So I did some talking about this with krispy on his MOC B-Wing thread, and he was awesome and MOC'd up a build for Deathraven there. Sadly I didn't have the funds to acquire the parts, that's still my eventual goal as his MOC looks way better than anything official, so I made my own build by smashing together two official sets (kinda like how the actual ship was made).

The Star Fighter in its parked position.

S-foils deployed.

Vertical

Swooshing

I had to make very few modifications from the stock instructions to create this build. If people want details I'll be happy to post about them. There are a couple more pictures as well, but I don't want to make a huge post, and if it's desired I'll add them, or take photos of specific things, if people want that. I'm not sure if it conveys well in the photo but i can swoosh it around like a toy pretty well and was quite aggressive with it with no issues. Once again, thanks to krispy for giving me the motivation to go ahead and do this. Hopefully you guys like it.

Apparently my image extension is no good for the forums... the links just go to my Flickr account, I'm not sure what I did wrong.

Not bad. The cockpit looks a little small compared to the rest of the craft; I think bulking up the 'bridge' area and making the cockpit a little larger would make it look even better.

I've embedded one of the pictures for you. See also the tutorial on embedding pictures from flickr.

Thanks for the help there. Yeah the cockpit does look small in comparison, I'll have to look at the source picture to see if expanding it is warranted, I tried to stick as close to the given description of what it was as possible.

Edit: And upon review it's the B-Wing/E2 so it's supposed to be two people, pilot and passenger wide, so that'll require some engineering on my part as I don't know of any canopies that are that wide.

Edited June 18, 201311 yr by TigerWolfe

I'm fairly certain you can squeeze two 'figs almost side-by-side into the System Falcon cockpit (a 8x4x6 half-cone), but that might be too angular on the edges. (Plus it's printed, and the cone doesn't come in trans without printing.) Brick-built solution might be best.

Good MOD with the two, although it looks kinda spindly toward the middle there. I hope you will do the BIG one!

I'm fairly certain you can squeeze two 'figs almost side-by-side into the System Falcon cockpit (a 8x4x6 half-cone), but that might be too angular on the edges. (Plus it's printed, and the cone doesn't come in trans without printing.) Brick-built solution might be best.

The passenger/gunner in the E2 sits behind the pilot in a elongated cockpit, so perhaps Eta Starfighter cockpit might make a better choice?

The passenger/gunner in the E2 sits behind the pilot in a elongated cockpit, so perhaps Eta Starfighter cockpit might make a better choice?

That cockpit is used for the UCS B-wing, though, for comparison, so I think it'll be too large for this model. (Which even though it's supposed to be large, is still scaled to a System set.)

The passenger/gunner in the E2 sits behind the pilot in a elongated cockpit, so perhaps Eta Starfighter cockpit might make a better choice?

Is it behind? I was under the impression from the wiki that the E was set up one behind the other. While the E2, designed by Ackbar and used in Deathraven, is side by side.

Is it behind? I was under the impression from the wiki that the E was set up one behind the other. While the E2, designed by Ackbar and used in Deathraven, is side by side.

There are two shuttle types, the B-Wing/E Shuttle which is pilot then passenger like the normal E and the B-Wing/Shuttle which is still pilot and then 2 passengers that next each other. Ackbar's E2 was his personal modified E which evolved in to the B-Wing/Shuttle. As for dubbing the Deathraven as E2's was a mistake on WotC part, as the E2 was never mass produced. I should have just said E before in my previous post too, a mistake on my part.

Edited June 19, 201311 yr by Knightsword

Sorry for the double post, but why not use one of these, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=61191

That cockpit is used for the UCS B-wing, though, for comparison, so I think it'll be too large for this model. (Which even though it's supposed to be large, is still scaled to a System set.)

Yeah but its actually too small for the UCS one, thats why they sort of pad it out with the curved slopes around it. The Eta cockpit is probably a decent option (and would probably look a lot better for a minifig scale B wing. If you do need the near side by side also look at the cockpit piece from the T6 Jedi Shuttle The cockpit area from the Avengers Quinjet could also probably be modified to seat 2. If not directly side by side that slightly offset one behind the other like is done in the MF and T6.

Yeah but its actually too small for the UCS one, thats why they sort of pad it out with the curved slopes around it. The Eta cockpit is probably a decent option (and would probably look a lot better for a minifig scale B wing.

You're right. I'm completely forgetting that the very MOC that inspired this mod uses the Eta cockpit.

So thoughts. After having looked at the picture, on the wiki that I linked in the OP, I think despite the E2 being rare that that's what it's supposed to be. So that means wider rather than longer. Now visual style wise, as it was already pointed out, the thing looks spindly in the middle, so going for the elongated cockpit, won't really help that. Canon wise, whether a mistake was made or not, it's canon that the ship is an E2, so I'd like to stick with that. 3rd, if one were a bounty hunter, I think I'd rather cart my prey around next to me, rather than having them sitting behind me. So I think I'm definitely gonna go with the wider version, which of course... is the more difficult way to go. Some ideas I've had involve having the actual cockpit compartment wider than the canopy, although that kills the potential for ejection, which the E2 could do, or cobbling together some sort of extra wide canopy. Another thing of note, from looking at the image in the wiki, the canopy appears to be more sharply angled than rounded, that might make cobbling together a wide one easier... maybe...

Here is a pic of the 'original' :

There is also a variant:

I would indeed give the centre some more body; I do applaud for making such an unknown ship though

So thoughts. After having looked at the picture, on the wiki that I linked in the OP, I think despite the E2 being rare that that's what it's supposed to be. So that means wider rather than longer. Now visual style wise, as it was already pointed out, the thing looks spindly in the middle, so going for the elongated cockpit, won't really help that. Canon wise, whether a mistake was made or not, it's canon that the ship is an E2, so I'd like to stick with that. 3rd, if one were a bounty hunter, I think I'd rather cart my prey around next to me, rather than having them sitting behind me. So I think I'm definitely gonna go with the wider version, which of course... is the more difficult way to go. Some ideas I've had involve having the actual cockpit compartment wider than the canopy, although that kills the potential for ejection, which the E2 could do, or cobbling together some sort of extra wide canopy. Another thing of note, from looking at the image in the wiki, the canopy appears to be more sharply angled than rounded, that might make cobbling together a wide one easier... maybe...

It's an invention of the D20 Star Wars, that was never seen again, so really it could be anything you want. But it might be hard for some to make out, but the picture shows only a single seat and pilot in the center of the cockpit.

Edit- After thinking about it and comparing images, I think copying the QuinJet's cockpit (at least the outer shape) would be pretty much spot on for the front and something similar for the back.

Edited June 19, 201311 yr by Knightsword

I don't like how the Quinjet canopy has those two curved edges running down its length where the top panel and side panels join. Looking at the picture, it's hard to tell if the grey lines in those spots are edges or not, but looking at the rounded off front and back ends of the canopy which don't have any angles in them, I think the grey lines also follow the curve of the canopy and aren't angles/edges. I would still suggest going with the Falcon's canopy, the 6x4x8 half-cone.

So I've already ordered a Falcon Cockpit off of ebay, found it for like 2 bucks, but I like the shape of the Quinjet one as well. Would my assessment that the Quinjet cockpit is too dark to mesh with the Deathraven body, be accurate? I'm trying to figure out if I should just order the pieces to make the cockpit separate or if I should just order a Quinjet and cannibalize it. Either way it looks big enough to go with either side by side, after some creative building, or one behind the other.

On the subject of canon. Oh man this thing is a nightmare. The artwork doesn't match the description, and the wiki entry for Erron Kell, the pilot, says he used a different type of B-Wing than the wiki entry for Deathraven states. The kicker there is that they both cite the same source material. Which makes all the exposition about Kell in the wiki confusing as to its source. /end rant

Looks nice, but I do think the cockpit could do with some beefing up. Maybe some 3x3 wing plates could help, given the reference picture? You could even try to use a canopy like in the Millennium Falcon sets - that size of cone might be a bit big, though.

The reference indicates that the cockpit is about the size of an engine pod, so try working with the sizes on everything until you get what you want. But working on the cockpit looks easiest.

Thats the failing of the wiki, including everything from the multitude of RPG sources, at most the Deathraven should have been a footnote on the main B-Wing page. The Falcon cockpit is a nice size but it is hard to work with and to me seems to be to big for the scale of the 6208.

Thats the failing of the wiki, including everything from the multitude of RPG sources, at most the Deathraven should have been a footnote on the main B-Wing page. The Falcon cockpit is a nice size but it is hard to work with and to me seems to be to big for the scale of the 6208.

That's actually a concern I have, I'm worried it'll be too long. I'll have to see when it comes in.

This is the canopy piece from the Jedi T6 shuttle. It's the same windscreen that the Quinjet uses, just lighter transclear and with printing that may be better suited to a SW ship.

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=45705pb011

That's actually a concern I have, I'm worried it'll be too long. I'll have to see when it comes in.

Frankly I think its an ugly piece and it's very distinctive of the Falcon and Corellian ships in general. Now if you were doing the Corellian/B-Wing Ugly that would be one thing. Now here's another Idea I had, take the cockpit section of Pre Vizsla's Mandalorian Fighter, ditch the front part of it and swap the white for bley and add it to the b-wing.

Frankly I think its an ugly piece and it's very distinctive of the Falcon and Corellian ships in general. Now if you were doing the Corellian/B-Wing Ugly that would be one thing. Now here's another Idea I had, take the cockpit section of Pre Vizsla's Mandalorian Fighter, ditch the front part of it and swap the white for bley and add it to the b-wing.

That might work... but if I kinda wanna build that ship, not scrap it for parts :D. I think the Quinjet one looked good, although as is I think it might be too dark, perhaps a color swap.

Gotta love the wiki, the corrected listing of 2 B-Wing/E's being used is on Erron Kell's page, but not the Deathraven's page. At least someone was paying attention the WotC's errata fixes. Anyway your work gave me the kick in the butt to get this done finally too. I've had the 2 6208's sitting storage for years, to do just what you did. As we had a player in our gaming group "inherit" the Deathraven.

Gotta love the wiki, the corrected listing of 2 B-Wing/E's being used is on Erron Kell's page, but not the Deathraven's page. At least someone was paying attention the WotC's errata fixes. Anyway your work gave me the kick in the butt to get this done finally too. I've had the 2 6208's sitting storage for years, to do just what you did. As we had a player in our gaming group "inherit" the Deathraven.

They fixed that in errata? I have the original book, but I've only ever played one session sadly, so errata is definitely not something I kept up on for it. I remember being so excited when I saw Deathraven in there, because it had been floating around in my head as an idea ever since I'd read about Uglies in the EU. I've always kinda wanted to build a Die-wing too.