Phyre Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Ironic that after this sentence, you begin to list all the various ways the parts on the figs can be used in castle/fantasy setting. Like I said, the series has a plethora of useful new parts. That's all any MOCer should care about, since the minifigs aren't glued together and there's no need to use them whole. Well of course, I try to look for the positive. There are certainly a lot of useful parts for castle/fantasy, just no useful whole figures, which means no army builders for this series (which I guess is a good thing for my wallet). This is not Series 12 then. There's no "Series 12" written anywhere. This is really good news. Although I think I’ll still collect this series, since there are some decent figures and they are “normal” minifigures, the thing that it tells me is that Simpsons will not be Series 12 either, and therefore I won’t feel weird about not buying that series. Quote
Archer Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Is wiley supposed to have a coonskin cap on? it's hard to tell. If so great, he'll be easy to turn into a proper fur trapper. it's too bad about the silver printing on the western female robot's torso. Quote
TrumpetKing Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Well, just because it doesn t say Series 12 on the packs doesn't mean it's not going to be counted as Series 12. I have a hard time believing that they'd only release one series that was actually labeled as a specific numbered series in a year, especially since it wouldfd be the final wave of the year. If it were released in January and lasted the whole year, then that would make sense, but I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be considered Series 12 other than the fact that it's not on the packs. We'll see in September whether the packs are labeled Series 12 or 14, only time will tell. I was anxious to see these figures, and I'm alrit with how the series turned out. I'm disappointed about all the robots and how we get main characters, but really, a lot of these figures could have been seen in a normal series. The cat lady is a bit disappointing after just having a series with a pretty similar Grandma, but it's still decently designed. The designs and new pieces are great, and I'm actually kind of looking forward to the series now. Quote
Dorayaki Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Well, just because it doesn t say Series 12 on the packs doesn't mean it's not going to be counted as Series 12. I have a hard time believing that they'd only release one series that was actually labeled as a specific numbered series in a year, especially since it wouldfd be the final wave of the year. I was anxious to see these figures, and I'm alrit with how the series turned out. I'm disappointed about all the robots and how we get main characters, but really, a lot of these figures could have been seen in a normal series. The cat lady is a bit disappointing after just having a series with a pretty similar Grandma, but it's still decently designed. The designs and new pieces are great, and I'm actually kind of looking forward to the series now. Not to be optimistic, we're just following the example of Olympics. Hope that the special series without number labelled doesn't do anything with the release of real series 12 (they don't have to appear very soon, but at least in June after the rumored Simpsons series). If it was destined to be a special series, it is reasonable (or an excuse) to put similiar characters from the same allies without considering diversity like original CMF series do. The robots look more like noted characters who were not born to be army buiders. Edited November 6, 2013 by Dorayaki Quote
CMP Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Anyone else see what's on the paper Shakespeare's holding? Love it. Edited November 6, 2013 by CallMePie Quote
TrumpetKing Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Not to be optimistic, we're just following the example of Olympics. Hope that the special series without number labelled doesn't do anything with the release of real series 12 (they don't have to appear very soon, but at least in June after the rumored Simpsons series). If it was destined to be a special series, it is reasonable (or an excuse) to put similiar characters from the same allies without considering diversity like original CMF series do. The robots look more like noted characters who were not born to be army buiders. Yes, but the Olympic series was likely not numbered because it was released in different parts of Europe exclusively, so if it was numbered, it would have screwed up the numbering system of the series. If this were like the Olympic Series, don't you think we'd have news of another series running alongside this one, as it's likely going to be released January, the first CMF release date of each year? 32 CMF's running alongside eachother seems a bit overkill, IMO. I lean towards this series and the next being included, but only time will tell. You're right that they could come later, but even then it would be running alongside another 16 minifigures in the personally dreaded Simpsons series. I just have a hard time seeing the logic in LEGO making customers wait a full year to get the next numbered series, just because of two special series that could easily be counted in the mix. It really doesn't change anything whether it's counted or not, however. Quote
Yooha Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I just noticed something: Is the barrista's tumbler a new mold? It doesn't look like a regular cylinder. Quote
lightningtiger Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I just noticed something: Is the barrista's tumbler a new mold? It doesn't look like a regularcylinder. Yep, and I will be hunting down as many of those Larry's just for the coffee cups. Quote
LegoTrainFanatic Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 AAHHH!! What the heck is that supposed to be? Like an old piece where some three year old had to draw a new face? Maybe he did something wrong, and as punishment, lord business had his robots scribble all over his face? Quote
lightningtiger Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe he did something wrong, and as punishment, lord business had his robots scribble all over his face? True, isn't good cop-bad cop character have the typical cop with silver sunnies on and on the other side....the smiling nerdy glasses face ? Quote
Itaria No Shintaku Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Well, just because it doesn t say Series 12 on the packs doesn't mean it's not going to be counted as Series 12. I have a hard time believing that they'd only release one series that was actually labeled as a specific numbered series in a year, especially since it wouldfd be the final wave of the year. If it were released in January and lasted the whole year, then that would make sense, but I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be considered Series 12 other than the fact that it's not on the packs. We'll see in September whether the packs are labeled Series 12 or 14, only time will tell. For the same reason you didn't consider Olympics as "Series 8". They came in the midlle between S7 and S8, but no one considered them S8. By the way in September you won't have S12 or S14 or anything. That will be "The Minifigure MMORPG CMF" as much as this is not series 12 but "The Lego Movie CMF" and in may you'll have "The Simpsons CMF". Imho CMF ended with series 11, OR they are taking a break of one year. Yes, but the Olympic series was likely not numbered because it was released in different parts of Europe exclusively, so if it was numbered, it would have screwed up the numbering system of the series. And Series 11 hasn't been released in most northern Europe. Your logic doesn't simply work. This is not Series 12. There's no "Series 12" anywhere. Period. Quote
Dorayaki Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 If this were like the Olympic Series, don't you think we'd have news of another series running alongside this one, as it's likely going to be released January, the first CMF release date of each year? 32 CMF's running alongside eachother seems a bit overkill, IMO. IMO, even though the Movie CMFs are not offically numbered, they're still part of the formal CMF series that would be massively produced and globally distributed. In other words, they replaces the orginial time of series 12.But if the series are totally additinoal or TLC are able to add more production lines, a better result can be that four series come out in 2014. By the way in September you won't have S12 or S14 or anything. That will be "The Minifigure MMORPG CMF" as much as this is not series 12 but "The Lego Movie CMF" and in may you'll have "The Simpsons CMF". Rumors are still rumors. I guess that doesn't mean there won't be any original series between them (optimistically thinking). I'm not sure about MMORPG. If it includes original characters who are not based on the plot of the game, they can still be labelled series 12/13. Quote
TrumpetKing Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 For the same reason you didn't consider Olympics as "Series 8". They came in the midlle between S7 and S8, but no one considered them S8. By the way in September you won't have S12 or S14 or anything. That will be "The Minifigure MMORPG CMF" as much as this is not series 12 but "The Lego Movie CMF" and in may you'll have "The Simpsons CMF". Imho CMF ended with series 11, OR they are taking a break of one year. And Series 11 hasn't been released in most northern Europe. Your logic doesn't simply work. This is not Series 12. There's no "Series 12" anywhere. Period. I get what you're saying, but there was a series already out when the GB figures were released. There won't be another series out, unless you count Series 11. Otherwise, this series is slated for the same release as Series 12 would be. If this were to follow the patterns of GB, another special series, don't you think we'd be getting a normally labeled series alongside it? Just because it doesn't say Series 12 on it doesn't mean it won't be counted. The MMORPG could easily be counted as a normal series as well. Also, there were other reasons why Series 11 wasn't released in Europe. As it was released everywhere else, it's not a special series, unlike GB, which was exclusive to one place. Your logic is flawed too. Quote
Blakstone Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 don't you think we'd be getting a normally labeled series alongside it? Just because it doesn't say Series 12 on it doesn't mean it won't be counted. The MMORPG could easily be counted as a normal series as well. I believe that Itaria No Shintaku says is that in the Retailer Catalog, the LEGO Movie CMF, The Simpsons CMF, and the MMORG CMF, labeled like that. None have a series number. We won't know until the 2015 CMF show up whether the Series continues the numbering from 12 or 15. We can speculate all we want but if there were other CMF not related to those coming out in 2014, they would have showed up in the same catalog. Quote
AmperZand Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) fred67, You forgot the Revolutionary Soldier as having a US vibe. But I've got to disagree that the Sea Captain is distinctly American. That trope is common to many countries. Birdseye, the frozen food company, used to advertise fishfingers in the UK using a character who looked very much like the minifig. I doubt many people will begrudge the inclusion of Lincoln as being too American any more than they would resent Shakespeare's inclusion for being too English, or from earlier series, the Samurai, Sumo Wrestler, Geisha and Ninja for being too Japanese, the Viking for being too Nordic, the Leprechaun for being too Irish, the Highlander and Bagpiper for being too Scottish, the Lederhosen Guy and Dirdnl Girl for being too Teutonic etc. Apologies if the above is a digression. I didn't mean to threadjack. Edited November 6, 2013 by AmperZand Quote
Ardelon Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I wonder whether the three robots will have some kind of personality. Wiley at least seems pretty intense... As to the numbering, I'm highly skeptical of there being parallel regular series at any point throughout the year - the three slots per year are logically filled by the three "licensed" series we know of. It will be interesting to see if, when the regular CMF series (hopefully) resume in 2015, they will be numbered as S12 or S15. Right now I have no idea which is more probable. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Technically yes, but if the piece still appears with Emmet in regular sets, it's still not allowed. So far we only see Emmet's whole hairpiece in preview sets. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "Technically yes, but if the piece still appears with Emmet in regular sets, it's still not allowed." What exactly wouldn't be allowed, and why wouldn't it be? I think there would be some issues to directly make minifigures based on historical people. We've seen some minifigures that obviously used some stereotype images of certain characters (Detective, Hollywood Starlet etc) but just don't use their names. The reason why this series include two notable names could be that they are detailed parody characters from a movie story. The Detective is an obvious homage to the fictional character Sherlock Holmes (and perhaps certain specific cinematic portrayals of him), but not a historical figure per se, and the Hollywood Starlet seems to be more of an archetypal starlet than a representation of any specific actress. I would say the Egyptian Queen does seem to be clearly inspired by Cleopatra, however, even if she's not formally referred to by that name. Come to think of it, though... back when Series 2 was in the works, wasn't there some leaked internal memo from TLG that informally referred to the Disco Dude as "Disco Stu"? Signs and portents of things to come, one might now think... Edited November 6, 2013 by Blondie-Wan Quote
Wardancer Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Hmm, whacky stuff. I like the black female torso (dark sorceress?) and silver arms in this theme. LEGO is made for combining elements in crazy ways and in that spirit the movie and the figs work. Can't argue against that. Does someone have a picture of Shakespeare's legs? What blue is that on the black girl with the fan? Edited November 6, 2013 by Wardancer Quote
Dorayaki Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) I believe that Itaria No Shintaku says is that in the Retailer Catalog, the LEGO Movie CMF, The Simpsons CMF, and the MMORG CMF, labeled like that. None have a series number. We won't know until the 2015 CMF show up whether the Series continues the numbering from 12 or 15. We can speculate all we want but if there were other CMF not related to those coming out in 2014, they would have showed up in the same catalog. That basically depends on what kind of plan TLC want to use. Not to say running out of ideas, I honestly think adding some special / licensed CMF series is interesting and it can prevent fans from feeling bored by normal series. However, if that rumor means there are three special / licensed CMF series coming one after the other without any normal series, they could push it too hard and lead to countereffects. I think there should be a normal series after the rumored Simpsons or the rumored MMORPG has to be filled with original CMFs too. I'm highly skeptical of there being parallel regular series at any point throughout the year - the three slots per year are logically filled by the three "licensed" series. So it's been questioned whether they're going to add more slots. Even they do, three uninterruptible special series is also a question mark. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "Technically yes, but if the piece still appears with Emmet in regular sets, it's still not allowed." What exactly wouldn't be allowed, and why wouldn't it be? I meant CMFs should include original pieces as many as possible, not totally reusing elements from regular sets. So far Emmet's hair with helmet is exclusive to this CMF series as a newly introuced one. Edited November 6, 2013 by Dorayaki Quote
Faefrost Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 That basically depends on what kind of plan TLC want to use. Not to say running out of ideas, I honestly think adding some special / licensed CMF series is interesting and it can prevent fans from feeling bored by normal series. We are getting too hung up on series numbering and differentiating between licensed, unlicensed and other. The chances are Series 11 will be the last of that numbered series. What we are calling series 12 is the internal movie tie in ( probably also a marketing teaser to license partners). What we call 13 will be the Simpsons line. Obviously unconnected to previous. Now comes the fun one. What we are thinking of as series 14. This will almost guaranteed to be reset to series 1 under a slightly different name to reflect its MMO tie in nature. It has to be, because it is designed to add a Skylanders type component to the collecting which previous series do not have. They can't allow the numbering of those previous series to act as a barrier to entry nor a point of confusion. So it gets reset to 1. Now the good news! The game and its collectable element insures that no, CMF's are not going all licensed. In fact it insures probably at least 4 or 5 more series of what we view as regular or classic style CMFs to support it. Quote
Dorayaki Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) We are getting too hung up on series numbering and differentiating between licensed, unlicensed and other. The chances are Series 11 will be the last of that numbered series. What we are calling series 12 is the internal movie tie in ( probably also a marketing teaser to license partners). What we call 13 will be the Simpsons line. Obviously unconnected to previous. Now comes the fun one. What we are thinking of as series 14. This will almost guaranteed to be reset to series 1 under a slightly different name to reflect its MMO tie in nature. It has to be, because it is designed to add a Skylanders type component to the collecting which previous series do not have. They can't allow the numbering of those previous series to act as a barrier to entry nor a point of confusion. So it gets reset to 1. Now the good news! The game and its collectable element insures that no, CMF's are not going all licensed. In fact it insures probably at least 4 or 5 more series of what we view as regular or classic style CMFs to support it. There are reasons for numbering: one, the example from Olympics, and two, the expectation of more original minifigures. Most important of all, prevent us from being confused by what series it is. Despite the flaws in the Lego Movie CMF, there are still some nice original minifigures and I don't mind to see special/licensed/original minifigures all mixed up together in future series. No series has to be labelled "special", though some collectors would feel offensed. Edited November 6, 2013 by Dorayaki Quote
Blakstone Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I would imagine the reasons for numbering is to differentiate between different series. For 2014 at least they are using different titles instead of series numbers. I think that the Olympics one was a special situation since it already had a different title and because it was not released everywhere. Quote
lemaskdemasque Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Hmm, whacky stuff. I like the black female torso (dark sorceress?) and silver arms in this theme. LEGO is made for combining elements in crazy ways and in that spirit the movie and the figs work. Can't argue against that. Does someone have a picture of Shakespeare's legs? What blue is that on the black girl with the fan? There you are. There's pictures of each individual fig in that gallery as well. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151775674768403&set=a.10151775673508403.1073741846.6665038402&type=3&theater Quote
Infernum Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 So the scribble face is Bad Cop's alternate in the CMF series. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151775673658403&set=a.10151775673508403.1073741846.6665038402&type=3&permPage=1 Quote
8BrickMario Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Should this thread be renamed "The LEGO Movie Collectible Minifigure Series", since it's not explicitly a Series 12? We don't know if this is S12 or not, but it isn't called that. Quote
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