Scubacarrot Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I want to restate what I (or better said, Tony) noticed. Tristan entrusted his vote to Kenneth yesterday, yet today he is about 60% sure he is scum... What? This doesn't make any sense. It's a scum slip-up, it has to be! Tristan himself came by at least once and has ignored it and went away without giving an explanation. There is no explanation. He is running to his scum buddies asking what to do and hoping people will brush over it. PLEASE DON'T. PLEASE think about it.
TheBoyWonder Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Thats a good point, I only just noticed that. It sounds very odd, but I want to hear what he says first. I want to hear his reasoning.
Capt. Redblade Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I want to restate what I (or better said, Tony) noticed. Tristan entrusted his vote to Kenneth yesterday, yet today he is about 60% sure he is scum... What? This doesn't make any sense. It's a scum slip-up, it has to be! Tristan himself came by at least once and has ignored it and went away without giving an explanation. There is no explanation. He is running to his scum buddies asking what to do and hoping people will brush over it. PLEASE DON'T. PLEASE think about it. This is actually a very good point. Perhaps with the proper motivation Tristan will speak. Unvote: Boris Wheeler (TheBoyWonder) Vote: Tristan Kingsley (TrumpetKing)
Tamamono Posted July 7, 2013 Author Posted July 7, 2013 Vote Count Michael Thompson (Mencot) - 4 (Trumpetking, Adam, CallMePie, Dannylonglegs) Damien Long (Dannylonglegs) - 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty) Abigail Nelson (Adam) - 2 (Peanuts, fhomess) Tristan Kingsley (Trumpetking) - 2 (Scubacarrot, Capt. Redblade) Boris Wheeler (TheBoyWonder) - 1 (Kadabra) Carletta Maria Puerta (CallMePie) - 1 (TinyPiesRUs) 24 hours remain until Sunset.
Peanuts Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Abigail has contacted me privately, and from what she said, I'm getting a townread on her. I guess my list was flawed (as is well possible) but at least I managed to get a read on her and that's also worth something. For now, I'll unvote: Abigail nelson (Adam) I'm not sure who'll get my final vote for the day, but I'm not convinced by the case against Michael. My next suspect would be Boris, but Sheridan has raised good points about Tristan as well. I think I'll vote for one of them, once finally Tristan speaks up.
mostlytechnic Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Abigail has contacted me privately, and from what she said, I'm getting a townread on her. I guess my list was flawed (as is well possible) but at least I managed to get a read on her and that's also worth something. For now, I'll Anything you can share to help the rest of us judge her? Abigail, anything you'd like to say in your defense to the whole town? As for me, I'm currently leaning towards either Boris or Tristan as well, based on what either has to say before the end of the day. You know, screw that. I'm going to go ahead and (at least for now) say Vote: Boris Wheeler (TheBoyWonder) since he is still the scummiest in my personal rating list. And beyond that, I think I know what Tristan is going to say and I'm curious to see if I'm right...
Piratedave84 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I want to restate what I (or better said, Tony) noticed. Tristan entrusted his vote to Kenneth yesterday, yet today he is about 60% sure he is scum... What? This doesn't make any sense. It's a scum slip-up, it has to be! Tristan himself came by at least once and has ignored it and went away without giving an explanation. There is no explanation. He is running to his scum buddies asking what to do and hoping people will brush over it. PLEASE DON'T. PLEASE think about it. Interesting point; I would like to believe that Tristan has valid reason for this change of heart as I mostly read him as town both here and in private. Abigail has contacted me privately, and from what she said, I'm getting a townread on her. I guess my list was flawed (as is well possible) but at least I managed to get a read on her and that's also worth something. For now, I'll unvote: Abigail nelson (Adam) I'm not sure who'll get my final vote for the day, but I'm not convinced by the case against Michael. My next suspect would be Boris, but Sheridan has raised good points about Tristan as well. I think I'll vote for one of them, once finally Tristan speaks up. Looks like buddying up to me; Abigail did not answer you in public but rather in private; how odd!
Adam Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Looks like buddying up to me; Abigail did not answer you in public but rather in private; how odd! You are mistaken. I was on my glitchy phone all day and couldn't respond to the main topic, forcing me to resort to PM. I sent messages to Perry (Peanuts), Kenneth (fhomess), and Prudence (PJBob) in order to address their concerns. Now that I have regained the use of my computer, I'm able to address the town at large; I apologize for the mix-up. I'll copy and paste the messages I sent, with minor edits to make them more readable. I should warn you in advance, this is long: it's going to be a bitch to read, and there's a fair amount of overlap between responses. My message to Kenneth (fhomess) is as follows... *snip* Hey fhomess,First of all, I'm sorry I have to respond to you via PM. I'm on my phone and for some reason it hates me and won't let me reply to the main topic. It also won't let me quote posts, so I apologize in advance for that. I'll post all of my responses in the main thread when I get home (Im also messaging Peanuts and PJBob), but for now I wanted to at least address your concerns directly to you. In the thread you make the point that I speculated about the vig at the start of Day Two, which Peanuts has since echoed, and wonder if I had extra information that others did not. I think this is being taken a little out of context: at the start of the day I strongly believed that Esther (Esurient) was the vig, based off the facts 1) that she had softclaimed the day before and 2) that her top suspect, Drake (Darkdragon) was the victim of the night kill. I actually got quite pigeonholed in this idea, which I'm very embarrassed about since the theory turned out to be dead wrong. However, I had no inside information. As for your point about Connie (Clanure) and my vote for her, yes, I did vote for her to get her talking. She hadn't spoken at all, I suspected her, and I was trying to hold her feet to the fire. Unfortunately I was MIA after that due to a personal matter, and didn't get the chance to post any other thoughts. To be quite honest I probably would have kept my vote on Connie (Clanure), or perhaps I might have switched my vote to Michael (Mencot). Obviously we now know that she was loyal, but yesterday (in game time) those two were my top suspects. Finally, you say that I demanded more from Peanuts instead of arguing about my helpfulness. Hell yeah I demanded more from him! He accused me quite specifically and then voted for me (twice, I might add), a without providing any explanation whatsoever. I was confused, annoyed, and a little suspicious, and I wanted to know more: how was I to respond to his vote if he had no reasoning supporting it, no claims against me? If you would like me to justify my helpfulness, then I'll say that I've been trying my very best to make informed guesses and speculation (both about game setup and player actions), have been logical and direct, have avoided fluff in my posts, and have been scum hunting a the while. My thumbs are killing me, but if you have any further concerns or questions please message my and I will get back to you ASAP. Hopefully my phone will let me respond/quote in the main thread at some point, but at the very least ill copy and paste this stuff once I get home tonight. Thanks, and have a good one, Adam Next is my message to Prudence (Purpearljellyblob), which I have spliced into her original post so that you have context... Hey there, First of all, I'm sorry that I have to send you this via PM. I'm on my phone today, and since my phone is evil and hates me it won't allow me to reply to the main topic. It also won't let me quote posts, so I apologize in advance for that. I'll post in the main thread tonight when I get home, but for now I wanted to at least message you in order to address your concerns. This is going to be a bit difficult to write without quoting your post, but here goes: your primary concerns are 1) that I appear to be accusing Peanuts and 2) that I voted for Mencot. I re-read the thread again and found these posts rather off. Shortly after Perry listed his long list of suspects, Abigail responded to Perry with the following post(s): The first part seemed like a reasonable response asking for clarification, but the second part seemed rather off. Abigail, I would like to know why did you subtly suggest that Perry is scum without hearing his clarification first? The first item you quoted and bolded saw me discussing how scum will accuse each other. I think you have misinterpreted me here; in no way am I accusing Peanuts, I'm simply questioning and critiquing his process of making those lists (where he explicitly states that one of the criteria for being scum teammates is not accusing each other). I wasn't trying to asset that Peanuts is scum, I was trying to point out a flaw in his theory. Same question to you Abigail, why did you subtly suggest that Perry is scum without hearing his clarification? First part [unbolded] - asking for clarification Second part [bolded] - subtly suggest Perry is scum? Your second bolded thing is about me talking about the investigator. Again, this was not intended as am accusation against Peanuts, it was meant as a cautioning and an attempt to explore all possible options. I wanted corroboration for his claim, since I'm never ready to accept something like that from someone when they expect me to just take their word for it. And Abigail, you have done the same thing 3 times after being called out. Care to justify why did you do that? Next you quote me calling Peanuts's behavior odd. This is a logical observation and I stand by it. He accused me, along with two other people, very specifically, and then he voted for me. He did all of this without providing explanation or argument. It was weird, out of character, and yes, a suspicious. This brings me to the next topic... I believe Perry hasn't come by to answer your questions yet, so why the rush to vote for Michael? If you think Perry is rather weird, shouldn't you wait till you have heard from Perry, happy with his justification, before you cast your eyes elsewhere? You criticize me voting for Mencot before hearing Peanuts respond to my questions. To this I say that I can walk and chew gum at the same time. It's possible for me to ask one person for clarification while maintaining suspicions for another person. If we all spent each post talking to only one person and not posting or acting until that was addressed, the game would move very slowly and we would never catch any scum. Furthermore, you act as if I should want to vote for Peanuts instead of Mencot. Mencot is my top suspicion, followed by Boris, for the reasons that I have said and others have said. While I find Peanuts's accusations without explanation suspicious, I get a town read from him. Hell, I called him the most logical and helpful person this game and I maintain that belief. Again, I noticed your two part post. First part [unbolded] - reasonable comment (not a fan of policy lynching) Second part [bolded] - subtly suggesting people to metagame you so as to justify your inactivity? Also, you say something about me wanting meta gaming, but I'm not really sure what you're saying. Frankly anything that has the word "meta" in it makes my head hurt. :P That thing about Tree Stumps was an attempt at humor. I guess I will be waiting for you to come back with some comments on Clay. Good point and I agree with you on the possibilities. My thumbs hurt from typing so much on this crap phone, but if you have any other concerns please message me and I will get back to you ASAP. Again, I'll post all of this stuff in thread when I get home, but I wanted to address your questions. Have a good one, Adam Finally, here is my message to Perry (Peanuts)... Hey Peanuts,First off, I'm sorry I have to respond to you via PM. I'm on my phone, and because my phone is a cruel bastard it glitches whenever I try to reply to the main topic. However, I wanted to at least address your concerns/arguments to you directly. I'll post in the main thread when I get home tonight and regain the use of my computer. Thanks for responding to my question and providing some reasoning. Your main concerns are 1) that I'm unhelpful and 2) that I "speculated the vig". I'm sorry that you think I'm unhelpful. As you've noted I've provided some speculation about game set up. I've tried to remain logical, avoid fluff in my posts, and provide helpful insight about both the game and other players. A couple people have said in thread that I'm quiet but have made effective posts, and I'd like to think that this is true (though I've been working to post more, especially after Mafia mafia). As for the note about vig speculation, I think you're taking that a bit out of context. First of all you say that I thought Darkdragon was a scum kill, which isn't true. I said that NORMALLY he wouldn't be a good vig kill. However, at the start of Day Two I strongly believed that Esurient was the vig, based off of her soft claiming and the fact that Darkdragon was her top target. I got embarrassingly pigeonholed in this idea and it turned out to be dead wrong, but I didn't believe Darkdragon was a scum kill that day. The revelation of the poisoner has changed that. Honestly, this accusation and vote that you have placed against me comes a little out of left field. You didn't make any of these claims during the first three days. Imagine how befuddled I was when I saw that you had voted for me but didn't provide any explanation. The fact that you made a variety of sudden, unprecedented, and completely unsupported accusations put me off and made me a little suspicious. That said, I stand by my thought that you've been the most helpful and logical person this game. Out of everyone, I have the biggest town read on you. I think your theory about the scum teams is weak, has a lot of holes in it, and frankly I know it's wrong because my name is on each list, but I think you've been doing a solid job in scum hunting. That's my ten cents - my two cents is free. I'm getting arthritis typing on this damn phone, but if you have any other questions, etc. please send em over and I'll get back to you ASAP. I'll post my responses in thread when I get to my computer tonight. Thanks, and have a good one, Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As I said in each message, if anybody has any further questions, I will be happy to answer them. For now my suspicions lie with Michael (Mencot), though lately my conviction has been wavering out of fear of a repeat of Esther (Esurient). Troy (TinyPiesRUs) and Sheridan (Scubacarrot) have made an excellent point against Tristan (TrumpetKing), which has catapulted him into my suspicions. I may be a bit biased on this next point, but he also said that he'd be fine lynching me and that he agreed with the arguments against me... before anyone had made any arguments, which to me reads like someone prepping for a potential bandwagon. Kenneth: Seems to do more scum-hunting than most of us. I'm just not sire what to think of him before his voice changed. I'd say 60/40 scum. *snip* Abigail: I can see some of the points against her, and I'd be OK with a lynch towards her, but at the same time, I'm not fully convinced she's scum. From what I can see now, Tristan (TrumpetKing) is preparing a response, so I'll be interested to see what he says.
TrumpetKing Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Sheridan- How is that a scum slip-up?! I'm not sure I understand it. I trusted Kenneth with my vote because at the time, he seemed to be doing some good scum-hunting. However, I've lost that trust. Now, you want to know why I think fhomess is scum? I don't! I was just following your advice in telling me not to reveal my poisoner suspicion. Evidence points to Kenneth being the poisoner. He was awfully quiet at the beginning, and we had no kills. What happens when he becomes verbal? We see poisoner kills. However, I wouldn't be revealing this if I thought he was the vig. So why am I revealing this right now? Because I think he's the serial killer. Now, he could just as well be the vig, but I don't think so. Kenneth seems to be far more quiet than I'd hope for our vigilante to be. He's said one thing today. I hope we don't have a vig who's going to act like that.
mostlytechnic Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 And yep, that's what I expected Tristan to explain... At the beginning of today both he and PAtrick hinted at this idea about Kenneth without being too explicit, but I think anyone with a couple brain cells available could put their hints together. Given this explanation (which he'd also been talking to me about in PM) I understand his switch on the sheriff... when we got the new one he sure came out swinging and scum hunting, but then a couple people got dead and he's been strangely quiet. That's made me flip on him too. Even just earlier today I said I thought he was "slightly town" but now I'm not sure sure at all about that.
Tamamono Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) Vote Count Michael Thompson (Mencot) - 4 (Trumpetking, Adam, CallMePie, Dannylonglegs) Abigail Nelson (Adam) - 4 (fhomess, penalty, penalty, penalty) (Rule #5!!!) Damien Long (Dannylonglegs) - 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty) Tristan Kingsley (Trumpetking) - 2 (Scubacarrot, Capt. Redblade) Boris Wheeler (TheBoyWonder) - 2 (Kadabra, mostlytechnic) Carletta Maria Puerta (CallMePie) - 1 (TinyPiesRUs) No Vote - 6 (PirateDave84, TheBoyWonder, LegoDad, Purpearljellyblob, Mencot, Peanuts) 21 hours remain until Sunset. Votes up, kids! Edited July 8, 2013 by Tamamono
MagPiesRUs Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 The Fabulous Carletta Emilia Benita Anne-Marie Rosita Priscilla Lucia Annabelle Cecilia Maria Louisa Garcia Giuliana Vittoria Roberta Consuela Rosalina Margarita Puerta would prefer you to use her full name. She'll admit to being middle-of-the-line, but what new things does she have to bring to the table but her suspicions? But none of your suspicions are new either. Your suspects tend to be people already under scrutiny, and the reasons you give are nothing new either. In the event that one of your suspects are not under scrutiny (Tristan in day one, Damien in day three), you fail to follow up on your suspicions and simply let them drift into the wind. Sheridan- How is that a scum slip-up?! I'm not sure I understand it. I trusted Kenneth with my vote because at the time, he seemed to be doing some good scum-hunting. However, I've lost that trust. Now, you want to know why I think fhomess is scum? I don't! I was just following your advice in telling me not to reveal my poisoner suspicion. Evidence points to Kenneth being the poisoner. He was awfully quiet at the beginning, and we had no kills. What happens when he becomes verbal? We see poisoner kills. However, I wouldn't be revealing this if I thought he was the vig. So why am I revealing this right now? Because I think he's the serial killer. Now, he could just as well be the vig, but I don't think so. Kenneth seems to be far more quiet than I'd hope for our vigilante to be. He's said one thing today. I hope we don't have a vig who's going to act like that. I doubt that's the reason. If you look at the time stamps, you'll see that Day Two started 23 hours after Day One, which implies that everyone sent their night actions in early. Didn't most of us agree to keep the poisoner's identity a secret? You don't seem especially sure he's the SK yourself - why does being quiet make it less likely for Kenneth to have an important pro-town night action? Basically, you've just proved that you're willing to sell out our possible vig just to save your own skin. Unvote: The Fabulous Carletta Emilia Benita Anne-Marie Rosita Priscilla Lucia Annabelle Cecilia Maria Louisa Garcia Giuliana Vittoria Roberta Consuela Rosalina Margarita Puerta (CallMePie) Vote: Tristan Kingsley (TrumpetKing)
Tamamono Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 Vote Count Michael Thompson (Mencot) - 4 (Trumpetking, Adam, CallMePie, Dannylonglegs) Abigail Nelson (Adam) - 4 (fhomess, penalty, penalty, penalty) (Rule #5!!!) Damien Long (Dannylonglegs) - 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty) Tristan Kingsley (Trumpetking) - 3 (Scubacarrot, Capt. Redblade,TinyPiesRUs) Boris Wheeler (TheBoyWonder) - 2 (Kadabra, mostlytechnic) No Vote - 6 (PirateDave84, TheBoyWonder, LegoDad, Purpearljellyblob, Mencot, Peanuts) 21 hours remain until Sunset. Votes up, kids!
TrumpetKing Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Here's why I've thought poisoner was a Serial Killer role. This morning, the Town's role cop contacted me and said they found out that Tony and Carletta were Vanilla. Somebody was investigated as a Killer, and they just so happen to be dead. Who was the killer? Kimberly. This tells me that the poisoner is the serial killer. I'm not 100% on Kenneth, but he seems to fit the most. So, I wasn't "selling out our vig to save my skin", I was trying to avoid selling out our role cop.
Kadabra Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Well crud nuggets. If Tristan is telling the truth, then we're missing a vig and an investigator. Considering that I think Boris is scummiest t right now and that Tristan's game has been very pro-town until this fiasco today, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. It'd be nice to get the role cop to investigate you, Tristan, so if you come up "Janitor" or "Killer" or something we could know for sure you're scum (since the town killer is apparently dead, the only remaining killers should be the poisoner and the scum! ). Although Rolecop is far inferior to cop when it comes to determining allegiance, it's at least better than nothing.
Piratedave84 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 You are mistaken. I was on my glitchy phone all day and couldn't respond to the main topic, forcing me to resort to PM. SNIP WALL OF TEXT Thanks for the explanation, bieber me I know what having a stupid phone-device is like! But also, what an abundance of fail and on the quotes. Did you not read the rules! Bahhhhhh bieber!!! WTF! Should be believe.
Kadabra Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Thanks for the explanation, bieber me I know what having a stupid phone-device is like! But also, what an abundance of fail and on the quotes. Did you not read the rules! Bahhhhhh bieber!!! WTF! Should be believe. You want us to Bieber you?
Tamamono Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 Vote Count Michael Thompson (Mencot) - 4 (Trumpetking, Adam, CallMePie, Dannylonglegs) Damien Long (Dannylonglegs) - 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty) Tristan Kingsley (Trumpetking) - 3 (Scubacarrot, Capt. Redblade,TinyPiesRUs) Boris Wheeler (TheBoyWonder) - 2 (Kadabra, mostlytechnic) Abigail Nelson (Adam) - 1 (fhomess) (I messed up here, please forgive me) No Vote - 6 (PirateDave84, TheBoyWonder, LegoDad, Purpearljellyblob, Mencot, Peanuts) 20 hours remain until Sunset
LegoDad Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I'm back! So to follow-up on my previous statement, I have been discouraged (through PM) from pursuing my case against the person I suspect to be the SK seeing that there is a chance that this person is the vig which I admit is a possibility. I see that the primary targets today are Boris and Michael and if I had to choose between the two, I would probably pick Michael at this point based on his day 1 behavior and the fact that most of his posts are characterized by him agreeing or commenting on other people's opinions; heck, Michael even acknowledged he contributes very little pertinent information while he based his previous 2 votes on said lack of contributions: Also what is average best? sounds to me like you are saying that you try to appear to contribute but, by your admittance, are failing at doing so. There is another person I feel deserves a bit if scrutiny; Liz Devon Liz has voted middle of the pack on day 1 but started the voting/lynch/bandwagon on Day 2 and voted early on day 3. Here are those vote's justifications: Here a lengthy-ish case case is made against Sheridan whom she initially says is less risky but then proceeds to vote Caleb based on his flailing and then says the HE is the less risky. Here it is explicitly sad that you think Esther has a PR and yet you vote for her. Connie and Beatrice both did not speak a lot was the choice arbitrary? In the quotes above I also italicized the fact that both on day 1 and 2, Liz said she would revisit should something else arise and on both days, something did come up which could/should/would warant her changing her vote based on the 'parameters' she had set for changing her vote. I am not ready to commit to a vote right now but I will say that I am most certainly not going to vote for a lurker today as this had proven to be a shitty approach so far, my bet is that the scum team we are dealing with are either very-active or mid-fielders and not lurkers hence my suspicions of Michael and Liz. Patrick, if you're going to come after me with a bunch of crap, at least figure out how to read. I was claiming that at first, Esther was not the best lynch Day 1 since it was possible she had a PR, I didn't want to vote her at that point. Caleb was flailing away at the end of Day 1 and was very much looking like a troubled scum. I also said that I felt that Sheridan was a safer lynch(than Esther) as well since she wasn't claiming any roles. I would rather lose a possible vanilla than a possible PR. Does that make sense to you? On Day 2, the Esther show was in full force ending with a Vanilla claim, after strongly hinting at having a PR previously. This was basically outright lying to the town and she needed to be lynched. I didn't vote for her until she had basically ceased communication with anybody, and then came the vanilla claim. It was a mess, and I'm glad it's over. The "parameters" that you claim that I violated was that if Esther came out with a believable claim, i would switch my vote. That never happened, as claiming vanilla is not what she had been talking about, you know that as well as I do. It could have been true, but who was going to believe a word coming out of her mouth at that point. As for Beatrice and Connie, my vote was between the two of them personally, and I felt that Beatrice was scummier than Connie. I want to restate what I (or better said, Tony) noticed. Tristan entrusted his vote to Kenneth yesterday, yet today he is about 60% sure he is scum... What? This doesn't make any sense. It's a scum slip-up, it has to be! Tristan himself came by at least once and has ignored it and went away without giving an explanation. There is no explanation. He is running to his scum buddies asking what to do and hoping people will brush over it. PLEASE DON'T. PLEASE think about it. This is very interesting, but I think it's more of events unfolding as the week goes on. Tristan, to me, seems pretty townie. I have pretty much been sending my votes so far to those that don't contribute very much, or in Esther's case, lead us on wild goose chases. In that regard, I should vote for someone like Boris, but he doesn't seem TOO scummy to me. Fluffy, yeah, but I've been wrong that way before. Last town I acted fluffy, though..........hmm. Michael is also not giving us much, and a bit rough around the edges, but that was his style when I met him in another town as well, and he was a good guy, in the end. Carletta also doesn't really lend much to the conversation, either. Her name keeps getting longer, is her nose doing it as well? Abigail, another quiet one, but again, I'm not going to rush to vote off another person that doesn't talk as much as the next guy. Are we to believe that Kenneth is the SK now? I guess the time frame matches up for when he came to town and we started seeing green faces, is it that easy? I really want, and need to vote at this point, as I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to check back with you before my shift at the general store gets over. Tristan, if you have more to add that could link Kenneth and the SK role, I would love it, as it would give us a nice lynch instead of throwing darts at the wall like we seem to be doing right now.
Kadabra Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Okay (not ok-ey), I am here. HMm where to start Okay (not ok-ey), I am here. HMm where to start With a post that doesn't amount to jackshit?
Piratedave84 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Here's why I've thought poisoner was a Serial Killer role. This morning, the Town's role cop contacted me and said they found out that Tony and Carletta were Vanilla. Somebody was investigated as a Killer, and they just so happen to be dead. Who was the killer? Kimberly. This tells me that the poisoner is the serial killer. I'm not 100% on Kenneth, but he seems to fit the most. So, I wasn't "selling out our vig to save my skin", I was trying to avoid selling out our role cop. I knew it! You were so evasive when we discussed this that I was pretty confident in my assumptions that Kenneth was the SK! The 'math' adds up; 'new' Kenneth shows up on day 3 and all of the sudden we have a day kill followed by a same day night kill. This seems (to me) like a mod-approved kill passed on from the previous 'voice' who failed to submit it as the change was being made. Bear in mind that this is all speculations but it kind of adds up why else would there be 2 kills with the same MO in one day? Based on his killing townies I don't think it's safe to keep the SK around and he needs to die for us to win. This is our strongest lead so far and could also be our first non-town lynch. Well crud nuggets. If Tristan is telling the truth, then we're missing a vig and an investigator. Considering that I think Boris is scummiest t right now and that Tristan's game has been very pro-town until this fiasco today, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. It'd be nice to get the role cop to investigate you, Tristan, so if you come up "Janitor" or "Killer" or something we could know for sure you're scum (since the town killer is apparently dead, the only remaining killers should be the poisoner and the scum! ). Although Rolecop is far inferior to cop when it comes to determining allegiance, it's at least better than nothing. If the role cop claimed to Tristan I would sure hope he 'cleared' him first, if not that would be one stupid cop! - - - I'm thorn as to where to cast my vote; I kind of want to follow up on my previous statements and vote for Michael but then there's a good chance we could nail the SK ... I'm willing to put my faith in Tristan's allegations and my speculations so I shall vote: Kenneth (Fhomess)
Mencot Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Sheridan- How is that a scum slip-up?! I'm not sure I understand it. I trusted Kenneth with my vote because at the time, he seemed to be doing some good scum-hunting. However, I've lost that trust. Now, you want to know why I think fhomess is scum? I don't! I was just following your advice in telling me not to reveal my poisoner suspicion. Evidence points to Kenneth being the poisoner. He was awfully quiet at the beginning, and we had no kills. What happens when he becomes verbal? We see poisoner kills. However, I wouldn't be revealing this if I thought he was the vig. So why am I revealing this right now? Because I think he's the serial killer. Now, he could just as well be the vig, but I don't think so. Kenneth seems to be far more quiet than I'd hope for our vigilante to be. He's said one thing today. I hope we don't have a vig who's going to act like that. Okay (not ok-ey), suprise no so much, so this could be true but this was a thing I hadn´t even thought of that it could be like this. Because, Okay (not ok-ey) Kenneth (fhomes) hasn´t been active today (who knows why but I don´t judge on that because I haven´t been until now) but yesterday when he got online and into his new role was like the scum chaser and the poisonkills started. As his spilt personality (Kiel) wasn´t any online nor did nothing. Then the stuff if he is the SK or our Vig, I lean on the SK but Tristan if he is the vig now you have done the scum a big favour. But I don´t trust Tristan nor Kenneth so much right now, so they both can be not town, don´t know. But you should had keept your mouth shut about the poisoner as long as it is final that our vig is dead. Probably is becasue he hasn´t PM anyone, one person I trust that is almost 100 % is Molly and with she the ones with PR could PM. ´Bout Clay, still bugs me out but rereading some of his comments I find that he is more helmpful than scummy, especially today. But reading the day 1 thread, I thought it was intresting how Perry and Abigail jumnped or should we say started the bandvagon on Caleb. Don´t know if this means they are scum or if it was just like they found him also scum because they didn´t switch votes and the votes where so tied so maybe we can´t read anything from the 1 day votes. Day 2 was a run over on Esther lynch, not much there. Day 3 hmm, no I don´t get much from these voteing patterns Okay (not ok-ey) back to whom voted for me today: Michael Thompson (Mencot) - 4 (Trumpetking, Adam, CallMePie, Dannylonglegs) I still believe one of thes is scum. Damien, could be scum because he is quiet but that is that hasn´t been a good scumhunt criteria. And then that thing he didn´t vote yesterday so that doesn´t look like scumbehaviour. Then Carletta...(blabla whole name) don´t seem she have been done anything useful so far, just makeing her name longer and mixing with her fortune telling lies. She seem like a real fortune teller because she talks crap but I think that make her just a lazy town. Tristan and Abigail are an intresting pair, I need to still think on these two because oh well Tristan is now under some peoples suspicion and so has also Abigail. Will get back to you. With a post that doesn't amount to jackshit? Kane, I think you are town, one of the most after Molly but stop being an jackass, I was writting my comment. I just wanted to say I am hear today and active more for the end of the day.
MagPiesRUs Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Here's why I've thought poisoner was a Serial Killer role. This morning, the Town's role cop contacted me and said they found out that Tony and Carletta were Vanilla. Somebody was investigated as a Killer, and they just so happen to be dead. Who was the killer? Kimberly. This tells me that the poisoner is the serial killer. I'm not 100% on Kenneth, but he seems to fit the most. So, I wasn't "selling out our vig to save my skin", I was trying to avoid selling out our role cop. Huh. Fair enough, I suppose. Role-cop tends to be a scummy ability, and it's interesting that the Coyotes killed Kimberly so early, but I'm willing to believe you for now. Unvote: Tristan Kingsley (TrumpetKing) I'm not sure what the point was in revealing that Carletta and I are vanilla though. That just narrows things down for the scum, doesn't it? I'm also sort of surprised Sheridan hasn't been checked out yet, but I suppose there are reasons why the role cop wouldn't want to. I still don't quite follow the logic that Kenneth is the poisoner. Kenneth #1 seemed active enough in the first day, I can imagine he could've sent in a night action. As I said, Day Two started before the night action deadline was reached, so I'd assume that if he had an action, Kenneth sent it in on time on Night One. He was nowhere to be seen on Day Two though, so it's possible he wouldn't have sent in an action. Are you suggesting Kenneth was given a "free" day-kill to make up for inactivity? Did you end up talking with him in private, as some of us had advised?
TrumpetKing Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 That's entirely possible, about the kills. And I've actually seen quite a few town role cops in my days. I did not talk to him in private. However, somebody else that I trust did, and he says he has no part in it, though he could just as easily be lying.
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