Super Heroes 2014 Rumors & Discussion

[Catanas]

I doubt that would be an issue as there are plenty of other similar lines on the market. Some by Funko, as well as others.

That's a fair point, but might raise another issue. TLG might think the market is too saturated already :P

[korpen4444]

That's a fair point, but might raise another issue. TLG might think the market is too saturated already :P

Always something, isn't it?

[B-Lister]

Let's hope not!

[Ultron]

I'd imagine a really small wave of line up of Ultimate Spider-Man sets (which are supposedly the big seller of the Marvel line) like 2013, or nothing. Age of Ultron comes out in May, and while it seems like LEGO has been very selective with these new MCU movies, this is going to be a HUGE film. I hope they won't just slap together another Avengers Assemble wave, but they wouldn't do that... right?

Of course there will be sets. This movie will be bigger and better than the first and we got sets for that. I have no doubt it will make more money than the first movie as well so if Lego didn't do sets for it, they'd be losing A LOT of money.

[Sam892]

I'm not expecting to see her in a solo set, or even her specifically. It just baffles me that they can't even throw her (or any other hero) into a Superman set and call it a day. I ask this because I don't think it would drown a set. And if I'm lucky to have seen Aquaman and the Flash be the only non-Batman hero's released in their respective years, if 1 new non-Batman character a year is 'lucky' then what should I expect from their slow years? The more anyone says about this theme, the less I like it. It's my opinion, and I'm just stating it. DC collectibles and plush toy and belts and clothes and pins seem to throw GL around plenty of advertisements and merchandise, why can't I even get him once in this theme? He's the freaking Green Lantern. I'm not asking for Simon Baz or Katma Tui (though I would gladly buy both) I just want a freakin' Hal Jordan. Or anyone else. Just please get Bruce away from me.

DC comics collectables and LEGO target completely different audiences than each other. DC are targeting usually Adults and teens, while LEGO are targeting Kids. On top of that DC are targeting people who are direct fans, it's highly unlikely that anyone purchases straight from DC unless they are comic book fans. Where as most people purchasing LEGO are either Kids or Parents of those kids, and unfortunately Kids don't care about Stargirl or Steve Trevor or Deadshot.

Plus DC collectables sell mainly over the web, or in Comic book stores which are places dedicated to comic book merchandise. LEGO is mainly sold in stores, in places like super markets, toy stores and department stores. Just by being in different types of stores means LEGO has to play by a different set of rules. DC collectables at are competing with Marvel products in comic book stores. While LEGO is competing with Megabloks, Playmobile, Xbox, Playstation, Kre o and With merchandise around whatever film is out ( sometimes there Marvel and DC ). If a kid sees one thing in a set that they don't like it can put them of the set. I've seen kids in the store switch to a different set because of mini figs or weather they know a character or not.

WHY would a 7 year old want star girl? As far as I'm aware she hasn't even appeared outside of comics ( which are aimed at teens upwards). Most 7 year olds aren't even going to know whether she's a villain or a hero.

LEGO also only has so much shelf space for A) there brand and B) each theme. If they screw up once it's expensive for them. One set might not seem a lot but if a set doesn't sell well that's thousands of copies that is really just sitting there wasting room that could sell another product.

Comparing DC collectables to LEGO is like comparing a apples to oranges, they don't play by the same rules because they physically can't.

[agoodfella77]

Does anyone know / have a general idea when the X-Men vs. Sentinel set (76022) is due to release (in the US)?

Many thanks!

[Catanas]

Always something, isn't it?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love them to. We can always hope!

[The-Daryl]

Does anyone know / have a general idea when the X-Men vs. Sentinel set (76022) is due to release (in the US)?

Many thanks!

June 1st.

[SoupOrFishOil]

Lego's Flash lacks a good amount of yellow, much like Flash's TV costume.

And it also lacks dark red coloring, seams, gold, smaller lightning bolts, a boxy belt buckle, and the red in the insignia. The face beneath also has yellow-orangey eyebrows, when Grant Gustin is a brunette. I agree that Flash would be a lot better with yellow boots, but the minifigure is definitely comic based.

Does anyone know / have a general idea when the X-Men vs. Sentinel set (76022) is due to release (in the US)?

Many thanks!

Probably June? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[agoodfella77]

June 1st.

Thank for the reply... is that an "official" release date?

Cheers!

[The-Daryl]

Thank for the reply... is that an "official" release date?

Cheers!

It's what was on the cards at the Toy Fair for release, so official, at least tentatively.

If the Marvel/DC sets that "officially" released on March 1st are any indication you might find them on store shelves mid May :)

[agoodfella77]

It's what was on the cards at the Toy Fair for release, so official, at least tentatively.

If the Marvel/DC sets that "officially" released on March 1st are any indication you might find them on store shelves mid May :)

Thanks! Can't wait for it.

The minifigs look fantastic, I've been waiting for them for a long time. It's a real shame at how bad the Sentinel's look and how puny the Blackbird is however...

[sithewok]

Yeah... I'll basically be buying the set for the minifigures. Really wish they were doing more than one X-men set. Maybe if the X-mansion on Cuusoo keeps getting support they will see that there is a bigger market for X-men characters/sets.

[Numbuh1Nerd]

Flash has recognisable villains, like Reverse Flash, Grodd and the Rogues... Arrow has Merlyn and... maybe Vertigo... I like Jeff Lemire's Komodo in the New 52, but there isn't much. So ofcourse he needs to borrow Teen Titans and C-Grade Bats villains. I'd love to see Arrow use Riddler to be honest as he appeared in Kevin Smith and Judd Winick's run and we haven't seen him live action since 95.

Green Arrow has plenty of bad guys. Deathstroke in recent days has become a shared villain between Green Arrow and Batman. Even then, that's just counting the big-name villains. Green Arrow's been around for over fifty years, I'm sure he's got some guys they could appropriate. Not to mention lots of people don't realize that Green Arrow is a DC Comics superhero, or that the show is based on a comic book character whatsoever. Even more people don't know of most if not all of the villains used in the show. The general populace is likely not familiar with Clock King, a Batman villain, just as they're unfamiliar with Doctor Light, a Green Arrow villain. It really doesn't make a difference in that regard if they use either, but it does make it seem like A. a Batman show on a budget to comics fans and B. like Green Arrow can't stand on his own two feet in a live-action form. I also wish they would've used characters from Green Arrow's rogues gallery in the correct form instead of warping them to become wannabe Bat-villains (i.e. Making Brother Blood almost exactly like Batman Begins' Scarecrow as opposed to a cult leader, but that's another rant for another day.

As for Flash, people don't even recognize Flash's logo, let alone his villains. True story: I was wearing my Flash t-shirt one night when my mom and I were stopped at a sobriety checkpoint. The policeman asked if we'd been drinking (of course we were not), said we could go and that he liked my shirt and that "he watches that show all the time." I was quite confused for about the next ten minutes because Flash hasn't been on a tv series regularly since Justice League Unlimited, but then I realized that he was referring to the Big Bang Theory, which as you may know, the main character Sheldon wears a Flash t-shirt often and the logo is often appropriated to go with his "Bazinga" catchphrase on anything they can possibly slap that on to. Flash is not a household icon these days.

[B-Lister]

So they took all of the NTT villains and are using them to prop up Green Arrow?

Just another in a long list of inexcusable slights to Titans Fans in the New 52. Sometimes I wonder why I even support DC anymore.

Alas, I'll still buy the sets and characters I love, and keep hoping for more.

[Numbuh1Nerd]

While I don't think sets from Arrow are likely, I do think getting a set or two loosely based off of the show (in the same way the new X-Men set seems to be loosely based on Days of Future Past) would be nice. Getting Green Arrow without having to pay obscene amounts of money would be very good, and the prospect of a Deathstroke figure or a figure of some other villain from the show would be very interesting. Plus, seeing as DC sets seem to have to have Batman in them, a set loosely based on Arrow would work well as Batman fits into the environment seen in Arrow.

As for Flash, I don't see much point making a set loosely based on that show just yet, mainly because we've only just had a Flash variant in the latest wave of DC sets. Saying that, I'm sure this show will also have a great range of villains like Arrow has done so far.

I agree. Taking advantage of Green Arrow's popularity is just a good idea in a business sense, and would happen to be very fortuitous for the consumers as well I think even a $20 set with Green Arrow on a motorcycle chasing a truck of some sort being driven by Deathstroke and Count Vertigo (in comic book form) would work. Once again, even Imaginext's Justice League includes Hawkman, Green Arrow, Cyborg, and Red Tornado. I think LEGO should be able to give us that and then some.

[Freddy Bricker]

Everything about the Teen Titans in the New 52 was ruined by Scott Lobdell, not DC. For some reason, they let him take his own liberties, and since the book sold (likely for the title) they let him continue. He also ruined Superman, which is inexcusable.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Freddy Bricker

[Colossus]

Scott Lobdell is an assclown. Not satisfied with screwing up just one comics universe, he moves from Marvel to DC and continues his crap storm there.

Also, Numbuh1Nerd has a good point. Imaginext has no problem making Hawkman, Red Tornado, GL's, and other neither-Super-nor-Bat-related figures. Why not Lego? It's these b-listers I can never find for my son. All the Batman pegwarmers, and that's it. Red Tornado is his new favorite. Hasn't ever seen him on TV or in a book, but for some reason wigged out when he saw the fig when I bought him the set for the Cyborg fig that he knows from Teen Titans Go!

Edited March 14, 2014 by Colossus

[B-Lister]

DC is responsible. If they didn't want him doing it, Editorial should have stopped him.

But editorial is Bob Harras, who was responsible for the same stunt at Marvel, only instead of The New 52, they called it Heroes Reborn.

The fans had better sense, demanded the real MU back, and they canned Harras. Shame the same didn't happen with DC.

But, DC is really getting the license out there, and it has resulted in some awesome sets from TLG. Just wish there were more classic styled minifigures, and more based on video game, movie, and film adaptations.

TLG is sitting on a goldmine, I hope that they realize the fact that if they get as much out as possible, more fans will start buying. This license can be as big as Star Wars for them, if they just let the fans in a little.

[Kerberos]

DC is responsible. If they didn't want him doing it, Editorial should have stopped him.

But editorial is Bob Harras, who was responsible for the same stunt at Marvel, only instead of The New 52, they called it Heroes Reborn.

The fans had better sense, demanded the real MU back, and they canned Harras. Shame the same didn't happen with DC.

But, DC is really getting the license out there, and it has resulted in some awesome sets from TLG. Just wish there were more classic styled minifigures, and more based on video game, movie, and film adaptations.

TLG is sitting on a goldmine, I hope that they realize the fact that if they get as much out as possible, more fans will start buying. This license can be as big as Star Wars for them, if they just let the fans in a little.

I think Lego just wants to have movies/cartoons to tie their sets into. That's why the Marvel sets have so much more variety. Marvel's putting out 2 movies a year themselves plus movies from Fox/Sony they can indirectly tie into (like Wolverine's chopper and the Days of Future Past set) and have 3 cartoons going (USM/Avengers Assemble/Hulk agents of S.M.A.S.H.). Any time of the year there's plenty Marvel material to base a set on. Between Man of Steel and Batman v Superman (in 2016 -_-); the only DC media running is Teen Titans Go. Really, Teen Titans Go! A cartoon that's not even about crime fighting where they devote entire episodes to gags about cakes and stuff. That's why all we get is Batman, that's the only thing they feel comfortable making without any media to tie it into.

I think when Warner Bros kicks the DC movies into gear is when the Lego sets will get better. I wouldn't be surprised if they even have a new Justice League cartoon planned to capitalize on the popularity of the movies. In all honesty though, Arrow is nothing. I know some of you guys like it but no one watches CW and their whole network is built around low-budget programming. For a CW show and for its budget; you could say it's reasonably popular. But it doesn't even hit the kid demographic that Lego focuses on and it's nowhere near the viewership it would need (like Breaking Bad/Walking Dead/NCIS #s) for Lego to want to look past the age rating like they did with the Nolan bat sets.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Kerberos

[B-Lister]

I agree, but Flash and Arrow (Flash seems more family friendly than Arrow) exist, and could be ripe for merchandising. One hand washes the other. Granted, they're not cartoons, but TLG didn't strike while the YJ iron was hot either.

I miss the days when the comics were enough to sell the toys.

Edited March 14, 2014 by B-Lister

[JaseTJ]

I think when Warner Bros kicks the DC movies into gear is when the Lego sets will get better. I wouldn't be surprised if they even have a new Justice League cartoon planned to capitalize on the popularity of the movies. In all honesty though, Arrow is nothing. I know some of you guys like it but no one watches CW and their whole network is built around low-budget programming. For a CW show and for its budget; you could say it's reasonably popular. But it doesn't even hit the kid demographic that Lego focuses on and it's nowhere near the viewership it would need (like Breaking Bad/Walking Dead/NCIS #s) for Lego to want to look past the age rating like they did with the Nolan bat sets.

O_O

Have you heard of Supernatural? Because it kindof has one of the biggest fandoms out there up with all of the BBC shows and Harry Potter and stuff. Not that Lego will make sets because of it, but... The CW isn't doing too poorly :P

[Samiens]

While I really don't see us getting sets based on Arrow (its set at night, with a dark palette and is ultra (if not gory) violent), don't forget its popular outside the US too- in the UK its prime time on sky and gets decent figures.

I think it would be a big shift in Lego policy to provide sets on a show with an adult audience, and i think there's easier money elsewhere

[Pulp Detective]

DC comics collectables and LEGO target completely different audiences than each other. DC are targeting usually Adults and teens, while LEGO are targeting Kids. On top of that DC are targeting people who are direct fans, it's highly unlikely that anyone purchases straight from DC unless they are comic book fans. Where as most people purchasing LEGO are either Kids or Parents of those kids, and unfortunately Kids don't care about Stargirl or Steve Trevor or Deadshot.

Plus DC collectables sell mainly over the web, or in Comic book stores which are places dedicated to comic book merchandise. LEGO is mainly sold in stores, in places like super markets, toy stores and department stores. Just by being in different types of stores means LEGO has to play by a different set of rules. DC collectables at are competing with Marvel products in comic book stores. While LEGO is competing with Megabloks, Playmobile, Xbox, Playstation, Kre o and With merchandise around whatever film is out ( sometimes there Marvel and DC ). If a kid sees one thing in a set that they don't like it can put them of the set. I've seen kids in the store switch to a different set because of mini figs or weather they know a character or not.

WHY would a 7 year old want star girl? As far as I'm aware she hasn't even appeared outside of comics ( which are aimed at teens upwards). Most 7 year olds aren't even going to know whether she's a villain or a hero.

LEGO also only has so much shelf space for A) there brand and B) each theme. If they screw up once it's expensive for them. One set might not seem a lot but if a set doesn't sell well that's thousands of copies that is really just sitting there wasting room that could sell another product.

Comparing DC collectables to LEGO is like comparing a apples to oranges, they don't play by the same rules because they physically can't.

You got a point there but I doubt if any 7 year old knows who is Two-face,Man Bat or even Taskmaster yet still Lego made those characters,so why not other not-so-famous characters too? Edited March 14, 2014 by LOTR343

[Spider-Man]

You got a point there but I doubt if any 7 year old knows who is Two-face,Man Bat or even Taskmaster yet still Lego made those characters,so why not other not-so-famous characters too?

I think you are highly underestimating kids. My 7 year old brother definitely knows who those guys are and his friends know at least ManBat and Two-Face. Kids pick up on stuff really fast and with all the superhero merchandise these days they tend to be fairly familiar with obscure characters.