Modular Building Sets - Rumours and Discussion

[The Jersey Brick Guy]

Day 1 purchase for me!

[Moebius118]

This is certainly fascinating developments.

Who called BS? We got a barber shop. Who wins that prize pot?

Next modular lottery up! My guess is a Call center/ Pawn shop/ Petrochemical plant/ Monastery.

[Herky]

This is certainly fascinating developments.

Who called BS? We got a barber shop. Who wins that prize pot?

Next modular lottery up! My guess is a Call center/ Pawn shop/ Petrochemical plant/ Monastery.

Lego monks? sweet

Bjorn, do you have wife or kids? If not, no problem, if you do, then you would understand the whole budget thing. Glad you have a lot of money and so does TLG, they cherish your money (kroners I think?) Enjoy your plastic toys.

[Off the wall]

A family can try and live responsibly. So, they have a budget. $10 in and of itself might not be a lot of money to many. But, multiply $10 by four or five family members with different interests. Or, maybe the family is just trying to meet certain goals. $10 will not kill them. They can afford Lego. But, it's about the discipline of staying on budget. Over time, it means a lot to a family. Both from a financial and, maybe even more importantly, from a morale standpoint.

[Faefrost]

Pattern recognition .. that's what seperate humans from other mammals (hence art and such)

I wouldn't put too much stock into those 'clues' ..

This, it is mostly us trying to find pattern where there is probably none. With that said what clues or cues there are, are probably spaced every other set, given how the production cycle works. So any clues to DO would have been in PC, etc. Which would make sense, remember before PC Jamie gave a hint that seemed to imply a restaurant?

[cassieas1]

If you look at the back picture there is a picture of what looks like a toilet then next to it there is a picture with a desk. Can anyone tell what parts they are using for the lamp on that desk? It looks to me like a bankers lamp which is a style of lamp I have been trying to build for a while now :)

I believe the lamp is made using these parts.

http://imgur.com/a/KTThL

[El Garfio]

PR costs €160 in Spain ($200 with today exchange rate) It is a great set but a bit expensive for my pocket. If DO costs the same or more (yearly prices increment) for me is very very very overpriced and definitively out of my wish list.

Edited November 19, 2014 by El Garfio

[badbob001]

I think I read way back in this thread, when the Detective Agency was still a rumor, that a distributor/dealer site had an upcoming large Creator set listed at the same price as the PR.

If this is the same price as the PR, despite fewer pieces, I would gladly pay the difference if all the pieces are printed. Lets hope that having stickers in the PC was a one-time anomaly and not the start of a trend.

Edited November 19, 2014 by badbob001

[jedijon]

Why do people say 'price point' instead of just 'price'. When someone asks what the high temperature is going to be, I don't say 'temperature point'. When they ask my destination, I don't say 'my destination point'.

At least to me, 'point' doesn't add anything.

Maybe.....????

Price point means a point on a scale of possible prices at which something might be marketed; its meaning is different from the meaning of price, which is (principally, but not only) the amount of money expected, required, or given in payment for something.

I see you're responding to my reference above appreciate it! Price is the term I use too...adding point is quite simply marketing speak and is 100% intentional. I use it when I want to evoke the idea that there's people out there with a master plan, those people in this case work for TLG, and they understand how any given number (price point) affects their consumers. Isn't language great?! We can say just what we mean. Or don't mean.

[Chilis]

bjorn, asking about price since we have to budget our Lego purchases, when you have kids that are into the Friends line, the Minecraft line, some Star Wars, some Hobbit, etc, you have to make sure you can budget for a modular for yourself, plus I get the Architecture line and other sets that catch my eye. There is only so much expendable income so knowing price means I can get it either January or have to wait til later in the year. As you said, will get it, but knowing price helps gauge the when we will get it timeline.

In Norway the PS costs about 239 USD and the TH 268 USD so spend your money well :)

[bjorn77]

Bjorn, do you have wife or kids? If not, no problem, if you do, then you would understand the whole budget thing. Glad you have a lot of money and so does TLG, they cherish your money (kroners I think?) Enjoy your plastic toys.

I got a wife and a kid. I'm not rich, but I have enough money to buy the sets I want. Which are actually not that many per year, since I'm picky. I don't really have any other expensive hobbies either. But I got your point and I meant no offense. Reading this forum, I get the impression that many members spend a crazy amount of money on lego, buying multiple copies of every modular and whatnot. So at least for them, money should be no concern. They could still be in minority though I suppose.

[Faefrost]

I think I read way back in this thread, when the Detective Agency was still a rumor, that a distributor/dealer site had an upcoming large Creator set listed at the same price as the PR.

If this is the same price as the PR, despite fewer pieces, I would gladly pay the difference if all the pieces are printed. Lets hope that having stickers in the PC was a one-time anomaly and not the start of a trend.

We still get way way to hung up on piece count with these larger sets. Remember Lego does not design a set around "piece count". They design based on "parts budget". Each distinct Lego element has a unique cost associated with it. And the size of the part budget determines the ultimate design and piece count. At the end of the day gross product weight is probably a more accurate predictor of price than part count. Even if the new DO has fewer parts than the PR I bet if you were to consult the shipping weight you would find them very very close, hence the similar pricing.

[Jern92]

In NZ, prices of modulars are generally similar, but can vary quite widely in some cases.

Palace Cinema : $269

Town Hall : $369

Everything else: $299

Simpsons house : $399

A lot more than a $10 difference.

[Dharkan]

In NZ, prices of modulars are generally similar, but can vary quite widely in some cases.

Palace Cinema : $269

Town Hall : $369

Everything else: $299

Simpsons house : $399

A lot more than a $10 difference.

I hear you bro. Got some crazy prices here too. Shame Lego lets that much of a difference happen.

[Off the wall]

We still get way way to hung up on piece count with these larger sets. Remember Lego does not design a set around "piece count". They design based on "parts budget". Each distinct Lego element has a unique cost associated with it. And the size of the part budget determines the ultimate design and piece count. At the end of the day gross product weight is probably a more accurate predictor of price than part count. Even if the new DO has fewer parts than the PR I bet if you were to consult the shipping weight you would find them very very close, hence the similar pricing.

Makes me wonder what portion of the cost of a set can be attributed to the actual parts and what portions are for sales, marketing, transportation, misc overhead and probably other stuff I'm forgetting to mention.

[ItsaBRICKS]

Makes me wonder what portion of the cost of a set can be attributed to the actual parts and what portions are for sales, marketing, transportation, misc overhead and probably other stuff I'm forgetting to mention.

Tariffs?

[lightningtiger]

Tariffs?

Sales taxes, duties, etc., all compound prices though I was once told a story that pricing is agreed on with all the major retailers with Lego....though I not sure how true that is.

[Faefrost]

Makes me wonder what portion of the cost of a set can be attributed to the actual parts and what portions are for sales, marketing, transportation, misc overhead and probably other stuff I'm forgetting to mention.

That is easy to see. Look at the posts above for Australian and Kiwi pricing. Compare with US and European pricing. The difference from high to low primarily reflects the differences in those back end costs, with a bit of economies of scale mixed in. The US has the lowest effective transport and real estate costs per unit of merchandise. New Zealand has among the highest.

[7360]

That is easy to see. Look at the posts above for Australian and Kiwi pricing. Compare with US and European pricing. The difference from high to low primarily reflects the differences in those back end costs, with a bit of economies of scale mixed in. The US has the lowest effective transport and real estate costs per unit of merchandise. New Zealand has among the highest.

I thought is market pricing practice from Lego? Lego purposely priced US cheaper

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20003

Where I am from PC is USD 200, PR USD 230.

Other set price for reference.

76009 The Council of Elrond , USD 64 vs USD 30

75049 LEGO STAR WARS Snowspeeder USD 60 vs USD 30

[jonwil]

I believe the lamp is made using these parts.

http://imgur.com/a/KTThL

Aha, its using the skeleton leg. Now I know how they did it I can make my own :)

[Off the wall]

That is easy to see. Look at the posts above for Australian and Kiwi pricing. Compare with US and European pricing. The difference from high to low primarily reflects the differences in those back end costs, with a bit of economies of scale mixed in. The US has the lowest effective transport and real estate costs per unit of merchandise. New Zealand has among the highest.

Sure, it is easy to see differences among different countries. My main question, which I may not have framed correctly, is what portion of a sets price that is based on the cost of parts without a country by country comparison of tariffs and taxes. Take a PC that sells for $149 in the USA. What is the cost structure that leads to a $149 price? Before and after TLG loads a few pounds of plastic in to bags, what are the other costs. Especially those at the source. Not country by country variables. And, as far as saying weight means as much/more that piece count, how much more does it really cost to produce a small tile as opposed to a larger more detailed piece? After all, you're dealing with a relatively small piece of plastic in most cases.

So, just looking at a USA price for the sake of discussion, how would a pie graph look that showed the various costs/profit goals that add up to $149 for a PC? Sure, the graph would differ from country to country.

[VintageLegoEra]

This will range from $145 - $165 USD

[Off the wall]

This will range from $145 - $165 USD

In other words, it will be either $149 like the PC or $159 like PR.

Nothing like going out on a limb. :-)

[lightningtiger]

In other words, it will be either $149 like the PC or $159 like PR.

Nothing like going out on a limb. :-)

Or they could put prices on a dart board and throw darts it to see what price to charge ?

Like now in the USA there is a ten dollar difference between the PC and PR yet In Oz there is a 90 dollar difference go figure !

[mapimi]

Or they could put prices on a dart board and throw darts it to see what price to charge ?

Like now in the USA there is a ten dollar difference between the PC and PR yet In Oz there is a 90 dollar difference go figure !

But does one dollar US equal one Australian dollar? I'm just curious, not commenting

Edited November 20, 2014 by mapimi