[CUUSOO] The Infinitely Modular Classical Temple Building Set

[The_Cook]

Where is it written that a Cuusoo set can only be 400 pieces? I think you are thinking too small! Also, the demographic of "general shoppers in-store" or in the Lego.com Online Store is minimum 10,000,000 people annually. That's enough of a demographic to sell a set.

http://www.brickset.com/browse/themes/?theme=Cuusoo

They pretty much average out at the 400 mark.

This year's castle range, 90, 199, 248, 376, 996 pieces, so all of the sets bar the castle itself are below 400. It's the sweet spot, it's the $50 set.

Consolidate and focus; or 10million shoppers will be going straight to Star War or the next Disney property that's licensed rather than the Cuusoo section.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

OK first, the poll is now posted up at the top of the page, so go ahead and voice your opinion... So far, over 2,000 people have viewed this thread, so I hope we can get a nice broad cross-section of the community's opinion here, and perhaps influence the future of Lego!

Next, two new photos of prototypes, showing a few subtle additions that LDD can't render. For the mythology fans, we have Zeus and Perseus, with a re-painted version of Cerberus with black foreheads and snouts. Then, for real history fans, we have Caesar's new chariot, with the reins, and horses rearing up.

At at the same time, I will reveal the tentative plans for the revision and the expansion of all the sets. Here are the main changes:

1) The big main temple set will just be Greco-Roman, and so the chess board can feature Rome invading and conquering Greece.

2) I will probably have to limit it to either 12 or 16 minifigs in the big main set. The rooks can always be brick-built.

3) But I want to give everyone a minimum of 6 or 7 figs in each of the additional medium-sized sets.

4) The medium-sized Roman set will focus on Hannibal attacking Rome, for fans of real history.

5) The medium-sized Greek set will focus on The Odyssey, for fans of authentic mythology.

6) The Titans set will focus on The Clash of the Titans, for fans of updated mythology.

7) The Egyptian and Viking sets will focus on brand new aspects of the Civs that Lego hasn't done yet.

8) The Celts and Babylonians have never been done yet, so of course those will both be all-new additions to Lego's line-up.

And here are all the details:

1) The big main temple set (The I.M.C.T.B. Set)

Roman Minifigs: Augustus in full-length dark-purple Toga-Picta, a Roman Empress, x2 Senators, x2 Centurions,

Greek Minifigs: Pericles, a Greek Queen, x2 Hoplites, x2 Philosophers.

Features: Seven alternate temple models, with the ability to build two or three of them at the same time.

2) The Greeks (The Odyssey, The Iliad, and Aeneid)

Minifigs: Athena, Odysseus, Cyclops, x2 Sirens, Charon, (and possibly also a minifigure of Hades)

Features: The shrine of Athena, Odysseus's ship, The Trojan Horse, The Cyclops's cave and three goats and catapult, The Siren's beach, Charon's boat, Cerberus, and The Gates of The Underworld.

3) The Romans (Hannibal attacking the Roman Forum)

Minifigs: Julius Caesar in Golden Armor, a Female Aristocrat, x2 Senators, x2 Centurions, (plus Hannibal on his War-Elephant)

Features: A Carthaginian War-Elephant, Caesar's dark-red Chariot with four horses, a Ballista and other artillery, The Rostra, and The Triumphal Arch.

4) Egypt (Exploring into Africa and Allying with Nubia)

Minifigs: Ramesses, Cleopatra, x2 Hieroglyphic Scribes, x2 African Infantry Auxiliaries, (plus a Nubian King on a War-Elephant)

Features: Ramesses's golden Chariot with four horses, Cleopatra's Royal Embassy Sail-Barge, The Lighthouse of Alexandria, a harbor dock, and an African War-Elephant.

5) The Titans (The Clash of the Titans)

Minifigs: Perseus, Andromeda, x3 Stygian Witches, Medusa, (and possibly also a minifigure of Zeus)

Features: White Pegasus, Black Pegasus, the large Brick-Built Petrified Colossus, and the large Brick-Built Kraken.

6) The Celts (The Romans attack Stonehenge)

Minifigs: Boudicca, a Celtic Chieftan, x2 Druid Astrologers, x2 Celtic Swordsmen, (plus a Roman General)

Features: Stonehenge, Boudicca's dark-green Chariot, a Celtic Ballista, and a Roman War-Elephant, (and possibly more cavalry and artillery pieces)

7) The Babylonians (The Greeks attack the Hanging Gardens)

Minifigs: Nebuchadnezzar, A Babylonian Queen, x2 Mesopotamian Astrologers, x2 Bowmen, (plus a Greek General, e.g. Alexander)

Features: The Hanging Gardens of Babylon, The Ishtar Gate of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar's dark-blue chariot, a Greek Siege Tower and a Babylonian Battering-Ram, (and possibly more cavalry and artillery pieces)

8) The Vikings (The Portal of Bifrost, Yggdrasil, the Sagas, and Ragnarok)

Minifigs: Leif Eriksson, x2 Valkyries on winged-horses from Valhalla, x2 Light-Elves from Alfheim, x2 Dark-Elves from Svartalfheim.

Features: The Portal of Bifrost with a real working opening translucent energy-aperture, a Frost Giant from Jotunheim, a Fire Giant from Muspelheim.

SO THAT WILL GIVE US (A MINIMUM OF):

16 ROYALTY

16 CITIZENS

LAND:

24 INFANTRY,

8 ARCHERS,

4 DIFFERENT ARTILLERY PIECES,

4 CHARIOTS FOR CAVALRY OR RACING,

4 WAR-ELEPHANTS,

2 ELEMENTAL GIANTS,

3 TITANIC MONSTERS,

SEA:

1 WAR SHIP,

1 EMBASSY SHIP,

AIR:

2 PEGASUS-RIDERS,

2 VALKYRIES FOR AIR-CAVALRY SUPPORT!

Ah, and if you are eagle-eyed, you may have noticed that every Civ has a male and female leader, and at least two warriors, and at least two cultural figures..... So that way, every Civ has at least enough minifigs to play one side of the Chess Board, with a King, a Queen, two matching Knights, and two matching Bishops, and possibly using brick-built Rooks on the ends..... I definitely think that embracing the Chess Game aspect will be a great way to make the warfare a lot more acceptable in parents' eyes, and make it so that Lego will be ready to give the Ancient World a confident "thumbs up"!

Edited August 12, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[pogie]

Yes, you are correct and everyone else who suggests your project is too big are wrong. So silly of us... I'm not trying to flame you but I think if you really want to try and get something to 10,000 votes you need to scale it back and focus on quality and playability, not volume.

Edited July 22, 2013 by pogie

[The Real Indiana Jones]

@pogie,

Ah, no worries! When people vote to support a project on Cuusoo, they are required to enter in the dollar amount that they *would* be willing to pay for a set based on that idea, and they are prompted to type in what they like or don't like about it.

All of the medium-sized sets are composed of a variety of medium-sized things, so Lego can easily scale them up or down, by keeping the things that people like the best, and cutting the things that people like the least. So easy!

And I realize that it would be a real challenge to trim the biggest set down to below the $200 mark, but that's a decision for Lego to make. And for me, a little risk and a little challenge makes life exciting! =D

Edited July 22, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[pogie]

Best of luck with the project. It looks like you have real passion for the subjevt matter. I would so love to see a Roman Lego theme. They should put Russel Crowe on a strict exercise regime and make the gladiator prequel and do a tie in. Too gory for TLG but I can dream.

ps, next time you are doing and underwater dig in Egypt, I would pay big bucks for a cannon ball from the Battle of the Nile!

[The Real Indiana Jones]

@pogie,

Thanks! If a Roman set sells out quickly, then I am sure Lego will be totally ready to do more Romans on their own initiative, including pure "Battle-Packs" like everybody wants, with just minifigures, or with a very high ratio of minifigures to bricks, which we can not do as a Cuusoo project.

Oh, and if you want gladiators, then definitely take a look at all of the great stuff that BrickForge and BrickWarriors have created... Excellent work! =D

And wow, there is a lot going on in Egypt right about now. I think I will hold back for a while and let them get that sorted out! =)

Edited July 23, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[Faefrost]

@ MiloNelsiano,

Thanks!

@ Pogie,

It is not too big or too ambitious at all...! They would have gladly done the Modular Western Town for $180 or more, if it hadn't gotten pre-empted by the Lone Ranger licensing contract. The winners so far have been small, but they will gladly do larger ones soon enough.

Actually they had pretty much indicated that the MWT would be trimmed to just the Saloon, long before it hit 10k.

You have some great designs here, and some wonderful ideas. These are fantastic MOCs. But you should really narrow yourself down. The themes are kind of all over the place. Pick one really good set. One project. One story or myth. Polish it and present it as a product. Something that would readily be bought off the store shelves. My suggestion would be to do something more out of Mythology rather than straight up history, as that would probably have greater play value. It needs to be flashy enough to attract votes, yet reasonable enough to hit around a $50 - $60 price point in order to pass a business case review. (And before you pull out the "who says that, they can make it cost whatever they want" counter argument. The writing is pretty clearly on the wall on this one. The further afield from a proven profitable base subject and embedded audience you go, the less risk they will permit in the set at review time.

The other big reason to reduce your project to one or two refined sets is to avoid overkill. You get to where you start competing with yourself. Your project is no longer distinct. It does not stand out on CuuSoo because there are 7 or 8 that at a glance look just like it. Except they are all yours. Show me something distinct and unique that no one else is offering. Not some multi project loosely tied together theme with some sort of Modular heading.

[Blakstone]

I agree with Faefrost and Pogie. I hinted at that when I said I support one of your CUUSOO projects. I did not click support on any of the others. There was too many. I just went with the one that appealed to me the most. You can tell this is true across the board as your different projects have different levels of support.

LEGO is not going to introduce a line of products under CUUSOO, but when they introduce one that is highly successful, such as Minecraft, they are willing to make more sets later.

There appears to be a demand for these ancient cultures with AFOLs at least. They include some in the CMF line. We all want one project to show that fans will support actual sets of them. I truly hope your project is a success and LEGO follows up with more similar sets.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

Actually they had pretty much indicated that the MWT would be trimmed to just the Saloon, long before it hit 10k.

Hmm? Yes, exactly, and just the Saloon building by itself would be $150-$200, just like any of the other Modular Buildings that size. My biggest is $250-$300.

And that is also exactly the reason why I put each of my different sets onto a different voting page. I follow the rules.

Plus I don't really expect people to vote for ALL of them, or to buy ALL of them. There have only been a few themes where I've ever bought ALL of the sets!!

Edited July 25, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[pogie]

Why did you post this looking for feedback if you ignore, dismiss, or rebuke everyone trying to give you helpful critiques? You are diluting your project with way too much stuff. It's all over the map with varying quality. Just call them MOCS and be done with it. Done here as the OP is only seeking pats on the back rather than honest feedback and suggestions.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

@pogie, et al,

No, not at all... In fact I am kinda bummed that I am not getting any more specific criticisms, besides people just saying "It is too much!" and "Think smaller!"

People may say they want an Ancient or Roman theme, but then with the very next breath, they say that they don't want to pay any more than $50 for it!

And you can clearly see that a lot of the changes I have made are specifically responding to the first well-thought criticisms that The_Cook gave me.

Also, someone please explain to me more clearly what the real benefit of this "$50 Sweet Spot" is... It that in terms of what Lego wants to do? Or in terms of what earns them the most profit? Or simply what gets you the most number of minifigs for the cheapest possible price? You may say you want a real Roman theme, but it seems like you just want a cheap battle-pack. The reason that they have specifically disallowed battle-packs on Cuusoo is that If they create a cheap Romans battle-pack, then it kills the potential demand for a theme, and it diminishes the future demand for the historical figs in the CMF line, which are always one of the most popular! It seems obvious that the real "sweet spot" for Lego is to create fully-fledged themes, and that is the reason why 90% of the things they create are in the context of fully-developed themes! In the end, if $50 really was a sweet spot in Lego's eyes, then they would never create any sets less than $30 or more than $70, but they most obviously do exactly that, with every single thing that they do!

So what is the rationale for your assertions?

Edited July 25, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[The_Cook]

In the history forums you'll find a lot of army builders who typically just want cheap minifigs in bulk. Your assertions about battlepacks are probably quite correct; although the reason the initial "Dark Side Bucket" of storm-troopers was disallowed was because the particular license that they hold with Lucasfilms doesn't allow them to issue figures on their own.

With CUUSOO you have one set. You're not designing a theme you're designing a set. The $50 sweet spot is because it gives the designer a decent number of bricks to work, with between 400 and 500 bricks, whilst being something that an average person walking into a toystore, who isn't a xFOL, would consider buying.

Which brings us back to the original set of comments: condense, consolidate. Pick one myth or legend and build one solid set around that.

If that set sells then a Minecraft situation may develop and a range may spring from it but you have to get that one set out there first before you can think of extending it to a theme.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

Hi again, The_Cook, and thanks again for your advice. You can see that I followed it closely...

And wow, an excellent response... I will quote it in full, and reply point-by-point, to show how much I enjoy a good debate!

In the history forums you'll find a lot of army builders who typically just want cheap minifigs in bulk. Your assertions about battlepacks are probably quite correct; although the reason the initial "Dark Side Bucket" of storm-troopers was disallowed was because the particular license that they hold with Lucasfilms doesn't allow them to issue figures on their own.

Oh, I wasn't even thinking about the Dark Bucket. That wasn't even a battle pack at all, that was just 100 identical figs in a bucket with no bricks! They have also expressed reluctance to do CMF-style packets with licensed figs like superheroes, or a lot of other ideas which have an unusually high ratio of figs-to-bricks. That is the main reason I am reducing the $300 set to about 12 or 16 figs, not 24.

With CUUSOO you have one set. You're not designing a theme you're designing a set. The $50 sweet spot is because it gives the designer a decent number of bricks to work, with between 400 and 500 bricks, whilst being something that an average person walking into a toystore, who isn't a xFOL, would consider buying.

Over 90% of Lego's demographic is kids, and 90% are repeat buyers, and 90% get the glossy catalog. Nowadays, they only need to mow the lawn four times to get $80 or $100 saved up, not to mention Christmas, Yay! =D Also, for now, Cuusoo sets won't be on store shelves, although maybe in the near future... For now, they are offered online, and featured in the glossy catalog that everyone gets monthly.

Which brings us back to the original set of comments: condense, consolidate. Pick one myth or legend and build one solid set around that.

If that set sells then a Minecraft situation may develop and a range may spring from it but you have to get that one set out there first before you can think of extending it to a theme.

Ah, and that is *EXACTLY* the mistake that most creators have made so far... They have one set reach 10,000, and then ***AFTERWARDS*** they or some other competitors try to follow it up with a sequel or a series, but by that time, they are "too late to the party", and Lego has already made plans to pre-empt them. And yes, MineCraft is the perfect example here. I am trying to get ahead of Lego's planning curve.

Edited July 25, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[Faefrost]

Ah, and that is *EXACTLY* the mistake that most creators have made so far... They have one set reach 10,000, and then ***AFTERWARDS*** they or some other competitors try to follow it up with a sequel or a series, but by that time, they are "too late to the party", and Lego has already made plans to pre-empt them. And yes, MineCraft is the perfect example here. I am trying to get ahead of Lego's planning curve.

Really? They need to "get out ahead of Lego's planning curve by putting out a dozen projects"? Okaaaay? If you think it will work by all means run with it.

If I might offer one piece of advise regarding presentation, since you wish to make a concerted push on multiple projects. Break up the color pallets from project to project. Right now most of your sets share a fairly common color pallet. And then further your presentation backdrops, graphics text is of a similar color and design motif. On CuuSoo all you really have to make your project stand out is that single first picture. At a reduced size. If that image is not clean unique and grabbing people will not click on the project to see what lies within. And if they don't click, they don't vote. This is especially true for projects such as your that do not have a highly motivated embedded niche fan base behind them. Much of that decision to click on the image comes from color presentation.

As an example look at the grip of images you posted in the first post of this thread. There is some beautiful work in there. But if you scale them down to CuuSoo thumbnails the typical user will not see the difference from one to the other. All they see is fairly busy images with the same pallet and presentation. That doesn't suck them in to click on it. They are already working at a slight disadvantage just from being LDD or digital images. Which tend to feel flat and look alike no matter how you tweak them. The two photographs above of the Pegasus and Chariot sets actually are much more compelling. The project stands out in them, and there is enough white space to let it show up well in a reduced thumbnail.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

Ah, that is good advice, thanks! I will do more work on the digital rendering and the graphics after I finish updating the sets.

And I will probably experiment with "A versus B testing" using some of the images I have already to see if it helps, Thanks! =)

Perhaps I will put the artwork featuring the leaders' portraits and the shield designs front and center, like I did for Babylon...

Edited July 26, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[The Real Indiana Jones]

Ah, and to prove that I am heeding people's advice to consolidate and make cuts, I just actually *DELETED* two of my pages, the one on "More Minifigs" and the one on "More Monsters"... But that is fine, because they were not really projects unto themselves, they were just auxiliary pages meant to showcase more ideas and get feedback. Anyway, all of the best ideas there will be incorporated into the main sets, so they will be mostly redundant soon... At first, I thought that they would help to bring in viewers, but looking at the stats, I'd say that you guys were right, they were just siphoning away attention and votes from the main sets.

I will memorialize them here, partly because it just makes more sense to post them on here EuroBricks, and not as Cuusoo pages...!

The Gods of Olympus: Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Athena, Artemis, Aphrodite, Apollo, and Hephaestus. (Ares not shown)

Greek Mythology: White Pegasus, Perseus, Andromeda, Medusa, Siren, Cyclops, Minotaur, and Black Pegasus.

Roman Era History: Legionary, Centurion, Standard-Bearer, Caesar in Armor, Gladiator, Cleopatra, an Amazon, and Boudicca.

Global Warriors: Native America, Aztec or Maya, a Zulu from Africa, Egypt, Arabia, India, China, and Japan.

Alternate concept art for the Kraken, from Clash of the Titans 2010, and from Tomb Raider Underworld.

Alternate concept art for a Hydra, from John Singer Sargent, and Tiamat from Dungeons and Dragons.

Concept art for a Chimera, from the video game Dragon's Dogma.

Concept art for Cerberus, "Fluffy" from Harry Potter.

Again, all of the best ideas here will be incorporated into the main sets, so feel free to comment if these strike your fancy! =)

Edited July 26, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[Hrw-Amen]

OK, I voted for your Stone Henge set being British, but really I would like some serious historical sets of any sort. (Would love some Egyptian ones.) Like others have said they need some playability for kids to be interested. Have you thought about creating actual archaeological sets, I did see on your Cuusoo that you are an archaeologist?

Maybe similar to Adventurers but not having them ransacking things, more methodical and respectful. It would make for great educational sets, a parent/Teacher could build a scene and tell a story from the area/era as the child (Archaeologist Mini-Figure.) dug bits up (Removed blocks.) to reveal the artefact / building / scene etc, underneath.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

@Hrw-Amen,

Thanks! Since Lego has done so many nice Egyptian sets in the past, I am planning on focusing specifically on things that they have never officially done yet. So, for the Egyptian set, I am going to include Ramesses's golden chariot with four horses, Cleopatra's royal embassy sail-barge, The Lighthouse of Alexandria, a harbor dock, two Hieroglyphic Scribes, two African Infantry, and an African King on a war-elephant. So the story will be generally based on Queen Hatshepsut's famous exploration to the Land of Punt in Africa. Cleopatra will be travelling up the Nile to Lake Victoria, and trying to forge an alliance with the African King, and to get the African Infantry to join her forces to the north. I hope that works for you in terms of "historical realism with a Legoland twist"! Let me know what you think.

In fact, I am pretty sure that all of the Egyptian sets Lego has ever done so far have all been "Archaeologists-versus-Mummies" fantasy themed, so I think this would actually be the first straight-forward historical Egyptian Lego set... Is that right? I guess you would know!

And yes, if some of the education-themed ideas that passed recently get made into sets, then I will definitely think of doing a real archaeology set... Or people can just use one of their existing archaeologists to excavate the buildings and artifacts I am designing here!

A good idea! =)

So do you build Egyptian scenes, and do you have a gallery of MOCs? Love to see!

Edited July 29, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[The Real Indiana Jones]

OK, yesterday I did some quick ***ROUGH AND EXPERIMENTAL*** new designs for the artwork. Naturally, I will eventually paste the new models over the words on the left and right side of each pic as I complete them. Then I will do more final versions using POV-Ray and PhotoShop later, but for now, this shows how I am thinking of presenting them...

The color issue was easy to solve, since each Civ has distinct signature team colors. I will re-render the models with bold dynamic lighting, add a thick ink-line around each one, and then fade the backgrounds a bit so the models stand out a bit more. So in the end, it will look a lot like that graphic style for the GTA games teaser artwork.

Personally, I always click on thumbnails where you can definitely get the sense of what it is from the title and thumbnail, but you have to click to see exactly what it is, and to see more detail.

So let me know if this looks good or bad for starters... =)

Thanks to everyone!

Edited July 29, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[The Real Indiana Jones]

Yay, I'm happy to see I have over 3120 views on this thread so far, so I'll post some more... I am guessing that everyone is busy commenting on the Delorean and the new sets.

And I admit, at first I wanted to shy away from warfare, but looking at the prototype for the battering ram, isn't that totes adorbz?! =D It takes me right back to my Grey-Castle-Days!

Also note that it has eight extra Roman shields on top. That is partly for accuracy, and also so you can take any eight generic ancient minifigures you have and turn them into Roman Auxiliaries!

Feel free to comment and criticize anything I've done here... I appreciate when people help me find an opportunity to improve things!

Catapults, ballistas, siege tower, war-elephants, fortifications, etc, etc, coming soon...

therealindy

Edited August 1, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[Faefrost]

I would steer clear of Tiamat or anything that can be linked to Dungeons and Dragons for the time being. Kree-O just showed off their new D&D license recently.

[The Real Indiana Jones]

I would steer clear of Tiamat or anything that can be linked to Dungeons and Dragons for the time being. Kree-O just showed off their new D&D license recently.

Yes, excellent advice. Thanks for the heads-up! I did think of that kinda later on, because I know that others have asked for D&D licensed sets.

Edited August 1, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[The Real Indiana Jones]

I posted a pic of the prototype for my battering-ram here earlier today above, and as soon as I mentioned the Classic King's Castle, I totally remembered how much I loved shooting the catapult...

So I made my catapult shoot Bionicle-spheres, and so it should be safe fun for all ages. Or if those bounce around too much, you can shoot anything, really... You can even launch plague-victims over the enemy's walls, if you are a fan of serious historical realism, Bwahaha! >=D>

You fire it exactly like the Classic Castle catapults. Or you could also easily rig it up with a rubber-band if you like. The one key design improvement here is that the launching-arm actually makes it's impact at the solid front-bottom part, and not against the top crossbar, so that way it will hold solidly together even under vigorous play.

Once again, feel free to comment and criticize anything I've done here... I appreciate it when people help me find an opportunity to improve things!

Up next... Ballistas, siege tower, war-elephants, fortifications, etc, etc, coming soon...

therealindy

Edited August 1, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones

[lego24]

These are very magnificent models and i fully support you but maybe they are quite ambitous and complicated for Cussoo. But honestly i would definately vote!

[The Real Indiana Jones]

Hey, thanks! Although there really isn't *too* much about them that is so complex, except for a few certain sections, like the hemispherical domes, the Kraken's hexagonal mouth, the circularity of Stonehenge, and of course the gearing and wings that form the center of the Portal of Bifrost... I think that kids can totally do it, with maybe a little helping hand from Mom and Dad on the harder sections... I think parents will be glad to help build a little bit!

Everything else about them is a fairly basic rectilinear Lego build! =D

Hmm, plus I just got the new Cuusoo Back to the Future Delorean set, and it uses a *lot* of complex and precarious techniques!

Oh, and I always make sure to use "100% Lego-Legal" connections. That is the main thing they are talking about when they say "your models can too complex for Cuusoo"... It means that a lot of AFOLs make models that are strictly "for display only" that use extremely fragile or unstable building techniques, or connections that stress the plastic parts, or connections that will not stand up to active play with real kids testing them.

But I build it all to be sturdy. In fact, the main dome can support over 5 pounds of weight (over 2.25 kilograms)!

Thanks for supporting... There is lots and lots more coming! =D

Edited August 1, 2013 by The Real Indiana Jones