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In contrast to Avalonia, we have actually never really claimed full territories and instead build villages and towns of places we imagine our characters to originate from. I kinda liked it that way and wonder if we really have to follow the example of Avalonia.

However, I do have a pretty clear idea of where I think Thorshaven is located.

That's a good point Kabel. I wasn't really looking to "claim" a spot at all. It's just that I have a village coming together and thought it would make a good dot on the map. I don't need any kind of ownership rights though! :)

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I don't need any kind of ownership rights though! :)

I'm glad we can agree on that, Mitgardia is actually way more egalitarian than the rest :wink: In Avalonia they have dozens of dukes and earls and stuff like that, in Kaliphlin they have slaves and in Nocturnus they have monsters who don't really care about human rights of whatever sort. In the North we may be a little more rough than in the other parts of Historica, but here each citizen (male or female) has its own individual worth! :thumbup:

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In contrast to Avalonia, we have actually never really claimed full territories and instead build villages and towns of places we imagine our characters to originate from. I kinda liked it that way and wonder if we really have to follow the example of Avalonia.

However, I do have a pretty clear idea of where I think Thorshaven is located.

Kaliphlin has out of sight the best map and we don't claim places! :thumbup:

...in Kaliphlin they have slaves...

Who are worth as much (maybe more) than every other individual! (Even good ol' Flagg used to be a slave!)

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Well, I with Kabel, I don't think we should claim territories. Just build cities and add dots. As for the map, I'm fine if it gets assigned to one person or if it's a team. I'll just leave my name out there as a willing participant.

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Who are worth as much (maybe more) than every other individual! (Even good ol' Flagg used to be a slave!)

Right, that's what the slave masters of the old South used to say too when they sold the children/brothers/sisters/spouses etc. of their slaves "down the river" ...

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Remember that this is all based in a medieval fantasy world where things like slavery, pillaging, torture and serfdom are commonplace and do not reflect our views of modern day or historical practices or events in the real world.

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True, but that does not mean that there hadn't been people thinking about more freedom. And Thomas Moore's "Utopia" is based on the reflections of the medieval world.

At the same time, the old Norse also had Things (assembleys) in which each citizend had a say, which is what I'm trying to refer to. Although I am aware of the fact, that Vikings too had slaves as well as rulers.

But hey, this is the romaticised version of the middle ages and our clan land people also wear horned helmets, despite the fact that this too is pure fiction.

And what's even more, I am playing a role as a certain political leader here, which is why I've started put what I mean to say as a real person into brackets.

:sweet:

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Remember that this is all based in a medieval fantasy world where things like slavery, pillaging, torture and serfdom are commonplace and do not reflect our views of modern day or historical practices or events in the real world.

Well, given that, we feel for those Mitgardians who have to spend their time picking whatever crops grow in their chilly climate and cleaning up after themselves instead of enriching their guild!

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Well, given that, we feel for those Mitgardians who have to spend their time picking whatever crops grow in their chilly climate and cleaning up after themselves instead of enriching their guild!

At least we can still wipe our butts ourselves, unlike our Kaliphlin friends who need a butler for even the most basic tasks. Oh well, I've always felt that Kaliphlin stood at the edge of decadence. Now I know!

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At least we can still wipe our butts ourselves, unlike our Kaliphlin friends who need a butler for even the most basic tasks. Oh well, I've always felt that Kaliphlin are carried in a litter by their butlers at the edge of decadence. Now I know!

Fixed that for greater accuracy.

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At least we can still wipe our butts ourselves,

Ah, but you Mitgardians use the clothes you wear, whereas us Avalonians use a rag, or a clean leaf. Possibly a smooth log, but at least we dispose of our excrement remnants without having our women clean it out without them knowing.

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...since I can't make the pic one...

All you have to do is highlight/select the picture and then hit the link button. I'd do it below but don't want to repeat the same picture.

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All you have to do is highlight/select the picture and then hit the link button. I'd do it below but don't want to repeat the same picture.

For some reason EB doesn't work well with IE, I can't quote people except in Toggle mode, I can't paste things except in Toggle mode, and I can't post pictures or change fonts except in Toggle mode.

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For some reason EB doesn't work well with IE, I can't quote people except in Toggle mode, I can't paste things except in Toggle mode, and I can't post pictures or change fonts except in Toggle mode.

Now that you mention it I recall having the same problem when I used IE. Oh well.

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I think that we should have a challenge to build up the Mitgardian navy, there is a serious lack of ships in this guild.

We're working on this, just be a little more patient trl is sometimes stranger than fiction!

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We're working on this, just be a little more patient trl is sometimes stranger than fiction!

Oh! well that's good :sweet:, I had no Idea.

EDIT: here is my new tower phase 1

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