Transformers

[5150 Lego]

LOL. Ok, thanks for the info. I read through a few of those "complaints". While some are true problems, (ironhide is a pain to transform, and Barricade is a pain to get his rear feet to sit right back in mustang mode),most are just stupid. Some people can't seem to realize that they have bought $10 plastic toys and not a brand new lexus. You bound to have problems here and there. I'm not saying this is an excuse to make junk, but you have to give them some slack.

[Brainbox]

Hey Brainbox. Just over a week intill the europe TF realse! You excited? :-D

Well, it's funny you should say that...

We're staying at my grandparents this weekend, and my uncle, his wife, his son and his son's girlfriend came by for tea last night. And we (my dad and I) ended up talking to my cousin about the Simpsons Movie. And we all said that we were going to see it. Then my dad said "what about Transformers?" My cousin said "yeah, maybe", and I thought "wow, for the first time in years, Transformers is actually cool."

I mean, I always thought they were cool, but it's been a long time since it was a general consensus. I then said that I was going to go on my own, because it's my film. Maybe tht makes me sound selfish, but so what? I know all the mythology, the characters, etc. My dad and sister don't. Therefore, I'm going on my own.

And dozens more topics just like all these.

:'-( Sigh...

[5150 Lego]

Well, it's funny you should say that...

We're staying at my grandparents this weekend, and my uncle, his wife, his son and his son's girlfriend came by for tea last night. And we (my dad and I) ended up talking to my cousin about the Simpsons Movie. And we all said that we were going to see it. Then my dad said "what about Transformers?" My cousin said "yeah, maybe", and I thought "wow, for the first time in years, Transformers is actually cool."

I mean, I always thought they were cool, but it's been a long time since it was a general consensus. I then said that I was going to go on my own, because it's my film. Maybe tht makes me sound selfish, but so what? I know all the mythology, the characters, etc. My dad and sister don't. Therefore, I'm going on my own.

:'-( Sigh...

really? I found it alot of fun to go with friends and family. Just saw it for a second time yesterday with some friended who haden't seen it. They played with the toys as kids, but did have an exstensive following. They loved it! Though to each his own i guess. Just remeber to have fun!

[Lord Thrawn]

I saw a preview screening yesterday with 5 friends which was excellent. Totally great film. I'm trying to find toys now lol.

Go see it on launch.

[Brainbox]

really? I found it alot of fun to go with friends and family. Just saw it for a second time yesterday with some friended who haden't seen it. They played with the toys as kids, but did have an exstensive following. They loved it!

Ah, but you've not been to the pictures with my dad. He feels the need to ask a question if he isn't sure. Fine, but I'd rather he didn't when a crucial bit was on.

I had the same coversation again last night, this time with my (other) cousin's boyfriend. He was saying, though, that he always found TFs cool, with the idea of something changing form. But he said that some were always cooler than others. For example, Prime is a truck, but then there's "the one who turns into a radio." I ran with the joke, saying that the entire premise of the cartoon was Spike finding a radio lying around in the desert and taking it back to the Ark without realising who it was! :-D

I saw a 'making of...' documentary on TMF today, and I notice there's another one on Channel 4 tomorrow morning. Thankfully, today's didn't give too much away, but (strangely) didn't mention anything about the designing or rendering of the 'bots.

On a side-note, I notice the UK Magazine/Comic is out, I saw it the other day. I didn't pick it up though, so I'd like to hear other people thoughts if anyone's got it.

[5150 Lego]

Ah, but you've not been to the pictures with my dad. He feels the need to ask a question if he isn't sure. Fine, but I'd rather he didn't when a crucial bit was on.

I had the same coversation again last night, this time with my (other) cousin's boyfriend. He was saying, though, that he always found TFs cool, with the idea of something changing form. But he said that some were always cooler than others. For example, Prime is a truck, but then there's "the one who turns into a radio." I ran with the joke, saying that the entire premise of the cartoon was Spike finding a radio lying around in the desert and taking it back to the Ark without realising who it was! :-D

I saw a 'making of...' documentary on TMF today, and I notice there's another one on Channel 4 tomorrow morning. Thankfully, today's didn't give too much away, but (strangely) didn't mention anything about the designing or rendering of the 'bots.

On a side-note, I notice the UK Magazine/Comic is out, I saw it the other day. I didn't pick it up though, so I'd like to hear other people thoughts if anyone's got it.

I can defeantly understand not wanting questions being asked during the middle of the movie. Ihad thathappen to me many times and your right. Its ussually right in the middle of an important part or action scene.

I tried not to watch to many Making of shows cause i didn't want them to show to much ofthe movie other than what i had already scene on the net and such. Funny. Now that ive scene it i can't catch a making of anywhere as before, they were practicly thrown in my face! *wacko*

[Mr Hobbles]

I saw the movie yesterday too. I'm not a huge fan of transformers, and I loved it. That's not to say I ever hated it, I just never took much notice of it.

The one thing that detracted from the movie was the "love" scenes. Man they were terrible. So bad I actually sank into my seat and tried to hide by covering my face. Michael Bay just cant do romance at all. Just look at Pearl Harbour. :-P

Oh and Optimus Prime is simply badass, although I think Starscream was my favourite.

[5150 Lego]

I saw the movie yesterday too. I'm not a huge fan of transformers, and I loved it. That's not to say I ever hated it, I just never took much notice of it.

The one thing that detracted from the movie was the "love" scenes. Man they were terrible. So bad I actually sank into my seat and tried to hide by covering my face. Michael Bay just cant do romance at all. Just look at Pearl Harbour. :-P

Oh and Optimus Prime is simply badass, although I think Starscream was my favourite.

Umm, i don't recall any real "love scenes" in the movie. Other than sam flocking over Michela at times, and i thought those parts were halarious.

[Mr Hobbles]

Umm, i don't recall any real "love scenes" in the movie. Other than sam flocking over Michela at times, and i thought those parts were halarious.

It's those I'm talking about. "Bet you're glad you got in the car now." Oh man. And the rest of the lines were just as bad!

[5150 Lego]

It's those I'm talking about. "Bet you're glad you got in the car now." Oh man. And the rest of the lines were just as bad!

Oh com'on dude. First off, this was a movie about robots blowing themselfs up. Not Casablanka. They weren't the best lines, but they certainly didn't take away from the movie either. It was all need parts of the story. Again, many were made to be mmore comical than anything.

[Mr Hobbles]

Oh com'on dude. First off, this was a movie about robots blowing themselfs up. Not Casablanka. They weren't the best lines, but they certainly didn't take away from the movie either. It was all need parts of the story. Again, many were made to be mmore comical than anything.

I disagree! As I mentioned, as soon as many of those lines were said I actually did sink in my seat and cover my face. There were many other groans in the audience too.

I feel like you're completely missing what I said about the movie, in that the action was great and the movie itself was awesome. *y* But the little "romance" scenes did ruin it for me a bit.

[5150 Lego]

I disagree! As I mentioned, as soon as many of those lines were said I actually did sink in my seat and cover my face. There were many other groans in the audience too.

I feel like you're completely missing what I said about the movie, in that the action was great and the movie itself was awesome. *y* But the little "romance" scenes did ruin it for me a bit.

Sorry about that. Its Just just that some people just won't accept this movie for what it is.From some peoples coments they seem to have expected the next academy award winning"film" and not the action packed entertainment that it is. I put in you that catagory at first. I opoligize for that. To each his own i guess. But i did feel that the "love scenes *wub* " helped the overall story,and help show the bond that Bumble Bee had with Sam and Micheala. So there was at least some purpose.

[Brainbox]

I tried not to watch to many Making of shows cause i didn't want them to show to much ofthe movie other than what i had already scene on the net and such. Funny. Now that ive scene it i can't catch a making of anywhere as before, they were practicly thrown in my face! *wacko*

I ended up missing the one on Channel 4 as I got up too late. Oh well.

The one I saw didn't actually have many clips that haven't been in a trailer. In fact... all the clips had been in trailers. So really the only new thing was the 'in-depth' ( :-| ) analysis from cast members. And they all did a strange amount of sucking up to Bay, even though he wasn't there. "He's the man" and all that.

[5150 Lego]

I ended up missing the one on Channel 4 as I got up too late. Oh well.

The one I saw didn't actually have many clips that haven't been in a trailer. In fact... all the clips had been in trailers. So really the only new thing was the 'in-depth' ( :-| ) analysis from cast members. And they all did a strange amount of sucking up to Bay, even though he wasn't there. "He's the man" and all that.

Well, from what i understand, bay isn't the easiest director to work for. Hecanbevery tough at times,but he is also the finnal say in who is going to be in the movie. So they might be sucking up to get into the sequel. Though i would think Shia Lebloef and Megan fox would be defanates.

[Lt. Col. Thok]

Who Cares? The movie was awesome. Slam, Bang, Crash, BOOM! Who doesn't like action like that? *sweet*

[Brainbox]

Went into two different Woolworths today, one this morning and one this afternoon. It seems that there's an offer on: spend over

[Brainbox]

Sorry to double post, but I felt that this deserved a post of it's own.

I went to the library today, and found BW: The Gathering. It would seems that it's been there for a good 6 or 7 months, but in the Teenage section (as opposed to the Graphic Novel section) where I don't look. Strange, eh?

Anyway, I read it this afternoon, and it's actually really good. It felt good to reacquaint myself with the TF era I grew up with, so there was a certain amount of nostalgia, not to mention trying to remember all the names (a task made all the more difficult with the inclusion of a few BW2 and BW Neo characters). But the story was good and all the characters/characterisation were nice, even if it was difficult to stop thinking of Razorbeast as Pumbaa from 'The Lion King' :-D

The extra's were good as well, with a set of cover designs and a few pre-Earth sketches from Don (including Manterror and Spittor).

On another note, my local paper has given the Movie 4 stars, and Asda have finally got the Movie toys in stock. With an offer of 'two for

[5150 Lego]

Nice finds with the stories. You guys don't have deluxe figures over in the UK yet? Were on the second wave in the states. probbly going to to get 08 Bumble Bee camaro tommorw.

So its the 27th. Seen the movie yet? I'm curious to see how you likes it.

[Brainbox]

Nice finds with the stories. You guys don't have deluxe figures over in the UK yet? Were on the second wave in the states.

Not where I've been at least. But, that said, I've not managed to look in TRU yet, so you never know, they might have them there. We've got the Deluxes (Ratchet and Blackout), Real Gear, Legends wave 1, Cyberslammers, Protoforms, Optimash Prime, Cyberstompers and Voice Changer in 'regular' shops.

So its the 27th. Seen the movie yet? I'm curious to see how you likes it.

I'll probably be going later in the week, wait till it's calmed down a bit. Besides, I've got The Simpsons to go and watch.

[JINZONINGEN73]

Oh com'on dude. First off, this was a movie about robots blowing themselfs up. Not Casablanka. They weren't the best lines, but they certainly didn't take away from the movie either. It was all need parts of the story. Again, many were made to be mmore comical than anything.

Well, it should have been about robots blowing themselves up.

Having actors executing a bad script did indeed detract from it.

And no, they were not necessary.

The comedy drove the nail into the coffin even further. It was just... yikes.

I downloaded it, and seriously, I could only watch it once. Then I deleted it.

Alot of parts were just so... stupid... that I'd look over at my wife and say, "Yeah... this isn't really what Transformers is", in order to validate with her the pile of robots I collected over the years in the basement.

I know what he means by scrunching down in his seat, only I was just making embarrassed faces, wincing every now and then.

My face hurt after it. No joke.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=241

Edited July 28, 2007 by JINZONINGEN 73

[Brainbox]

Not where I've been at least. But, that said, I've not managed to look in TRU yet, so you never know, they might have them there.

... aaand having said that, I picked up the new Argos catalogue this afternoon, and found that the Deluxes are available. Probably only Wave 1 though.

There's nothing much new of interest reall. There's Deluxes, Voyagers (8 to collect apparantly), Leaders and a few Alts left.

But there's also Ultimate Bumblebee, Nightwatch Prime, and the Voyager Prime/Deluxe 70s Bumblebee 2-pack, along with a few of the 'other' items- Risk, Robot Fighters, Cyberstompin' Prime, etc.

Optimash Prime is also available for the usual price of

Edited July 29, 2007 by Brainbox

[JoeMI6]

Saw the movie today, with LordT and another friend - a damn good movie. I thought that the action was all fantastic, and although I had trouble identifying some Decepticons at times, and there was some silly love scenes and ropey dialogue, it certainly did its job. It's a fun summer movie, which I'd happily see again with my friends.

Now, to try and find some of the good toys in the UK... ;-)

[dviddy]

New TF: Animated toy images and protos:

Blackarachnia

Bulkhead Robot

Bulkhead Vehicle

Bumblebee Robot and Vehicle

Slag?

Grimlock

Group Shot (Prowl, Optimus, Bumblebee)

Lugnut (<3)

Megatron (fully colored image in the cartoon snip on-line)

Prime close-up

Prime robot

Soundwave

Starscream Robot

Starscream Vehicle

If you check some of the SDCC07 coverage on-line, you can find a snippet of the new cartoon. Looks like at least one more Dinobot (Swoop).

These are surprisingly accurate to the new show's character images. Some of them are pretty awesome. Some of them are awesome, then have odd heads (I'm looking at you, Starscream). Bulkhead is just crazy with those lil itty bitty legs.

Edited July 29, 2007 by Darth Vader

[5150 Lego]

Well, it should have been about robots blowing themselves up.

Having actors executing a bad script did indeed detract from it.

And no, they were not necessary.

The comedy drove the nail into the coffin even further. It was just... yikes.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=241

You couldn't be more wrong. First off, it really was about the robots. And as much as we would have all loved to see the bots on the screen 100 percent of the time, but lets be honest and realistic. that just couldn't have happened. Budget and time are all contributing factors to that. Thats why companies like GM steped in and helped cut the bill to have a few of there cars in the movie (whitch took absolutly nothing away from it. The 08 Camarocouldn't have been a better choice for bumble bee, and rachets H2 emergency vechile was just as good. Acttually, I felt all the bots alternates were perfect.)

The story needed humans in it to get an understanding of how/why the bots are on earth. One of the big problems of the "die hard 80" fans fail to realise is that there not the only ones going to see this movie. The script was NOT bad. It was very good. so yes, it WAS nessasary. Perfect? No. But you name one movie that is. The comedy was great. Maybe if you had a sense of humor you might realise that. But no. You claim that they took a movie that was based on an 80's cartoon and toy line wasn't taken seriously enough becase the sector7 guy had on a shirst with a big "7"on it. :-|

I downloaded it, and seriously, I could only watch it once. Then I deleted it.

Alot of parts were just so... stupid... that I'd look over at my wife and say, "Yeah... this isn't really what Transformers is", in order to validate with her the pile of robots I collected over the years in the basement.

I know what he means by scrunching down in his seat, only I was just making embarrassed faces, wincing every now and then.

My face hurt after it. No joke.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=241

I understand that your not going to please everyone with a movie like this. But everytime a "die hard fan" or whatever they want to call themselfs bitches about how horrible it was, or how much it wasn't what TF really is, none of them can give a good example of what it should have been. The ones that do say they wanted somthing more dark and sinister and just outright destructive. now i might have been out of the loop for a while with TF, but even i know that couldn't be farther from what the 80's cartoon was. Its TF, not a fucken horror movie. About 95% of the people who saw it who had claimed "Micheal Bay runined there childhood" before even seeing the movie,tunred a 180 and said the movie was good. But there's that 5% that just aren't going to be happy unless they see a movie version of the first episode on the big screen.

Are you trying to tell me that there wasn't one just one part of the movie that you liked? How about the opening scene when Blackout attacked? Or when the autobots rolled though the alley to meet up with bumble bee? Barricades introgation or sam? Again, the movie wasn't perfect, but most people have at least found one scence or thing about the movie that they liked. I can't beilve that you being a TF fan couldn't find at least one thing you liked about the hole flick.

But to be honest, you preety much had your mind made up about it before you saw it.

[Starwars4J]

Thats why companies like GM steped in and helped cut the bill to have a few of there cars in the movie (whitch took absolutly nothing away from it.

Product Placement...it was a huge publicity stunt.

The story needed humans in it to get an understanding of how/why the bots are on earth. One of the big problems of the "die hard 80" fans fail to realise is that there not the only ones going to see this movie.

But if it worked back then, why not now? Surely we haven't become THAT self-centered and egotistical that we can't enjoy something unless we're the focus...

Maybe if you had a sense of humor you might realise that. But no. You claim that they took a movie that was based on an 80's cartoon and toy line wasn't taken seriously enough becase the sector7 guy had on a shirst with a big "7"on it. :-|

Yes, maybe if he had a sense of humor he'd realize the absolute truth that your sense of humor is better! Oh wait, everyone had a different sense of humor, and he, along with A GREAT DEAL MORE, felt that the humor was lame, corny (not in the good way), and just plain pathetic. You like it? Good for you, you have a different sense of humor, but do NOT start insulting people because they don't laugh at the things that make you laugh.

But everytime a "die hard fan" or whatever they want to call themselfs bitches about how horrible it was, or how much it wasn't what TF really is, none of them can give a good example of what it should have been.

I guess you've never heard of The Phantom Edit then? There are many times that die-hard fans know what the movie should have been, if only from what the movie they saw wasn't. Okay, this was a movie for 'everyone', too bad it turns the die-hard fans off enough to keep them from buying the DVD, merchandise, and re-watching the movie. They shouldn't have tailored the movie for everyone, but rather made the movie the best it could be WITHOUT worrying about who would see it. That's how the best movies are made, they're creative efforts that don't worry about who will like it, and how they can make the most money. And when it's something like this, pissing off the primary fanbase is just a horrible idea. Look at what happened with the prequels....

Are you trying to tell me that there wasn't one just one part of the movie that you liked? How about the opening scene when Blackout attacked? Or when the autobots rolled though the alley to meet up with bumble bee? Barricades introgation or sam? Again, the movie wasn't perfect, but most people have at least found one scence or thing about the movie that they liked. I can't beilve that you being a TF fan couldn't find at least one thing you liked about the hole flick.

Wouldn't you say a movie should have more than a single scene that a person likes?

But to be honest, you preety much had your mind made up about it before you saw it.

Sounds like he gave it a chance, why else would he watch it, with his wife right there, as a means to show her and justify his hobby to her? Although you have to admit, seeing the radical change in character design, minimal use of dialogue, lame acting, and bastardization of the plot into a human-centric script would turn most people off who actually want to see Transformers, and not "Humans A, B, and C with guest stars: The Transformers"

Edited July 29, 2007 by Starwars4J