Super Heroes 2014 Rumors & Discussion

[8BrickMario]

Joker's original characterization was a zany, prank-themed villain. Since then, he has fluctuated from complete sociopath and cold-blooded killer to a total clown or in between. What's that grey piece inside the back engine cone? The interior looks great.

[jonwil]

I think i mentioned this before, but Marvel doesn't really have a UCS set possible. The only thing I can think of possibly getting the UCS treatment is a S.H.I.E.L.D Helicarrier set, but the size of the Helicarrier would have to compete with the UCS Millennium falcon since both models are extremely huge and that would be in the same price rage as the millennium falcon. ($500)

UCS X-Men mansion/school?

UCS Avengers mansion?

If they can do Arkham, they could do either of these locations (both of which are quite well known) in a similar "play-set" fashion.

[Faefrost]

what do you all think each of the figs will be on bricklink?

$50-$75 each, easy. 2 highly desired figs that are unique to a $200 set? And it's not like there is a huge market for individual black bricks (outside of maybe classic Blacktron fans?) to offset the costs of parting it out. Typically when Bricklink vendors but sets to part out, the combined price of the figs is where they make back their purchase price. This one will be painful.

[TheLegoExperience]

$50-$75 each, easy. 2 highly desired figs that are unique to a $200 set? And it's not like there is a huge market for individual black bricks (outside of maybe classic Blacktron fans?) to offset the costs of parting it out. Typically when Bricklink vendors but sets to part out, the combined price of the figs is where they make back their purchase price. This one will be painful.

I can't afford that! I need a full time job just for this hobby.

[hockeyboy89]

Joker's original characterization was a zany, prank-themed villain. Since then, he has fluctuated from complete sociopath and cold-blooded killer to a total clown or in between. What's that grey piece inside the back engine cone? The interior looks great.

It looks like a grey 2x2 barrel.

[Faefrost]

I think i mentioned this before, but Marvel doesn't really have a UCS set possible. The only thing I can think of possibly getting the UCS treatment is a S.H.I.E.L.D Helicarrier set, but the size of the Helicarrier would have to compete with the UCS Millennium falcon since both models are extremely huge and that would be in the same price rage as the millennium falcon. ($500)

Marvel UCS?

Heli carriers are the obvious ones (2 types now)

Dr. Stranges mansion would be perfection as a Modular

Xavier's School for the gifted

UCS Milano from GotG

UCS Warbird from same

UCS Nova cruiser

UCS new Quinjett from Avengers 2

Avengers Tower

Classic Avengers Mansion

Classic Fantasticar

UCS X Men Blackbird (ie a real Blackbird, not an "X jet")

Red Ronin (ok I'm just hallucinating on that one... But a Lego UCS Mecha the size of the old Shogan Warriors toys would be soooo cool)

UCS Asgard

Given that GotG 2 has already been green lit, and James Gunn given the go ahead to direct, and that Avengers 3 seems to be heading towards a cosmic storyline, I'm betting Marvel will quickly open up the possibilities for some really gorgeous ships and vehicles.

Joker's original characterization was a zany, prank-themed villain. Since then, he has fluctuated from complete sociopath and cold-blooded killer to a total clown or in between. What's that grey piece inside the back engine cone? The interior looks great.

Joker's original characterization was as a brutal thug. Possibly only surpassed by Batman himself. Who beat 7 kinds of Megabloks out of him, tied him up, then literally kicked him out of a speeding car, into traffic, in front of the police station. The jokey gag stuff came later. As did Batman's more classical, less "Miller'esque" personality.

Where are you guys getting all those hd pictures from? Are there more? Like the box-art and such?

btw, aren't all UCS sticker free?

Oh heck NO! The recent Red 5 X Wing comes complete with what are possibly the most heinous stickers Lego has ever made. The dreaded X Wing Canopy stickers. They actually included an extra set in the box... Because they knew you would screw them up.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Faefrost

[Nimrod]

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Edited December 9, 2020 by Nimrod

[Kire]

Marvel UCS?

Heli carriers are the obvious ones (2 types now)

Dr. Stranges mansion would be perfection as a Modular

Xavier's School for the gifted

UCS Milano from GotG

UCS Warbird from same

UCS Nova cruiser

UCS new Quinjett from Avengers 2

Avengers Tower

Classic Avengers Mansion

Classic Fantasticar

UCS X Men Blackbird (ie a real Blackbird, not an "X jet")

Red Ronin (ok I'm just hallucinating on that one... But a Lego UCS Mecha the size of the old Shogan Warriors toys would be soooo cool)

UCS Asgard

Given that GotG 2 has already been green lit, and James Gunn given the go ahead to direct, and that Avengers 3 seems to be heading towards a cosmic storyline, I'm betting Marvel will quickly open up the possibilities for some really gorgeous ships and vehicles.

If GOTG 2 doesn't have the Annihilus wave storyline I am going to be very upset and same thing with Avenger 3, I'm patiently waiting for the civil war storyline to occur.

Realistically speaking if Lego made Avenger mansion or Xavier's school it would come out bad. Especially since the Xavier's school wouldn't even have Cerebro since that's a huge room underground the mansion. Avengers mansion hasn't even been unveiled yet, from the Avengers movie the main base of headquarters was the Helicarrier and Tony Stark's penthouse and to have a Doctor Strange Mansion Marvel would have to make a movie to pus the character since Dr Strange is a really under the radar character. Same thing for the fantasticar since Fox owns the rights and the Reboot hasn't even released yet. UCS Asgard would be really difficult since it would require Lego basically making a new city. UCS Gotg sets are way too soon to happen since it depends on more of a sells thing if the public even likes the sets and the design of the ships.

However I do believe the possibility of UCS Blackbird would be really cool and possible. I would definitely buy, especially if it came with a UCS Nimrod or Master Mold Sentinel.

[agoodfella77]

I think i mentioned this before, but Marvel doesn't really have a UCS set possible. The only thing I can think of possibly getting the UCS treatment is a S.H.I.E.L.D Helicarrier set, but the size of the Helicarrier would have to compete with the UCS Millennium falcon since both models are extremely huge and that would be in the same price rage as the millennium falcon. ($500)

Vehicle Sets

• UCS S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier
  
• UCS Blackbird (X-Men)
  
• UCS Quinjet (Avengers)
  
• UCS Fantasticar
  
• UCS Apocalypse "Ship"
  
• UCS Kang's Time-Ship
  

Buildings Sets

• UCS X-Mansion
  
• UCS Stark Tower
  
• UCS Sanctum Sanctorum (Doctor Strange)
  
• UCS Oscorp Tower
  
• UCS Baxter Building
  
• UCS Daily Bugle
  
• UCS Odin's Throne Room
  
• UCS Doctor Doom's Castle
  

Others

• Punisher Battle Van
  
• Hawkeye's Sky Bike
  
• Moon Knight's Helicopter
  

Edited July 21, 2014 by agoodfella

[Moon_Knight]

Yeah, no possibilities for a UCS Marvel set is a ridiculous statement.

@agoodfella - Love the idea of a UCS Odin's Throne Room.

I'd love to see a cinematic take on the Civil War too but not with only a handful of superheroes in the universe.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Moon_Knight

[agoodfella77]

If GOTG 2 doesn't have the Annihilus wave storyline I am going to be very upset and same thing with Avenger 3, I'm patiently waiting for the civil war storyline to occur.

Realistically speaking if Lego made Avenger mansion or Xavier's school it would come out bad. Especially since the Xavier's school wouldn't even have Cerebro since that's a huge room underground the mansion. Avengers mansion hasn't even been unveiled yet, from the Avengers movie the main base of headquarters was the Helicarrier and Tony Stark's penthouse and to have a Doctor Strange Mansion Marvel would have to make a movie to pus the character since Dr Strange is a really under the radar character. Same thing for the fantasticar since Fox owns the rights and the Reboot hasn't even released yet. UCS Asgard would be really difficult since it would require Lego basically making a new city. UCS Gotg sets are way too soon to happen since it depends on more of a sells thing if the public even likes the sets and the design of the ships.

However I do believe the possibility of UCS Blackbird would be really cool and possible. I would definitely buy, especially if it came with a UCS Nimrod or Master Mold Sentinel.

With all due respect, you are confusing a number of different things here.

First there are the "rights" to produce films -- which are indeed held by separate entities -- FOX holds X-Men and FF, Sony holds Spidey, Universal holds Namor and Marvel Studios (now part of Disney) has pretty much everything else. There is a nice infographic here on the topic: http://cdn.screenran...o-Ownership.jpg

However, just because one owns the film production rights doesn't mean that MARVEL / LEGO cannot produce products. Sometimes they do tie-in and this benefits both the film producers / distributors and the manufacturers -- hence you have tie-ins like GoTG, X-Men DoFP. But they can be mutually exclusive.

The Ultimate Spider-Man sets are a perfect example (these sets are based off of Disney XD's universe: Nova, Power Man, Iron Fist) and have absolutely nothing to do with Sony and Sony gets zero revenue from these sets. Heck, the MARVEL LEGO Super Heroes Videogame is another perfect example -- nearly every single MARVEL character ever produced of note appears in this game.

In other words, MARVEL LEGO typically do movie tie-ins because it makes commercial sense, there is momentum and awareness being marketed alongside the film. But MARVEL LEGO doesn't NEED for a film to happen first before they make a set -- they don't require permission to make products -- the film rights are simply that -- the rights to make films, they don't "own" the underlying content or characters, they have simply "rented" the right to make films, and even then it's not forever.

The content / characters is ultimately owned my MARVEL and they can make as many products based off of their figures as they wish.

Edited July 21, 2014 by agoodfella

[Sam892]

With all due respect, you are confusing a number of different things here.

First there are the "rights" to produce films -- which are indeed held by separate entities -- FOX has X-Men and FF, Sony has Spidey, Universal has Namor and Marvel Studios (now part of Disney) has pretty much everything else. There is a nice infographic here on the topic: http://cdn.screenran...o-Ownership.jpg

However, just because one owns the film production rights doesn't mean that MARVEL / LEGO cannot produce products. Sometimes they do tie-in and this benefits both the film producers / distributors and the manufacturers -- hence you have tie-ins like GoTG, X-Men DoFP. But they can be mutually exclusive.

The Ultimate Spider-Man sets are a perfect example (these sets are based off of Disney XD's universe: Nova, Power Man, Iron Fist) and have absolutely nothing to do with Sony and Sony gets zero revenue from these sets.

In other words, MARVEL LEGO typically do movie tie-ins because it makes commercial sense, there is momentum and awareness being marketed alongside the film. But MARVEL LEGO doesn't NEED for a film to happen first before they make a set -- they don't require permission to make products -- the film rights are simply that -- the rights to make films, they don't "own" the underlying content or characters, they have simply "rented" the right to make films, and even then it's . The content is ultimately owned my MARVEL and they can make as many products based off of their figures as they wish.

Marvel said a couple of days ago they have the rights to Namor. They said however if they were to make a Namor movie they would have to fulfil some old contract rights with a few studios who used to own the rights to him ( most likely a small percentage of the profit ). So while they said it's a little bit more complicated to make a Namor movie than it is Thor or Iron man, they can make one whenever they want.

Also does anyone know the UK price of the tumbler ? The more I see it, the more appealing it is, and I'm curious to find out which organs I need to sell to get it.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Sam892

[Kire]

With all due respect, you are confusing a number of different things here.

First there are the "rights" to produce films -- which are indeed held by separate entities -- FOX has X-Men and FF, Sony has Spidey, Universal has Namor and Marvel Studios (now part of Disney) has pretty much everything else. There is a nice infographic here on the topic: http://cdn.screenran...o-Ownership.jpg

However, just because one owns the film production rights doesn't mean that MARVEL / LEGO cannot produce products. Sometimes they do tie-in and this benefits both the film producers / distributors and the manufacturers -- hence you have tie-ins like GoTG, X-Men DoFP. But they can be mutually exclusive.

The Ultimate Spider-Man sets are a perfect example (these sets are based off of Disney XD's universe: Nova, Power Man, Iron Fist) and have absolutely nothing to do with Sony and Sony gets zero revenue from these sets.

In other words, MARVEL LEGO typically do movie tie-ins because it makes commercial sense, there is momentum and awareness being marketed alongside the film. But MARVEL LEGO doesn't NEED for a film to happen first before they make a set -- they don't require permission to make products -- the film rights are simply that -- the rights to make films, they don't "own" the underlying content or characters, they have simply "rented" the right to make films, and even then it's . The content is ultimately owned my MARVEL and they can make as many products based off of their figures as they wish.

I understand the rights to movies and how it works ad I'm familiar with the photo.

Commercially speaking it wouldn't make sense the Fantasticar to release anytime soon since the reboot hasn't even released likewise for a Dr Strange set. If a Dr Strange set would be released it would be based on the Ultimate Spider-man Cameos he frequently make and yes I know about the X-men "unofficial" Days of Future Past Set.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Kire

[WetWired]

Love it, especially the joker minifig, perhaps this is part of the reason my Tumbler didn't pass review on LEGO Ideas

[agoodfella77]

I understand the rights to movies and how it works ad I'm familiar with the photo.

Commercially speaking it wouldn't make sense the Fantasticar to release anytime soon since the reboot hasn't even released likewise for a Dr Strange set. If a Dr Strange set would be released it would be based on the Ultimate Spider-man Cameos he frequently make and yes I know about the X-men "unofficial" Days of Future Past Set.

This is what you wrote:

Doctor Strange Mansion Marvel would have to make a movie to pus the character since Dr Strange is a really under the radar character. Same thing for the fantasticar since Fox owns the rights and the Reboot hasn't even released yet.

So while you may understand the difference between holding the film rights vs. owning the content, that statement above belies a firm understanding of said concept not to mention that it is completely false. In fact, the whole crux of your previous post was that the films MUST somehow proceed (or provide the greenlight for) any future products related to these characters -- that it would violate some rule that a film must come before any related products -- that the film rights trump anything else. This is completely incorrect.

Fox does not own the rights to the Fantasticar. What they own is the right to portray the Fantasticar in a film they can produce about the Fantastic Four. Anyone who read your statement would be misled into thinking that Fox owns the rights to the Fantasticar, when in fact, such a statement is patently false. In the end, when we are talking about the ultimate end ownership of the content / characters, it is MARVEL that owns these rights. I am simply clarifying some misinformation.

Again, there is a difference between owning the content (MARVEL) vs. owning the right to make films (e.g. FOX or Sony) based on the content owned by another entity (MARVEL) vs. owning the rights to make merchandise (e.g. LEGO, Mega Bloks, Minimates) based on content owned by another entity (MARVEL or Star Wars for example).

Edited July 21, 2014 by agoodfella

[Kire]

This is what you wrote:

Doctor Strange Mansion Marvel would have to make a movie to pus the character since Dr Strange is a really under the radar character. Same thing for the fantasticar since Fox owns the rights and the Reboot hasn't even released yet.

So while you may understand the difference between holding the film rights vs. owning the content, that statement above belies a firm understanding of said concept not to mention that it is completely false. In fact, the whole crux of your previous post was that the films MUST somehow proceed (or provide the greenlight for) any future merchandising -- that it would violate some rule that related merchandise could somehow proceed a film. That the film rights trump anything else. This is completely incorrect.

Fox does not own the rights to the Fantasticar. Anyone who read that statement would be misled into thinking this is correct, when in fact, it is patently false. I am simply clarifying some misinformation.

Lego could release a fantasticar and then what! Hopefully it'll sell well, I'm saying it would make more sense to release Lego marvel sets alongside with movies (as they've been doing) and shows as Lego has been doing since it sells. If Lego decided to release Guardians of the Galaxy sets two years ago, how many people would actually buy them since they would be based on not the movie, but the comics. Not as many as compared to now since the movie tie in is soon to release. The reason I said a Doctor Strange movie would help is because there has been alot of talk with Kevin Feige who is the producer and president of marvel studios and is working on films such as Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, and the Dr Strange movie. So yes I am saying film merchandising sells because logically it sells merchandise and toys. Lego knows this, Marvel knows this, and of course Disney knows this. Edited July 21, 2014 by Kire

[wesker]

I'm kind of over the Tumbler but have to admit this looks like a fantastic set. And that Joker minifigure is too awesome for words.

[agoodfella77]

Lego could release a fantasticar and then what! Hopefully it'll sell well, I'm saying it would make more sense to release Lego marvel sets alongside with movies (as they've been doing) and shows as Lego has been doing since it sells. If Lego decided to release Guardians of the Galaxy sets two years ago, how many people would actually buy them since they would be based on not the movie, but the comics. Not as many as compared to now since the movie tie in is soon to release. The reason I said a Doctor Strange movie would help is because there has been alot of talk with Kevin Feige who is the producer and president of marvel studios and is working on films such as Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, and the Dr Strange movie. So yes I am saying film merchandising sells because logically it sells merchandise and toys. Lego knows this, Marvel knows this, and of course Disney knows this.

Um, I guess that is a long winded way of acknowledging what I wrote. Let's not move the goalposts here. I didn't say it makes sense for the Fantasticar to come out before a film about it. In fact, if anything I fully acknowledged that tie-ins make perfect commercial sense.

But that is neither here nor there. The point was to demonstrate that your statement about the "Fantasticar since Fox owns the rights" is completely and utterly false. That was my simple point, and it seems that my point has been made.

Btw, your backpedaling is absolutely fantastic!

Edited July 21, 2014 by agoodfella

[Kire]

Um, I guess that is a long winded way of acknowledging what I wrote. Let's not move the goalposts here. I didn't say it makes sense for the Fantasticar to come out before a film about it. In fact, if anything I fully acknowledged that tie-ins make perfect commercial sense.

But that is neither here nor there. The point was to demonstrate that your statement about the "Fantasticar since Fox owns the rights" is completely and utterly false. That was my simple point, and it seems that my point has been made.

Btw, your backpedaling is absolutely fantastic!

The issue of "Fantasticar since Fox owns the rights" was avoided since you proved it false and I accepted it. If you want your fantasticar you can expect it for the Summer wave of Lego sets since the film is set to release Summer 2015.

[Moon_Knight]

The issue of "Fantasticar since Fox owns the rights" was avoided since you proved it false and I accepted it. If you want your fantasticar you can expect it for the Summer wave of Lego sets since the film is set to release Summer 2015.

I doubt it. I don't think Marvel would allow a Fantasticar since they don't want anybody to know the Fantastic Four even exists. This is old news though.

Fantastic Tumbler!

[WhiteFang]

I am officially sold out on this. This could be my very first UCS LEGO model ever! Thank you just2good for sharing.

[just2good]

I am officially sold out on this. This could be my very first UCS LEGO model ever! Thank you just2good for sharing.

My pleasure! When you get it, I'd love to see a review from you!

[agoodfella77]

The issue of "Fantasticar since Fox owns the rights" was avoided since you proved it false and I accepted it.

Fair enough. Let's move on.

Yeah, no possibilities for a UCS Marvel set is a ridiculous statement.

@agoodfella - Love the idea of a UCS Odin's Throne Room.

I'd love to see a cinematic take on the Civil War too but not with only a handful of superheroes in the universe.

Yes, on both accounts.

It's a real shame that a cinematic version of Civil War will not be coming to the silver screen anytime soon...

[Brickmamba]

Have been longing for TLC to rerelease the old batman tumbler set and now with a UCS version and a Christo style Joker one can not be any happier, can't wait

[TheLegGodt]

Not especially a fan of DC or the Dark Knight movies (I prefer Tim Burton's tske) but this will be day 1 puschase for me based on the quality of the set. I reallly like the UCS sets LEGO make and this one i was hoping to see come out one day!

Never would have guessed those mififigs would be so valuable but it adds to the appeal of a collectors' item.

Did i read somewhere we are to expect a 1960s Batmobile as well? Can't wait for that one either! Will it be a UCS?