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I know this subject has been debated before and I even found an online petition of a 10179 rerelease garnering hardly any support.

How well did the 10179 sell? Is there a chance of either a rerelease of a new UCS Falcon when SW VII is released (especially if it features a Millennium Falcon)? It is a good way to stop the rediculous prices for new or even used sets. I know sellers/collectors/traders won't be haply with a rerelease.

And if a new Falcon UCS arrives: what flaws does 10179 have that need improvement?

I have held the giant box in my hands twice and now regret not buying it...

10179 re-release, slim to none. TLG have been burnt in the past by re-releasing old sets and are unlikely to do it again.

A redesign is more likely, but possibly not just yet. I think a UCS Tie fighter is possibly more likely next. I think it'll depend somewhat on whether TLG think they can improve upon the existing MF design to capture the collectors eye once more.

I bought a copy just after it became unavailable in 2010 - I think it is very hard to predict if Lego would do another version, really we can only speculate on possible considerations they would make.

(My speculation)

  • Firstly, I wouldn't expect them to re-release 10179 ever. Instead I think IF they went there it would be a new design as was done with the X-Wing.
  • Secondly, they would be asking how many people they could sell to, as I understand the Falcon only became unavailable in 2010, so there will be a lot of AFOL's who picked one up then... without significant improvements it would probably be hard to sell to that segment at the kind of price they would need to sell at, but by the same token if there is an expanding market particularly because of new movies and given the Falcon's popularity it may still have a better market than other sets of that size? (I can't help but wonder if even now a Falcon UCS vs the SSD which would sell better)... But then I have no idea how well it sold during it's run?!?
  • Another thing to consider is that Lego would probably only put one new model out at that size every few years, so are there other models they'd sooner do?! I would anticipate a Venerator as the next, there seem to be some incredible MOC's of that already, I'm sure Lego would want to get out their version while a lot of interest is in that ship... And then with the upcoming movies (if they're popular) will new designs show up that become crowd favorites.
  • Of course if the movies bomb (unlikely but possible) would Star Wars remain a line for them?!
  • Plus there is the relative newness of the UCS Falcon, as said before it was available till early 2010... would one within 5yrs of it's run be too early?

Regarding your second question, I would say depending how you look at it there are flaws in the 10179... But this is probably a price point thing, and also there is a certain benefit and poetry in the model not being perfect leaving it up to people to customise their set (much like the actual Falcon was much modified in the Star Wars universe).

  • To be more specific, the model does not really have an interior to speak of (something that would make the set magnitudes better given it is supposedly truly minifig scale set (you can see some moc's of this and they're incredible!)
  • The armor plating on the top of the model is not really properly attached, it just kind of slots on, but can be bumped around and lifted off
  • A few small stickers for the cockpit
  • hmmm, that's all I can think of...

Yeah I love this set :classic:

Well I hope that they do release it again so you can get it... Of course for me I'd hope they released other older UCS sets since I already have that, I would love to get my hands on a Star Destroyer, or something like the original Blockade Runner (I got the Tantive IV), or the Hoth Speeder, the design on those cannons looks great :classic:

p.s. I agree the after market prices are outrageous, although that by itself I don't think is something Lego would be too concerned about and perhaps is quietly happy about as it indicates people really value their product. Although I do hope LEgo is mindful of that aftermarket getting out of control (crazy markups do seem to be a sign as it encourages lots of people to get in on the bandwagon).

But Sadly the way to avoid those prices is to get the sets when they're in production if possible, personally I'm trying to avoid any aftermarket purchases as I've come to realise that Lego will more than have my needs covered with current and new sets anyway to the extent that even now I can't afford them all.

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Althought i am a Sucher for this set i agree with Alternator that i do not see a close release of something like the MF. 2010 is too close from now for such a small market (compare system X-Wing sales with USC MF). Of cause there are many like me whining here they do not have sure a ship, but we are in total maybe a couple of thousands. But Lego needs 100.000s sales per set.

Maybe we see the MF again in SW 7, maybe with different painting plus cloaking device. So that there will be a reason to update this set.

Dino

I thought lego said they were going to re-release it as they had been monitoring the prices in the secondary market - I'm sure we had an announcement from TLG?

10179 re-release, slim to none. TLG have been burnt in the past by re-releasing old sets and are unlikely to do it again

I'm fairly sure he meant re-releasing a UCS Falcon, not the exact set again, since he talks about improvements.

Before they re-released the X-wing I would say slim to none. Now I would say it's happening in the next five years, no doubt.

I know sellers/collectors/traders won't be haply with a rerelease.

Agreed, but the resell on that set isn't even close to fair.

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Before they re-released the X-wing I would say slim to none. Now I would say it's happening in the next five years, no doubt.

I suppose it to be likely to happen as well. I'll rather wait for a re-release than bricklinking a UCS falcon or buying a UCS falcon now.

I agree that it's possible now but not too soon.

I thought lego said they were going to re-release it as they had been monitoring the prices in the secondary market - I'm sure we had an announcement from TLG?

You might be thinking of this April Fool's joke from last year: http://www.brickset.com/news/article/?id=2887

I personally don't think Lego will ever release another minifigure-scale Millennium Falcon. If you factor in the increasing cost of Lego sets, we'd be looking at a $600+ Lego model...which is better than current secondary market prices, but if so many people already own 10179, I don't see demand being quite as high.

My most wanted set but sadly I don't see it happening for a good while. It dook them what, 13 years to release a new version of the UCS X-Wing? The Falcon is from like 2006. I know that's hardly evidence but I'm seriously doubting they'll do it for a while. At the earliest perhaps when Episode VII comes out if it has the Falcon (it supposedly does via an interview). But they'd probably release it in the normal set...

As for improvements. I don't own it but one thing I did notice was the cockpit's fake or lack of windows. It's just a few bars to give the illusion. I'd want that to be a real transparent mold. As it needs proper interiors.

They'll never re-release it as is...they may create a similar set with different features. I imagine they'll look closely at sales of the new X-wing to see if they want to remake further UCS models.

With that said, it works to Lego's favor to have an immortal, chase set like the 10179 out there that create in people's minds the impression that whatever set they're buying could be the next big one.

I hope they don't re-release that set it was pretty good when they first did it. There's no need to go back and make numerous versions of UCS sets, the X-Wing can at least be customised to make a number of different red alternatives but there was only 1 Millennium Falcon. With the new movies coming I think we will get some of those, personally I'd kill for a UCS slave 1.

You might be thinking of this April Fool's joke from last year: http://www.brickset....rticle/?id=2887

I personally don't think Lego will ever release another minifigure-scale Millennium Falcon. If you factor in the increasing cost of Lego sets, we'd be looking at a $600+ Lego model...which is better than current secondary market prices, but if so many people already own 10179, I don't see demand being quite as high.

But clearly the demand is quite high, for the secondary market prices to be what they are.

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As others have said, given that they've now done the X-Wing Fighter as a UCS-type set for a second time, I think the chances of a new UCS-style version of the Millennium Falcon are excellent, with the caveat that we don't really know when it'll happen. This new X-Wing did happen, after all, but it happened more than ten years after that original UCS X-Wing, and both of those are much less expensive sets than 10179, and presumably less than what a new Falcon would be if they truly wanted to top 10179.

Even so, though, I do think it's fairly likely eventually. If nothing else, I'd say that of all the Star Wars vehicles that have gotten UCS treatment already, the Millennium Falcon is by far the strongest candidate for redoing - it's an immensely iconic and popular vessel, and the existing "ultimate" set is feverishly sought after for exorbitant prices, and for all its many glories there's still tremendous opportunity for a new version to be even better...

... which of course brings up that question of what could be improved upon. Obviously, a detailed interior would be a huge difference that would make redoing the ship worthwhile all by itself, even if it retained the exact same exterior (which of course it wouldn't). A detailed interior would also allow for various internal play features (if "play" is really something one discusses with a set like this, granted), and there are any number of other things that could be done with it. Also, while 10179 is absolutely beautiful on the whole, there are still a few areas that could perhaps be improved upon, such as the cockpit tube and cockpit. How about optional alternate landing gear configurations, to allow building it in either its A New Hope form or the modified form from the next two movies? We expect certain action features, like movable dish antenna, turret cannons and entrance ramp, but how about the interior hatch behind the ramp, or the elevator and top hatch, or the concealed antipersonnel blaster cannon? Could some of this be motorized, or driven by pneumatics? What about lighting (exterior and/or interior)? How about a more substantial complement of minifigures? It could be done like the Death Star set, with a huge number of minifigures to represent all the characters who flew aboard her, in all scenes from the trilogy, in all their different outfits and "looks" - Han (in multiple outfits, from ANH to RotJ), Chewie, Lando (multiple outfits again), Leia (ditto), Luke (the same), Artoo, Threepio, Ben, Nien Nunb, the Rebel gunners from the Battle of Endor, maybe even the ill-fated Death Star scanning crew and some stormtroopers, EU characters... it could actually have dozens of minifigures.

I don't pretend to know whether any or all of these might be actual considerations; I surely realize that if they actually incorporated all of this, it'd make for a very expensive MSRP. It may well be that it'd just be beyond whatever TLG considers their absolute, inviolable price ceiling for a set, but then 10179 itself was unprecedented in its pricing (and is still the set with the highest MSRP of any set released to this day), yet it apparently did well all the same. I think this might even be a reason for them to do it, if simply as a sort of market experiment to see whether they can actually offer and sell a set that sells for, oh, perhaps $600, $700 or even $800. The one thing I am certain of, though, is that TLG surely knows there is a definite, continuing market for a "deluxe" model of the Millennium Falcon, and I don't expect them to ignore that forever. How long it might be before they decide to act on it, I couldn't say, but after the new X-Wing I think it's quite likely they'll do so eventually.

There's no need to go back and make numerous versions of UCS sets

By releasing another X-wing, TLG has shown that they'll release whatever they want to make money. A new Falcon is inevitable (assuming the release of another X-wing wasn't a one-shot deal).

I too would love a UCS Slave I, I just hope it's not a PT Slave I.

I agree with everyone here. It will happen, but the when is unknown. You would think they would wait to see how profitable the new UCS X-Wing release is before they consider doing anything.

It does help people like me who only recently got into LEGO SW and could buy these lovely new UCS models. I will never buy the original UCS x-wing, but the new one is tempting for sure. Therefore, a new UCS MF in the future will be a good purchase for many people. It might even tip off other collectors/resellers to think they could make a lot of money on it (who knows if they would), but the interest would be there I'm sure. But with that said, I'm content with last year's TIE and X-Wing and 2011's MF. Those are all superb models to say the least.

What happened to the Sand Crawler on Cuusoo?

It made 10,000, is sat in the review stage at the moment. It would be awesome but I suspect it won't make it to production.

  • 7 months later...

I emailed TLG regarding 10179 and if there was going to be a rerelease,

They informed me that it may be happening this year but they would not give me a date of when it will happen.

^ That seems highly unlikely. Not only does Lego never give out specific information about upcoming sets, but it's highly unlikely that they would do a straight re-release 10179.

nope ..not a troll.

I have been reading heaps of threads with people asking etc

So I emailed them, here is the response (I just copied and pasted it here)

Dear John,

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

Isn’t it exciting that there are so many new LEGO® sets every year? It’s great to see you’re eagerly waiting and trying to find out about what we’ve planned for the future.

I'm sorry that I can’t tell you anything about our future Star Wars sets at the moment. Something like that will be coming soon, but our new toys are always kept secret until they’re announced in the catalogue or on LEGO.com. That’s because it takes a long time to design and make new toys, and we sometimes need every minute until they hit the shelves to make them perfect. Besides... we look forward to surprising you!

Thanks again for getting in touch. We're always pleased to receive feedback! If you could take a moment to complete a four question survey by going to the link below, it will help us make sure we are providing the best customer service to you.

LEGO Survey link

Please let us know if you need anything else.

Happy building!

LEGO Service

Did You Know?

There are 86 LEGO bricks for every person on earth.

So yeh guys not a troll just heaps keen to get my hands on one and thought I would ask the question

Cheers

Coollamon

"something like that" Besides that it won't be coming this year, as we know pretty much everything coming out this year, they may have simply meant something at that size scale.

nope ..not a troll.

I have been reading heaps of threads with people asking etc

So I emailed them, here is the response (I just copied and pasted it here)

Dear John,

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

Isn’t it exciting that there are so many new LEGO® sets every year? It’s great to see you’re eagerly waiting and trying to find out about what we’ve planned for the future.

I'm sorry that I can’t tell you anything about our future Star Wars sets at the moment. Something like that will be coming soon, but our new toys are always kept secret until they’re announced in the catalogue or on LEGO.com. That’s because it takes a long time to design and make new toys, and we sometimes need every minute until they hit the shelves to make them perfect. Besides... we look forward to surprising you!

Thanks again for getting in touch. We're always pleased to receive feedback! If you could take a moment to complete a four question survey by going to the link below, it will help us make sure we are providing the best customer service to you.

LEGO Survey link

Please let us know if you need anything else.

Happy building!

LEGO Service

Did You Know?

There are 86 LEGO bricks for every person on earth.

So yeh guys not a troll just heaps keen to get my hands on one and thought I would ask the question

Cheers

Coollamon

That's the same exact robot generated form response that they send to anyone regarding any question over new or upcoming releases. It doesn't mean anything. It is literally a form letter. You would get the same response if you had asked about any future Star Wars set. It's just a polite and enthusiastic way of saying "We never ever talk about unanounced products!" It means nothing and certainly is no indication that whatever you are asking about is anywhere in consideration of being made. The only human contact your e-mail may have had was a CS rep might have selected which one of the specific form letters to send. ("OK this one is Star Wars")

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