CMP Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Was it ever decided whether or not Summoning Lamps would be permanent or consumable? That also goes for Mediq (Namyrra's Jade Lamp of Summoning). The regular Jinn can only be summoned three times, dunno about Mediq. Quote
Sandy Posted September 22, 2013 Author Posted September 22, 2013 Can you say something on the tripleshot thing, Sandy? If there is more than one enemy in the battle, Triple Shot is divided between the target and the two enemies listed after it. If the list ends before the shots end, then the shots will be dealt from the beginning of the list of enemies. Maybe I should rephrase the skill to make it clearer... And I don't care how it was done in Quest#2, that's how it's done now. The regular Jinn can only be summoned three times, dunno about Mediq. If I remember correctly, Mediq was voted to be an exception to that. I could be wrong, though. The FAQ has been updated: Q: How does the ranger's Triple Shot work when the target is listed last on the enemy order? What about when there's only two enemies? A: The three shots are always divided between the enemies if there's more than one of them. If the target is listed last or second to last on the list of enemies, then the remaining shots will be dealt to the enemies at the beginning of the list. If there's only two enemies, the target will get hit by two shots and the other enemy with one. Q: Can I use Bright Polish on any artefact? A: No, the Bright Polish can only be used on shields and any artefacts that already give SP. Quote
Flipz Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, Mediq was voted as permanent, because his effect is not overly-strong, and because he has a name. Quote
Scorpiox Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 I believe that the rules for Jiins was changed some time after Quest #53 to a three-use mechanism... just a little bit after I used my (at the time) one-go lamp and had it fade to oblivion. Quote
Pandora Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Go ahead and use it on the Robe, Pandora, if that's what I've first said. Thanks Sandy. Quote
CMP Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 How does dual strike work on an AoE attack, if the intent was to deal double damage to a single target? Does it go through, or have no effect, since it wouldn't if it was used to attack two targets? And max health reduced as a result of Cursed is not returned when it's cured, right? Quote
Brickdoctor Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 And max health reduced as a result of Cursed is not returned when it's cured, right? Wait, what? I'm pretty sure Cursed doesn't result in permanent loss of HP. That would be overpowered. I don't think any current HP lost is returned along with the max HP, though. Quote
JimBee Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 How does dual strike work on an AoE attack, if the intent was to deal double damage to a single target? Does it go through, or have no effect, since it wouldn't if it was used to attack two targets? And max health reduced as a result of Cursed is not returned when it's cured, right? The effect of any AoE ignores Dual Strike, in the case of Thalion, he would deal normal (single) damage to all enemies, stun them, and gain gold where applicable. To think about it in another way, since Magnetic Mojo is a spell, it isn't affected by weapon effects. Max health is restored at the end of a battle. A Remedy will stop the target from losing more max health, but it will not restore it in the middle of battle. Quote
CMP Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Wait, what? I'm pretty sure Cursed doesn't result in permanent loss of HP. That would be overpowered. I don't think any current HP lost is returned along with the max HP, though. I'm not saying permanently, I'm saying if Cursed is remedied in the middle of battle, is the max health lost returned immediately or not? The effect of any AoE ignores Dual Strike, in the case of Thalion, he would deal normal (single) damage to all enemies, stun them, and gain gold where applicable. To think about it in another way, since Magnetic Mojo is a spell, it isn't affected by weapon effects. I'm talking about Quest 69, not everything is about you guys. Edited September 30, 2013 by CallMePie Quote
JimBee Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 I'm not saying permanently, I'm saying if Cursed is remedied in the middle of battle, is the max health lost returned immediately or not? Again, I'd say no. Doc? I'm talking about Quest 69, not everything is about you guys. Bah. In the case where AoE is rolled for, say, a Raider wielding a Dual Strike weapon, damage is calculated normally with just the WP of the weapon, so WPx3 +level= X dmg to all enemies once. Quote
CMP Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Bah. In the case where AoE is rolled for, say, a Raider wielding a Dual Strike weapon, damage is calculated normally with just the WP of the weapon, so WPx3 +level= X dmg to all enemies once. That's what I thought, just making sure. Quote
Flipz Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Cursed has always been rolled as the max health is restored after the Remedy is taken. It'd be way too overpowered otherwise. Quote
Pyrovisionary Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Also on AOE and dual strike. My interperetation of the rules is that you deal 2 hits so, if you made 2 hits with an AOE attack wouldn't that be double the AOE attack? Edited September 30, 2013 by Pyrovisionary Quote
CMP Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Cursed has always been rolled as the max health is restored after the Remedy is taken. Where? The reason I'm asking is because I can't recall Cursed being inflicted all too often to heroes. Edited September 30, 2013 by CallMePie Quote
Scubacarrot Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Also on AOE and dual strike. My interperetation of the rules is that you deal 2 hits so, if you made 2 hits with an AOE attack wouldn't that be double the AOE attack? No because with a dual strike you hit two enemies, not do two hits. Or something. I don't know, I still think the fact you can hit an enemy twice with a dual strike is dubious, but I'm not questioning how it works. Quote
CMP Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Also on AOE and dual strike. My interperetation of the rules is that you deal 2 hits so, if you made 2 hits with an AOE attack wouldn't that be double the AOE attack? I don't think that's how it's works. That would be super overpowered, in any case. Quote
Pyrovisionary Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) No because with a dual strike you hit two enemies, not do two hits. Or something. I don't know, I still think the fact you can hit an enemy twice with a dual strike is dubious, but I'm not questioning how it works. Fyi the rules say: two hits to one enemy upon a successful roll. I'm not suggesting we actually do what I previously stated though. I don't think that's how it's works. That would be super overpowered, in any case. I know. Edited September 30, 2013 by Pyrovisionary Quote
Flipz Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Where? The reason I'm asking is because I can't recall Cursed being inflicted all too often to heroes. 38 (boss fight) and 48 (repeatedly) are the two big ones I can recall. Quote
Myrddyn Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 How do other effect weapons work on AOE? Would a poisoned weapon poison all enemies? I'd have thought Dual-Strike weapons would deal 1x damage to all enemies except the targeted one, which it'd do 2x damage to. Quote
Capt.JohnPaul Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 How do other effect weapons work on AOE? Would a poisoned weapon poison all enemies? I'd have thought Dual-Strike weapons would deal 1x damage to all enemies except the targeted one, which it'd do 2x damage to. Yes, weapon effects do get all the enemies in AOE... I believe. Quote
CMP Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 How do other effect weapons work on AOE? Would a poisoned weapon poison all enemies? Yeah. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Although you have to remember that in some cases of AoE, where the AoE attack is a spell, then the spell doesn't inherit the effects of the weapon through which it was cast. (e.g., Ravage with a Poisoned weapon would Poison all enemies; Magic Vortex would not.) Quote
Jebediahs Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Although you have to remember that in some cases of AoE, where the AoE attack is a spell, then the spell doesn't inherit the effects of the weapon through which it was cast. (e.g., Ravage with a Poisoned weapon would Poison all enemies; Magic Vortex would not.) Unless you have De'kra's kanohi mask. Where is Tanma btw?? Quote
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