Transformers

[5150 Lego]

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[5150 Lego]

I thought this was relevant enough to bring this topic back from the dead. New Transformers: Dark of the Moon trailer came out today.

Epic , simply epic!

[CF Mitch]

WOW

Holy frickin'... moly.

Epic indeed. Thanks for posting. 5150 Lego.

You can really see they made the story a lot more serious. I love the whole 'you promised us you told us everything you knew about our planet, you lied' deal and the alien invasion-kinda stuff

Only 2 more months to go (give or take a few days)

Regards,

Mitch

[XimenaPaulina]

Oh wow, what an amazing trailer! Thanks for sharing this 5150! Just seeing the scenes makes me really excited about this movie, I just hope the actual full-length movie will be better than the trailer. Also, I hope this redeems the Transformers franchise from the disaster of the sequel a.k.a. Revenge of the Fallen.

[Gregorovich]

I thought this was relevant enough to bring this topic back from the dead. New Transformers: Dark of the Moon trailer came out today.

Epic , simply epic!

Thanks! This is looking great, with all it's space ships and such. It's a shame that Megan Fox isn't in this one, though, she was gorgeous. Mind you, that Rosie Huntington-Whitely or whatever she's called is still pretty good looking, too .

[Oky]

Looks fun. Looking forward to it.

How are you guys liking Transformers Prime by the way? While it's not as good as Animated, I think it's pretty good. I like how they tried to combine the best from everything.

[DarthSion]

EPIC FAIL more like it.

I can not wait for this to come out, then Hasbro will reboot and hopefully use the money they made from this piece of garbage and hire people with talent, actual talent not retard talent like bay has, maybe some one with brains to give us a real interesting story that is more than just big explosions and average cgi, something that is not an embarrassment to the G1 name.

Hopefully someone at Hasbro will do to the movies what war for cybertron did for the games, of course they won't for the same reason games have no thinking involved in them any more, too boring for gen y kiddies.

Just a pitty WFC2 got pushed back to make high moon studios do the lame movie tie in.

[5150 Lego]

EPIC FAIL more like it.

I can not wait for this to come out, then Hasbro will reboot and hopefully use the money they made from this piece of garbage and hire people with talent, actual talent not retard talent like bay has, maybe some one with brains to give us a real interesting story that is more than just big explosions and average cgi, something that is not an embarrassment to the G1 name.

Hopefully someone at Hasbro will do to the movies what war for cybertron did for the games, of course they won't for the same reason games have no thinking involved in them any more, too boring for gen y kiddies.

Just a pitty WFC2 got pushed back to make high moon studios do the lame movie tie in.

I actually feel a bit sorry for you. Your so stuck in 1984 that you can't open your mind a bit. Like bay or not, he has done wonders for the TF franchise. The succses of the movies is a very large reason we were able to get games like WFC.

Also, there a hell of alot more to TF than G1. You really need to get over that bud. Even if it does get re booted, there's no garantee that it will pay any G1 homage.

And TF has always been about explosions since G1. Half hour comercials for toys with fighting and explosions. And you complain about story? Stories were never G1's strong point. Heck, up untill TF-Prime there hasn't been all that decent story telling. Stop living in the past.

Looks fun. Looking forward to it.

How are you guys liking Transformers Prime by the way? While it's not as good as Animated, I think it's pretty good. I like how they tried to combine the best from everything.

Love it. Best TF series ever IMO. Great stories, action, and every episode gets a litte deaper into the characters, as well as a bit darker as well. I like how they are apeasing so many different age groups. suitable for the younger crowd, but at the same time apealing to the older fans as well. I'd just like to see more of ratchet outside the base.

[Gryphon Ink]

I admit that it looks hella cool, but I also remember that the trailer for "Rise of the Fallen" looked cool. Good music, quick editing, half a second at a time of the coolest action scenes, Optimus reels off a couple of bad-megablocks lines, somebody says something about how it's all over now, there's no hope left, and there you go - instant wicked trailer. Let's not forget that ROTF had some absolutely amazing action scenes, too, except that the amazing action scenes were spread out over the course of two hours of mostly incredibly dire dialogue, a completely nonsensical plot, and multiple recurring motifs of racism, sexism and jingoism.

Not going to this one unless I hear some incredible word of mouth on it.

[XimenaPaulina]

I admit that it looks hella cool, but I also remember that the trailer for "Rise of the Fallen" looked cool. Good music, quick editing, half a second at a time of the coolest action scenes, Optimus reels off a couple of bad-megablocks lines, somebody says something about how it's all over now, there's no hope left, and there you go - instant wicked trailer. Let's not forget that ROTF had some absolutely amazing action scenes, too, except that the amazing action scenes were spread out over the course of two hours of mostly incredibly dire dialogue, a completely nonsensical plot, and multiple recurring motifs of racism, sexism and jingoism.

Not going to this one unless I hear some incredible word of mouth on it.

That is my worry too, in most cases trailers are edited in a way to make it look ultra-super-cool even if the actual full-length movie is not-as-great as it seems. That's how I found RoTF, I felt really ripped off after watching that one. That's why I'm really wishing that this third installment will redeem the previous disappointment.

I'd still definitely watch this, hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

[DarthSion]

Your hoping racist bay can redeem himself, you are a dreamer aren't you.

So who is the bad guy this time, Unicron, no wait a terminator, or maybe its casper.

[Sulfurix]

Your hoping racist bay can redeem himself, you are a dreamer aren't you.

So who is the bad guy this time, Unicron, no wait a terminator, or maybe its casper.

Actually none of those. It's Shockwave

Edited April 30, 2011 by Sulfurix

[DarthSion]

Shcokwave, good grief charlie brown.

[5150 Lego]

I admit that it looks hella cool, but I also remember that the trailer for "Rise of the Fallen" looked cool. Good music, quick editing, half a second at a time of the coolest action scenes, Optimus reels off a couple of bad-megablocks lines, somebody says something about how it's all over now, there's no hope left, and there you go - instant wicked trailer. Let's not forget that ROTF had some absolutely amazing action scenes, too, except that the amazing action scenes were spread out over the course of two hours of mostly incredibly dire dialogue, a completely nonsensical plot, and multiple recurring motifs of racism, sexism and jingoism.

Not going to this one unless I hear some incredible word of mouth on it.

That is my worry too, in most cases trailers are edited in a way to make it look ultra-super-cool even if the actual full-length movie is not-as-great as it seems. That's how I found RoTF, I felt really ripped off after watching that one. That's why I'm really wishing that this third installment will redeem the previous disappointment.

I'd still definitely watch this, hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

Both your fears admittitly are justifiable. But bay and much of the cast has openely admitted that ROTF had some serious flaws and they worked hard to correct those this time around. I enjoyed ROTF, but myself do realise there was much room for improvment. HOpefully their right and they have improved. They have a new writer this time around, so i'm sure thats a good thing.

Remeber, no one wants to make "bad movies" (although thats real subjective on what you concider bad). I don't believe Bay hated ROTF even after all the criticism it recieved my critics, but i do believe that he honestly wants to improve with DOTM.

[Zarkan]

Both your fears admittitly are justifiable. But bay and much of the cast has openely admitted that ROTF had some serious flaws and they worked hard to correct those this time around. I enjoyed ROTF, but myself do realise there was much room for improvment. HOpefully their right and they have improved. They have a new writer this time around, so i'm sure thats a good thing.

Remeber, no one wants to make "bad movies" (although thats real subjective on what you concider bad). I don't believe Bay hated ROTF even after all the criticism it recieved my critics, but i do believe that he honestly wants to improve with DOTM.

Well, between you and me, I don't trust Bay to get this right. He has yet to make a good movie in my mind, and I'm not expecting him to reform his movie-making style just because of a few fan complaints. Bad as it was, RoTF sold a literal slag-load of tickets and merchandise, and as long as people keep eating his Baysplosions up, we can expect to see a lot more high-octane crap in th future.

Edited May 2, 2011 by Zarkan

[5150 Lego]

Well, between you and me, I don't trust Bay to get this right. He has yet to make a good movie in my mind, and I'm not expecting him to reform his movie-making style just because of a few fan complaints. Bad as it was, RoTF sold a literal slag-load of tickets and merchandise, and as long as people keep eating his Baysplosions up, we can expect to see a lot more high-octane crap in th future.

Yes, but thats what TF has always been about. High octan thrill ride with actions and explosions galore. Bay is the perfect fit. (IMO) I still stand behind that no one wants to be remembered for making a bad movie. Every director wants to step it up the next level on the next go around. Thats how you continue to get work. That and making money.

[Zarkan]

Yes, but thats what TF has always been about.

Wrong. That's what Transformers is usually about. But, in its rare incarnations that actually have good storylines and characterization, it has ended up being much more than that. Beast Wars, Animated, and some of the comic series are more memorable than just about anything else in the franchise because the writers actually cared about making their products more than mindless explosion-fests, and in an ideal world, Hasbro would have learned from their success.

Sadly, this has not been the case, as the potential of the Transformers universe has been mostly squandered in favor of messes like Bay's movies and, yes, the original G1 series. And since this strategy has never failed to earn Hasbro gobs of cash, I don't expect them to change their practices any time soon. Even if Bay does quit after DOTM, they'll probably just get another "director" concerned entirely with robot explosions, tired plotlines putting the focus on lame human characters, and leering shots of supermodels. I certainly don't expect to see an adaption of War for Cybertron, that's for sure, as there's no homo sapiens and thus no hot chicks to be found on the Transformers home planet.

[DarthSion]

Um bay is not totally to blame, the problem is Gen-y the kiddies get bored after 2 mins if there is no flashy light shows all the time they won't watch it, same reason games have no thinking any more, same reason why people bashed Avatar too much thinking not enough mindless action.

[5150 Lego]

Looks like we have our first review of TF-DOTM. And believe it or not, its a positive!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49648

Although its good to hear a positive first review, i'm not the one that goes by movie critics. I'll take it with a grain of salt, but it does sound like the story is darker and more involved than the first 2. Which is good!

[Zarkan]

Topic's been inactive for over a month, but I felt I had to share something. I'm not really a Transformers fan, but just as I was incredibly impressed with the Animated toy line, I'm finding myself amazed by how good the Transformrs Prime toy line is. I'm no fan of the show, but I do love the art style, and its incredible how well they've translated it into toy form. Apart from a couple of the early Delexues (Starscream and Prime), they all look fantastic in both forums, and it also seems like their poseability is going to be really good. Best of all, they're not loaded with silly Mechtech weapons like the entire Dark of the Moon movie line, but instead feature simple, character fitting gear. I dunno if I'll actually end up buying any of them, but let me say, it's hard not for even a guy like me to want to pick at least a few up.

Do any of you hardcore Transformers fans agree with me?

[prateek]

I actually hate the animated style. I really like the Classics and Movie style. IMO, Transformers are supposed to look like robots, with gears and hydraulics and stuff showing. The animateds are too streamlined for my liking, but that's just me.

[Zarkan]

I actually hate the animated style. I really like the Classics and Movie style. IMO, Transformers are supposed to look like robots, with gears and hydraulics and stuff showing. The animateds are too streamlined for my liking, but that's just me.

I'd take the Animated line over the Movie line any day. The former maintained a consistent level of show accuracy, poseability, and variety in its products, while the latter varries wildly in accuracy (even in the same waves) and is constantly being hindered by lame gimmicks such as Mech tech weapons. More importantly, as far as I'm concerned, the Bay style is TOO robotic, which I suppose fits well with the film's equally robotic "personalities." Transformers Prime's astethics are essentially a more personable version of Bayformers, and also vastly superior IMO. Now, if only the rest of the show could have the same quality....

[5150 Lego]

Topic's been inactive for over a month, but I felt I had to share something. I'm not really a Transformers fan, but just as I was incredibly impressed with the Animated toy line, I'm finding myself amazed by how good the Transformrs Prime toy line is. I'm no fan of the show, but I do love the art style, and its incredible how well they've translated it into toy form. Apart from a couple of the early Delexues (Starscream and Prime), they all look fantastic in both forums, and it also seems like their poseability is going to be really good. Best of all, they're not loaded with silly Mechtech weapons like the entire Dark of the Moon movie line, but instead feature simple, character fitting gear. I dunno if I'll actually end up buying any of them, but let me say, it's hard not for even a guy like me to want to pick at least a few up.

Do any of you hardcore Transformers fans agree with me?

The animated toy line has its upsides for sure. One of the main things i love about it is the ease of transformations. Even on the leader class figures you use the instructions once, and then your pretty good. One of the down falls of the movie lines are the complexity of transforming many of the figures. I say many, because there are a few out there that are rather simplistic. Most of the Deluxe class figures and even a few Voyagers are rather simplistic in there transfomations. Others while highly detailed, can be a nightmare to transform. I'm really hoping that the TF:Prime toy lines follows suit with animated and makes things easy.

I'd take the Animated line over the Movie line any day. The former maintained a consistent level of show accuracy, poseability, and variety in its products, while the latter varries wildly in accuracy (even in the same waves) and is constantly being hindered by lame gimmicks such as Mech tech weapons. More importantly, as far as I'm concerned, the Bay style is TOO robotic, which I suppose fits well with the film's equally robotic "personalities." Transformers Prime's astethics are essentially a more personable version of Bayformers, and also vastly superior IMO. Now, if only the rest of the show could have the same quality....

Now that's were i'd have to completely disagree. The movies lines are very accurate to their on screen counterparts. Maybe not 100%, but no worse than Animated has been. While the smaller class figures are sure to be a little off due to their size (its been this way for nearly every toy line, not just movie TF's)the larger ones seem to be spot on for the most part.

I received Human Alliance Road buster for my birthday, and both his vehicle mode and robot mode are spot on his on screen design. IN fact, i'd have to say all the Human Alliance figures are spot on accurate in terms of vehicle and robot mode. Leader class figures are also a good example of alt, and bot mode accuracy. The down fall many times of course when it comes to accuracy, is the complexity of the transformations. Take HA Road buster for example. Great detail in and out, but with over 45 (Yes, that's right 45!) steps to transform from bot to car and vis, vursa, it can get a little fustrating. But after a couple practice transformations, its not to bad. Defenatily not for your average 8 year old.

As far as the Mech tech weapons, while not my cup of tea either, they have been doing remarkable well in TF fandom and market place. Espeacialy since it they were used in the movie. And lets face it. Kids like guns with there figures.

As far as the quality of TF: Prime the series, sorry, but have to completely disagree. This has to be the best TF series ever done. Fantastic writing and story telling, with just the right amount of darkness and humor to capture both the young and the old. Animated was a little to campy and immature for my taste. Prime tops it in every way shape and form (Please remember this is just my opinion. Not attempting to bring yours down or suggest that yours is wrong, cause it isn't :))

[Oky]

Well, I'm no "hardcore Transformers fan", and I don't know anything about the toys, but I do enjoy the TF Prime series. I like the dark tone and the visuals are pretty well done. The art style is indeed a good mix of the Animated and the Bay styles.

The new movie, Dark of the Moon, was pretty good too. It was exactly what I expected anyway - a visual effects-laden movie about giant transforming robots beating the scrap out of each other while Shia LaBeouf is being the idiot that he is on the side with a chick that's way too hot for him. In fact, he and his unrealistic relationship is probably the only thing I didn't like about the movie. Well, that and the nearly complete lack of a plot, but hey, that's Bay for ya. I'm not bashing Bay, it's just what I have come to expect from him. That said, I'm very glad to hear that he and LaBeouf wont be involved with the next movie(s) while Spielberg stays and Jason Statham might take LaBeouf's place!

As far as the quality of TF: Prime the series, sorry, but have to completely disagree. This has to be the best TF series ever done. Fantastic writing and story telling, with just the right amount of darkness and humor to capture both the young and the old. Animated was a little to campy and immature for my taste. Prime tops it in every way shape and form (Please remember this is just my opinion.

And I have to disagree with you. I'm a big fan of Animated and wouldn't describe it as campy and immature. Lighthearted, perhaps, especially some of the episodes, but that was partly what made it so fun to watch. And its storytelling was great in my opinion, perhaps even better than that of TF Prime. Plus I enjoyed the futuristic setting. As for the art style, while I prefer Transformers to look more robotic too, I think the streamlined look worked for the show.

[LandShark]

As you can probably tell from my avatar, I'm a big Transformers fan.

My favorite series would have to be the old 80's G1 show (even though I wasn't around at the time, I have lots on DVD).

As for the Bay movies, definitely not my favorite movies, but I don't hate them as much as some people do.

Also, what do people here think of the Armada series (or the rest of the Unicron trilogy)? I usually don't really like the Japanese animation style, but I actually thought Armada was very good.