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Ninjago may just do even better.

Are you referring to box office take? In that case, there's no way a Ninjago movie would perform better. The LEGO Movie has an insane amount of brand recognition and nostalgia driving theater goers; narrow that down to a specific, modern play theme and you lose a significant portion of that audience.

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Thanks! If they follow the rule of the Star Wars Original Trilogy, then they will take us to three realms per movie. The first was Bricksburg/Octan, Wild West, and Cloud Cuckoo Land... So the next two should show us more of Middle Zealand, Pirate's Cove, Dino Island, Ancient Egypt, Atlantis, and Cape Space... Perhaps with tie-ins to Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.

P.S. - Does anyone know what that dark-red realm in the far south is? It is called [something] Landing, but the subtitles are blocking it out. Or how about the big grey one just north of that, or the big light-blue one just east of that?

The one covered by the subtitles is Viking's Landing. Not sure about the others, though.

Equally interesting it came out why the sequel will have different writers. Phil Lord and Chris Miller to co writer/directors of The Lego Movie will be too busy writing and directing...

Drum roll please

NINJAGO!

Although I already knew about this, I should say that with how excellent the Lego Movie was...

Ninjago may just do even better.

I was stoked for The Lego Movie... but Ninjago? :grin_wub:

Ah, so I am guessing that the big grey unlabeled territory near the bottom of the map is the land of the Ninjas.

1) There must be a Ninja territory somewhere.

2) It is generally shaped like Japan.

3) It is big enough to do justice to a popular theme like Ninjas.

And they may have left it unlabeled because they weren't sure if they were going to give it a generic name, or specifically call it "Ninjago" on the map.

I guess it depends on whether the Ninjago movie is taking place in the same world, and if it uses the same stop-motion physics for the minifigs' movements.

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Any one else notice the name in the far west of the map? Forest of Obsolete products!!! That's hilarious...and foreboding.

I bet Galidor, Fabuland, 4 Juniors, Znap and Ben 10 go there.

Who hopes we'll see some Bionicle and Hero Factory in the second film?

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Are you referring to box office take? In that case, there's no way a Ninjago movie would perform better. The LEGO Movie has an insane amount of brand recognition and nostalgia driving theater goers; narrow that does to a specific, modern play theme and you lose a significant portion of that audience.

You're making it seem like the two movies will have the exact same audience, the NINJAGO movie won't be exactly like The LEGO Movie. And there is a way that the NINJAGO movie will do better. As it is, The LEGO Movie's sequel is shaping up to be a failure because Phil and Chris will be directing the NINJAGO movie, while some other duo will be doing the sequel. If the track record of Phil and Chris continues, it will be brilliant.

As it is, we know nothing about the NINJAGO movie yet other than the directors and the actors (well, more or less, I doubt they'll make many changes if they do). But you're also discarding the entirety of NINJAGO itself anyway, NINJAGO is filled with pop culture and other LEGO line references, if pulled off correctly it'll be a gold mine of potential.

Any one else notice the name in the far west of the map? Forest of Obsolete products!!! That's hilarious...and foreboding.

I'm certain Galidor rules over most of that region (not to mention it deserves to be sealed off :grin: )

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Quite frankly I am not really excited by this sequel news. One movie is plenty enough and to go further is likely to ruin the charm of the first.

However, there are ways a sequel could improve upon the original for me: Less licensed characters. (I like Batman but didn't completely like his inclusion as a major character.) Less butt jokes. BIONICLE screen time.

Personally I hope they don't go the DUPLO attack storyline route, I just don't see enough potential in that.

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Are you referring to box office take? In that case, there's no way a Ninjago movie would perform better. The LEGO Movie has an insane amount of brand recognition and nostalgia driving theater goers; narrow that does to a specific, modern play theme and you lose a significant portion of that audience.

You're right, that isn't what I meant. I was meaning to say "be" as opposed to "do".

Even then, advertising the movie as "Form the creators of The Lego Movie" as well as leaving the Lego logo next to the title for the movie, you still get the brand recognition. Still, being that it isn't as broad of a demographic, you may be right that it might not do as well in the box office.

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Oh gosh, I just got something...

Cloud Cuckooland is located above Middle Zealand, right? And it's not on that map. That makes perfect sense...

...given that it would originally have been located in Finn's room or the living room, literally above the basement. It wouldn't be on the map, because Finn's father wouldn't even think about Cloud Cuckooland in his organization of all his themes.

:grin:

...Or they simply didn't know it existed or where it was.

Are you referring to box office take? In that case, there's no way a Ninjago movie would perform better. The LEGO Movie has an insane amount of brand recognition and nostalgia driving theater goers; narrow that does to a specific, modern play theme and you lose a significant portion of that audience.

Just slap a LEGO in the title like "LEGO N1NJAHGO TEH MOVEH!!1!"

EDIT: Ninja'd.

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You're making it seem like the two movies will have the exact same audience, the NINJAGO movie won't be exactly like The LEGO Movie. And there is a way that the NINJAGO movie will do better. As it is, The LEGO Movie's sequel is shaping up to be a failure because Phil and Chris will be directing the NINJAGO movie, while some other duo will be doing the sequel. If the track record of Phil and Chris continues, it will be brilliant.

As it is, we know nothing about the NINJAGO movie yet other than the directors and the actors (well, more or less, I doubt they'll make many changes if they do). But you're also discarding the entirety of NINJAGO itself anyway, NINJAGO is filled with pop culture and other LEGO line references, if pulled off correctly it'll be a gold mine of potential.

A few thoughts:

- You're right that a Ninjago movie wouldn't attract the same audience; if anything, it would attract a far narrower one. It's a play theme that has wide appeal among young boys, but most people have no connection to it whatsoever. It would be a tall order to successfully market the film to match the mainstream success The Lego Movie has had.

- I'm not sure where you're getting the info that Lord and Miller are directing the Ninjago movie, much less who the cast members are. The film itself has barely broken beyond the rumor stage at this point, and with The Lego Movie's sequel officially announced, it's doubtful that the Ninjago movie is coming anymore (if indeed it ever was).

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Hi everyone, this is my first post :classic: I loved the movie, but I was expecting the ending, then got it spoiled :hmpf_bad: I don't know much about Ninjago, but I think that if a movie were made, it would be part of the animated series. SPOILER if these tags don't work -->

I think that Cloud Cuckoo Land was Finn's bucket of Lego, there's no limit on creativity, no rules, and no negativity. Plus I think I saw the Cloud Cuckoo set in there.

Is that how spoiler tags work? I'm sorry if that didn't work. I would like a prequel that would expand on things in the Lego world, like why Vitruvius had what he did before the movie and maybe a backstory on Lord Business. I'm also curious on why no one in Bricksburg remembers things 8 1/2 years before Taco Tuesday. It would be cool to know if Bad Cop/Good Cop always had two faces and if we can see more of the themes/realms. More SPOILERS if the tags don't work! --->

I think that the Duplo aliens would be living in peace with everyone by the time of the next movie if it's a sequel. I wonder if The Man Upstairs got the tube of Krazy Glue 8 1/2 years before what we saw of the real world because Finn might have been a baby then and started to mess with his displays.

I hope I get to know people here since no one I know wants to talk about Lego with me :grin:

I got the tags to work now :laugh:

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Quite frankly I am not really excited by this sequel news. One movie is plenty enough and to go further is likely to ruin the charm of the first.

However, there are ways a sequel could improve upon the original for me: Less licensed characters. (I like Batman but didn't completely like his inclusion as a major character.) Less butt jokes. BIONICLE screen time.

Personally I hope they don't go the DUPLO attack storyline route, I just don't see enough potential in that.

The inclusion of licensed themes means that nothing can restrict how we play Lego, even when playing crossovers between licenses and non-licenses. But indeed I'd like to see other licesnes highlighted next time when DC heroes better take some rest.

It's hard to tell whether this ending is going to affect the sequel. Maybe the sequel story won't be designed by Finn or his family so Emmet and the Duplo monsters wouldn't be featured in TLM2, or maybe the "Duplo attack" would be skipped before the sequel. Well, since there have been Unikitty and the Mixels, the plot writers can also design a Duplo monster as the new protagonist. Even better if other figures can make debut this time.

- You're right that a Ninjago movie wouldn't attract the same audience; if anything, it would attract a far narrower one. It's a play theme that has wide appeal among young boys, but most people have no connection to it whatsoever. It would be a tall order to successfully market the film to match the mainstream success The Lego Movie has had.

- I'm not sure where you're getting the info that Lord and Miller are directing the Ninjago movie, much less who the cast members are. The film itself has barely broken beyond the rumor stage at this point, and with The Lego Movie's sequel officially announced, it's doubtful that the Ninjago movie is coming anymore (if indeed it ever was).

Uh, the girls-oriented theme sounds like another unsolved issue, for whether TLM really devoted to combine all Lego materials and themes.

Generally the Ninjago movie is an extension of the original TV show, not a side story of the TLM series. Unless this movie is made to be a different canon from the TV show and previous Lego sets, and it is open to the new audience and moviegoers from TLM1. Still, suppose that TLC would like to leave some room for future crossovers or make the story more realistic, Lloyd can briefly mention the moments from TLM1 in his own movie, I guess.

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A few thoughts:

- You're right that a Ninjago movie wouldn't attract the same audience; if anything, it would attract a far narrower one. It's a play theme that has wide appeal among young boys, but most people have no connection to it whatsoever. It would be a tall order to successfully market the film to match the mainstream success The Lego Movie has had.

- I'm not sure where you're getting the info that Lord and Miller are directing the Ninjago movie, much less who the cast members are. The film itself has barely broken beyond the rumor stage at this point, and with The Lego Movie's sequel officially announced, it's doubtful that the Ninjago movie is coming anymore (if indeed it ever was).

edit: Charlie Bean is directing, my bad. Second,

Dan Lin and Roy Lee, who produced Lego Movie, are on board to produce Ninjago alongside Lego Movie directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller.

From: http://www.hollywood...ould-hit-681069

Third, do you pay no attention whatsoever to a brand? NINJAGO's fourth season of TV episodes has already aired, the main cast is more or less confirmed. The voice actors of Cole, Nya, Sensei Wu, Garmadon, Zane, Jay, Lloyd, Dareth and the Overlord will almost definitely come back, as long as said characters are in the movie. The NINJAGO movie is going ahead, do you research before arguing. According to the same article, a draft script has already been written for NINJAGO by the Hageman brothers (who made the story for the TV show), and they were also in the credits for TLM for creating the story.

Fourth and finally, claiming that NINJAGO will be a flop already is premature (well, so is claiming the TLM sequel will be, hypocrisy ftw) especially when its being made by more or less the same people who made TLM. While TLM may have had freedom for its comedy genre of being able to explore every LEGO world, the NINJAGO movie has the easy route of massive pop culture references, references to things such as Clutch Powers, Power Miners (yes, the Cragglings count) and Japanese themes (which will likely make it sell better in Asian countries) not to mention countless stories that can be told

NINJAGO has a very rich, complex and deep backstory not yet fully explained in detail. If someone told you ten years ago that in ten years time the demographic for My Little Pony would change from little girls to little girls + teenage/adult males you seriously wouldn't believe them. Just because something is far from a certain demographic means nothing, success is based on popularity and quality. NINJAGO has popularity among kids, which means the parents will come. If quality is up to par with, or above, TLM then parents will tell their friends, who will tell their friends and so on.

NINJAGO has already broken out of its own demographics anyway, an estimated 30% of fans are girls.

Don't assume the NINJAGO movie cannot compare to TLM just yet. I still haven't seen TLM, and I can see no possible way for them to pull off the "real life" aspect of the film. But I know they have, because I've read the reviews, and I trust those reviews. I suggest we move this argument to another thread.

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First of all, it was confirmed. Second,

From: http://www.hollywood...ould-hit-681069

Producers are not the same thing as directors. Producers are more or less those who fund and push the project and such. Directors are really the visionary of the film and make their own film based on a separate script, usually written by someone else.

Dan Lin and Roy Lee, who produced Lego Movie, are on board to produce Ninjago alongside Lego Movie directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller.

do you research before arguing.

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Producers are not the same thing as directors. Producers are more or less those who fund and push the project and such. Directors are really the visionary of the film and make their own film based on a separate script, usually written by someone else.

We know the Hageman brothers made the script, we know Dan Lin and Roy Lee are producing it. Also, I just noticed Charlie Bean is directing it. My bad. I'll go correct that.

I'd also like to take this moment to say that NINJAGO, when discontinued, if I recall correctly the LEGO customer support service recieved about 7,000 calls a day about it from parents for a while. Depending on interpretation of that data, I'd say a lot of parents wouldn't mind a movie coming out.

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edit: Charlie Bean is directing, my bad. Second,

From: http://www.hollywood...ould-hit-681069

Third, do you pay no attention whatsoever to a brand? NINJAGO's fourth season of TV episodes has already aired, the main cast is more or less confirmed. The voice actors of Cole, Nya, Sensei Wu, Garmadon, Zane, Jay, Lloyd, Dareth and the Overlord will almost definitely come back, as long as said characters are in the movie. The NINJAGO movie is going ahead, do you research before arguing. According to the same article, a draft script has already been written for NINJAGO by the Hageman brothers (who made the story for the TV show), and they were also in the credits for TLM for creating the story.

Fourth and finally, claiming that NINJAGO will be a flop already is premature (well, so is claiming the TLM sequel will be, hypocrisy ftw) especially when its being made by more or less the same people who made TLM. While TLM may have had freedom for its comedy genre of being able to explore every LEGO world, the NINJAGO movie has the easy route of massive pop culture references, references to things such as Clutch Powers, Power Miners (yes, the Cragglings count) and Japanese themes (which will likely make it sell better in Asian countries) not to mention countless stories that can be told

NINJAGO has a very rich, complex and deep backstory not yet fully explained in detail. If someone told you ten years ago that in ten years time the demographic for My Little Pony would change from little girls to little girls + teenage/adult males you seriously wouldn't believe them. Just because something is far from a certain demographic means nothing, success is based on popularity and quality. NINJAGO has popularity among kids, which means the parents will come. If quality is up to par with, or above, TLM then parents will tell their friends, who will tell their friends and so on.

NINJAGO has already broken out of its own demographics anyway, an estimated 30% of fans are girls.

Don't assume the NINJAGO movie cannot compare to TLM just yet. I still haven't seen TLM, and I can see no possible way for them to pull off the "real life" aspect of the film. But I know they have, because I've read the reviews, and I trust those reviews. I suggest we move this argument to another thread.

I understand that you are very passionate about your favorite theme, but you are being kind of overly defensive to people's disagreements about how a Ninjago movie would fare in comparison to a movie you haven't even seen. Take a breath. No one said it was going to flop, just that it wouldn't pull in the record-breaking numbers that the LEGO Movie is doing right this minute.

As a quick study, I last night I asked a group of five adults (not including myself) and four children if they would go see a Ninjago movie. All of this group has seen and liked the LEGO Movie, with three of the adults and three of the children having seen it twice. Of the five adults one said they would see it, two said if there was a good trailer they might consider it, and two said they'd pass. Of the four kids, one (11 year old) said they'd go see it for sure, one (8 year old) said they'd go see it if one of the adults (who didn't want to see it) went with them, and two (9 year old, 12 year old) said definitely not.

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Personally I would rather there wasn't a NinjaGo movie. I don't think it would appeal to the wider, more casual audience like The Lego Movie did, mostly just FOLs and kids who enjoyed the TV show... :def_shrug:

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Personally I would rather there wasn't a NinjaGo movie. I don't think it would appeal to the wider, more casual audience like The Lego Movie did, mostly just FOLs and kids who enjoyed the TV show... :def_shrug:

Yeah, that's basically what I think too. Since non-FOLs have probably not even heard of it. :sceptic:

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Also, I think that a sequel would be a bad idea. :sceptic: It could be good If the directors can think of a good enough storyline and pull it off well, but I'd rather it would end with just the one film, it had a perfect ending and I wouldn't want it to be ruined by potentially bad and unnecessary sequels... But it's a long way of so I guess I'll have to wait and see...

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Is the Ninjago film a theater release? I know it's early to speculate but a made for TV movie may be a strong route for it to go. I also feel the a Ninjago film would likely not reach a large audience. I hope TLG doesn't see film as it's future, seeing how much profit this current film will bring in merchandising.

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I finally got to see the film yesterday and really liked it. For the sequel, I'd love to see the Marvel characters interact with the DC ones. I know the Film was made by WB and most of the cameos were of WB properties ( Hobbit, Harry Potter and DC ), but WB did Make the LEGO Marvel game. It would just be interesting to see the JL interact with the Avengers, most likely not getting along and then getting along at the end.

It would also be cool to see an anti master builders type group of all LEGO villains, maybe Shredder, Darth Vader, Sam Sinister, the Brickster, Joker, Lex Luthor, Voldemort, Blackbeard ect

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The d00d is right. Ninjago just doesn't have the mass appeal. It could get a big boost simply from being after the Lego movie. But... I'm not sure that would be enough. And if it doesn't appeal to mass audiences as much and appeals mostly to kids (as ALL Ninjago stuff has so far) it won't have as much steam either.

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