Super Heroes 2014 Rumors & Discussion

[Freddy Bricker]

^ Then should it be safe to assume Lego does have the rights? I don't think they could use the logo or the name if they didn't, and I'm also very sure they'd be in a very public lawsuit-hassle had they used the logo/name (they just used the name) without permission.

[KingPixels]

Also for everyone saying that the picture doesn't look preliminary, you can clearly see part of the watermark in the corner.

It definitely isn't a final product graphic, but the fact that the torso designs are crisp and polished, I'd say it's what we're getting.

[Dr Axels]

I found a sole Riddler Chase at Target last weekend, so I know that they are out, but it had been pilfered. Word is that Man-Bat is also out in the wild, but no sign of any of them on US S@H.

Aye, the 2014 DC sets are out in stores, you just need to look for them. I was at a Wal-Mart close to my home earlier this week, and found 1 lonely Riddler Chase sitting a shelf. Like any sensible person, I bought it right then and there.

It definitely isn't a final product graphic, but the fact that the torso designs are crisp and polished, I'd say it's what we're getting.

I'm honestly hoping the Magneto figure is at least preliminary. The bright red helmet just doesn't fit well with the dark blue torso and legs to me.

[Numbuh1Nerd]

^ Then should it be safe to assume Lego does have the rights? I don't think they could use the logo or the name if they didn't, and I'm also very sure they'd be in a very public lawsuit-hassle had they used the logo/name (they just used the name) without permission.

They can use the name X-Men and pass of everything in the set as being comic-based, no matter how apparent it is that they're cashing in on the movie, it's costumes, characters or plot. They can't market it as "LEGO X-Men: Days of Future Past sets" or use pictures of the cast from the movies. It's a teeny loophole.

[Amazing Bricks]

Aye, the 2014 DC sets are out in stores, you just need to look for them. I was at a Wal-Mart close to my home earlier this week, and found 1 lonely Riddler Chase sitting a shelf. Like any sensible person, I bought it right then and there.

I'm honestly hoping the Magneto figure is at least preliminary. The bright red helmet just doesn't fit well with the dark blue torso and legs to me.

It's actually purple, I have no problem with it at all. I'm happy for getting a different variation.

[gedren_y]

While Lego cannot officially produce movie specific sets, they can make comic variant figs. Having now looked at the characters chosen for the movie, I am really hoping we get Warpath (New Mutants costume) and/or Bishop (original series costume). We seem to be getting the comic DoFP costumes for Magneto and Storm. Cyclops isn't listed as a character in the DoFP movie, but his brother Havoc is. I am now flashing back to the original X-Men tv show when the X-Men encounter X-Factor.

[Kerberos]

I did read on Imdb that Nebula will be in the movie, though the only way we could get her would be if we got the full cast. And what if her appearance is brief and she doesn't really "join" until the next movie. Or has it been confirmed that she will be a Guardian of the Galaxy?

Nebula and The Collector are the two villains for the movie. She was in the footage that leaked from comic con

I think the GoTG fig I want most is Ronan The Accuser.

[SoupOrFishOil]

Thank you for your help. As soon as I finished typing that message I checked again on S@H and they are there. I think I may have helped you as well. Good luck!

You sure have! I'll have to place an order soon.

Aye, the 2014 DC sets are out in stores, you just need to look for them. I was at a Wal-Mart close to my home earlier this week, and found 1 lonely Riddler Chase sitting a shelf. Like any sensible person, I bought it right then and there.

That's how I got a pilfered set. LEGO seems to be okay with replacing the missing parts though. Their customer service is amazing at times like these.

[TheLegoDr]

Someone mentioned no dark Phoenix released, but the comic con figure does have a double sided head (one looks an awful lot like the Phoenix variation). I don't know enough about classic comics, so I'd assume her costume must be different too, but her head definitely resembles that.

[Ikkad555]

More X-Men sets! It's cool of LEGO to have designed a variant for Magneto; I was expecting them to reuse the classic costume from 2012, but this is definitely better. Storm looks promising as well, with a new cape cut and actually being a minifig at all. Hopefully their headgear are preliminary though; I'd rather see Storm with proper tiara, and Mags looks off with the original red helmet.

I'm kinda disappointed by the box art at the bottom of the pic; if Wolverine got his cowl, it should've been the one on the box, rather than his unmasked variant.

Does anyone know if there have been leaks in the LEGO video games of sets to be released a year later? LEGO Batman 2, LEGO LOTR and LEGO Marvel Superheroes all had previews of the sets that were released in the following winter wave, I'm sure. But I don't know about the summer wave.

[Kerberos]

Someone mentioned no dark Phoenix released, but the comic con figure does have a double sided head (one looks an awful lot like the Phoenix variation). I don't know enough about classic comics, so I'd assume her costume must be different too, but her head definitely resembles that.

Dark phoenix has the red costume; regular phoenix is green.

As far as the comic con exclusivity agreements; I question how big of a deal that actually is. I've seen plenty of other merchandise get around that easy. A good example is this DBZ scouter http://www.bigbadtoy...289&mode=retail The only difference between the Con exclusive version and the retail version was the external packaging was different but the toy itself is completely identical in every way. For the minifigs it seems like something as small as changing the expression of the face print a little ought to be enough.

Another example http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2013/05/20/dc-collectibles-announces-san-diego-comic-con-con-exclusives#2

DC offered an 'exclusive' set of Super Best Friends Forever figures at SDCC last year. Guess what's now available as a standard retail item? http://www.bigbadtoy...671&mode=retail The difference here is that they were sold as a set of 3 at the con and are now sold individually and also the retail version has a storage bin that snaps onto the underside of the figure's base to store the alternate heads (making the retail version better than the con version).

Edited January 3, 2014 by Kerberos

[wesker]

Don't forget Azog from the Hobbit line was released as a SDCC exclusive, but later appeared in the Dul Guldor Battle set with no alterations whatsoever. Then there's Green Lantern and Venom/Black Spider-Man where the only difference from the SDCC minifigure is the head print. I question just how exclusive Phoenix actually is, especially when the green costume is Jean Grey's most iconic look.

[Blast]

A Lego Sentinel would have been preferred but it seems they're going for the Blackbird.

I really hope Yondhu gets a Minifigure!

Edited January 3, 2014 by Blast

[larsyuipo]

I think blackbird gets the game design

[strangely]

It doesn't matter anyway. LEGO can make as many unofficial movie tie-ins as they want. Do you think we'd see Ultimate Electro if it wasn't for him having a big movie with that exact version of Electro? They're allowed to do pretty much anything with the characters as long as they don't use the logos or anything. They even made the movie Spider-Man into a ComicCon exclusive figure, so...

They can't just make whatever they want so long as they don't use logos. Marvel and DC set guidelines for what they can use. In the case of X-men they can use the comic books (Which is why every X-men figure so far bears resemblance to specific comic book variations of the characters). However they cannot use costumes from the movies as they do not have the rights to do so. The only reason they've been able to make similar to the movie figures is because most of the comic books feature similar costumes (Though not completely the same). They can't make anything directly based on a movie that they do not have the rights too. However they can use similar variations of costumes so long as they were featured in the comic books. There's a fine line they have to walk on copyright, crossing that line could cause serious problems for Lego, lawsuits included. So while they'll use a similar line-up of characters they're unable to use the exact same look for them.

And that ComicCon figure doesn't mean they can do whatever they want. Disney owns the merchandising rights to ASM2, so Lego can make sets and minifigures on it if Disney wants them too. This year it seems that rather than make sets for the film they've decided to use the same villains in their USM sets. In short they're using Sony's ASM2 to trick kids into buying USM sets. And since Disney owns the rights to ASM2 merchandising it means that unless they make sets theirs no competition to the USM sets.

[Spider-Man]

Based off of this picture, I think that LEGO would be fine with making a Groot figure with just longer limbs like Woody and a custom headpiece rather than giving us the big-fig that's in the game. The game model looks way to bulky compared to Groot in that picture.

[gedren_y]

What I am waiting for are the movie images for Yondu, but Marvel seems to be keeping him under wraps. Given that he is being portrayed by Michael Rooker, I am confident he'll have his classic look.

[thefyfe]

What I am waiting for are the movie images for Yondu, but Marvel seems to be keeping him under wraps. Given that he is being portrayed by Michael Rooker, I am confident he'll have his classic look.

There's already images of him in costume on the net - looks great!heres a link

http://www.newsarama.com/18758-first-look-michael-rooker-as-yondu-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy.html

[Ultron]

Based off of this picture, I think that LEGO would be fine with making a Groot figure with just longer limbs like Woody and a custom headpiece rather than giving us the big-fig that's in the game. The game model looks way to bulky compared to Groot in that picture.

I think that would look even better than a big fig and hope lego goes that route. His head piece can be rather tall as well to add to his height.

Nebula and The Collector are the two villains for the movie. She was in the footage that leaked from comic con

I think the GoTG fig I want most is Ronan The Accuser.

Actually Ronan the accuser is the main villain in the movie.

[LMB10]

Supposedly Marvel are working on a Guardians animated show, so we could see sets based on that in the future as well as these upcoming ones.

[Numbuh1Nerd]

They can't just make whatever they want so long as they don't use logos. Marvel and DC set guidelines for what they can use. In the case of X-men they can use the comic books (Which is why every X-men figure so far bears resemblance to specific comic book variations of the characters). However they cannot use costumes from the movies as they do not have the rights to do so. The only reason they've been able to make similar to the movie figures is because most of the comic books feature similar costumes (Though not completely the same). They can't make anything directly based on a movie that they do not have the rights too. However they can use similar variations of costumes so long as they were featured in the comic books. There's a fine line they have to walk on copyright, crossing that line could cause serious problems for Lego, lawsuits included. So while they'll use a similar line-up of characters they're unable to use the exact same look for them.

And that ComicCon figure doesn't mean they can do whatever they want. Disney owns the merchandising rights to ASM2, so Lego can make sets and minifigures on it if Disney wants them too. This year it seems that rather than make sets for the film they've decided to use the same villains in their USM sets. In short they're using Sony's ASM2 to trick kids into buying USM sets. And since Disney owns the rights to ASM2 merchandising it means that unless they make sets theirs no competition to the USM sets.

Marvel still owns the source material, and there is no way they'd let an opportunity to capitalize off of these characters being in the public eye of their target demographic. So we could see Wolverine in a white t-shirt and Magneto looking kinda similar to Micheal Fasbender's version, although most likely just in costume. It wouldn't be hard at all to slip past the copyrights when your dealing with one company owning every character, story, and related noun and another making a movie based on that. Fox can use any character from the X-Men side of things that they'd like and Marvel can then market that character and keep every penny of that profit to themselves. It's really the smartest move they can make.

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

Dark phoenix has the red costume; regular phoenix is green.

As far as the comic con exclusivity agreements; I question how big of a deal that actually is. I've seen plenty of other merchandise get around that easy. A good example is this DBZ scouter http://www.bigbadtoy...289&mode=retail The only difference between the Con exclusive version and the retail version was the external packaging was different but the toy itself is completely identical in every way. For the minifigs it seems like something as small as changing the expression of the face print a little ought to be enough.

Another example http://www.dccomics....on-exclusives#2

DC offered an 'exclusive' set of Super Best Friends Forever figures at SDCC last year. Guess what's now available as a standard retail item? http://www.bigbadtoy...671&mode=retail The difference here is that they were sold as a set of 3 at the con and are now sold individually and also the retail version has a storage bin that snaps onto the underside of the figure's base to store the alternate heads (making the retail version better than the con version).

Problem is they don´t do that. Instead of giving us a black TDKR Batman we got a dark grey one because the black one was exclusive and the rest of the figs like Shazam don´t even get released.

Don't forget Azog from the Hobbit line was released as a SDCC exclusive, but later appeared in the Dul Guldor Battle set with no alterations whatsoever. Then there's Green Lantern and Venom/Black Spider-Man where the only difference from the SDCC minifigure is the head print. I question just how exclusive Phoenix actually is, especially when the green costume is Jean Grey's most iconic look.

Azog is from Hobbit so they probably have a different agreement. And seeing how he uses two new molds only made for him nobody should have expected him to stay exclusive.

Green Lantern from SDCC is still exclusive, but seeing how he is 2011 movie version they would go for a different design anyway.

Venom and Black Spidey are two different characters, so it´s more like Venom got the same torso as the exclusive fig and not "just a different head print".

With Phoenix I think they could just go without boot printing, that´s only for CMFs anyway but in the worst case we will just get that yellow bodysuit with a blue line she had in the 90s cartoon/Lego game.

[Rinzler]

Anybody know if Riddler Chase is out in Leicester, England yet?

[strangely]

Marvel still owns the source material, and there is no way they'd let an opportunity to capitalize off of these characters being in the public eye of their target demographic. So we could see Wolverine in a white t-shirt and Magneto looking kinda similar to Micheal Fasbender's version, although most likely just in costume. It wouldn't be hard at all to slip past the copyrights when your dealing with one company owning every character, story, and related noun and another making a movie based on that. Fox can use any character from the X-Men side of things that they'd like and Marvel can then market that character and keep every penny of that profit to themselves. It's really the smartest move they can make.

That's pretty much what I said. They can use similar variations of costumes, but they can't all out steal costumes from Fox. Fortunately Marvel has incorporated similar costumes as the movie into the comic books meaning that Lego can choose a similar costume out of the comic books as a sneaky little tie-in without violating copyrights. Lego can't do exactly whatever they want but they can straddle the line on it for sure.

[Kerberos]

Actually Ronan the accuser is the main villain in the movie.

Hmmm, looks like you're right. I hadn't read any updated plot blurbs since Karen Gillan's role was leaked as 'female lead villain' and everyone was speculating who it would be. I guess that's good though; almost definite we'll get a Ronan fig now

Problem is they don´t do that. Instead of giving us a black TDKR Batman we got a dark grey one because the black one was exclusive and the rest of the figs like Shazam don´t even get released.

Azog is from Hobbit so they probably have a different agreement. And seeing how he uses two new molds only made for him nobody should have expected him to stay exclusive.

Green Lantern from SDCC is still exclusive, but seeing how he is 2011 movie version they would go for a different design anyway.

Venom and Black Spidey are two different characters, so it´s more like Venom got the same torso as the exclusive fig and not "just a different head print".

With Phoenix I think they could just go without boot printing, that´s only for CMFs anyway but in the worst case we will just get that yellow bodysuit with a blue line she had in the 90s cartoon/Lego game.

They haven't done that, no. But there's nothing stopping them from doing it is my point. They can choose to do it any time.

Edited January 3, 2014 by Kerberos