doctor has been forced to prescribe a mild sedative. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1973

Dear Lego

Right. I’ve almost had enough of this. Over the last several years, I’ve built several ships out of bricks (including those I had to take from my sister’s then 3 year old when you introduced Duplo). I have been entirely satisfied with those ships. But now, I find that Lego, probably because of some ill-qualified marketing buffoon, is introducing ship’s hull pieces. All my hull bricks are now obsolete. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1974

Dear Lego

Arrrggghhhh! I never thought you’d change the scale, but you introduced the Lego family. All my doors, windows, trees and most of my wheels are obsolete in one fell swoop. A serious company doesn’t treat its consumers this way. Shame on you. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1975

Dear Lego

Just when I’d got back from taking all my doors, windows, trees and most of my wheels to the rubbish dump, I find that you’ve changed the scale again - this time with the introduction of a new, small fig. These figs are terrible - they can’t move their arms (like the Lego family can) , and they don’t even have faces! This destroys backward compatibility. I’ve developed a nervous tic. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1977

Dear Lego

Technic! Technic? What was wrong with my old gear-wheel sets. You’ve rendered all my old cogs, axles and 4x2 bricks with seven holes completely useless. I’m tearing my hair out! What next? I feel betrayed... and now i see my 300,000 brick collection jeopardized by this unexpected insanity.I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1978

Dear Lego

When will you get the message? Yet more new figures! What was wrong with the old ones. Who needs moveable arms or smiley faces - the old ones were completely adequate. Most of the people don’t even fit into their cars. This is a terrible move for Lego, and one which will mark its decline as a successful toy company. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1979

Dear Lego

Not only have you rendered my prized Moon Landing set obsolete, but you’ve introduced specialised parts too. I’m disgusted with this new space line - it’s just a fad, it won’t last until 1980, let alone the space age in 2000. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1980

Dear Lego

Grey Track? Lego train track is blue. Or at least was, until you rendered it obsolete with this stupid marketing led move. What next, a change to some bizarre voltage system (9V?). I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1984

Dear Lego

You’ve really done badly with this. Why a grey castle? Lego castles have been yellow for years - why do you need to go and use a colour which has only been widely available for a couple of years. You’ve rendered my 375 Castle totally obsolete - I may as well just toss it out now. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1991

Dear Lego

Look, my letter of 1980 was a complaint, not a request! Why new train track? Why 9V? (Why? Why? Why?) Everyone knows that battering trains are 4.5V, and that transformer-controller trains are 12V. Why change to some bizarre system? All my train stuff (except that which I threw away following its obsolesence in 1980) is now obsolete. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1992

Dear Lego

You must think kids today are a singularly untalented lot. I’ve been happily seperating bricks with my fingers (and sometimes my teeth), for years, but some marketing whiz-kid at Lego reckons he’s come up with something better! Really, a “brick seperator”. Who needs it? You must really look down on your consumers. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1996

Dear Lego

Well there goes my much loved Texas Rangers set (although the Texas Rangers themselves went in 1978, and their brick built horses in 1984). Western indeed! What next, replacement non-red native americans for my 215 Red Indians (which I seem to have neglected throwing away when it became mostly obsolete)?. The man at the rubbish tip is now on first name terms with me, and smiles as he sees me approach. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1998

Dear Lego

Why do we need a Robotics Invention System with a hyped up marketing name like “Mindstorms”? What’s wrong with my Technic Control Centre? Well I guess it’s obsolete now. Off to the tip I go again. The man at the tip recognises me at a distance (because of my general shakiness, bald head, strange skin condition, nervous tic, and broken teeth) I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

1999

Dear Lego

You commercial sellouts! Now I find all my Space Lego is obsolete, and I have to replace it all with marketing driving Star Wars stuff. I’m literally crying here, guys - have you no respect for us long-suffering fans. I despair at what will happen next - will you replace my beloved castle line with second rate sets based on a book about the adventures of some kid wizard! I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

2003

to be continued

Also, another world class rant by Xenobuzz :

http://www.davidglennsimmons.com/archive/MyLegoCreations/The%20Reinvention%20of%20Lego.htm

[SteampunkDoc]

Bahahaha!

Thanks '1974', that post is great!

Can't wait to see what happens when the rants get to brown Lando, or *Gasp* Fleshies.

I've been coming here for laughs, and that post was the best one yet.

But I'd love to see somebody try to top it.

[Pop Bumper Pete]

1979

Dear Lego

Not only have you rendered my prized Moon Landing set obsolete, but you’ve introduced specialised parts too. I’m disgusted with this new space line - it’s just a fad, it won’t last until 1980, let alone the space age in 2000. I don’t know what to do, but I’ll certainly be buying less of your product in future.

I am with you there brother

I love my large primary colored cogs

THEY never broke like those small, lame, grey cogs

BRING BACK THE BIG COG!!!!

[robuko]

Maybe this thread was introduced to intentionally make us stop reading threads.... Wait... Uh. Never mind.

That is really funny!

[Cardinal]

Eurobricks at it again. They lock my awards thread and then censor and alter my thread title for this thread. They added the word "opinions" to the title thread. I did not add the word "opinions" nor did I give anyone permission to do so. Having my thread locked is offensive and biggoted enough, but to censor and ALTER my speech is nothing short of morally criminal, a misrepresentation of my words, totally inexcusable and wrong.

I will not voluntarily subject myself to this tyranny. My posts always gain huge views and replies because I have something to say and my posts strike a chord with people and carry weight. My posts are exciting and fun, and they stand out in this forum.

I will now once again depart the Eurobricks community indefinitely. For those who support me, please voice your views to the owners of this website. Frankly, the moderators are once again abusing the community.

Thank you,

Cardinal

[Spitfire2865]

Im sorry, but your posts are annoying and misguided. We just responded to prove all your points wrong.

The moderators are NOT abusing the community, they are doing their duty to Eurobricks to better run it, and to deal with people like you who think they have the right to spread false rumors. By joining this site, you agreed to accept the moderators judgement and obviously they judged that it would be best to change and lock your topics as your topics usually have no actual use to the community.

And honestly, I dont think youre quitting. You "quit" before, you will be back again. See you soon!

And sorry to any mods who think Im trying to do a mods jobs, I just really had to say this.

[obsidianheart]

First round was in mid-December... This round started last of April/First of May... I guess we'll reconvene in the middle of October?

[Faefrost]

We've never been abused by our Mods. They are nice kind thoughtful people who work hard to keep this forum reasonably free of some of the more sociopathic and narcissistic dwellers of he Internet here who might seek to stir us up with pointless arguments and of fences meant only to enrage. We do know this dance of the mangy interweb troll around here, and our kind mods are well practiced at dragging them out back and adding the remains to the French and British meat quality problems.

[Fugazi]

Right, I see that the discussion has veered way off topic. Please either discuss the original topic or refrain from posting here.

offensive and biggoted enough, morally criminal, totally inexcusable and wrong.

Posting on Eurobricks is not a right, but a privilege that can be moderated or even revoked if anyone's content doesn't follow the EB guidelines. If you have any issues with this, we can discuss them privately.

[jonwil]

Personally I think Galaxy Squad is good, if I was building Space (and not City/Town/present day), I would probably buy some. Is it as good as Alien Conquest? No. Is it the worst Space theme LEGO has ever done? No, LEGO have done worse (including Insectoids).

As for Castle, it was designed specifically to appeal to younger builders who are too young for Lord of the Rings and in that role I think it does well. Its simpler than previous Castle lines (e.g. Kingdoms) but that's fine with me. (if I built Castle, I would probably want to buy a few for some of the parts :)

I do agree LEGO needs to put less into one-hit-wonder licenses like Toy Story and Cars (and like this years Planes license). Starwars is great for LEGO and with the announcement of new films and other new Starwars content, there will be plenty of fresh material for the sets going forward. Superheroes is also a good idea, its clear that Marvel and Warner aren't going to stop making film and TV content featuring their classic Superheroes anytime soon (in addition to Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel, we have a whole list of superhero films going forward including Thor 2, Captain America 2 and the Ant-Man film plus Avengers 2 and others not to mention TV content to draw from. And who knows what DC and Warner are doing next after Man of Steel)

All 3 universes (Starwars, DC and Marvel) are going to have plenty of content going forward to sustain the product lines and I dont see any of the 3 being less popular with the target audiences for the various LEGO products than they are right now.

Personally I think Galaxy Squad is good, if I was building Space (and not City/Town/present day), I would probably buy some. Is it as good as Alien Conquest? No. Is it the worst Space theme LEGO has ever done? No, LEGO have done worse (including Insectoids).

As for Castle, it was designed specifically to appeal to younger builders who are too young for Lord of the Rings and in that role I think it does well. Its simpler than previous Castle lines (e.g. Kingdoms) but that's fine with me. (if I built Castle, I would probably want to buy a few for some of the parts :)

I do agree LEGO needs to put less into one-hit-wonder licenses like Toy Story and Cars (and like this years Planes license). Starwars is great for LEGO and with the announcement of new films and other new Starwars content, there will be plenty of fresh material for the sets going forward. Superheroes is also a good idea, its clear that Marvel and Warner aren't going to stop making film and TV content featuring their classic Superheroes anytime soon (in addition to Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel, we have a whole list of superhero films going forward including Thor 2, Captain America 2 and the Ant-Man film plus Avengers 2 and others not to mention TV content to draw from. And who knows what DC and Warner are doing next after Man of Steel)

All 3 universes (Starwars, DC and Marvel) are going to have plenty of content going forward to sustain the product lines and I dont see any of the 3 being less popular with the target audiences for the various LEGO products than they are right now.

[Locomotive Annie]

I only discovered Lego in middle age and never played with it as a child (The closest thing was a small Betta Builder set that was given to me when I was 12), - so I'm still very much learning about the wide variety of themes available under the Lego brand. However the impression I'm getting is that there are themes enough for at least one of them to appeal to anyone who wants to build things with plastic bricks. Speaking for myself many of the licensed themes don't float my boat at all, but I happen to like City and Trains and just recently I discovered Friends and I absolutely love this new theme. However the last thing I would do is get up and start knocking other themes that I'm not interested in.

Here in New Zealand the range of Lego sets that can be readily purchased is pretty darn poor and they are generally quite expensive as compared with prices in other parts of the world. I live in a rural town well away from the main centres so it is a little annoying when on a rare trip into the city I find myself near a Lego stockist and they just plain don't have anything I want on the shelves despite the money smouldering away in my pocket. But however annoying that might be I'm not about to say things like, 'If Lego didn't make Star Wars/Toy Story/Chima/Ninjaro/& etc then there would be room for more City and Trains on the shelves and I wouldn't be walking out of the shop disappointed.

Something I would like to see though is more starter type brick sets as well as plain brick assortments on the shelves. We don't have PAB here and Bricklink is expensive because postage to New Zealand from just about everywhere is never cheap. Most NZ stockists will have the starter sets and brick packs listed in their on-line stores, only they are always out of stock and it takes forever for them to restock.

[Aanchir]

Eurobricks at it again. They lock my awards thread and then censor and alter my thread title for this thread. They added the word "opinions" to the title thread. I did not add the word "opinions" nor did I give anyone permission to do so. Having my thread locked is offensive and biggoted enough, but to censor and ALTER my speech is nothing short of morally criminal, a misrepresentation of my words, totally inexcusable and wrong.

I will not voluntarily subject myself to this tyranny. My posts always gain huge views and replies because I have something to say and my posts strike a chord with people and carry weight. My posts are exciting and fun, and they stand out in this forum.

I will now once again depart the Eurobricks community indefinitely. For those who support me, please voice your views to the owners of this website. Frankly, the moderators are once again abusing the community.

Thank you,

Cardinal

They locked your awards thread because it was spam. They altered the title of this thread so that people browsing the forums had a better idea what it was about (they do this frequently for topics with confusing titles). It's not censorship; it's just the moderators doing their job. You really need to get over your persecution complex and accept that nobody's got it out for you-- the moderators are treating you just like how they'd treat any other member of the community, and working to promote a healthy community with constructive discussion.

Everyone has opinions, and everyone is welcome to share them. Not everyone's opinions deserve topics of their own when there are other topics better-suited to that kind of discussion. Your "awards" thread was nothing more than spam, but this topic was a jumping-point for a lively discussion-- it just needed a title change so people understood what it was actually about.

If you're fed up with having to deal with any kind of authority, then don't join any sites that have moderators on them whatsoever. Because the point of having moderators is having someone who can exercise authority. But you're not getting any sympathy by "leaving indefinitely" then changing your mind and coming back and expecting to be somehow exempt from the rules, traditions, and authority of the site. You just end up looking selfish and fickle.