Galaxy Explorer Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 As I passed on nearly all the Clone Wars sets back in 2008 I am very happy to see new film versions of these vehicles. Attack of the Clones seems to be the least represented of all the films, so a new Gunship, AT-TE, etc. are most welcome! I was thinking though, was a Clone Trooper ever placed in a wing turret during the film? I very recently watched the film on Blu-ray and cannot see anyone sitting in them. I also looked at the Incredible Cross-sections book, and again, no gunner. No big deal as it adds to playability. Now, about that Sail Barge. I am 100% sure I will pick this up. The minifig selection is excellent and as some others pointed out a great addition to Jabba's entourage. I'm fine with Max Rebo being the only band member included, but he's the only one I can see on the barge in the film anyway. The Barge itself leaves me a little disappointed. It's just not big enough. Back in 2006 I felt the same way- I really felt it should have been a $100 set like the ISD was. This year is no different and I would gladly pay $120-30 for a 1200 piece set. That being said, I still think it looks nice for it's size and I'm sure when official pics are released I will very much want one! Quote
GuntherThePenguin Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Hint - Coleman Trebor died before the clone wars But seriously though I don't mean to be rude but if you followed the posts from previous pages you would already know it is not CW this year. *forehead slap* Yes. I knew that! Sorry I completely forgot. And I don't mean to be rude but I usually actually have things going on in my life, so I don't have time to constantly check this forum. And just because most of the other sets aren't CW doesn't mean that one particular set could be... Quote
legofreak86 Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Looks like an awesome lineup for the summer range epecially the minifigs darth maul cw,jango fett and count dooku.Just after seeing darth sidious in action in the last episode of clone wars with those two sabers i bet he would make an awesome cw minifig his costume is unique to cw after all. Quote
Lord Rahl of Clannad Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Are we going to get any pictures of these sets from Nuremberg? Because it is seeming less and less likely every passing day. Quote
UnknownClone Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 *forehead slap* Yes. I knew that! Sorry I completely forgot. And I don't mean to be rude but I usually actually have things going on in my life, so I don't have time to constantly check this forum. And just because most of the other sets aren't CW doesn't mean that one particular set could be... Right you are too busy to look at previous pages yet not to busy to post after reading about the AT-TE which is a couple of pages back. And again if you had read previous pages there aren't many CW sets for the summer wave also the fact that we just got a few CW sets, Lego has to balance it out with something so people who don't like CW can buy something. Quote
Sir_Basil_Ashton Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 As much of a CW fan I am, I am happy to get some non CW sets to get some new and different Phase I Clones. With the CW sets moving into Phase II armor, I doubt we'll get anymore CW Phase I Clones, at least for awhile. Hopefully the plain Clones show up in more of the future sets. Quote
Legoman123 Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Well going onto the Ewok village quickly, i think they will make thee celebration set because more people would prefer if the lego set was from that part of the film, also i think that lego could quite easily make the force ghosts because they are making the king of the dead and two soldiers of the dead from lord of the rings and in the film they are just as transparent as the force ghost the only difference is that the force ghosts are blue and the king of the dead and his soldiers are green, but other than that that is the only difference. Quote
diamond Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Well going onto the Ewok village quickly, i think they will make thee celebration set because more people would prefer if the lego set was from that part of the film, also i think that lego could quite easily make the force ghosts because they are making the king of the dead and two soldiers of the dead from lord of the rings and in the film they are just as transparent as the force ghost the only difference is that the force ghosts are blue and the king of the dead and his soldiers are green, but other than that that is the only difference. It does seem to fit that it will be lego ewok village celerbration set this year. As legoman points out there are ghosts this year. Plus it is return of the jedi wave year (even the a wing is a ROTJ a wing). I have a good feeling and I would definately buy it Quote
legocaptainrexfan Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 yes my dreams will come true i have always wanted force ghosts now hopefully we can get them Quote
NovaSentinel Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 hate to dissapoint but the lotr undead soldiers are just solid plastic, and I find it hard to believe tlg will do translucent force ghosts if they didn't do it here... Quote
jimmynick Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 The 20th slide of the presentation "Stressing the Elements" explains why a transparent force ghost is a no-go for TLG: Imagine how bad it would be to have an entire minifigure made out of polycarbonate - You wouldn't be able to pose them and they'd probably be fragile to some extent. My experience with polycarbonate includes sticking my Mace Windu lightsaber blade through the axle-hole in a trans-clear 2x2 round brick. It's been that way for several years and I have no hope of separating them. TLG could to glow-in-the-dark force ghosts, but that would just be wrong. Rather, I feel TLG should make a force ghost in the way they approached Peeves in Harry Potter. But at any rate, force ghosts are just speculation at this point. Quote
UnknownClone Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Everybody is complaining about force ghosts saying Lego cannot do them because of the plastic they use, so why don't they switch to the plastic mega bloks use just for transparent figures because mega bloks has released several active camo figures in different colours too just for the halo line, so why don't Lego use the same kinda plastic to create "invisible" figures or something? Quote
Ceroknight Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Everybody is complaining about force ghosts saying Lego cannot do them because of the plastic they use, so why don't they switch to the plastic mega bloks use just for transparent figures because mega bloks has released several active camo figures in different colours too just for the halo line, so why don't Lego use the same kinda plastic to create "invisible" figures or something? I hope they don't, quality is more important for me at least.. Quote
UnknownClone Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Add on to my previous post: they could just make them like the emperor palpatine hologram from the star destroyer that was released years ago. I personally only see force ghost figures being used only for display as in my opinion I see no other real use for them I hope they don't, quality is more important for me at least.. The quality of the megabloks figures is excellent so I don't know why you said that it's only a plastic used by a different company "oh no the quality will suck" -.- dude it's plastic and that plastics quality seems to be great so I don't know why you're complaining Quote
Bobsy Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Everybody is complaining about force ghosts saying Lego cannot do them because of the plastic they use, so why don't they switch to the plastic mega bloks use just for transparent figures because mega bloks has released several active camo figures in different colours too just for the halo line, so why don't Lego use the same kinda plastic to create "invisible" figures or something? *sigh* Two reasons, both applying to quality. LEGO has rather strict quality rules, which is one of the reasons they remain market leader since losing their monopoly on plastic building blocks. Firstly, look at the internal structure of a minifig. It's not hollow. It's extremely intricate, with the arm joints, the pegs where the legs join the torso and the friction internals to keep the legs from falling out. There's the long 'neck' normally hidden inside a minifig head. Not to mention the hip joints that plug into the legs Now imagine you could see all those internal bits all the time. You wouldn't see a ghost, you'd see a see-through lump of plastic. Secondly, the plastic used to make transparent pieces is not the same plastic they use in opaque pieces. It's more brittle, more prone to wear. All minifig torsos go through some stress when they're assembled in the first place when the arms are popped in - it's unavoidable. In normal ABS this is acceptable, and rarely leads to cracking unless you switch arms frequently. With the transparent plastic it will crack much, much quicker. So yeah. Quality. LEGO want toys that will last, and they also want toys that aren't ugly as sin. That's why. Quote
UnknownClone Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 *sigh* Two reasons, both applying to quality. LEGO has rather strict quality rules, which is one of the reasons they remain market leader since losing their monopoly on plastic building blocks. Firstly, look at the internal structure of a minifig. It's not hollow. It's extremely intricate, with the arm joints, the pegs where the legs join the torso and the friction internals to keep the legs from falling out. There's the long 'neck' normally hidden inside a minifig head. Not to mention the hip joints that plug into the legs Now imagine you could see all those internal bits all the time. You wouldn't see a ghost, you'd see a see-through lump of plastic. Secondly, the plastic used to make transparent pieces is not the same plastic they use in opaque pieces. It's more brittle, more prone to wear. All minifig torsos go through some stress when they're assembled in the first place when the arms are popped in - it's unavoidable. In normal ABS this is acceptable, and rarely leads to cracking unless you switch arms frequently. With the transparent plastic it will crack much, much quicker. So yeah. Quality. LEGO want toys that will last, and they also want toys that aren't ugly as sin. That's why. No need to seem like you're trying to bite my head off! I was only asking why they wouldn't do it. Another idea could just be to do something like the emperor palpatine hologram from the star destroyer that was released a few years ago Quote
strangely Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I feel like the figures don't really have to be transparent. For the most part the force ghosts are only vaguely transparent, most of the time you can see very little through them. I feel like so long as they have the parts in a blue than it would be a perfectly acceptable substitute (Perhaps even something glow in the dark would help. Quote
Rufus Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 No need to seem like you're trying to bite my head off! I was only asking why they wouldn't do it. You are worried about someone criticising you, and yet... Right you are too busy to look at previous pages yet not to busy to post after reading about the AT-TE which is a couple of pages back. And again if you had read previous pages there aren't many CW sets for the summer wave also the fact that we just got a few CW sets, Lego has to balance it out with something so people who don't like CW can buy something. Please don't be too quick to pass judgement on others. Everyone please remember: this thread is for discussion of the new sets, not for off-topic discussions or for attacking one another. Also, please take your time when posting; re-read what you've written and consider how it may sound to others. While you're at it, do please make every effort to punctuate and capitalise appropriately. Thank you. Quote
Legoman123 Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 What I meant with the force ghosts was that they don't need to be transparent they could make them like the Lotr king of the dead, all I am saying is it is wry possible and likely them will make then transparent or not. Quote
Albus Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I think that a bright blue (perhaps the Alien Defence blue? Or something lighter maybe?) would be perfectly suitable for force ghosts. It's bright enough for them to look like "more than just a normal character", obvious enough that they're ghosts. I have had problems with transparent red 1x1 cones, and solid colour lightsaber pieces (light grey, the pieces were assembled this way in the 2005 Droid Tri-Fighter). One particular wand piece is all bent because no-one could remove it from the cone... I definitely do not want transparent minifigures if it is going to compromise quality. I can imagine printing might be an issue on transparent minifigures too. Quote
kermit Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 The Barge itself leaves me a little disappointed. It's just not big enough. Back in 2006 I felt the same way- I really felt it should have been a $100 set like the ISD was. This year is no different and I would gladly pay $120-30 for a 1200 piece set. That being said, I still think it looks nice for it's size and I'm sure when official pics are released I will very much want one! I think the barge would be a $100 set or about $120 due to jabba, the new minifigures and it being the sail barge. Quote
Lord Rahl of Clannad Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I think the barge would be a $100 set or about $120 due to jabba, the new minifigures and it being the sail barge. I don't think that the Sail Barge (which I think is awful BTW) will be that expensive, as such a price (if my knowledge of US pricing is at all accurate) is generally reserved for the largest set of the Star Wars summer wave. This summer, the largest set is the Republic Gunship (I think). Quote
Cyberbricker Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I was looking at a slightly enlarged picture of the the new AT-TE, and it was hard to tell, but are they using a new mold for the weapons of the clone troopers and battle droids? sorry if this has been ask already. Quote
Brickadeer Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I was looking at a slightly enlarged picture of the the new AT-TE, and it was hard to tell, but are they using a new mold for the weapons of the clone troopers and battle droids? sorry if this has been ask already. The gun looks different, so it's possible. My guess is though that it's a standard gun modified with one or more pieces. Quote
UnknownClone Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 You are worried about someone criticising you, and yet... Please don't be too quick to pass judgement on others. 1. My post regarding the AT-TE is a valid point and 2. My other post was also valid as it seemed like he was mad about typing it out when he could simply have explained it with out the *sigh* part! Quote
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