Transformers

[Brainbox]

I'm sure Meg's will make his return somehow in the sequal, it would be great to see alittle more of dialogue between him and Starscream. To me the way those two distrust each other has shown just how evil and power mad the decepticon cause is.

Throw in Shockwave, and you've got a nice dichotomy. Megs rules through fear, Screamer's power-crazed, and Shockwave believes he should rule, simply because it's the logical answer.

And then there's Soundwave, playing loyal lieutenant but secretly collecting any dirt he can dig up, on anyone.

[Vader]

Throw in Shockwave, and you've got a nice dichotomy. Megs rules through fear, Screamer's power-crazed, and Shockwave believes he should rule, simply because it's the logical answer.

And then there's Soundwave, playing loyal lieutenant but secretly collecting any dirt he can dig up, on anyone.

I allways prefered shockwave over megs, to me he looks better and seemed to come closer to destroying the autobots than megs ever did.

I still remember reading issue 4 and 5 of the old marvel comic and seeing him show up and lay the smackdown on everyone was superb, shame later versions of him weren't portrayed as being so powerful.

[Brainbox]

I allways prefered shockwave over megs, to me he looks better and seemed to come closer to destroying the autobots than megs ever did.

I love Shockwave, he's just such a great character.

I still remember reading issue 4 and 5 of the old marvel comic and seeing him show up and lay the smackdown on everyone was superb, shame later versions of him weren't portrayed as being so powerful.

"The Transformers are all dead!" Ooh...

He isn't doing so bad in IDW. Apart from the whole 'trapped in a volcano with the Dynobots for millions of years, only to be excavated by a sinister organisation called Skywatch" thing. But there's a great bit in his Spotlight issue where he turns off his higher functions to become a primal instinct being in order to better understand the Dynobots' fighting technques. He turns his higher functions back on, and decides that this primal action warrents further investigation some other time. He's being portrayed as someone who just steps back, sees the big picture, and acts upon it.

DW (I haven't read it) just had him as the cause of every problem.

[Vader]

I have been reading all the IDW TF books and i cant speak highly enough of them, Furman is doing a great job of linking all the books together. Though i do get the feeling that shockwave will be portrayed as less powerful than megs, which is a shame.

The DW run was ok but it wasn't a patch on the current run if you ask me, the artwork was good though over detailed.

[Brainbox]

I have been reading all the IDW TF books and i cant speak highly enough of them, Furman is doing a great job of linking all the books together. Though i do get the feeling that shockwave will be portrayed as less powerful than megs, which is a shame.

Oh, definitely. I love overarching storylines anyway, and this is an other superb example. I recently bought Infiltration, Escalation, Stormbringer and Spotlights volume 1 from Manchester, and they're all great. Nice art, cool new designs (especially Ratchet and Prowl), the aforementioned arch, a few nice in-jokes and good choice of characters. I'm looking forward to Spotlights volume 2 being released as a Trade, sometime after Ramjet in November, I think.

And, of course, it's always good to see more British writers in the comics industry.

I might also pick up the BW stuff if I find them, and I'll see if I can borrow the Movie stuff from the library, as I'm not as bothered by those, but they'll be nice to read.

On a side note, I finally came across Voyager Ironhide and Starscream, in Southport M&S of all places! Didn't buy them, just thought I'd point it out. But, Southport Woolworths (not exactly a small one), had even less TF stuff than the two (often slightly rubbish) near me. They didn't have much to speak of in the way of Lego either.

EDIT: I forgot to say, following this story (and a few other, similar reports), I stopped in to the one in Burnley yesterday. You know I did really well, as they had... absolutely nothing TF-wise. Not one thing. Sigh...

Still, there's another one near me, I might see if I can call in, and I'll keep checking back. But if there's any Titaniums or Classics that anyone wants or found hard to get then I suggest you check your local shop(s). You never know.

Edited August 17, 2007 by Brainbox

[Echo]

Some of you have probably already seen this, but this is what Arcee would have looked like if she had been in the movie.

[5150 Lego]

Some of you have probably already seen this, but this is what Arcee would have looked like if she had been in the movie.

Was she going to bein the movie? I thought she had a spot in the sequel.

[Echo]

Was she going to bein the movie? I thought she had a spot in the sequel.

She was going t be in the first movie, but she was cut and replaced by Ironhide. They say that most of her lines were used by Ironhide, which leads me to think that her not being in the movie was a good thing. I can't see Arcee being violent and destructive like that.

There is a good chance that she will be in the sequel.

[Brainbox]

The toy design was pretty close there. I mean, they're all quite close, but Arcee perhaps more so than the others.

So, I checked in the other Wilkinson's near me, and after a rather extensive found... absolutely nothing. Again. Sigh...

I felt I should just point out my Micro Transformers thread here on EB. You know, since it's TF related. Be sure to tell me what you think. :-)

Look at this! What the hell?! What about all those people (me included) who don't have an HD-DVD player? I don't care if they're cheap, frankly! Or does it mean that the only HD format will be HD-DVD, as opposed to say blu-ray? *wacko*

[Freddie]

He's got some interesting concepts on that site of his.

Hehehe

So, are they going for only HD-DVD, or is there a chance this movie will be on the regular DVD's as well?

[Brainbox]

So, are they going for only HD-DVD, or is there a chance this movie will be on the regular DVD's as well?

That's what I mean. It'd be silly to just release the Movie on HD-DVD, as not ev4eryone has an HD player/TV. Looking around the TF fanbases, interpretations seem a little divided. Initially people took it tio mean 'no DVD, just HD-DVD' but now some people think it's more of a 'DVD as normal, but HD-DVD is the only High-Definition format that will be available' i.e. no Blu-Ray.

Still, as long as it's option 2, it doesn't bother me.

[Vader]

I can't see them just releasing it in HD-DVD format even if the article seem's to point that way, doing a HD version only would seriously affect their profit margins.

[Siegfried]

"Code of Hero"... one of the most moving things I've ever seen on a television screen. :'-(

Yes, that was one of the best episodes. For a kids show done years ago it holds up well even today.

I was gutted when I tuned in late and found Dinobot was dead. I think I cried (hey, I was young!).

I still cry now after many watches! :-$

[Brainbox]

I can't see them just releasing it in HD-DVD format even if the article seem's to point that way, doing a HD version only would seriously affect their profit margins.

Yeah, I realised that after I 'calmed down.' I foolishly skimmed through the aricle, thought "arrgh!" then re-read it and was really no better off having done so.

I mean, it's not as if the article really makes it absolutely clear is it? I can understand where all the confusion's coming from.

[JINZONINGEN73]

I allways prefered shockwave over megs, to me he looks better

My Action Master version has seen better days.

Yay for plastic vapors while sitting in toy boxes for a few years?

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[5150 Lego]

Man, and i thought movie Ratchet was good.

This is really good. I think i like this one better than the movie Ratchet. But i can defenatly see this bot working as "Inferno" for TF2 if he makes it into the sequel.

Now i have mixed emotions on this one. Defenatly more reconisable as star scream than the movie con, but just doesn't do it. Feels to femine. Defenatley doesn't have the menacing and evil presence that the movie Starscream does. This version just isn't intimadating.

Yeah, I realised that after I 'calmed down.' I foolishly skimmed through the aricle, thought "arrgh!" then re-read it and was really no better off having done so.

I mean, it's not as if the article really makes it absolutely clear is it? I can understand where all the confusion's coming from.

I agree with vader that if they went this route they'd loose alot of money. I could see them offering a speacail "behind the scences" that is only avaible on the HD DVD versus the regular DVD.

Though, know that i think about it, when the star wars trilogy was re-released, wasn't it only avaible on VHS, at first then DVD? I guess thats knida the oppisite of what there doing now, since there forcing the newest technology that most people aren't caught up with.

[JINZONINGEN73]

Now i have mixed emotions on this one. Defenatly more reconisable as star scream than the movie con, but just doesn't do it. Feels to femine. Defenatley doesn't have the menacing and evil presence that the movie Starscream does. This version just isn't intimadating.

Agreed, but that was a very early concept... unrefined and not fleshed out yet.

Oh, it COULD be menacing, with a few good tweaks.

... ... ...Is it just me, or does that not look like Knights Kingdom joints on the pelvis?

Maybe they initially used Lego mock-ups to test design on? X-D

As for ratchet... is that gun not a hyper-detailed version of the gas pump that came with G1 Optimus's "Roller".

Edited August 21, 2007 by JINZONINGEN 73

[Brainbox]

This is really good. I think i like this one better than the movie Ratchet. But i can defenatly see this bot working as "Inferno" for TF2 if he makes it into the sequel.

This is quite nice. This certainly looks more Ratchet-y, but I think I actually prefer the finished design as Ratchet. But it's a good, solid design, and could, as you say, work as Inferno with a few tweaks, or maybe a bulked-up Red Alert.

Defenatly more reconisable as star scream than the movie con, but just doesn't do it. Feels to femine. Defenatley doesn't have the menacing and evil presence that the movie Starscream does. This version just isn't intimadating.

Well, to be honest, the Seekers never really looked that intimidating in G1. I suppose that fitted with the original designs though, and it could be interpretted as an ironic look at his charater- he thinks he's a threat to Megs, but really he's more of an annoyance.

Though, know that i think about it, when the star wars trilogy was re-released, wasn't it only avaible on VHS, at first then DVD? I guess thats knida the oppisite of what there doing now, since there forcing the newest technology that most people aren't caught up with.

Trouble is, forcing the newest technology is a stupid idea, especially if it's essentially the same as the old one. I mean, take Digital TV here in the UK. That's fine, as it's better picture quality, more channels, etc. And the analogue signals will begin top be turned off starting next year in some areas.

But HD-DVDs and HD-TV? Well, to be honest they're almost the same as normal DVDs and normal TVs, only a better picture quality. You don't really get anything new out of them. It actually took me a couple of years befire I caught up with DVD and bought a (fairly cheap) DVD player. To be honest, I don't really want to buy an HD-DVD player and TV, and have all the DVDs I own now made redundant.

[Lord Thrawn]

I found Bonecrusher and Swindle in Sainsbury's up north, so check yours out. I only bought Bonecrusher, and he's a little short but very cool.

[Brainbox]

I'm nipping into town on Thursday after I get my GCSE results, so I might take a peek then. So that's...

• WHSmith for my Fantastic Four Comic
  
• Sainsbury's (a bit out of the way but never mind) for Movies TFs
  
• Wilkinsons on the off-chance that they've got some Classics or Titaniums in (even though they didn't the other day)
  
• Woolworths in case they've got round to getting some good TF stock in (as opposed to Real Gear Wave 1, Legends Wave 1 and Classics Jetfire)
  
• Tesco to see if they've actually bothered to get the Movie figures,
  
• Home Bargains and TK Maxx (also out of the way) on the off-chance. Well, you never know.
  
• Lunch... gotta eat. ;-)
  

Sigh... It's gonna be a long day. And I probably won't find anything... |-/

Then on Friday I'm off to my grandmas, so I'll see if I can persuade my dad to let me call in at TRU on the way back.

EDIT: It would seem the HD-DVD only decision has far-reaching implications: Bay Says 'no' to TF2 because of the decision not to relese the Movie on all HD formats.

So that means we need a new guy to helm TF2, doesn't it?

Edited August 21, 2007 by Brainbox

[5150 Lego]

I'm nipping into town on Thursday after I get my GCSE results, so I might take a peek then. So that's...

• WHSmith for my Fantastic Four Comic
  
• Sainsbury's (a bit out of the way but never mind) for Movies TFs
  
• Wilkinsons on the off-chance that they've got some Classics or Titaniums in (even though they didn't the other day)
  
• Woolworths in case they've got round to getting some good TF stock in (as opposed to Real Gear Wave 1, Legends Wave 1 and Classics Jetfire)
  
• Tesco to see if they've actually bothered to get the Movie figures,
  
• Home Bargains and TK Maxx (also out of the way) on the off-chance. Well, you never know.
  
• Lunch... gotta eat. ;-)
  

Sigh... It's gonna be a long day. And I probably won't find anything... |-/

TF figs are practicaly sold out everywhere i've been looking in the states. I've gone everywhere TRU, TARGET, WALLMART, nothing. Only thing they have left are cyber slammers. and the small 3" dieccast figures. The rest of the TF section is completely bare. Must be waiting for the 3rd wave of figes to come through.

EDIT: It would seem the HD-DVD only decision has far-reaching implications: Bay Says 'no' to TF2 because of the decision not to relese the Movie on all HD formats.

So that means we need a new guy to helm TF2, doesn't it?

Hmm. Well, i think Bay is just playinga game. To be honest, a movie like this is ussually always shownin all 3 formats. DVD, HD-DVD and Blue ray. Maybe not now, but more than likely paramount will change there minds closer to the DVD release date. Maybe by then, Bay will change his mind. Preety stupid on his part though.

But it looks like that some people might have gotten there wish. But to be honest, i don't know another director that would be as good as bay for this type of movie. I know manythink that a TF fan would make a much better director than bay, but i just don't find that true. Some may not want to admit it, but Bay does great action movies and knows how to blow stuff up.

So here's the question...

If bay sticks to his guns and doesn't direct the sequel, who do you guys think would do a better job and why?

Edited August 21, 2007 by 5150 Lego

[Lord Thrawn]

I'm nipping into town on Thursday after I get my GCSE results...

Heh, me too (going into Year 11 but I've done a few early, got an A* on my French GCSE I took in year 9!) but I'm getting Halo Uprising and Beast Wars: The Gathering.

[optimus-convoy]

EDIT: It would seem the HD-DVD only decision has far-reaching implications: Bay Says 'no' to TF2 because of the decision not to release the Movie on all HD formats.

So that means we need a new guy to helm TF2, doesn't it?

Maybe. But like 5150 said, he's probably just throwing a fit. I think it's possible either he or Paramont will cave.

If he is out, I can't think of anyone specific right now. I just want a good director who knows how to do action and has some love for the franchise.

[Brainbox]

got an A* on my French GCSE I took in year 9!

Congratulations.

TF figs are practicaly sold out everywhere i've been looking in the states. I've gone everywhere TRU, TARGET, WALLMART, nothing. Only thing they have left are cyber slammers. and the small 3" dieccast figures. The rest of the TF section is completely bare. Must be waiting for the 3rd wave of figes to come through.

We're not doing too brilliantly here in the UK, but I think that's more a case of 'they were never here in the first place' than 'they've all gone.' I went into one Woolies yesterday and they had about four Real Gear figures (didn't look which), Prime Voice Changer and about 10 Legends Ratchets.

Hmm. Well, i think Bay is just playinga game. To be honest, a movie like this is ussually always shownin all 3 formats. DVD, HD-DVD and Blue ray. Maybe not now, but more than likely paramount will change there minds closer to the DVD release date. Maybe by then, Bay will change his mind. Preety stupid on his part though.

To be honest, I think he's got a bit of a point. Why shouldn't people be able to watch in whichever format they choose, as opposed to whichever is forced upon them. Okay, maybe he's not going about it the right way, but still.

EDIT: Well, that was quick...

Edited August 22, 2007 by Brainbox

[5150 Lego]

To be honest, I think he's got a bit of a point. Why shouldn't people be able to watch in whichever format they choose, as opposed to whichever is forced upon them. Okay, maybe he's not going about it the right way, but still.

No no. You miss understood me. I agree, that people should be able to watch it on whitch ever format they want. I think its wrong that were forced to go by a $3K tv, and $600 dvd player just to watch certain dvd's. Espeacailly since HD, and blue ray haven't fully caught on yet.

EDIT: Well, that was quick...

See. Told ya! *y*