L@go Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 And Series 11 hasn't been released in most northern Europe. That's not really correct. Series 11 hasn't been released in regular, non-LEGO branded toy stores in the Nordic countries and BeNeLux, but it is available in the few LEGO Stores in these countries and on Shop@Home in all countries. Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I get what you're saying, but there was a series already out when the GB figures were released. There won't be another series out, unless you count Series 11. Otherwise, this series is slated for the same release as Series 12 would be. If this were to follow the patterns of GB, another special series, don't you think we'd be getting a normally labeled series alongside it? Just because it doesn't say Series 12 on it doesn't mean it won't be counted. Actually this IS the reason why this is not Series 12. Is it written somewhere? No. So this is the answer. You can call it whatever name you want, but the official name is something like "The Lego Movie Collectable Minifigures", or whatever, but no 12 in any way. The MMORPG could easily be counted as a normal series as well. Why don't you count "normal series" Team GB then? MMORPG minifigures will probably be Asia/US exclusive. Also, there were other reasons why Series 11 wasn't released in Europe. As it was released everywhere else, it's not a special series, unlike GB, which was exclusive to one place. Your logic is flawed too. No, my logic has no flaws. Yours has. When you say that team GB was exclusive to GB, I can say that series 11 was exclusive to US/Asia/Southern Europe. If someone doesn't get it it is indeed an exclusive, as it EXCLUDES someone from getting it. (This is basically what EXCLUSIVES are). I don't really find a valid logical reason foro calling this SERIES 12. It's not it. It's like you would call this castle KINGDOMS 2. It's not kingdoms 2. Compared to previous series, there are only 5 characters that could fit! Not the three robots. Not Emmet, Business, Pants Guy, WyldStyle, mrs. Scratchen-Post and Gail. Very hardly: Shakespeare and Lincoln. The only ones who could fit previous series are the Taco guy, the Panda suit guy, the cop, the barista and the mermaid, and three out of this five are re-uses. Every single thing that I could think about it leads me far from series 12... Quote
Freddy Bricker Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Should this thread be renamed "The LEGO Movie Collectible Minifigure Series", since it's not explicitly a Series 12? We don't know if this is S12 or not, but it isn't called that. Well since we have no word yet I say keep it series 12, and if it appears not to be, and the series returns to the original numbering in 2015 (or through the mmorpg), that thread could be called the REAL series 12, or something, agh I guess the name could always be changed in 2014 Quote
obsidianheart Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I don't understand all this unpleasant vehemence that this can not be Series 12. This is the 12th series of blind-bagged 16-assortment minifigures. If they choose to suspend or terminate the numbering system, that will not change that this is the 12th set of 16. The Team GB stuff only had 9 and was limited global availibility through official channels, so I can see how some people would choose to ignore it as part of the Collectible Minifigures line (although I myself include it, despite not being able to purchase it). I guess all this bickering over who is right about numbers or whatever just looks weird and off-putting. If you don't like the series, don't buy it. You don't have to come up with branding loopholes like the absence of a number to skip out on buying it. No one's going to think less of you if you don't buy it and your justification is "It's not for me". Will the future releases not matter if they don't have a number on the bag? Honestly, it would be weird for me if they went back to the numbers after this series or the next one or the one after whatever. Quote
Dorayaki Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Well since we have no word yet I say keep it series 12, and if it appears not to be, and the series returns to the original numbering in 2015 (or through the mmorpg), that thread could be called the REAL series 12, or something, agh I guess the name could always be changed in 2014 Uh, I think we should stick to the official product title, not the logical meaning in order to make correct discussion. If you don't like the series, don't buy it. You don't have to come up with branding loopholes like the absence of a number to skip out on buying it. No one's going to think less of you if you don't buy it and your justification is "It's not for me". Will the future releases not matter if they don't have a number on the bag? Honestly, it would be weird for me if they went back to the numbers after this series or the next one or the one after whatever. I don't think my taste is determined by whether it's a special theme or not. The major concern would be what direction TLC would decide to follow, and it's very natural for fans to feel disturbed (What if no more CMF appears? Something like this, though impossible). No matter what, I hope that TLC won't make wrong decisions. Edited November 7, 2013 by Dorayaki Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I don't understand all this unpleasant vehemence that this can not be Series 12. This is the 12th series of blind-bagged 16-assortment minifigures. Actually, it's the 11th, since Series 10 had 17. Quote
AmperZand Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 What blue is that on the black girl with the fan? I think the streak in her hair and down the centre of her dress is Medium Blue and the outside of her dress is Sand Blue, but it's difficult to tell. "Medium" and "Sand Blue" are BrickLink colour names; don't know what they're officially called by TLG. Quote
TrumpetKing Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Actually this IS the reason why this is not Series 12. Is it written somewhere? No. So this is the answer. You can call it whatever name you want, but the official name is something like "The Lego Movie Collectable Minifigures", or whatever, but no 12 in any way. Why don't you count "normal series" Team GB then? MMORPG minifigures will probably be Asia/US exclusive. No, my logic has no flaws. Yours has. When you say that team GB was exclusive to GB, I can say that series 11 was exclusive to US/Asia/Southern Europe. If someone doesn't get it it is indeed an exclusive, as it EXCLUDES someone from getting it. (This is basically what EXCLUSIVES are). I don't really find a valid logical reason foro calling this SERIES 12. It's not it. It's like you would call this castle KINGDOMS 2. It's not kingdoms 2. Compared to previous series, there are only 5 characters that could fit! Not the three robots. Not Emmet, Business, Pants Guy, WyldStyle, mrs. Scratchen-Post and Gail. Very hardly: Shakespeare and Lincoln. The only ones who could fit previous series are the Taco guy, the Panda suit guy, the cop, the barista and the mermaid, and three out of this five are re-uses. Every single thing that I could think about it leads me far from series 12... You have your opinion and I have mine. It could easily be considered Series 12, just because it isn't labeled doesn't mean it can't be considered Series 12 by LEGO. Team GB is not a normal series because it was exclusive to a specific area. Series 11was not exclusive because it was released nearly worldwide, like most series. That s hardly exclusive, unless you mean it's excluding parts of Europe. I guess you could really say both of our logic is flawed, as you make some decent points as well, but sime don't make sense to me. In my eyes, 10 of these figures could easily fit into the normal series. Other than the three main characters and the robots, they could all fit in a normal series. They might not all make good figure ideas, but they could easily be put into a normal series. The bad cop might be tough to fit in too, but if it didn't have a eversible expression I could definitely see it fitting in. Where do you get the MMORPG series being a USA/Asia exclusive too?? Quote
Yooha Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Catfight! Come on fellows, why to argue about this? Some of us considers this series as 12, someone doesn't. Some of us says that if there is no sign of "12" on the box, this proves that it is not series 12. Some think it doesn't matter. Why is it be so important to persuade everybody that I_have_right! If someone wants to call series 4 "series of Hazmat Guy" so be it, providing that everyone understand which series it is. Since the LEGO Movie Series's name as "series 12" spread all over, and even our Italian friend knows which series it is, the name justifies itself. It's like calling multiple personality disorder "schizophrenia". That's not it, but everyone knows, what you are talking about. Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 In my eyes, 10 of these figures could easily fit into the normal series. Other than the three main characters and the robots, they could all fit in a normal series. They might not all make good figure ideas, but they could easily be put into a normal series. The bad cop might be tough to fit in too, but if it didn't have a eversible expression I could definitely see it fitting in. When someone wants to be right, you must tell him he's right. So you would call Mrs.Scratchmen and "Where are my pants" guy like "Generic Woman" and "Generic guy with pants in his hand"? Do you want me to tell "This is series 12, last year castle is Kingdoms 2, Galaxy Squad is Space Police 4." ? This is not the 12th series released as 16 characters: series 10 had 17. This is not the 12th series sold everywhere: series 11 wasn't sold in northern europe. This is not the 12th series released: it's the 13th. Unless Lego calls it series 12, I wont refer that as series 12: it's a custom interpretation. One should stick to what LEGO says and not saying his own version: it spreads confusion. Here on LEGO site: http://www.lego.com/en-us/movie/products/products/71004 you have a lot of text but NO mention to the number 12. They could have written "Series 12 will feature characters from the movie" but no, no 12 anywhere. Where do you get the MMORPG series being a USA/Asia exclusive too?? I have my sources. You will have hard times to find this in Europe. Maybe in Germany or UK, but surely not in northern or southern europe. Quote
Rick Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Alright, that's enough arguing about whether this is officially CMF Series 12 or not. We want EB to be a place to discuss our hobby in a friendly atmosphere. When these will officially be released, we'll decide on what to do with the title of this thread. For now, I have added "The LEGO Movie" to the thread title. Just to be clear: this debate has ended right here. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 Thank you very much for the picture of the minifigs! I most honestly say that I'm not very impressed buy this series! Which I don't like is that there are two times minifigures which are too similar (2x construction worker + 3x zombi). Plus the accessory could have been much more attractive (e. g. a banjo for the Mexican, a dipper for the constructon worker, a pen for the office guy, ...). But I really like the panda suit guy. Klaus-Dieter Quote
jluck Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Wow this thread got silly for a bit Honestly, my buying philosophy hasn't changed, get the ones I like, leave the ones I don't, regardless of series name or label. This series is shaping up to be a favorite on the strength of Lincoln, Shakespeare, and the coffee guy. They're some of the best figures yet! I could care less about a few of the others. Quote
Blakstone Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 The official release of the package is out now. It does not include a Series Number. http://www.lego.com/en-us/movie/products/products/71004 Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 The official release of the package is out now. It does not include a Series Number. http://www.lego.com/.../products/71004 If you see it I linked this in my last post. Btw this part of the topic has been asked to be ceased, and I agree that we are asked to have polite and funny talks. Nobody is committing any crime in calling something the wrong way, let's live with it :) Quote
Aanchir Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 I think the streak in her hair and down the centre of her dress is Medium Blue and the outside of her dress is Sand Blue, but it's difficult to tell. "Medium" and "Sand Blue" are BrickLink colour names; don't know what they're officially called by TLG. Medium Blue and Sand Blue actually are the official names and the Bricklink names for those colors. Personally, I think the outside of her dress is Sand Blue and the center might be Light Royal Blue (the color Bricklink calls "Bright Light Blue", which has a nice ring to it). Quote
greeny Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 It's a shame that we're getting two construction workers and three robots... I would have much rather had some unique characters (cough 1980's spaceman cough Johnny Thunder cough) Quote
WhiteFang Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I will like to weigh in and provide my insight into the debate on the interpretation of if it is well represented as LEGO CMF Series 12 or The LEGO Movie minifigures. This upcoming brand new release is to be regarded as "LEGO Minifigures – The LEGO Movie Series". This is the official naming for this Series. In short, it also meant that this minifigures packaging will be similar in the CMF design which we are familiar with. However, this is not exactly a LEGO CMFs Series 12 in exact but to infer as Series 12 shadow. This is not related to any of the LEGO CMFs Series 1 to 11 concept which I believe will take a short break and taking on another new perspective to present and market other LEGO Minifigures Theme. In this case, this is all about the upcoming LEGO movie. Am I making any sense? Likewise for the Team GB minifigures as well, which are not directly considered as any current LEGO CMFs Series 1 to 11. It is related like a close relative in the same family tree but not completely related like a sort of bloodline. I might be wrong in the long run and this is my observation which is not meant to direct at any of our members. I just don't want to see a positive discussion being turned into a heated and emotional debate in my playground. Thank you for reading. Quote
LordLEGOtube Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 They look cool, but a lot are very similar (e.g. The robots) Quote
Captain Blockbeard Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 After having seen the image of the box and packets on Brickset, I came to see if the "series 12 or not" line of thought had been discussed here...and it clearly has. I'm taking the side of "it's not Series 12," but I don't see that as something about which to be overly concerned. However, I do hope that this collection will be more widely distributed compared to the GB Olympic collectible minifigures that remained exclusive (in an official sense) to Europe. Sadly, I was unable to fully complete a GB Olympic set through third party sellers (without accepting outrageous prices). No matter the naming scheme, I look forward to this series based on the movie arriving, hopefully, in January with Series 12 returning in April/May after the brief hiatus. At least, that seems like a logical release schedule. Quote
parksroad Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I'm really pleased with this series. Lots of the characters have a lot of crossover appeal--you wouldn't have to see the movie to recognize them. I had sort of been worried this might not be the case. Quote
lifeinplastic Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) I don't personally care what the series is going to be called but I think many are concerned when we will receive the next 'normal' line of CMFs. I'm hoping we don't have to wait until late 2014 (or even worse, 2015) if these 'other' lines are going to replace them timewise rather than numberwise. However, I don't really feel this is too different from the usual, but the Simpsons will definitely be. It does seem that the most popular figures from the majority of reactions here are Lincoln, Shakespeare and the Coffee Guy, which could possibly have been in a normal wave. On the whole I like this series thanks to a few great new parts but it is quite limited and probably my least favourite so far. It is a shame that most of the minifigures I do like come with the sets (which I generally don't like) - wish some of them could have been individual figures like the doctor/surgeon, jogger, Western bandits, bearded refuse collector and guy with the brown hat in the Western plane although I won't pay for a whole set just for one minifigure. Can't wait for the 12th 'normal' series, whatever it'll be called! Edited November 9, 2013 by lifeinplastic Quote
parksroad Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 ...although having said I really like this series, I've got to say I don't understand Where's My Pants guy. Granted kids will think it's hilarious Quote
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