Super Heroes 2014 Rumors & Discussion

[SMC]

All of LEGO Super Heroes is nonsense. All it is are stupid vehicles to sell a new super hero mini figure. Why is Aquaman in the arctic with Batman? Why is Batman in white driving a black ski car on ice?

I have to say I did wonder why white batman has a black what ever that is, it could gave been white too.

[DJ Bricks]

I have to say I did wonder why white batman has a black what ever that is, it could gave been white too.

Its the Batboat, is was to match the other Bat vehicles. The white suit is part of one of B-Man's contingencies plans.

[montgocloud]

Lastly there's no need to include lots of police vehicles in a superheroes set, they already have a whole City line. If a police car or Van was included in a Spidey set, every one would get that and on one would get any of the City police stuff.

I didn't even think of that to be completely honest. That's a really good point---But if it has to be that way, I wish that there at least could be a more diverse selection of these vehicles. I know the reason there aren't though: Spidey sells.

All of LEGO Super Heroes is nonsense. All it is are stupid vehicles to sell a new super hero mini figure. Why is Aquaman in the arctic with Batman? Why is Batman in white driving a black ski car on ice?

Well I guess they're doing something right seeming that I've collected all the sets thus far... But you're right, my purchases are mainly based on the minifigures and a nice build is an added bonus. I have to say though, in my opinion the Superheroes line has featured a lot of surprisingly satisfying builds!

[strangely]

All of LEGO Super Heroes is nonsense. All it is are stupid vehicles to sell a new super hero mini figure. Why is Aquaman in the arctic with Batman? Why is Batman in white driving a black ski car on ice?

Well, you're right that the sets are basically just to sell minifigures. Also they're not in the Arctic, they're in the Gotham harbor, you can even see Gotham in the box art. Also the Arctic Batman suit I believe is from the comics, I think it's supposed to protect him from the cold (He's has a rainbow filled closet of bat suits, so it's not as if it came out of nowhere). As for Aquaman I can't help but notice they're on the ocean, so reasonably the oceans savior should probably lend a hand before Mr. Freeze freezes it solid. And the vehicle is the bat boat with skis added so that it can traverse both water and ice.

I'm not thrilled with the amount of vehicles we get either, but admittedly there's source material there for pretty much all of them. Even Spider-man's trike was in the comics. And it's not up to Lego to chose what's in a set. DC and Marvel choose how their characters are represented in toy form and the excessive vehicles can be found in the action figure section of their merchandising too. Admittedly it's a lot easier to hand a kid a car and say "Batman rides around in this." With locations you have to rely on them knowing what it represents, which is why when we do get location based stuff it's a lot of the time overly generic. These products are after all designed for kid's with a basic knowledge of Batman so in the end the concept for the sets we get are streamlined and easy to understand.

[Crissmonster]

Everything's on here!

-Sci

Thanks for this find!

[Crissmonster]

I would like to see fewer vehicles and more buildings, labs, secret lairs, streets scenes. The Daily Bugle build was great!

[RelicRaider]

I do like to see buildings a lot more than vehicles. That 2012 Batcave is my favourite Superheroes set.

Edited November 2, 2013 by RelicRaider

[Infernum]

Honestly, I've never bought a super heroes set, and the Spidey junior set might be my first. . I want that Venom.

[JVM]

CM4S, thank you for the lovely art. Both sets excite me much more than the Spidey ones do - nice to see some more villain vehicles and the Hulk Lab looks like a great proper setpiece!

Your forgetting the golden rule of LEGO, its made mainly for kids. That's why Spidey has Vehicles because Kids want cool sets and don't care about who owns what. Also no kid is going to want all the Spidey sets if it included a Villain with Vehicle, and just a Spidey Minifigure. In the Show whenever Spidey has been given a Vehicle there's a reason behind it aswell.

Lastly there's no need to include lots of police vehicles in a superheroes set, they already have a whole City line. If a police car or Van was included in a Spidey set, every one would get that and on one would get any of the City police stuff.

I respectfully disagree to an extent - I don't think a lot of kids will complain about the lack of a character-specific vehicle so much as not getting one at all. Batman needs a Batmobile sure, but has anyone been asking for a Batcopter obsessively? Kids do want vehicles, but I'm sure plenty of kids would buy a set if it was a vehicle villain or a well-designed location, without necessarily a Bat-vehicle or Spider-vehicle.

You bring up an interesting point on the police sets. I really don't think a cruiser here or there would make a big difference, but that is a good reason why it's not done extensively.

[Colossus]

All of LEGO Super Heroes is nonsense. All it is are stupid vehicles to sell a new super hero mini figure. Why is Aquaman in the arctic with Batman? Why is Batman in white driving a black ski car on ice?

I have it on good authority that Batman only works in black...

...and sometimes very, very dark grey.

[dviddy]

I respectfully disagree to an extent - I don't think a lot of kids will complain about the lack of a character-specific vehicle so much as not getting one at all. Batman needs a Batmobile sure, but has anyone been asking for a Batcopter obsessively? Kids do want vehicles, but I'm sure plenty of kids would buy a set if it was a vehicle villain or a well-designed location, without necessarily a Bat-vehicle or Spider-vehicle.

That TLG, Marvel, DC, Disney, Warner Brothers, etc, don't produce many setting and location sets or toys with the billions of dollars they pump into market research, test and focus groups, and whatnot, should tell you otherwise. Companies want to maximize their profits- if their research said "plenty of kids would buy a set if it was a well-designed location" you'd see more location sets. Clearly the play patterns we as adults had as kids and the things we like now (setting sets since most of us who buy sets for the actual set [versus when I buy a set for the parts for a MOC] are displaying them, not playing with them) are different than current play patterns. Remember that kids are going to play with these 99% of the time- not set them on a shelf to look cool.

[Colossus]

I do like to see buildings a lot more than vehicles. That Batcave is my favourite Superheroes set.

The vehicles can be cool if they don't oversaturate the set count. My kids actually get more play out of the modular type sets, like the Haunted House and Winter Village sets. I'm pretty excited to see the Junior sets for my 4 yo. He loves Venom. BTW, are these initial Junior sets like a trial run to see how well these sets will sell for this age demographic? I think my son will like the Junior sets more than the Duplo that he has bc Junior sets are compatible with my stuff and his older sister's sets. Based on his reaction, I'd like to see more of this type of set in the future, even with other themes besides Super Heroes.

[The Joker1]

As much as i would like more base sets Lego have proved they are incapable of doing them properly, The batcave is 100% worse than the old one and is little more than big ugly pieces and bases, The helicarrier breakout made poor use of space and still ended up costing £50 and the bugle, Well thats ok.

Anyway onto man bat. Though the design is ok i feel those wings are absurdly small. Just look at the classic man bat image.

I have made this one to try out some larger wings, I feel wings like this, Along with the werewolves legs and the new man bats Head/ears would look pretty good.

Edited November 1, 2013 by The Joker1

[Repeter]

Yeah, I don't really trust TLG's market research. They are beholden to a set of standards they have always put on themselves and none of us really know the motives behind the saturation of vehicles over locations, in the super hero lines. I do know that I have a ton of nieces, nephews and friends my age with kids. Almost to a tee, they build themselves bases and forts to play on/in. The older kids love the sets like Joker's Funhouse and the Lone Ranger silver mine (I watched them have a sweet fight between the Avengers and the TMNT on it).

I would also point out that AFOLs spend lots and lots of $$ on LEGO. I hope TLG realizes that the super hero lines could be a particular cash cow from the AFOL crowd...so far, the 2014 line up looks like they haven't yet.

[Cammo]

For those who want to make a Coulson: just buy this set and replace the robohead with a fleshie head:

[Repeter]

What the heck is that?!?! Without even knowing, I'd buy about five sets of it...

Edited November 1, 2013 by Repeter

[Cammo]

What the heck is that?!?!

It's a set from the LEGO movie.

[SMC]

I have it on good authority that Batman only works in black...

...and sometimes very, very dark grey.

I was thinking to same thing when I was posting wondering why it was black

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

I'm not thrilled with the amount of vehicles we get either, but admittedly there's source material there for pretty much all of them. Even Spider-man's trike was in the comics. And it's not up to Lego to chose what's in a set. DC and Marvel choose how their characters are represented in toy form and the excessive vehicles can be found in the action figure section of their merchandising too. Admittedly it's a lot easier to hand a kid a car and say "Batman rides around in this."

"Here is a store, some guy robs it and Batman wants to kick their teeth in."

How is that more complex?

A friend found this on ebay. I'll have to look for the link though.

Edit: http://www.ebay.com/...=item3386ff9406

You know, this is very lazy but also exactly how I envisioned this fig, so I have no reason to complain about it.

On the other hand, it´s nice to know he is identical with the Monster Fighter bat people so I don´t have to buy a crappy helicopter set without my Nightwing. The only difference is that Man-Bat has tan hairs, has an open mouth and pants while the bat people are dark tan haired, have closed moths, a slightly different pattern and brown legs.

Your forgetting the golden rule of LEGO, its made mainly for kids. That's why Spidey has Vehicles because Kids want cool sets and don't care about who owns what.

But I was a kid at some point in my life and found stuff like that dumb. Spider-Mans thing is that he is webslinging across New York. He doesn´t need bikes, cars and choppers for that.

I don´t care that the show is saying Spider-Man pays 80 bucks for webs on his way to school or whatever it was exactly, they just want to justify the retarded vehicles Hasbro is trying to sell. They really go out of their way to even make the stuff believable. Without Shield the constantly broke highschool student Parker couldn´t afford this stuff.

Also no kid is going to want all the Spidey sets if it included a Villain with Vehicle, and just a Spidey Minifigure.

"Baaaaww mommy I don´t want Venoms Symbionte Truck with honking-feature, it´s so dark and frightens me with it´s sharp toothed smily face on the hood! :P to you, evil Venom and your evil car!"

???

Don´t know how many psychological problems I have compared to the average person but I always thought everyone finds the villains cooler?

It would be easier to justify vehicles for at least some villains and even when they have to make them up it would offer more possibilities with fun weapons of mass destruction like tanks and giant robot suits, all in more colors than red and blue.

And the toys for Spider-Man 1 and 2 were just Spidey, a villains and city vehicles. It wasn´t that great since none of the stuff was compatible with City vehicles but hey, it still sold pretty good as far as I remember.

For those who want to make a Coulson: just buy this set and replace the robohead with a fleshie head:

Wow, thanks bud-

http://www.bricklink...0&srtAsc=A&ov=Y

Oh.

http://www.bricklink...=suit black tie

Oooh...

Nope, I disagree. Google 'Agent Coulson' and bask in the large number of images which depict him with a closed coat.

Either he stands there cross-armed giving the impression it´s closed when he is actually just pressing his blazer together or they are bad toys, posters and publicity shots. He maybe has it closed at some point in some film (I think he went with a closed jacket for most of IM1) but his open jacket is much more prevalent.

I'm not saying it would be perfect (for instance, I'd like the coat to have his ID badge on it), but a perfectly acceptable purist custom is easily attainable right now. I would just rather have LEGO make a new superhero with great, iconic printing than some dude in a suit jacket. Either way, it's a negligible point, since we are mostly getting a bunch of Spidermans.

I know, but I would have expected an open black suit with black tie for years now, not necessarily in Superheroes sets but in any of the other lines that could include one like City, CMFs and the occasional summer movie license.

Edited November 1, 2013 by Navy Trooper Fenson

[Bricknblue]

I have it on good authority that Batman only works in black...

...and sometimes very, very dark grey.

If they make a sequel I hope Batman is in white and someone makes a joke.

The reason we don't get labs and buildings is the same we get 100 cops sets a year with no city buildings.

Boys want vehicles, it's why all the action themes are now 90% vehicles and even the buildings have vehicles. The City museum set has a tiny building and several vehicles for boys to play with.

It's why Friends has buildings, girls play doll house.

It's a shame because my favorite Super Hero set is the Spiderman one with the office building he works at. Great price, great mini figures, fun building with lots of features.

[KingPixels]

For those who want to make a Coulson: just buy this set and replace the robohead with a fleshie head:

That hair has been around for a long time. I was hoping you'd found it in brown. That would be perfect for Coulson.

[dviddy]

I would also point out that AFOLs spend lots and lots of $$ on LEGO. I hope TLG realizes that the super hero lines could be a particular cash cow from the AFOL crowd...so far, the 2014 line up looks like they haven't yet.

AFOLs make up less than 5% of global LEGO sales. It's enough to be important (which is why TLG has an entire department for adult fan interactions, where KimT and Kevin Hinkle work). But not enough to influence set design. If you want TLG to make more bases, convince German boys (TLG's number one market) that this is what they want. Anecdotal evidence from how "all the kids you know want bases" is not going to get that done. :/

[SlimShady]

And here they are, two fresh, big pictures of 2014 DC sets. I like both sets and will probably buy both!

Figs are just awesome!

Edited November 2, 2013 by SlimShady

[Cammo]

Nice. It looks like penguin has a new torso with his iconic furcoat. Nice!

[wesker]

Thanks for the pics. I like the look of Batman's helicopter although Nightwing's glider is pretty lame. Nice to see we're also getting a brand new version of the Penguin.