Future The Hobbit Sets?

[Legoman123]

Oh right, well thanks anyways guys for clearing that up.

[Mutant Orc]

I take it then that the license for the video game was different then as Tom Bombadil featured as a character- a named character.

If they were allowed to give him a set it wouldn't be that interesting. It would be like Rhosgobel but with less wonkiness and Spiders. It would be rather bland.

[Infernum]

I'm not sure if it was any different for the videogame, I was under the impression they were just pushing their luck with Bombadil and Radagast.

[Deathleech]

The video game is produced by Warner Brothers, who has the LotR and Hobbit book rights. Anything in the Hobbit and LotR books (including appendixes), can be included in their game. That's why they were able to include Tom Bombadil in the video game, he is in the LotR books. Warner Brothers WASN'T able to specifically name the blue wizards though, because they are only named in the Similarion which WB does NOT have the rights to recreate anything from. That is why Gandalf mentions the blue wizards, they are mentioned in the LotR books, but he does not name them specifically and says he forgets their names because they were not given names until the Similarion.

Lego on the other hand has the rights to the LotR/Hobbit films. They can recreate anything featured in the films, but can't create sets or characters only mentioned in the books. This is why we will never see a Tom Bombadil set, even if Lego wanted to make one. Hope that all makes sense, I know it can be a little confusing.

[deskp]

SHould mention that the guys who made the game also worked with the tolkien peeople(middle earth enterprises(?) ) for the creation of the game.

[Haltiamieli]

Warner Brothers WASN'T able to specifically name the blue wizards though, because they are only named in the Similarion which WB does NOT have the rights to recreate anything from. That is why Gandalf mentions the blue wizards, they are mentioned in the LotR books, but he does not name them specifically and says he forgets their names because they were not given names until the Similarion.

This is rather off-topic and really nitpicky, but actually the blue wizards are not named or mentioned even in The Silmarillion, nor are their colour specified in the LotR (in theory Jackson & co. pushed their luck when Gandalf mentions the blue wizards in the movie, names or not... but not even the Tolkien Estate is that trigger-happy). Blue Wizards, Ithryn Luin, is a name they are given in an unfinished essay published in Unfinished Tales, while their specific names, Alatar and Pallando, are from a related note (also published in UT). Then again Tolkien did give them different names, Morinehtar and Rómestámo (or something like that), in a very late in life piece of writing that has been published in History of Middle-earth XII.

[Lynx]

LEGO Orcrist. I am certain we'll never see it as a moulded piece, but this is what it would look like:

[Blazej_Holen]

LEGO Orcrist. I am certain we'll never see it as a moulded piece, but this is what it would look like:

I already complained about this issue. WHY TLG take so much effort on detailed and unique hairpieces, torsos, and so much more stuff, when they didnt create moulds for Orcrist, Anduril, Sword of Rohan etc. They already created a Sting! I am so pissed off about this. Pictures form video game like this makes me truly angry :)

[Floundie]

I already complained about this issue. WHY TLG take so much effort on detailed and unique hairpieces, torsos, and so much more stuff, when they didnt create moulds for Orcrist, Anduril, Sword of Rohan etc. They already created a Sting! I am so pissed off about this. Pictures form video game like this makes me truly angry :)

Kids don't care about different sword molds.. Sting was the only sword that needed to be uniquely molded. Anduril wasn't necessary, because the long sword did the job fine without the extra and unnecessary cost of creating a brand new mold. Orcrist isn't as prominent in the story so I'm certain we won't see a mold for it.

[Blazej_Holen]

Kids don't care about different sword molds.. Sting was the only sword that needed to be uniquely molded. Anduril wasn't necessary, because the long sword did the job fine without the extra and unnecessary cost of creating a brand new mold. Orcrist isn't as prominent in the story so I'm certain we won't see a mold for it.

Sting was only sword that needed to be uniquely molded? How so? Gladius is quite enough to replace it, same as longsword can replace anduril... First commercial poster form LOTR 1th wave shows Aragorn with Anduril...why they didnt create it? And Orcrist is realy unique sword and it cant be replaced by gladius as we see in Attack of the wargs set...

Btw its a really shame that they did not add a cloak/cape for Thorin ... he seems plain tho...

[Fives]

Kids don't care about different sword molds.. Sting was the only sword that needed to be uniquely molded. Anduril wasn't necessary, because the long sword did the job fine without the extra and unnecessary cost of creating a brand new mold. Orcrist isn't as prominent in the story so I'm certain we won't see a mold for it.

Kids who see the movies and recognize the swords will wonder why they don't have an Orcrist. Kids are a lot cleverer than people think; many kids have a strong attention to detail, and not much gets past them.

[Bricknblue]

Kids do not care. It's like saying that kids watching the Star Wars movies and show want the guns to match in the set when they rarely have and now we have these ugly flick a brick things.

[Fives]

Kids do not care. It's like saying that kids watching the Star Wars movies and show want the guns to match in the set when they rarely have and now we have these ugly flick a brick things.

Blasters are different. They aren't weapons that have names. Orcrist, Anduril and Glamdring are all named weapons, and are given high levels of importance in the films.

[Mahtion]

Orcrist will play a part in the movies as it did in the books. It is a named sword and has 3 important scenes from AUJ. In DoS we see that Legolas will take Orcrist from Thorin so it will be connected with the Elf-Dwarf hostilities and past conflicts. Of course in TABA, Orcrist will be important in the major spoiler related to Thorin and Thranduil.

I think the excuse that kids do not differentiate between swords is false even by Lego marketing who spent many molds on Bionicle character waves and later with the Colorful Knights from Castle.

It is highly annoying to see Lego make so many molds, face prints, and weapon designs from Chima and Ninjango but time and again reuse inaccurate and inadequate pieces for major characters in their Licensed themes. I understand Lego's own themes should get most of the production resources but this is getting silly.

[Floundie]

I'm not saying I wouldn't want Orcrist and Anduril as unique molds, but I don't see either happening if they didn't bother with them already. In my opinion Sting is the only justifiable new mold even if there are other swords that are also important in the story.

Edited November 27, 2013 by Floundie

[Deathleech]

Sting is used and/or shown throughout not only all three LotR films, but the Hobbit films as well. The rest of the weapons have much less prominence. Anduril is probably shown the least, only being in the second half of the RotK film. So far there is only one set it could of appeared in (Black Gates) compared to the several Sting has been in. It makes sense Lego would opt for a new Sting mold but not one for the swords used much less, or that aren't as distinct looking (Anduril and Glamdring look enough like normal longswords, minus the hilt).

I would MUCH rather see Lego make new molds like Gondor helms or dwarf hairpieces than create swords with slightly different hilts.

[Floundie]

I would MUCH rather see Lego make new molds like Gondor helms or dwarf hairpieces than create swords with slightly different hilts.

Totally agree with you, maybe also a backpack that fits with the Hobbit hair, that would be nice.

[Rogue Angel]

I have to agree with Deathleech. I could not identify any of the weapons by sight other than Sting. While the other swords are prominent, they're not significant enough to warrant a new mold. I wouldn't mind seeing another sword mold or two, but not just for a new hilt. I can understand frustration over new molds in the game not showing up in sets though.

[Darth Caedus]

Sting is used and/or shown throughout not only all three LotR films, but the Hobbit films as well. The rest of the weapons have much less prominence. Anduril is probably shown the least, only being in the second half of the RotK film. So far there is only one set it could of appeared in (Black Gates) compared to the several Sting has been in. It makes sense Lego would opt for a new Sting mold but not one for the swords used much less, or that aren't as distinct looking (Anduril and Glamdring look enough like normal longswords, minus the hilt).

I would MUCH rather see Lego make new molds like Gondor helms or dwarf hairpieces than create swords with slightly different hilts.

I agree. As iconic as Narsil/Anduril is (1 mold could be used for both, in theory), it's *much* more important to get armor. I'd rather have an Uruk-hai siege helmet than Anduril, and that's a pretty niche piece of armor - Gondorian helms are essential. And honestly, I wish we'd gotten true Moria Goblin helms, they're just so darn cool.

I have to agree with Deathleech. I could not identify any of the weapons by sight other than Sting. While the other swords are prominent, they're not significant enough to warrant a new mold. I wouldn't mind seeing another sword mold or two, but not just for a new hilt. I can understand frustration over new molds in the game not showing up in sets though.

Personally, by sight I can identify, distinguish, and would enjoy having distinct molds for Anduril, Narsil, Sting, Glamdring, Orcrist, Boromir's sword, Hadhafang (yes, I know it's made up), Herugrim, and Eowyn's sword. But that's obviously a pipe dream. However, I think we DO *need* a proper Elven sword-mold: they really missed the boat by not including one in MEA. The Daggers of Time and Thranduil's longsword are absurd.

Edited November 28, 2013 by Darth Caedus

[Ardelon]

I pretty mych agree with Deathleech and the rest of you guys, maybe with the exception of Orcrist, which seems pretty unique. But the most necessary mould for me would be the Gondorian helmet, closely followed by a new helmet for Mordor/Morgul Orcs.

[Alfadas]

Those swords are all very nice, but I agree with almost all of you, new armor/helmet pieces for orcs and Gondorian soldiers are way better then all those swords.

A new sword mold for the orcs would be nice, or at least a weapon that looks orcish.

[Mahtion]

Orcrist looks nothing like a standard longsword or the gladius. It resembles a falcata or maybe a khopesh, a sabre would be stretching it. The gladius sword packed with Thorin looks like it would be his dwarven sword Deathless but in no way looks even remotely similar to Orcrist which is almost longer than Thorin and much wider.

I just use the Brickforge falcata until one of the custom makers designs a proper design. In no fathomable way does Orcrist differ by only a hilt design.

[legomonk]

Any thoughts on the exclusive figure for hobbit? or has this been brought up?

[Floundie]

Any thoughts on the exclusive figure for hobbit? or has this been brought up?

For the game, I think we'll get some variant of Bilbo, but I'd love to see a Thrain fig. And I hope they do another Blu-ray combo pack with a fig for DOS next year, that would be sweet.

[TheLegoDr]

That would be neat to see another exclusive figure, although then you end up buying everything twice or paying much more money for the figure alone than you normally would have. But it'd be neat to see. I wonder how much that really helps sales of those blu-ray combo packs?