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but don't you get it, if yellow is white then every non licence set only has white people in, if yellow is generic and without race then they are not white only and this is something lego said they would never do, if Vitruvius is licenced so non yellow then so should emmet

People please! Let it go. It's just a movie!

I think CMF series 2 fig the Disco Guy is a prime example of a yellow fig that could easily be a number of races, however I do agree that figs primarily portray a white stereotype. As for Vitruvius, who knows, but I'm glad they did it.

Me too.

Anyways, the Sea Cow looks awesome!

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I've always thought that the yellow was intended to be a neutral color, so that it wouldn't start arguments like this in the first place... :wink: (<--)

Ya see? This is why I told y'all to get the Cuckoo Palace before the movie hit!

One of the best sets in the entire wave.

Lucky for us who did buy it! :smug:

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Yellow is still generic in pretty much every Lego theme. Vitruvius doesn't change that. For all we know, in the movie Vitruvius is a custom fig owned by The Man Upstairs (which wouldn't have to abide by Lego's rules of fleshies vs. yellows). Anyway, regardless of why Vitruvius isn't yellow, it's not like the design of Vitruvius retroactively affects all past and future figs.

Personally, my first impression of Vitruvius was that he was somehow a "suntanned" minifig (since his skin color, Medium Nougat, is often used for shading on yellow-skinned figs these days). That turned out to not be evidenced by the movie itself, so I decided to stop overthinking it and just accept that Vitruvius and Batman were fleshies and Emmet, Wyldstyle, and President Business weren't.

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The Vetruvius thing could be just as simple as a character with a white robe and white hair with a yellow face wouldn't be very striking on screen.

But to be honest, more diversity is better, so I'm glad he was neither yellow or white.

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Was Han solo beige in the movie? If so, then... that's good :classic: That'd show that at least LEGO makes an (half-hearted, in my opinion) effort to separate yellow LEGO people to white real people. I'd like to believe having a bunch of yellow characters next to a medium nougat characters won't make black people feel excluded in general to the movie or LEGO in general, but honestly I don't. :hmpf_bad:

EDIT: Flesh-coloured is a very bad term since... well it assumes flesh is beige-coloured (like in white people)

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Flesh-coloured is a fine term as if the real person is white the fig is white if the real person is black the fig is black, yellow figs should be generic or we should not have yellow at all.

In the Lego movie the non licensed figs should all be yellow or all be flesh coloured

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Lego is just a toy! Whether or not Figs should be black,blue, white, yellow, or red, that doesn't matter. IT. IS JUST. A TOY!

Now if we can get back to actual sets, that would be great.

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The Sea Cow does fit into a theme of its own — It fits into the LEGO Movie theme. That was what GregoryBrick was talking about.

With how wildly successful The LEGO Movie has been, it shouldn't be any surprise that there's going to be a significant segment of the general LEGO-buying population buying it specifically for its role in the movie and not because they intend to integrate it into a more "traditional" theme. Some of the LEGO Movie sets, particularly the 2-in-1 sets, can be integrated into other themes with very little difficulty, but there's no reason to think that they all have to. One of the sets that seems to have sold like hotcakes, Cloud Cuckoo Palace, doesn't really fit into ANY other LEGO theme past or present. There's never been a theme with those kinds of "candy-land" visuals.

I have cloud cuckoo palace in my winter wonderland scene(winter carnival) for my twins birthday party. It was a hit.

I often take a variety of sets from different themes and put them together into a scene for a mantel. Other than Star Wars and TLoR/The Hobbit, I usually pick up sets that fit into that context. I've always thought the best part of the lego movie sets were their eclectic nature that would easily allow them to fit into a variety type of displays. But then again my displays are not traditional and are geared more towards making children happy.

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Flesh-coloured is a fine term as if the real person is white the fig is white if the real person is black the fig is black, yellow figs should be generic or we should not have yellow at all.

thats true :classic:

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but does that now mean yellow is white? I think its a bad mistake not to have them all yellow

Nope because Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman etc were all fleshies, so if you apply that sort of logic consistently to the entire movie then yellow is just yellow. It can't represent "white" people. Lego genius if you ask me. :classic:

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Arguments over minifigure "race" need to stop now.

This is a subject that was talked to death before and will not be repeated here, especially if this results in bickering. "Fleshie" is a term that normally refers to the non-yellow-skinned minifigures found in Licensed sets. Taking the term as insulting to incite a flame war will not be tolerated.

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Thank goodness. :hmpf::thumbup:

Anyway, I think that this has been discussed before, but what audience is the Sea Cow supposed to appeal to? That's a terrible wording, since who doesn't it appeal to ( :wink: ), but most people can't pull $250+ out of their pocket on a regular day, and since TLM is generally geared toward a younger audience, how do you think Lego will make a profit off this set?

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Anyway, I think that this has been discussed before, but what audience is the Sea Cow supposed to appeal to? That's a terrible wording, since who doesn't it appeal to ( :wink: ), but most people can't pull $250+ out of their pocket on a regular day, and since TLM is generally geared toward a younger audience, how do you think Lego will make a profit off this set?

The Sea Cow is a D2C set, and D2C sets are primarily meant for older teen/adult builders and collectors. The same case is seen with The Simpsons House. It's not a wide-release retail set in any way.

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I watched that play out at the store today. kid and his mom are looking over the movie sets. The kid clearly wants the Sea Cow, and mom looked pretty pained when she saw the price. They both liked the Metalbeard character, and she looked like she was trying to think of a way to tell the kid no when she spotted the Metalbeard's Duel set. Sea Cow went back on the shelf, and they walked out with the smaller set and a couple of CMF.

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I imagine the Sea Cow is aimed at adult fans of the film (like my wife and I, hopefully getting ours today) and I think the film has universal appeal enough to support that- i know plenty of non-afol adults without kids who have seen or will see it.

The key is simply whether theyve produced the right level of stock for the segment of customers who will buy it!

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July

:P

-ish.

TRU should be getting them mid to late June, whereas Lego Stores will be getting them in by mid July. Most other retailer are subject to their own discretion or are subject to a labeled street date (usually mid-August, but again, it's to their own discretion).

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I just finished trying to arrange all the lego movie sets on various shelves for temporary display. Most areas I have for display are roughly 1x3 feet, so I have to decide what to put with what. I have all the Battle of Bricksburg citizen ships together, all the micro managers + evil lair + melting chamber together, cycle chase by itself, and seacow + cloud cuckoo + glider on a dresser. That last one being the ones that didn't fit in with anything else.

Then there's the bad cop pursuit. Does anyone else feel that this set is a bit on the unneccessary side? Obviously I'm glad they made BC's vehicle, but I think that they should have made the vehicle and Cloud Cuckoo land into one 30 or 40 dollar set. The bridge part is silly, and I'm having a heard time fitting it into my display.

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I just finished trying to arrange all the lego movie sets on various shelves for temporary display. Most areas I have for display are roughly 1x3 feet, so I have to decide what to put with what. I have all the Battle of Bricksburg citizen ships together, all the micro managers + evil lair + melting chamber together, cycle chase by itself, and seacow + cloud cuckoo + glider on a dresser. That last one being the ones that didn't fit in with anything else.

Then there's the bad cop pursuit. Does anyone else feel that this set is a bit on the unneccessary side? Obviously I'm glad they made BC's vehicle, but I think that they should have made the vehicle and Cloud Cuckoo land into one 30 or 40 dollar set. The bridge part is silly, and I'm having a heard time fitting it into my display.

Bad Cop's Pursuit and Cloud Cuckoo Palace absolutely should NOT have been made into a single set. Cloud Cuckoo Palace is the only set at the $20 price-point, and has sold gangbusters as a result (selling out at a number of retailers as well as Lego.com). $40 sets are a much harder sell, and there are already tons of Lego Movie sets at the $30 price point that your proposed set would suddenly be in direct competition with. So while it might suit AFOLs like you or me if Lego were to bundle sets together, it's horrible business for appealing to the mass market.

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