Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Am I the only one who is desperately hoping for a light grey version of either the Ep 3 Obi-Wan hair or the new Dooku hair to be used for the updated Ben? The plain classic LEGO hair seems out of style for these updated figs. Especially Han. LEGO needs to do something there. EDIT: Also, I'm not sure if all the sets are up on all of the LEGO Star Wars sites, but they are for the US, and it seems like the Han in the Falcon Microfighter is completely new, except for the hair. http://cache.lego.com/r/www/r/starwars/-/media/franchises/lego%20starwars/products/75030/prod_minifig_main_retina_1224x688_75030.jpg?l.r=411004456 Heres a link to the rest of the products page on the site. Lots of goodies to see. http://www.lego.com/en-us/starwars/products Sorry if this is old news. Edited January 13, 2014 by Fives Quote
Super Brick Collector Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I don't get why people are commenting on 'ohh I don't like this aspect of this particular set' or 'that bit doesn't look right' or 'it doesn't look like it does this or it can do this or it looks exactly the same'. Since when was http://i.imgur.com/02FuUVq.jpg exactly the same as http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Utapau-Troopers-75036?fromListing=listing?? They're prelims. Wait until official pictures start coming out before you start criticising Every year it's the samething. I wait for official pics to judge the final product. Quote
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Every year it's the samething. I wait for official pics to judge the final product. I'm most excited to see what change they've made to the Rodian head; what warranted LEGO to use such a random placeholder piece? Perhaps Greedo will be able to turn his head without his snout being bellow his neckline. Quote
Phoenix__Phyre Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Am I the only one who is desperately hoping for a light grey version of either the Ep 3 Obi-Wan hair or the new Dooku hair to be used for the updated Ben? The plain classic LEGO hair seems out of style for these updated figs. Especially Han. LEGO needs to do something there. You're not the only one Fives. Seeing as Ewan McGregor's hair was stylized in Ep. III to match Alec Guiness's hair in Ep. IV then it makes sense that there LEGO variants have the same hair as well. I'm pretty sure that General Rieekan had Obi-Wan's hair but in dark grey so I'm sure that the LEGO company could make the piece in light bluish grey. Also with all of the Jedi having robe printing on there legs on all of the recent figures I hope they do something with Obi-Wan's legs as well to update his figure from 2011. I'm most excited to see what change they've made to the Rodian head; what warranted LEGO to use such a random placeholder piece? Perhaps Greedo will be able to turn his head without his snout being bellow his neckline. I'm thinking that Greedo will probably have a new head as it doesn't make sense for him to not have a Rodian head in the Prelims when those pieces already exist. In the preliminary pictures of 2012's 9516 Jabba's Palace, Oola had Aayla Secura's head as a placeholder as both are Twi'leks. Maybe the LEGO company is updating the existing Rodian Head mould and doesn't want to give anything away. Edited January 13, 2014 by Phoenix__Phyre Quote
Artanis I Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Utapau Troopers & Grievous Wheel sets are already out of stock on S@H... I like it You like what? Quote
Ki-Adi-Mundi Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I don't get why people are commenting on 'ohh I don't like this aspect of this particular set' or 'that bit doesn't look right' or 'it doesn't look like it does this or it can do this or it looks exactly the same'. Since when was http://i.imgur.com/02FuUVq.jpg exactly the same as http://shop.lego.com...Listing=listing?? They're prelims. Wait until official pictures start coming out before you start criticising I gladly explain it to you: As with every wave, prelim pics get leaked (be it on purpose or not - TLG knows well that this cannot be avoided entirely... ). It may be a surprise to you but interested customers tend to discuss about what they see and expect from a set. Since the prelims are only prelims - the reception of the anticipated sets might still have impact whether there will be changes on design/set composition etc. pp. We know that TLG employees visit these pages sometimes - at least some staff member will report some summary to the community managers. Long story short: Yes, i feel free to express my thoughts and Yes, i wish to comment on what i like or not. Quote
Legoman123 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 In the cantina people think we are getting eight minifigures because that is the amount that can be seen in the preliminary image. But actually thinking about it, it makes more sense to get ten minifigures. The eight in the preliminary + the two mystery ones. That way we could get... Han, Luke, Obi Wan, a Sandtrooper, Greedo, Ponda Baba, Wuhrer, Dr. Evazan and two Bith band members. Quote
Steph 104th Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 They should give us fifteen seing as it is the 15th anniversery of Lego Star Wars sadly i doubt that will come true Quote
Spyderlord Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Nope, Greedo isn't a "new" minifig; he was included in the previous rendition of the Mos Eisley Cantina. He is also present in the picture: He's the blue bodied guy next to Han. I guess there's some room for argument, but the headbumps on that fig look pretty darn Rodian to me. So the third Squidward has to be a different character. To put it another way, we know the set has 8 figures. From the picture, we can see: 1. Luke 2. Han 3. Greedo 4. Stormtrooper 5. Squidward 1 6. Squidward 2 7. Squidward 3 8. Not pictured. So four are known, and four are unknown. We know that one of these unknowns has to be Obi-Wan. He COULD be one of the Squidwards, but I think it is unlikely because a) they have other versions of the character they could be using as a preliminary, and b) there's no reason to give a human character an alien head. So I am guessing Obi-Wan is figure 8, not pictured. This makes even more sense when you ask yourself "Who is driving the Landspeeder?" So that means we have 3 squidward heads that represent two different minifigures. As I said above, the fact that we get two identical "new" characters implies the likely idea they are Bith, or the rather unlikely idea that they are the Tonnika sisters (I don't think there are any other characters with which a pair would make sense except for Jawas, but they are not "new" figures). My initial thought for the third character would be Wuher the Bartender, but as a humanoid a preliminary Squidward head wouldn't make sense for him. Cool, so that confirms that there is a third Squidward, Obiwan is the missing 8th figure, and that there is a bar. The fact that the bar has so much space behind the counter makes Wuher seem the most likely choice for a second "new fig"; obviously the counter was designed to have somebody behind it, and he's the only one that would make sense. (Though why use a squidward head for a human figure?) Ponda Baba remains a close second, since Lego loves to include conflict in their sets. This also confirms for me that the Cantina won't be modular like Jabba's palace was; if they already include Han's booth, the bar, and the droid scanner in this set, what could they possibly use to make a second attachment set? Let's keep our fingers crossed that we'll get more Cantina denizens as extra figs in other tatooine related sets, similar to how the A-Wing, Y-Wing, X-Wing and Tie Fighter came with figs that didn't necessarily fit inside those ships. I am even more convinced now that Wuhur, Evezan and Ponda are the three Squids :/ You too Spyderlord? Maybe they can do a Bith battle pack addition for Winter 2015??? It'd make as much sense if not more than the Guard/Gunners effort this year :p So the speeder is mostly red and there's definitely Ben sitting in it... the bar itself seems OK and can be easily extended so resemble MOCs of the Cantina. As much as I was really excited about having Bith band members I'm slightly more convinced that they're just placed there as holders and not as three figures of the same kind... as obvious as that seems. I really like my original Greedo and think it holds up to the current figure designs... if they take the same level of details they're doing now it should be a fantastic figure. The description on the previous site link kind of points to Ponda Baba being the point of conflict with Ben and Luke and Greedo with Han. Whether it's Dr Evazan, Wuher or Bith I don't think we lose out either way. With having an Ithorian head available adding Momaw Nadon is simple, Jawas are available... Lav Sivrak and BoShek can be made quite easily... let's just wait and see! Good observation. Looking at the photo again it seems we are just assuming that the '2 new figs' text belongs to the cantina, when it could more likely be part of the 75051 Jek-14 set. Which means the three Squidward placeholders could either be 3 Bith Musicians, or 3 entirely new figures. I don't even see where these slide-out floors are? I just see a plate, nothing under them or something. Furthermore, if the 3 squidheads not going to be Bith musicians (and that's likely since there's no good spot for them someone pointed out earlier) i hope they will make an add-on with Bith musicians, just like i once designed in a cuusoo-project http://lego.cuusoo.c...deas/view/31773 Thank you very much for the links and the picture! ISD: The ISD seems to be smaller than the version from 2006. Am I wrong or is the bridge to small to fit a minifigure? Cantina: The alien on the left side of the already known picture is the same like the one on the right side of the newer picture. And even the set description on kiddiwinks says that there will be only 2 band members. But I fear that there won't be a barkeeper (at least I can't detect one behind the bar). Klaus-Dieter Looking at the preliminary pictures of the 2014 Winter sets (I live in the Southern Hemisphere) I'm really looking forward to 75052 Mos Eisley Cantina. I already have the Landspeeder from 2010 but the new one looks like it has some updates which could be really neat to see in the official images. Looking at the pictures I think that the set is supposed to fold up with the bar area in the center but I could be wrong. Also we know for certain that we are getting 8 figures, 3 of which are Obi-Wan Kenobi, Han Solo and Luke Skywalker. In the prelims we can see 5 other figures, a Stormtrooper on the Dewback, a poorly made stand in minifigure walking towards Han who could be Greedo, and 3 other figures with Squidward heads. Under the image it says there are 2 new figures with out any images. They could be two Bith Musicians that people are saying are 2 of the figures with Squidward heads, but why are there 3 mysterious figures with Squidward heads? Any Bith minifigures would be new as they have never been made before. Also lots of people are wanting a Ponda Baba, Dr. Evazan and Wuher minifigure. If those 3 were to be incorporated into the set then there would be no Bith figures, but why would the Prelims all have the same head and there be only 2 new figures? I think that Obi-Wan, Luke, Han, Stormtrooper and quite possibly Greedo are certain. In the set description it is mentioned that there is going to be a Droid Scanner. Why have a Droid Scanner if there are no Droids? C-3PO could be included as a new figure because the image of the promotional TC-4 shows him with leg printing. So far no 3PO figures have leg printing. This could be an added feature that makes him a new figure. Also having two Bith Musicians makes sense as there is a small open area next to Han's booth in the set. This could be there platform that they perform on. Also if there is a Bar why not have a bartender? Then they should have Wuher. Also If Luke and Obi-wan need Weapons then there should be a Ponda Baba figure and Dr Evazan. I could be totally wrong but this is just what I have thought about reading everyone's comments and seeing the pictures for myself. My end conclusion is that the three mysterious unknown figures are either - Wuher, Dr Evazan and Ponda Baba or - 2 Bith Musicians and one of the above mentioned figures or C-3PO As a side note a lot of figures that have been updated or released in the past few years usually come with leg printing, back printing and dual heads. These features could be added to the Obi-Wan and Luke figures which haven't been released since 2011 I believe. I gladly explain it to you: As with every wave, prelim pics get leaked (be it on purpose or not - TLG knows well that this cannot be avoided entirely... ). It may be a surprise to you but interested customers tend to discuss about what they see and expect from a set. Since the prelims are only prelims - the reception of the anticipated sets might still have impact whether there will be changes on design/set composition etc. pp. We know that TLG employees visit these pages sometimes - at least some staff member will report some summary to the community managers. Long story short: Yes, i feel free to express my thoughts and Yes, i wish to comment on what i like or not. In the cantina people think we are getting eight minifigures because that is the amount that can be seen in the preliminary image. But actually thinking about it, it makes more sense to get ten minifigures. The eight in the preliminary + the two mystery ones. That way we could get... Han, Luke, Obi Wan, a Sandtrooper, Greedo, Ponda Baba, Wuhrer, Dr. Evazan and two Bith band members. Wow, I'm out of it for a little while (and everyone gets... ) and the forum is spammed So let's go slowly, one by one. @Jindianajonz: Given the new pic of the cantina, things are way clearer, at least in my head. First, Greedo IS a new minifigure, because TLG always releases the "new minifigure" label whenever they change a print, let alone a mold, regardless of the fact if that figure had a pre-existant version. So, yes, you see well, the figure is a Rhodian all the way and it's a no brainer that's Greedo. One new minifigure slot occupied. It is my firm belief (much to my own dissapointment) that the second slot goes to Bith mold (x3 which is surprising, yet understandable, you need a BAND not a solo or a duet...) Good bye Ponda Baba. In the best of best of best of cases we'll get him one day with a revamped T-16 Grasshoppers or something like that as you suggested (a similar WTF? as Ceremonial Leia with the Y-Wing). Concordantly, no Wuher either, but there, no loss, he's by far the most easily customizable figure possible. @d-delay: No, sadly, I'll have to alter my initial estimate, I believe as said above that we are headed towards Biths all the way, and though happy for the new mold, I will sorely miss Ponda Baba @Robianco: Yes, I agree, we were led to believe by the description revealed that Ben will need his lightsaber, sadly, given what I said above, I think we are headed towards the musicians. It appears the dismemberment is a little too much for Disney-owned Star Wars licence. I just hope this is not a premonition of policies to come... @Brick Fiend: "2 new minifigures" label DO belong to the Cantina description, the only two sets on the page are a set from The Yoda Chronicles (inscription is visible above the Cantina set) and Cantina itself. TYC set features only known minifigures as we can see the right edge of the paper on the right of the 75051 minifigs. @Borex: Of course there is a good spot for the Biths, the booth to the left of Han's is empty and longing for some love @Klaus-Dieter: The description on kiddiwinks made no mention whatsoever of the band musicians, it was an unfounded rumor started on Hothbricks that was presented as fact since, despite my earnest efforts to warn people against taking it as such. @Phoenix_Phyre: You make all the valid points (save for the 3PO, I also have a feeling the new print is on its way after TC-4, but there won't be any droids in the Cantina), it was the same kind of reasoning I used to have before seeing the second picture and the third Squidward. That kinda made me change my mind about Wuher and Ponda Baba (see above) I think there would be no new features on Obi-Wan or Luke, for TLG would put a "new minifigure" label if they were having a new print. @Ki-Adi-Mundi: I sign every word @Legoman123: Our kind of "sense" and TLG's one often greatly differ Eight figures are a confirmed thing if they put it in the description, and mind you, it's already pushing it big time for its price range. Puh, done Quote
d-delay Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I still think the +2 mystery minifig mention is only in reference to what is shown on the actual page and has nothing to do with the placeholders. For all we know there are 6 figs mentioned to the left that we can't see INCLUDING Greedo and one of Wuhur/Evazen/Ponda, and thus the extra two referred to could easily be the other two of that trio. In fact, if they are playing up the mystery fig angle, what better way to do it than by using the same odd Squidward everywhere to give us no idea! It just makes little sense to me to make mention of Obi-Wan's need for weapons and make no mention of a band in the descriptions if they are going the Bith route. Again, not that I would complain about getting a Bith over Wuhur :p in fact I hope we get Bith/Ponda/Evazen. Just don't think it will happen. Quote
Darth Punk Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 The description says 8 minifig and the box says 2 new figs. That just means 6 are not new. Quote
d-delay Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Well... the catalog says 2 new mystery figs, and we can't see the rest where other new figs may be mentioned that are not a mystery. I think Spyderlord is right with his logic: Greedo must be new. There is no chance they re-release that figure completely unchanged after all this time. Therefore, per the current mood, the other three figs must all be identical and thus Bith IF there are only two new figs. What I question is whether there are only two new figs, or whether there are more mentioned unseen. Perhaps all we see is that there are two MORE new figs in addition to the unseen new figs pictured out of shot. I have a hard time believing: A) that Lego would only include two new figs in a Cantina with 8 figs when there are obvious options like Ponda/Evezan/Wuhur B) that they would make three Bith for a set out of eight figs and then not mention them anywhere in the descriptions. Because Spyderlord is right: if there are only two new figs we have to be getting three Bith. If there are more than two new figs though, then really, anything is possible. Quote
Artizan Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) who is wuhur? a search in wookiepedia returns with no results. Edited January 13, 2014 by Artizan Quote
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 who is wuhur? a search in wookiepedia returns with no results. He's the bartender at the Mos Eisley Cantina. While he would be a cool fig to get, he's easier to make a custom of rather than a Bith, so I'm not itching to get him in the set. Quote
Darth Punk Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Well then it wouldn't say two new figures. I imagine there are 2 biths counting as one new fig and then ponds baba as the other new fig. I don't think a redesigned greedo would be advertised as new. Otherwise you would see that all the time. The bartender's name is Wuher not wuhur. Edited January 13, 2014 by Darth Punk Quote
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Well then it wouldn't say two new figures. I imagine there are 2 bits counting as one new fig and then ponds baba as the other new fig. I don't think a redesigned greedo would be advertised as new. Otherwise you would see that all the time. The bartender's name is Wuher not wuhur. Of course a redesign of Greedo counts as new. He's not been in a set for 10 years, so he'll be all new prints and colours, along with the evident new head. Heck, if the give Luke back printing he'd be new. Ben is new, if they've updated since 2011. When there are, say, new Clones, and we get two in one set, they just say Clone Trooper x2 with the big orange NEW stamp above the fig. That'll likely be the case for the Bith. That means that Greedo should have a NEW stamp as well, and I hope Ponda Babba is the last new fig. My ideal fig list for this set (and I believe it's very likely): Luke, Ben, Han, Sandtrooper, Greedo, Bith x3, Ponda Babba. That's essentially three new figs, and 9 figs total, along with the new molded Dewback. Knowing that LEGO is aware of how badly the fans have wanted a decent Cantina for years, and how much we love more alien pieces, I really doubt they'd waste fig slots with humans like Wuher. They'll only give us the main human heroes, and then make the rest new aliens we've never seen before. That way, they'll have given the widest variety of plausible new pieces to please the most fans possible. It just makes sense. Edited January 13, 2014 by Fives Quote
Robianco Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Luke, Ben, Han, Sandtrooper, Greedo, Bith x3, Ponda Babba. That's essentially three new figs, and 9 figs total, along with the new molded Dewback. If it's eight then I'd say the above but two Bith. I'd say that if they ARE to give us Bith then they'd at least put two in to encourage multiple set purchases (similar to Weathertop for LOTR having two Wraiths). Quote
donbarca Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 hahah we need a confirmed mini-fig line up for this set please!!!!!! i am hoping bith/wuher/P.baba but really anything would do it for me Quote
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) If it's eight then I'd say the above but two Bith. I'd say that if they ARE to give us Bith then they'd at least put two in to encourage multiple set purchases (similar to Weathertop for LOTR having two Wraiths). Maybe that's they tactic, but I really doubt it'd work if there are so many named figs, as well as the Landspeeder. Fans are more likely to just buy one set and Bricklink a third Bith to finish the band. If there's only two Bith, that's definitely my plan. Also, I feel like the Star Destroyer was an amazing chance for a new Tarkin that LEGO seems to have just let slip by. I'll oily get the set eventually, but the lack of an updated named character makes the set much less desirable for me. On another note, where have the new winter wave sets started to appear? I haven't had any luck yet here in Toronto, but my local Toys R Us told me February when I inquired about one of the new sets, so the wait isn't too much longer. Edited January 13, 2014 by Fives Quote
General Magma Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 No more SWTOR sets? What a shame. Would've liked to see more of those. Quote
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 No more SWTOR sets? What a shame. Would've liked to see more of those. Those were some great sets, but I bet that Disney may have quelled any further production of those sets. They likely want LEGO to focus their energy and resources on the upcoming show and films. Still, even with the few sets we got, SWTOR gave us some stellar builds and figs. Quote
Darth Punk Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Of course a redesign of Greedo counts as new. He's not been in a set for 10 years, so he'll be all new prints and colours, along with the evident new head. Heck, if the give Luke back printing he'd be new. Ben is new, if they've updated since 2011. When there are, say, new Clones, and we get two in one set, they just say Clone Trooper x2 with the big orange NEW stamp above the fig. That'll likely be the case for the Bith. That means that Greedo should have a NEW stamp as well, and I hope Ponda Babba is the last new fig. When they refer to new they are saying never made before. Not to,mention you can see greedo on the page near Han. Thus the squid ward headed figs would be the new ones. Thus the blacked,out images of the new minifigs. Quote
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 When they refer to new they are saying never made before. Not to,mention you can see greedo on the page near Han. Thus the squid ward headed figs would be the new ones. Thus the blacked,out images of the new minifigs. Well, to my memory, they called the Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon figs from 2012's Gungan Sub new, even though they only had newer prints. And I don't think that's the only example. Maybe LEGO is changing up how they label 'new' figs, but I think the more thy can call new, the more people will buy sets. Quote
Darth Punk Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Well this image is for retailers, not for the general public. Quote
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